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| This decision depends on **water temperature, air temperature, your paddling skill, your experience on and in cold water, water and weather conditions (wind strength, direction), proximity to shore and who you are paddling with**. Don't dress less carefully because you put any responsibility on others for your rescue (not a good mindset). Paddling with groups that have a strong "watch out for each other" ethic you should still be **at least** as prepared as you would be paddling solo. Otherwise you are putting unfair responsibility and risk on your fellow paddlers and at the very least reducing their freedom to enjoy their own outing. And If you are responsible for other paddlers, particularly less experienced ones then you may even need to dress and prepare more carefully for more potential water immersion in order to assist in someone else's rescue. | This decision depends on **water temperature, air temperature, your paddling skill, your experience on and in cold water, water and weather conditions (wind strength, direction), proximity to shore and who you are paddling with**. Don't dress less carefully because you put any responsibility on others for your rescue (not a good mindset). Paddling with groups that have a strong "watch out for each other" ethic you should still be **at least** as prepared as you would be paddling solo. Otherwise you are putting unfair responsibility and risk on your fellow paddlers and at the very least reducing their freedom to enjoy their own outing. And If you are responsible for other paddlers, particularly less experienced ones then you may even need to dress and prepare more carefully for more potential water immersion in order to assist in someone else's rescue. | ||
| - | * [[:stories:dress_air_water|Dress for Air or Water]] ? | + | * **Paddlers Who Got Too Cold But Lived to Talk About It** |
| - | * **Paddlers Who Got Too Cold But Lived to Talk About It** | + | * [[:stories:heavy_weather_9_28_2013#several_people_got_into_trouble_and_cold|Several Paddlers Got Into Trouble Bellingham]] (Conditions Got Stronger While They Were On the Water, But That Should Not Have Been A Surprise) Sept 2013 |
| - | * [[:stories:lawler_loch_ness|Ivan Lawler Choosing the Wrong Surfski and the Wrong Clothing for Cold Scotland Race]] | + | * [[:stories:unexpected_consequences|Too Cold and Too Tired to Remount Seattle]] Dec. 2014 |
| - | * [[https://tcsurfski.com/2020/10/25/a-very-cold-virtual-chattajack/|Billy Belinger's 4hr Back Country River Race in Cold Conditions]] | + | * [[:stories:lawler_loch_ness|Ivan Lawler Choosing the Wrong Surfski and the Wrong Clothing for Cold Scotland Race]] 2020? |
| + | * [[https://tcsurfski.com/2020/10/25/a-very-cold-virtual-chattajack/|Billy Belinger's 4hr Michigan Back Country River Race in Cold Conditions]] Oct. 2020 | ||
| + | * [[:stories:coastguard_rescue_12_11_2022|Bellingham Coast Guard Rescue]] Dec. 2022 | ||
| + | * [[:stories:coastguard_rescue_safety_lessons#dan_s_water_clothing_and_immersion|What the Paddler Was Wearing]] | ||
| + | * **Paddlers Who Did Not Survive Cold Water** | ||
| + | * **Possible Mistakes: Paddling Solo, Inadequate Clothing, Inadequate Communication Devices** | ||
| + | * [[:stories:new_zealand_death_8_11_2018|New Zealand Fatality]] Aug 11, 2018 (hypothermia and drowning interaction?) | ||
| + | * **When Conditions Turned Markedly Worse During Paddle** | ||
| + | * [[:stories:unfortunate_accident|A Very Sad Accident - Bellingham, WA, USA ]]November 15, 2007 incident | ||
| + | * [[:stories:dress_air_water|Doug Tompkins's Death in Chile]] Dec 2015 | ||
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| - | ===== Dealing With/Minimizing Overheating ===== | ||
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| - | There are various suggestions sprinkled around the wiki about ways to minimize overheating when you are dressed warmly enough to protect yourself during immersion. We are now going to try to collect and centralize such comments and suggestions here. | ||
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| - | * [[https://www.coldwatersafety.org/hot-weather|Avoiding Overheating When Weather is Warm but You Are Dressed for Cold Water Immersion]] National Center for Cold Water Safety | ||
| - | * Having **removable/adjustable clothing** like warm hats and hoods that can be removed or added | ||
| - | * **Cooling down if needed** | ||
| - | * Taking a dip in the water | ||
| - | * Sticking your hat in the water and back on your head | ||
| - | * From Jim Schulz: | ||
| - | * "One thing you can do to help keep from overheating in a neoprene wetsuit is to wear a **long sleeve SPF shirt on the outside of the wetsuit**. It will **keep the sun from heating up the black neoprene** and you can also **get it wet if you need to which will help create some evaporative cooling**. These were suggestions given to us on a web meeting from the director of the National Center for Cold Water Safety, Moulton Avery (see [[http://www.coldwatersafety.org/hot-weather|article link]] from the Center above) and has worked for me on sunny days when the water is still very cold. He also recommended wearing thin neoprene gloves under pogies which I don't do but I do sometimes carry some neoprene gloves with me on downwinds just in case. On really cold days depending on how far I have to walk to the put in, I wear winter gloves to the put in then stash them in a dry bag on my boat then paddle with pogies then put them on after the paddle to carry the boat to the car. This is something that creek boater taught me!" | ||
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| * [[:clothing_cold|Cold Water Clothing]] | * [[:clothing_cold|Cold Water Clothing]] | ||
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| + | ===== Dealing With/Minimizing Overheating ===== | ||
| + | |||
| + | <WRAP indent> | ||
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| + | There are various suggestions sprinkled around the wiki about ways to minimize overheating when you are dressed warmly enough to protect yourself during immersion. We are now going to try to collect and centralize such comments and suggestions here. | ||
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| + | * [[https://www.coldwatersafety.org/hot-weather|Avoiding Overheating When Weather is Warm but You Are Dressed for Cold Water Immersion]] **National Center for Cold Water Safety** | ||
| + | * Having **removable/adjustable clothing** like warm hats and hoods that can be removed or adjusted | ||
| + | * Hoodies that are part of wetsuits can be pulled down to release heat | ||
| + | * **Cooling down if needed** | ||
| + | * Taking a dip in the water/Practice remounts | ||
| + | * Sticking your hat in the water and back on your head. | ||
| + | * From Jim Schulz: | ||
| + | * "One thing you can do to help keep from overheating in a neoprene wetsuit is to wear a **long sleeve SPF shirt on the outside of the wetsuit**. It will **keep the sun from heating up the black neoprene** and you can also **get it wet if you need to which will help create some evaporative cooling ** (Ed: //These will work better on days when there is sunshine which are also the kinds of days when you will have the greatest tendency to overheat. And cold water on your outside shirt could also add a bit of conductive cooling. Cotton works very well for evaporative cooling. Every thing needs to be kept in balance - if you are downwinding, you may find that you are kept sufficiently wet to not require or want additional cooling//). These were suggestions given to us on a web meeting from the director of the National Center for Cold Water Safety, Moulton Avery (see [[http://www.coldwatersafety.org/hot-weather|article link]] from the Center above) and has worked for me on sunny days when the water is still very cold. He also recommended wearing thin neoprene gloves under pogies which I don't do but I do sometimes carry some neoprene gloves with me on downwinds just in case. On really cold days depending on how far I have to walk to the put in, I wear winter gloves to the put in then stash them in a dry bag on my boat then paddle with pogies then put them on after the paddle to carry the boat to the car. This is something that creek boater taught me!" | ||
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