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Advanced Rescue Ideas

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:21 +0000

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-	So having done over 200 search and nearly all rescues, in the most nasty conditions you can imagine, dark, blizzards, avalanche conditions, deep deep snow, We've gotten fairly hard core, especially on out of bounds-back country stuff, which is what I consider paddling the bay or any where in storm conditions. Whats really created a strong focus on risk or dumb thinking is instigating a $500.00 min charge whenever we go out, and usually it goes more to a $1000.-$2000 amount. Charging has not stopped people requesting our help, because the alternative is probably death. Yes I know everyone pays taxes etc etc, but you don't get a free ambulance ride nor should the boat ride by the Coast Guard be free also. After all these years, we've got a incredible drone-(DSI-210 AC) dual operator, cystral sky screens, here's the best part, a $14,000 heat seeking camera. Will pick up a person a long long distance away. It'll fly in 45mph gusts, and constant 30 mph winds. It's a big unit but easy to launch from a boat. Not sure why all search outfits don't have them, other than it takes some consistent training and a part 07 FAA license. Would find someone so fast that's in the water with that heat camera. On another note, a strongly worded educational sign at Launch sites, talking about the process of rescue not just about cold water immersion would go a long way to making most people safer, but not all. In sat's deal, going straight to the CG by radio was done to avoid 911dispatch, which can be a cluster at times.	+	**water search\\
		+	Duncan Howat (long time owner/operator Mt. Baker Ski Area)\\**
		+	05/05/2020 #26678

-	Duncan Howat (long time owner/operator Mt. Baker Ski Area)	+	So having done over 200 search and nearly all rescues, in the most nasty conditions you can imagine, dark, blizzards, avalanche conditions, deep deep snow, We've gotten fairly hard core, especially on out of bounds-back country stuff, which is what I consider paddling the bay or any where in storm conditions. Whats really created a strong focus on risk or dumb thinking is instigating a $500.00 min charge whenever we go out, and usually it goes more to a $1000.-$2000 amount. Charging has not stopped people requesting our help, because the alternative is probably death. Yes I know everyone pays taxes etc etc, but you don't get a free ambulance ride nor should the boat ride by the Coast Guard be free also. After all these years, we've got a incredible drone-(DSI-210 AC) dual operator, cystral sky screens, here's the best part, a $14,000 heat seeking camera. Will pick up a person a long long distance away. It'll fly in 45mph gusts, and constant 30 mph winds. It's a big unit but easy to launch from a boat. Not sure why all search outfits don't have them, other than it takes some consistent training and a part 07 FAA license. Would find someone so fast that's in the water with that heat camera. On another note, a strongly worded educational sign at Launch sites, talking about the process of rescue not just about cold water immersion would go a long way to making most people safer, but not all. In sat's deal, going straight to the CG by radio was done to avoid 911dispatch, which can be a cluster at times.

Alan Lipp's Birch Bay Downwind Diagnosis

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:21 +0000

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-	—–> CHECK the tide at Birch Bay - IT IS A SHALLOW BAY & BEACH IS EXPOSED AT LOW TIDE —> Low tide means you walk out to the water then paddle through eel grass to get to waves to surf ….\\	+	—–> CHECK the tide at Birch Bay - IT IS A SHALLOW BAY & BEACH IS EXPOSED AT LOW TIDE —> Low tide means you walk out to the water then paddle through eel grass to get to waves to surf ….
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		+	[[https://www.tideschart.com/United-States/Washington/Whatcom-County/Birch-Bay/\|TideCharts Birch Bay]]\\
	[[http://www.windfinder.com/forecast/birch_bay_state_park\|http://www.windfinder.com/forecast/birch_bay_state_park]]\\		[[http://www.windfinder.com/forecast/birch_bay_state_park\|http://www.windfinder.com/forecast/birch_bay_state_park]]\\
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-	----->CHECK: [[http://www.windfinder.com/forecast/cherry_point\|Cherry Point Windfinder.com]]- is wind predicted from NW or NNW above 12 mph?\\	+	—–>CHECK: [[http://www.windfinder.com/forecast/cherry_point\|Cherry Point Windfinder.com]]- is wind predicted from NW or NNW above 12 mph?\\
	[[http://www.windfinder.com/forecast/cherry_point\|http://www.windfinder.com/forecast/cherry_point]]		[[http://www.windfinder.com/forecast/cherry_point\|http://www.windfinder.com/forecast/cherry_point]]

Algae Bloom?

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:21 +0000

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	+	lori & beau whitehead \\
	+	07/12/18 #23429
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	+	Any of you Marine Bio types know why the bay has been rust colored this week? Looks like someone butchered a whale out there.
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	+	Tyler Irwin \\
	+	07/12/18 #23430
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	+	Red Tide
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	+	-Tyler
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	+	David Hooper
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	+	07/12/18 #23431
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	+	Good question, Beau. I was wondering the same thing, but hadn’t checked up on it yet. I’ll get in touch with Robin Kodner in my department, who studies exactly that.
	+
	+	Dave
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	+	Reivers Dustin
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	+	07/12/18 #23432
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	+	when I did Portage last week the early part was very flat and still. with the sun behind me I could see down in the water. it seemed like a layer of something down about two or three feet. clumpy. flakes or like tissue paper shreds maybe the size of a dime. just laying there over a long wide area. at first I was trying to paddle so as to not splash on myself and make sure I didn't put my feet over. but that's just silly right? \\
	+	There's nothin rong with me. Right guys? my fingertips feel s a little funy. but ...\\
	+	I'm sure you guys would tell me if I was a wierdo. sure.
	+
	+	David Hooper \\
	+	07/12/18 #23436
	+
	+	Robin reports the algal bloom is likely caused by a species of brown algae called Heterosigma akashiwo. She’s going to sample it tomorrow, evidently. It is officially a harmful algal bloom (HAB), that can kill fish by an as yet unknown mechanism. No toxins discovered yet – it just may be the fish suffocate. So I don’t think you’re gonna die if you swim in it. Just don’t drink large volumes of sea water. But don’t worry, Reivers, I’m sure plenty of folks will let you know if you behave weirdly.
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	+	Here’s the Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterosigma_akashiwo
	+
	+	While lots of salmon farms have been affected in the past, Wikipedia reports “These blooms are neither caused nor exasperated by fish farming.[7]”
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	+	That’s a good thing. I’ll bet the algae would be really mean if they got exasperated.
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	+	This may be why B’ham Bay and all the San Juans are currently closed for all shellfish except crab and shrimp: https://fortress.wa.gov/doh/eh/maps/biotoxin/biotoxin.html
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	+	Dave
	+
	+	allipp@...
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	+	07/13/18 #23438
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	+	Am I the only one that is exasperated by the fact that they should have used the word exacerbated?
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	+	lori & beau whitehead \\
	+	07/13/18 #23439
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	+	Thanks Dave!
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	+	lori & beau whitehead \\
	+	07/13/18 #23440
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	+	Both definitions work... sort of.
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	+	David Hooper \\
	+	07/13/18 #23441
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	+	Alan, don’t let your exasperation exacerbate your exhalations or you might hyperventilate and pass out.
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	+	D
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	+	Reivers Dustin
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	+	07/13/18 #23442
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	+	my sentiments eggzackary. rd
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Ambleside Park Laps

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:21 +0000

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	+	====== Ambleside Park Laps ======
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	+	Ambleside Park provides a fun shuttle-free opportunity to ride waves upstream and near effortless return paddling. The waves are in a defined channel so you may paddle to either side to calmer water. The best time to paddle is with a west or northwest wind two hours either side of max ebb.
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	+	Paddling the Ambleside [[:tidal_races\|tide race]] is never the same twice. The wave area may vary from 100 meters to a few kilometers. The waves may be one-meter tall to over-head monsters. It is rarely smooth so you will gain experience with cross-chop and unpredictable wave patterns. This is a shipping channel so stay alert for pleasure craft and large freighters. Check out this video of Wilson Reavley and Ana Swetish paddling Ambleside - from a couple of consecutive, good condition days.
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	+	{{ youtube>2lOLBolOs8w?large }}
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	+	----
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	+	===== Getting There =====
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	+	* Entrance to Ambleside Park is by 13th and Marine in West Vancouver
	+	* From TransCanada Hwy 1 take the 15th street exit (exit 11). Turn left on Marine then right on 13th.
	+	* If you drive north over Lions Gate Bridge on Hwy 99, join Marine Drive, then stay on Marine when 99 turns north and continue west until left turn onto 13th.
	+
	+	===== When and Where Ambleside Works =====
	+
	+	* When the current is ebbing with NW wind and wave action, the waves stand up where they collide with the strongest current. Same as the Gorge. From shore you can see the tide rip. It's like a strip of rough water. Its always different, but usually 500 - 1000 yards offshore.
	+	* The water in between shore and the tide rip is usually calm or rolling. Lots of easy water to play around in. Waves are rolling upstream against the current, like the Gorge. So you paddle out to the rip and bite off as much as you can chew. Surf upstream, float back downstream for another run. The waves often tend to smooth out in the "upstream" section toward the east and can be somewhat more catchable there.
	+	* Closer to max ebb the current is stronger and will make waves more work to catch and stay on. Tidal rip wave surfing tends to be harder work than typical downwinding, so you may be toast after an hour. Take a break and check the park or seawall walk out, or get something to eat and do some more laps later if the waves are still there.
	+	* See map below.
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	+	{{:downwind:amblesidemap.png?nolink&1302x750}}
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	+	===== Wind Apps and Sites =====
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	+	* [[https://www.hahnsoftware.com/\|AyeTides]]. For iPhone, iTouch and Ipad.
	+	* [[https://www.tideschart.com/Canada/British-Columbia/Metro-Vancouver-Regional-District/Ambleside-Beach/Weekly/\|TidesChart Ambleside]]
	+	* [[https://www.windy.com/-Webcams/Canada/British-Columbia/West-Vancouver/Hollyburn-Sailing-Club/webcams/1217348947?49.318,-123.287,11\|Windy - Ambleside]] Wind Forecast w/ webcam
	+	* Webcams neither of these 2 webcams really shows the tide rip well. But if you see surfskis or OCs doing laps…
	+	* [[http://hollyburnsailingclub.ca/club/webcam/\|Ambleside Hollyburn Sailing Club]] just west of Ambleside Park - includes wind and tide forecast
	+	* [[http://www.kiteboardbc.com/webcam/westvan/\|West Vancouver Kiteboarding Webcam ]] this webcam is a little farther west than the Hollyburn webcam so the view is west of where Ambleside laps are usually run, although the laps can sometimes extend west into this area (and involve large waves)
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	+	{{youtube>o8AGW1yiCyQ}}
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	+	----
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	+	===== Videos =====
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	+	* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lOLBolOs8w&list=PLFADvIYspNJEdKqB_PW_fNL-pC1EQDdOE\|Ambleside Youtube Videos]]
	+	* [[:vancouver_bc_downwind_videos#west_vancouver\|Vancouver Videos]] Some Additional Ambleside Videos
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American Samoa Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:22 +0000

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		+	Outrigger Canoes Launch at Utulei

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Ancient Murrelets

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:22 +0000

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-	[[:surfski.wiki:bellngham_surfski_godfather\|Duncan Howat]]\\	+	[[:bellngham_surfski_godfather\|Duncan Howat]]\\
	03/03/15 #16988		03/03/15 #16988

Vega Arc Rudder Lines

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Wed, 09 Jul 2025 19:26:41 +0000

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	Paul Reavley \\		Paul Reavley \\
-	3:14pm 7/9/2025 #37784	+	7/9/2025 #37784

	Reivers,\\		Reivers,\\
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	Reivers Dustin \\		Reivers Dustin \\
-	3:34pm 7/9/2025 #37785	+	7/9/2025 #37785

-	Agree Paul. Since that all happened, Duncan noticed some signs of stress on his cable at that spot. It got me worried, so I looked and mine is showing a sign of stress at that spot again. \\	+	Agree Paul. Since that all happened, Duncan noticed some signs of stress on his cable at that spot. It got me worried, so I looked and mine is showing a sign of stress at that spot again.\\
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-	For you similar boat owners, this is something to monitor. It would be "disturbing". Like that villain guy in "the Fifth Element" where he says, "I Am ... Disturbed" as he starts blowing people away. \\	+	For you similar boat owners, this is something to monitor. It would be "disturbing". Like that villain guy in "the Fifth Element" where he says, "I Am … Disturbed" as he starts blowing people away.\\
	\\		\\
	If you are in the gorge on a big day, not good.		If you are in the gorge on a big day, not good.

Ares/Vega Rudder Springs

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:22 +0000

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	+	====== Ares/Vega Rudder Springs ======
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	+	polycarbonate (?) spring-holder for Ares rudder - question about your maintenance routines
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	+	Susan DeBari Jun 5 #31739
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	+	The plastic/polycarbonate spring holder on my Ares cracked today while I was out paddling in the waves. I was south of post point heading into the wind and waves and suddenly noticed that I had no left steering. I turned around by steering right and surfed back downwind using rudder to steer right and paddle to steer left. When I got to shore I confirmed I had no ability to push down on the left pedal and so screwed off the black rudder cap/puck to take a look. The attached picture shows what I found - a cracked spring plate.
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	+	My Ares is about 6 years old and I have never changed out the spring plate, nor had trouble with the rudder (but our Gemini is a whole other story....)
	+
	+	My question is this - do those of you who own an Ares change out your spring plate or spring as part of routine maintenance? Should I have done that say after year 3? Or was this just a freak accident?
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	+	The waves were so good I tried again with a (fat) surfski. Some solace was had.
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	+	Sue DeBari
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	+	{{:oc:ares_rudder_spring.jpg?direct&300x400}}
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	+	allipp@... Jun 6 #31741
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	+	Edited Jun 6
	+
	+	It looks like the cracked plate somehow wedged the spring into a position that wouldn't allow you to steer left. For now, you can probably just remove the spring and put the round black top-plate/yoke back on and your steering should work, albeit without the ability to self center. Ozone should hopefully have a replacement spring plate you can order from their website.
	+
	+	I know this didn't answer your question about maintenance, but this is the first time I've heard of this issue happening.
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	+	bflannelly50 Jun 6 #31742
	+
	+	I have replaced cracked spring holders for two Ares. I’ve been lucky-neither was mine, although I’ve replaced my broken springs several times. There’s a bit of a trick to installing the spring holders: put the screws in part way, then twist the holders around until the rudder lines up straight. It might be smart to replace both parts as preventative maintenance, but I’m not that wise. I just bless the parts prior to use and employ inappropriate language when they fail. JD keeps a good stock of both springs and spring holders.
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	+	Father Flannelly
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin Jun 6 #31744
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	+	Looks very similar to Vega surfski system. I've noticed no problems, but this might be a heads up. I'm thinking that this may mean there was at some time a super hard push on the left rudder pedal - leading to overpressure on this polycarb rudder-stop (kinda winging it here). In times of great stress I've been known to push all the buttons as often and as hard as I can.
	+
	+	From looking at the Vega set up these parts look very stout. Note that there is a substantial penalty for taking crap apart and putting it back together badly. I broke a rudder cable when putting the little cap back on such that the cable was routed into a pinch point and eventually broke. Makes me nervous if there is a requirement to take it apart every so often.
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	+	rd
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	+	michaelwood Jun 6 #31747
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	+	In 7 yrs of paddling Ares and 2.5 of Flex year round multiple times a week I've only had 1 busted spring. So probably not much to worry over. But easily replaced . Never busted the screw plate.
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	+	A slightly backed out rudder screw will allow rudder to drop just enough to cause rudder to not fully work properly and get stuck on one side. So good practice to occasionally check for full seating with Phillips head regardless of how much 242 you put on threads.
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	+	Susan DeBari Jun 6 #31748
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	+	Thank you for the feedback. The good people at Ozone are sending me a complimentary replacement spring holder/screw plate.
	+
	+	Sue
	+

Argentina Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Thu, 26 Mar 2026 19:54:01 +0000

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		+	[[:local\|Safety: What you should know about local waters]]
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Arizona Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 25 Jan 2026 16:04:09 +0000

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-	* [[https://seakayakexplorer.com/kayaking-tucson-az/#more-6935\|Best Places to Paddle]]	+	* [[https://seakayakexplorer.com/kayaking-tucson-az/#more-6935\|Best Places to Paddle Near Tucson]]
	* [[https://www.riverboundsports.com/places-to-paddle-in-arizona/\|Riverbound Sports Paddling in Arizona]]		* [[https://www.riverboundsports.com/places-to-paddle-in-arizona/\|Riverbound Sports Paddling in Arizona]]
	* [[https://paddlingmag.com/trips/destinations/paddleboard-arizona/\|SUP Paddle Routes]]		* [[https://paddlingmag.com/trips/destinations/paddleboard-arizona/\|SUP Paddle Routes]]

Aruba Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:23 +0000

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-	[[:barbados\|Barbados]], [[:british_virgin_isles\|British Virgin Islands]], [[:cayman_islands\|Cayman Islands]], [[:curacao\|Curaçao]], [[:guadeloupe\|Guadeloupe]], [[:martinique\|Martinique]], [[:puerto_rico\|Puerto Rico]], [[:saint_martin_sint_maarten\|Saint-Martin/Sint Maarten]], [[:trinidad_tobago\|Trinidad & Tobago]], [[:us_virgin_isles\|US Virgin Islands]]	+	* [[:caribbean_islands\|Caribbean Islands]]
		+	* ...

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Re: pfd - Astral-V-Eight & Mocke

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:23 +0000

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	Brandon Nelson \\		Brandon Nelson \\
-	09/12/13 #14862	+	09/12/13 #14862

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	I got it just before we left for the Wildside relay. I admit to feeling “validated” when Greg Barton showed up in the exact same PFD.		I got it just before we left for the Wildside relay. I admit to feeling “validated” when Greg Barton showed up in the exact same PFD.

-	Heather bought a Mocke recently, and those are quality as well. The biggest obvious differences are that the Mocke is a pull-over vest, and the Astral is a front zip. Also, the Mocke has a big front and bigger back center pocket. The Astral has a smaller front side pocket that would hold a smaller VHF, and an even smaller upper front pocket that’s for things like chapstick, a whistle, etc. I don’t have an accurate enough scale to weigh them, but I would estimate the Astral is 25-40% lighter than the Mocke. This is just my estimate by picking them up.	+	Heather bought a Mocke recently, and those are quality as well. The biggest obvious differences are that the Mocke is a pull-over vest, and the Astral is a front zip. Also, the Mocke has a big front and bigger back center pocket. The Astral has a smaller front side pocket that would hold a smaller VHF, and an even smaller upper front pocket that’s for things like chapstick, a whistle, etc. I don’t have an accurate enough scale to weigh them, but I would estimate the Astral is 25-40% lighter than the Mocke. This is just my estimate by picking them up.

	I used the Astral on the 24 hour paddle and had zero chafe – something that’s been hard for me to achieve over the years. It also save my bacon 2 or 3 times when I went for a swim. J They’re $105 through REI, so with your membership discount you’re under $100.		I used the Astral on the 24 hour paddle and had zero chafe – something that’s been hard for me to achieve over the years. It also save my bacon 2 or 3 times when I went for a swim. J They’re $105 through REI, so with your membership discount you’re under $100.

Australia Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Thu, 26 Mar 2026 19:59:01 +0000

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	With a sport oriented culture and a population concentrated on its endless coastlines, Australia is a natural location for a thriving surfski community. And as a country of surf lifesaving programs up and down its coasts, it has been one of the fundamental developers of surfskis and surfski paddling and produces many of the world's top surfski paddlers.		With a sport oriented culture and a population concentrated on its endless coastlines, Australia is a natural location for a thriving surfski community. And as a country of surf lifesaving programs up and down its coasts, it has been one of the fundamental developers of surfskis and surfski paddling and produces many of the world's top surfski paddlers.
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Australia Downwind/Paddle Videos

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Tue, 11 Nov 2025 19:01:03 +0000

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	* [[https://www.youtube.com/@camtheainbargara7165/videos\|Camthea in Bargara Youtube Channel]]		* [[https://www.youtube.com/@camtheainbargara7165/videos\|Camthea in Bargara Youtube Channel]]
-	* ...	+	* …

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	* [[https://www.youtube.com/@kesleykernes/videos\|Kesley Kernes Youtube Channel]]		* [[https://www.youtube.com/@kesleykernes/videos\|Kesley Kernes Youtube Channel]]
	* [[https://www.youtube.com/@toddboreland5798/videos\|Todd Boreland Youtube Channel]]		* [[https://www.youtube.com/@toddboreland5798/videos\|Todd Boreland Youtube Channel]]
-	* ...	+	* See also [[:bundeena_videos\|Bundeena Videos]]
		+	* …

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Austria Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:23 +0000

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	* [[https://www.surfskifun.com/\|Surfski Fun]] Hungary, [[https://kanuschule-bodensee.ch/\|Kanuschule Bodensee]] also Nelo (Lake Constance, Switzerland)		* [[https://www.surfskifun.com/\|Surfski Fun]] Hungary, [[https://kanuschule-bodensee.ch/\|Kanuschule Bodensee]] also Nelo (Lake Constance, Switzerland)
	* [[https://wetiz.eu/de/\|Fenn (Zacki Surf & Sport)]] German Rep		* [[https://wetiz.eu/de/\|Fenn (Zacki Surf & Sport)]] German Rep
-	* [[https://www.kayak-connection.at/\|Kayak Connection]] Nelo, Mazu	+	* [[https://www.kayak-connection.at/\|Kayak Connection]] Nelo, Mazu, NK
	* [[https://www.facebook.com/NELO-Austria-312646135823015/\|Nelo Austria (Facebook)]]		* [[https://www.facebook.com/NELO-Austria-312646135823015/\|Nelo Austria (Facebook)]]
	* [[https://www.liteventure.de/\|Stellar]] (Germany, Switzerland, Austria)		* [[https://www.liteventure.de/\|Stellar]] (Germany, Switzerland, Austria)

Avila Beach (San Luis Obispo Bay)

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:23 +0000

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	* Avila Beach - Oceano Beach ~ 8 miles [[https://youtu.be/wYMK4Y7GxSE\|video]]		* Avila Beach - Oceano Beach ~ 8 miles [[https://youtu.be/wYMK4Y7GxSE\|video]]
	* …		* …
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Azores Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:24 +0000

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	* [[https://www.cnhorta.org/\|Clube Naval da Horta]]		* [[https://www.cnhorta.org/\|Clube Naval da Horta]]
-	* [[https://www.facebook.com/clube.nauticolagoa/?locale=pt_BR\|Clube Náutico da Lagoa]]	+	* [[https://www.facebook.com/clube.nauticolagoa/?locale=pt_BR\|Clube Náutico da Lagoa (facebook)]]
	* [[https://www.facebook.com/clubenavalpv/?locale=pt_BR\|Clube Naval da Praia da Vitória (facebook)]]		* [[https://www.facebook.com/clubenavalpv/?locale=pt_BR\|Clube Naval da Praia da Vitória (facebook)]]
	* [[https://cnpdl.pt/\|Clube Naval de Ponta Delgada]]		* [[https://cnpdl.pt/\|Clube Naval de Ponta Delgada]]

Nicholas Cryder: Advanced Surfski Balance

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:11:01 +0000

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	If your balance paradigm relies on reaction, then you are essentially juggling. This works fine with many scenarios like flat water or even medium size downwind… but truly messy, rough water adds many more balls moving in many different directions. The brain can only do so much, and eventually you drop a ball and in you go. Not good.\\		If your balance paradigm relies on reaction, then you are essentially juggling. This works fine with many scenarios like flat water or even medium size downwind… but truly messy, rough water adds many more balls moving in many different directions. The brain can only do so much, and eventually you drop a ball and in you go. Not good.\\
	\\		\\
-	If however your balance paradigm is based on connection, then you are using a premeditated skill that mitigates the need to react to what the water is doing. You paddle on your own terms, despite what the water is doing. It makes a world of difference in rough water.	+	If however your balance paradigm is based on connection, then you are using a premeditated skill that mitigates the need to react to what the water is doing. You paddle on your own terms, despite what the water is doing. It makes a world of difference in rough water. (Ed.- //We believe that this will help you in other situations also. Glassy water, even without large wave action, can also throw many paddler's depth perception off and incline them toward reactive paddling//)

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Nicholas Cryder: Advanced Surfski Balance

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sat, 17 May 2025 19:32:35 +0000

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	I agree that elite skis / k1's improve balance, because balance is learned skill and not just innate reflex. Yes, there is such a thing as innate balance, but I would describe that as merely the first rung on the balance ladder. Some gifted ones get to start on the second or even the third rung if they are a generational talent… but no one starts on the top.\\		I agree that elite skis / k1's improve balance, because balance is learned skill and not just innate reflex. Yes, there is such a thing as innate balance, but I would describe that as merely the first rung on the balance ladder. Some gifted ones get to start on the second or even the third rung if they are a generational talent… but no one starts on the top.\\
	\\		\\
-	So how to actually do it? Progression. Moving to a more demanding craft at the right time / place is a crucial tool for continuing to progress those balance skills and climb the development ladder until it's feasible (maybe not always wise) to paddle in an elite ski in damn near anything.\\	+	So how to actually do it? Progression. Moving to a more demanding craft at the right time / place (//Ed. Keep in mind [[:first_surfski#alan_hunter_s_advice\|Alan Hunter's advice]]: ... if someone points you to a faster boat before you've throttled everything out of your current boat they're doing you an injustice...//) is a crucial tool for continuing to progress those balance skills and climb the development ladder until it's feasible (maybe not always wise) to paddle in an elite ski in damn near anything.\\
	\\		\\
	There are a matrix of assets and liabilities that factor in progression to take place safely. Just hopping in a demanding boat needs to be done carefully and in consideration of what the end goal is vs the resources to actually get there. Our sport is very unique in that there is such a fine line between "I'm having the best day of my life!" and "Oh shit, this might be the last day of my life…" Things that I personally believe need to factor in balance progression; physical fitness, psychology, risk tolerance, safety measures and exposure.\\		There are a matrix of assets and liabilities that factor in progression to take place safely. Just hopping in a demanding boat needs to be done carefully and in consideration of what the end goal is vs the resources to actually get there. Our sport is very unique in that there is such a fine line between "I'm having the best day of my life!" and "Oh shit, this might be the last day of my life…" Things that I personally believe need to factor in balance progression; physical fitness, psychology, risk tolerance, safety measures and exposure.\\

Bali Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Fri, 01 Aug 2025 19:36:04 +0000

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	* [[https://www.facebook.com/cedricsaveuse\|Cedric Saveuse (facebook)]]		* [[https://www.facebook.com/cedricsaveuse\|Cedric Saveuse (facebook)]]
-	* [[https://gekodivebali.com/en/\|Geko Dive Bali - Padang Bai]] this is primarily a diving website. Cedric Saveuse reports that while there are not many surfskis in Bali as of 2022, there are some at Geko Dive Bali.	+	* [[https://gekodivebali.com/\|Geko Dive Bali - Padang Bai]] this is primarily a diving website. Cedric Saveuse reports that while there are not many surfskis in Bali as of 2022, there are some at Geko Dive Bali.
	* [[https://www.totalsup.com/news/where-to-stand-up-paddle-in-bali-davide-codottos-sup-guide/\|SUP Guide to Bali]] this guy says that Bali isn't great for downwinding because of the irregular coastline and unfavorable prevailing wind directions.		* [[https://www.totalsup.com/news/where-to-stand-up-paddle-in-bali-davide-codottos-sup-guide/\|SUP Guide to Bali]] this guy says that Bali isn't great for downwinding because of the irregular coastline and unfavorable prevailing wind directions.

Barbados Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:24 +0000

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-	[[:aruba\|Aruba]], [[:british_virgin_isles\|British Virgin Islands]], [[:cayman_islands\|Cayman Islands]], [[:curacao\|Curaçao]], [[:guadeloupe\|Guadeloupe]], [[:martinique\|Martinique]], [[:puerto_rico\|Puerto Rico]], [[:saint_martin_sint_maarten\|Saint-Martin/Sint Maarten]], [[:trinidad_tobago\|Trinidad & Tobago]], [[:us_virgin_isles\|US Virgin Islands]]	+	* [[:caribbean_islands\|Caribbean Islands]]
		+	* ...

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barnacle_definition

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Barnacles

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-	Duncan Howat\\	+	[[:bellngham_surfski_godfather\|Duncan Howat]]\\
	03/17/21 #28823		03/17/21 #28823

Barnacles and Bumblebees

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:25 +0000

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	+
	+	**6/14 Thurs Barnacle Run\\
	+	Reivers Dustin** \\
	+	06/14/18 #23223
	+
	+	Was inspired to go long. 14 miles long. Put in at Marina with Dmow. Pretty stiff 20mph headwind and chop 'n slop across the bay. We got to MP just as LG was putting in. Nobody was cheering or waving. LG joined us for the slog down to Governors. It would have been boring, but LG was chatting us up. And then mid-sentence he barks like a seal and jumps in the water. hoookaay, kinda not really that rough, but maybe he is having a different experience than others. Takes him a while to get organized and back upright. then the story comes out. He had been feeling an itch in his PFD and was trying to reach it. Turns out it was a bumblebee. Bee jumped out of his PFD and onto his leg and vented it's feelings about being a mile offshore. Dang. If all-you-all want to not be bored on a paddle, take LG along with you. He's a hoot.
	+
	+	Oh yeah, wind started dying by the time we got to Governors. LG was laughing at us going to Whiskey, said we would be faster walking back. ha ha. He was right. Dmow had to wait for me a lot. We both got tireded out. Max was miffed. nobody wanted to play after he's been hung out for 3hrs waiting.
	+
	+	Nap time for rd.
	+

BBRWRace Course Map (2021)

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:25 +0000

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		+	Marc Blake \\
		+	Mar 20 #28851
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		+	Results are here:
		+
		+	https://pacificmultisports.com/results/bellinghambayroughwater2021/
		+
		+	If you started with a Long Course wave, but elected to the short course, please let us know if you haven't already.
		+
		+	Thanks!

	Reivers Dustin \\		Reivers Dustin \\

Bellingham Bay Rough Water 2022

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:25 +0000

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		+	BBRWR - first liar
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		+	Reivers Dustin Mar 19 #31265 \\
		+	Dangit, results already published. From my perspective just about goldilocks conditions. I had a rough start. And a troubled childhood. But maybe both are my own fault. But after that first turn there really were some rides. On the first return lap it didn't seem like as harsh against the wind as usual. Second lap still had good runs on the long stretch. But when my odometer hit 8 miles there was no giddyup in my gitalong. I got passed by several on the last pull up to the finish.
		+
		+	Probably for the best. In the event that I had won the Barnacle trophy I had prepared a short speech of 20 or 30 minutes. But I'm pretty sure that some of the other barnacles had brought some rotten fruit and stuff to throw.
		+
		+	And besides that there's all this b.s. about a whale. I was in my car changing. Those pictures could be photoshopped.
		+
		+	BBRWR 2022 photos are now online \\
		+	Michael Lampi Mar 20 #31270
		+
		+	A bunch of photos are now online at the Sound Rowers web site: http://www.soundrowers.org/racePhotos/2022/BBRWR/index.html

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Grand Barnacle Trophy

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:25 +0000

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	+	Kevin Olney Mar 15 #31199
	+
	+	This year's Rough Water Race will feature a new award: the Grand Barnacle of the Bay. The trophy will be presented to the top finisher in the long course over 65 years of age. The winner's name will be inscribed upon the base of the trophy and their glory will be remembered for generations to come.
	+
	+	{{:races:usa:grandbarn.jpg?direct&600x812}}
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	+	The top finishing Barnacle in the short course will receive a bottle of hot sauce.
	+
	+	{{:races:usa:sauce.jpg?direct&600x935}}
	+
	+	Register now: https://register.pacificmultisports.com/Events/1007/Register\\
	+	\\
	+	Chris Baker Mar 15 #31200
	+
	+	I'm a fan of that hot sauce. Barnacle trophy is cool as well. \\
	+	--\\
	+	Chris Baker
	+
	+	Tony Brown Mar 16 #31215
	+
	+	Is that PNWORCA rules 65 years old? Or actual birthday 65 years old? Asking for a friend.
	+
	+	David Scherrer Mar 17 #31223
	+
	+	Amazing Kevin…only one suggestion. Perhaps the Grand Barnacle award should be limited to 70 and older 🙂
	+
	+	joanandthom Mar 17 #31224
	+
	+	I agree with David. Deano may be a barnacle but he's not a "Grand Barnacle".
	+
	+	Dean Bumstead Mar 17 #31226
	+
	+	Hey....I take my naps just like the rest of you barnacles.
	+
	+	Paul Reavley Mar 17 #31228
	+
	+	Another alias?
	+
	+	"Because of barnacles’ tendency to encrust in large numbers on boats (Duncan, et.al.?), create drag... they are often called “"crusty foulers.""
	+
	+	Duncan Howat Mar 17 #31229
	+
	+	The age for the trophy's has to be 70 + because you lose at least 10 percent muscle mass per year past 70. In your 60's ,even up to 69 your still able to maintain that 40 year old body. That means that I have 80 percent less strength than Dean. Larry B 50 percent. Imagine someone just turning 60,as being qualified for this high honor. No one else would stand a chance. Besides they haven't gone through all the mind and body altering illnesses of the 60's. D
	+
	+	Dean Bumstead Mar 17 #31230
	+
	+	But my boat is 80% heavier.
	+
	+	DB
	+
	+	Kevin Olney Mar 17 #31237
	+
	+	Based on the arguments presented for both sides, the minimum age to receive the Grand Barnacle Award is now 70. Sorry Dean and Marc, you will have to wait until next year to be enshrined on the venerable trophy.
	+
	+	The Awards and Prizes Comitee
	+
	+	Jacquelyn Styrna Mar 17 #31238
	+
	+	Whoa-- nice art work. Can't wait to be a barnacle. Goals!!!
	+
	+	Dean Bumstead Mar 17 #31239
	+
	+	No problem. What’s a year at this age.
	+
	+	DB
	+
	+	Nick Kelly Mar 17 #31240
	+
	+	Duncan’s argument is interesting and compelling, but do we know if it is based on facts?
	+
	+	Kimberly Reeves Mar 17 #31241
	+
	+	What about the Salish Sirens? This isn’t strictly an all boys club.\\
	+	Kim
	+
	+	Duncan Howat Mar 17 #31242
	+
	+	Kim, just like real barnacles, especially the over 70's paddling barnacles, are functionally sequential hermaphrodites , can be male or female at any given time, and thats the whole truth.
	+
	+	Paul Reavley Mar 17 #31243
	+
	+	What Duncan said...,
	+
	+	And after 70, I am inclined to think that the male androgenic boost has already dwindled more than 10%/year. But maybe there should be a separate category for anyone taking supplemental testosterone.
	+
	+	Kimberly Reeves Mar 18 #31248
	+
	+	I appreciate the dude response, but the Sirens get to factor in menopause and unrelenting hot flashes. I think that gives us a ten year pad for qualifying… of course unless you are Sandy V and still killing it on the water.\\
	+	Kake
	+

BBOP race report

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:26 +0000

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	Reivers Dustin		Reivers Dustin

-	Jul 24 #29699 \\	+	Jul 24 #29699\\
-	kick in the pants. It reminded me of the small group races of 20/30 years ago. There was a race out of Granville Island that was just a pile of paddle monkeys like this. No bling, Pre-race meeting and Awards were so quick. Everyone goofing off instead of all game face.	+	kick in the pants. It reminded me of the small group races of 20/30 years ago. There was a race out of Granville Island that was just a pile of paddle monkeys like this. No bling, Pre-race meeting and Awards were so quick. Everyone goofing off instead of all game face.

-	Mostly flat, including my performance, but lots of yelling and screaming. Great race support on the water, (three power boats, plus a few watch folks on station). Interesting current decisions that probably didn't matter. That pull to the first turn was hard. The rest was a grind. Great food after.	+	Mostly flat, including my performance, but lots of yelling and screaming. Great race support on the water, (three power boats, plus a few watch folks on station). Interesting current decisions that probably didn't matter. That pull to the first turn was hard. The rest was a grind. Great food after.

	rd\\		rd\\
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-	Jul 24 #29705 \\	+	Jul 24 #29705\\
-	Yes those people packing a big boat and a small boat ( not sure what they’re called ) know how to eat. Thanks for the invite, I know surfski paddlers are kind of scum but it was great to mix it up.flex boy	+	Yes those people packing a big boat and a small boat ( not sure what they’re called ) know how to eat. Thanks for the invite, I know surfski paddlers are kind of scum but it was great to mix it up.flex boy

-	Dorothy Burke <dorothy_burke@...>	+	Dorothy Burke <dorothy_burke@…>

-	Jul 25 #29716 \\	+	Jul 25 #29716\\
-	Thank you all for coming! It was fun for us too. Glad you liked the food…	+	Thank you all for coming! It was fun for us too. Glad you liked the food…

	Janice Lapsansky		Janice Lapsansky

-	Jul 25 #29719 \\	+	Jul 25 #29719\\
-	Thank you for the kind words, the competition, and for the support of our club! Glad to hear you enjoyed the morning! Another day of superlatives producing many smiles. I for one hope to continue this lovely mix of paddlers in our future events! \\	+	Thank you for the kind words, the competition, and for the support of our club! Glad to hear you enjoyed the morning! Another day of superlatives producing many smiles. I for one hope to continue this lovely mix of paddlers in our future events!\\
	Best regards,\\		Best regards,\\
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-	Jul 28 #29738 \\	+	Jul 28 #29738\\
-	Probably 1000+ photos from the BBOP race on their Facebook page. \\	+	Probably 1000+ photos from the BBOP race on their Facebook page.\\
	Thanks Andy S for all the shots.		Thanks Andy S for all the shots.

Bellingham Canoe & Kayak Sprint Team (BCKST)

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:26 +0000

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	+	01/09/13 #13796
	+
	+	Great news! Bellingham Canoe & Kayak Sprint Team (BCKST) is a reality. It is a youth program that promotes access to sprint paddling, Olympic style, by offering classes and training to youth ages 9-18. All participants, including youth with disabilities, will have the opportunity and be encouraged to race and compete.
	+
	+	The home of BCKST is Lake Padden, where the boats are stored, and where we practice and race. BCKST is a nonprofit operation and it is a member of the USA Canoe and Kayak organization. BCKST training sessions will begin in mid-June, 2013. To all devoted parents and grandparents within the paddling community, please inform your beloved young athletes about BCKST and its fun and competitive opportunities. Come and join the program.
	+
	+	Registration to join BCKST will begin soon. Please contact me for more information about the youth program and how to sign up. Meanwhile BCKST needs some help. We are looking for boats. Any sprint kayak and sprint canoe, single or multiple, old or in any shape that you haven't used in a while and that you can share with the team, will be much appreciated. We will use it and at the same time will keep it for you at Lake Padden. I'm sure that some of these boats are still great for sprint paddle fundamentals. Also, we can use any old 8'-14' kayaks or unused old surfski. If you have canoe and kayak paddles that are not in use we definitely can use them. Please check out BCKST website [[http://www.bellinghamcanoekayak.org\|www.bellinghamcanoekayak.org]] for more information and insight.
	+
	+	Also check out your calendar: BCKST Inaugural Regatta will take place at Lake Padden, June 15, 2013, a Saturday. The Regatta is open to sprint canoe and kayak, surfski, OC, and SUP. There will be 200m, 500m 1000m, 2K and 5K races. The Regatta is open to all ages. As for now 5 youth sprint teams, 3 from Washington and 2 from BC, are attending.. It should be great fun and a great way to start a sprint canoe and kayak competition in Bellingham.
	+
	+	Your cooperation is appreciated, Thanks,\\
	+	Dan Baharav, Founder and Director
	+

Beginner Surfskis

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Mon, 04 Aug 2025 18:05:41 +0000

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	Then there is the "I'll grow into the boat" theory. Take an honest assessment. How much time will you have to train, how old are you, what are the conditions you will be paddling in and how much time do you want to spend "growing into it" From my observations, and I have watched a lot of people learn to paddle surfski, "growing into it" takes time, and it takes even longer if you are on a ski that is above your ability. Like I said a ski that is too unstable for you will hinder your growth and development.		Then there is the "I'll grow into the boat" theory. Take an honest assessment. How much time will you have to train, how old are you, what are the conditions you will be paddling in and how much time do you want to spend "growing into it" From my observations, and I have watched a lot of people learn to paddle surfski, "growing into it" takes time, and it takes even longer if you are on a ski that is above your ability. Like I said a ski that is too unstable for you will hinder your growth and development.

-	My advice is cough up some extra cash, maybe save a bit more, and buy a V8 or Think Ace (//Ed: or for more options take a look at other surfskis of similar width in our [[:surfski_tables\|surfski tables]]// ). You have JD in the Gorge who is an Epic Dealer, and I sell Think and Epic in Vancouver, BC.	+	My advice is cough up some extra cash, maybe save a bit more, and buy a V8 or Think Ace (//Ed: or for more options take a look at other surfskis of similar width in our [[:surfski_tables#beginner_surfskis\|beginner surfski table]]//). You have JD in the Gorge who is an Epic Dealer, and I sell Think and Epic in Vancouver, BC.

	John Rybczyk \\		John Rybczyk \\

Belgium Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Wed, 27 Aug 2025 11:58:13 +0000

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-	* [[https://www.carbonologysport.eu/\|Carbonology Sport Benelux]] based in the Netherlands but the main CS dealer for surrounding European countries including Belgium - they will know if there are any CS retail stores near to Belgium.	+	* [[https://www.carbonologysport.com/distributors/\|Carbonology Sport Distributors]] check with CS dealers for European countries? - they will know if there are any CS retail stores near to Belgium.

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Bellingham, WA (and nearby)

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-	* [[:bellingham_wide_area_conditions\|Bellingham Wide Area Conditions ]] tide, winds, weather, webcams	+	* Tide, Winds, Weather, Webcams****
		+	* [[:bellingham_local_conditions\|Bellingham Bay Conditions]]****
		+	* [[:bellingham_wide_area_conditions\|Bellingham Wide Area Condition]] (to the north and south of Bellingham Bay)
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	* Adaptive and Inclusive Recreation of Whatcom County ([[https://airowproject.com/\|AIROW]]) held its first adaptive paddling event on June 30, 2019 with 29 participants. Watch for more to come.		* Adaptive and Inclusive Recreation of Whatcom County ([[https://airowproject.com/\|AIROW]]) held its first adaptive paddling event on June 30, 2019 with 29 participants. Watch for more to come.
-	* [[technique:adaptive:adaptive_paddling\|Resources]]	+	* [[:technique:adaptive:adaptive_paddling\|Resources]]

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Bellingham Bay Downwind Videos

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sat, 22 Nov 2025 11:20:52 +0000

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	Wilson & Ana More Fast Footage From 2023		Wilson & Ana More Fast Footage From 2023

Bellingham Bay Downwinding

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	* Once in a blue moon Bellingham Bay may get strong enough wind swell to create some shore surf, but it is rare. South winds can sometimes also build a little bit of shore waves at the northern beaches in the Bay.		* Once in a blue moon Bellingham Bay may get strong enough wind swell to create some shore surf, but it is rare. South winds can sometimes also build a little bit of shore waves at the northern beaches in the Bay.
-	* There are a few fairly dedicated board surfers who seem to find more frequent opportunities at [[:birch_bay#surfing\|Birch Bay]]. And if you want to start to practice getting in and out of shore break, Birch Bay can be one place to start that more frequently has a bit of shore break, but is almost always just moderate.	+	* There are a few fairly dedicated board surfers who seem to find more frequent opportunities at [[:birch_bay#surfing\|Birch Bay]]. And if you want to start to practice getting in and out through shore break, Birch Bay can be one place to start that more frequently has a bit of shore break, but is almost always just quite moderate in comparison to places around the world that employ surf lifesavers.
	* [[https://youtu.be/XmEBifLrTIU\|2016 Surf at Marine Park Video]]		* [[https://youtu.be/XmEBifLrTIU\|2016 Surf at Marine Park Video]]
	* Boat Wakes		* Boat Wakes

Bellingham Bay Sunset

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Bellingham Local Conditions

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-	\|0.07 - 0.08 \|25 - 30 mph wind \|	+	\|0.07 - 0.10 \|25 - 30 mph wind \|
	\|0.11 - 0.12 \|30+ mph wind \|		\|0.11 - 0.12 \|30+ mph wind \|
	\|Larger numbers can occasionally mean a squall is on the way which usually\|intially kills the wind then can bring sudden high wind as the squall passes through.\|		\|Larger numbers can occasionally mean a squall is on the way which usually\|intially kills the wind then can bring sudden high wind as the squall passes through.\|

Bellingham Marine Paddling

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-	This page is intended to address paddling options that are not specifically good for [[:bellingham_bay_downwinders\|downwinding]] although as they are ocean based with many significant tidal currents they all contain the possibility of vastly varied and potentially very difficult paddling conditions - so [[:bellingham_local_conditions\|weather forecasts, web cams, on water conditions]] and local knowledge should be carefully consulted pre-outing.	+	This page is intended to address paddling options that are not specifically good for [[:bellingham_bay_downwinders\|downwinding]] although as they are ocean based with many significant tidal currents they all contain the possibility of vastly varied and potentially very difficult paddling conditions - so [[:bellingham_local_conditions\|weather forecasts, web cams, on water conditions]] and [[:local\|local knowledge]] should be carefully consulted pre-outing.

	* Whatcom Association of Kayak Enthusiasts (WAKE) [[https://wakekayak.org/trip-reports/\|Trip Reports]]		* Whatcom Association of Kayak Enthusiasts (WAKE) [[https://wakekayak.org/trip-reports/\|Trip Reports]]

Bellingham Repair

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 30 Nov 2025 15:41:07 +0000

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	* Typically you can get the formula for mixing the matching color of your surfski or OC model and the original kind of paint from your boat's maker.		* Typically you can get the formula for mixing the matching color of your surfski or OC model and the original kind of paint from your boat's maker.
	* Wesco Auto Body on Kentucky does paint matching. Cost (circa 2023) $135 per pint. They do the paint matches for Sterling Kayaks.		* Wesco Auto Body on Kentucky does paint matching. Cost (circa 2023) $135 per pint. They do the paint matches for Sterling Kayaks.
		+	* [[:paint_matching_bellingham\|Discussion 2025]]
		+
	==== Options Farther Away From Bellingham ====		==== Options Farther Away From Bellingham ====

bellingham_water_trails_map

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Bellingham and Nearby Paddling Conditions

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	* [[https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/noaatidepredictions.html?id=9449424\|NOAA Cherry Point Tides]]		* [[https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/noaatidepredictions.html?id=9449424\|NOAA Cherry Point Tides]]
	* [[https://seatemperature.info/birch-bay-water-temperature.html\|Birch Bay Water Temperature Today]]		* [[https://seatemperature.info/birch-bay-water-temperature.html\|Birch Bay Water Temperature Today]]
		+	* [[https://tempestwx.com/map/169046/48.9021/-122.7745/12\|Tempest Weather Stations]]
	* [[:tidalrace:ambleside\|Ambleside (Vancouver, BC) Surf Laps ]]		* [[:tidalrace:ambleside\|Ambleside (Vancouver, BC) Surf Laps ]]
	* [[https://www.ventusky.com/?p=49.290;-123.128;10&l=wind-10m&t=20200517/0200\|Ventusky Ambleside]]		* [[https://www.ventusky.com/?p=49.290;-123.128;10&l=wind-10m&t=20200517/0200\|Ventusky Ambleside]]

Where Bellingham's Surfskis Came From

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-	Duncan Howat - see also [[:stories:mammas_do_not\|]]	+	Duncan Howat (once upon a time rode with Evel Knievel) - see also [[:stories:mammas_do_not\|]]

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Bermuda Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:28 +0000

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	* [[https://surfskiracing.org/2011/08/a-long-story-blackburn-2011-by-s-s-weyers/\|Bermuda Paddler Race Report]] (Saffa living in Bermuda which includes some information about Bermuda paddling)		* [[https://surfskiracing.org/2011/08/a-long-story-blackburn-2011-by-s-s-weyers/\|Bermuda Paddler Race Report]] (Saffa living in Bermuda which includes some information about Bermuda paddling)
	* [[https://www.epickayaks.com/post/paddling-bermuda\|Nate Humberston Report on Circumnavigation with a Surfski]]		* [[https://www.epickayaks.com/post/paddling-bermuda\|Nate Humberston Report on Circumnavigation with a Surfski]]
		+	* [[https://surfski.info/forum/8-east-coast/2788-bermuda.html\|Surfski.info Brief Description of Paddling in Bermuda]]
	* …		* …

Robin Mousley's Favorite Paddle (posted on Quora)

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:28 +0000

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	+	[[https://www.quora.com/profile/Rob-Mousley\|Rob Mousley]], 16 years experience with ocean kayaking on surfskis.
	+
	+	[[https://www.quora.com/What-would-be-your-best-worst-kayaking-experiences/answer/Rob-Mousley\|Answered Jan 4, 2018]]
	+
	+	My best paddle was the 2007 Surfski World Cup in Durban, South Africa.
	+
	+	Coming from Cape Town, where we seldom have to go through big surf, Durban had always been a challenging place for me to race. I’d broken a boat the year before, and had injured myself quite badly in surf a year before that.
	+
	+	As we lined up for the start of the race at Amanzimtoti Beach - one of the biggest surfski races ever at the time, with athletes present from all over the world - the conditions looked extreme.
	+
	+	A 30kt SW buster was sweeping up the coast, kicking up a good sized wind-swell. At the same time a 2–3m ocean swell was running at a slightly different angle. The wind swell was slightly offshore; the ocean swell slightly onshore.
	+
	+	The start siren sounded and we were off… I negotiated the surf without a problem, some unlikely paddlers being smacked off their skis to my left. Reaching the turn buoy, I headed left towards Durban city.
	+
	+	I’d been told about how to ride the Durban swells in such conditions - the ocean swells are too big and too fast to catch, so you have to take off on the smaller, slower wind-swells, get speed up and then turn onto the ocean swells…
	+
	+	For the first 30min of the race, I was nervous as hell and played it very conservatively. And then… disaster. I had missed a wind-swell, which meant that I wallowed back off the crest - and was moving slowly, when I realised that an ocean swell to my right, a huge wave, was breaking and I wasn’t moving fast enough either to maneuver out of the way, or to catch it. Instead, it was going to catch me!
	+
	+	So I turned towards it and attempted to paddle up the face. I nearly made it - but before cresting the wave, my ski stopped and started going backwards. I prepared to meet my doom… but the wave gently scooped me off the ski without any violence and I simply found myself in the water next to the ski and… revelation… the water was warm!
	+
	+	Part of what makes paddling dangerous in Cape Town where I live, is that the water is cold and hypothermia is a constant risk. But now, I suddenly realised that I was in tropical waters - there was no possibility that I’d die in this lovely warm, friendly water - at least from hypothermia!
	+
	+	I remounted with renewed confidence, turned the the ski downwind and paddled with a completely differently attitude. Gone was the tentative dabbling, instead I was taking vigorous strokes, accelerating onto the wind-swell, turning aggressively onto the massive ocean swells, swooping down the faces in clouds of spray, whooping with exhilaration… And I found I was overtaking people - even paddlers who would normally be well ahead of me in a race.
	+
	+	A slightly sobering moment came when I found myself a little too close to a reef just before Durban Harbor, but most of the rest of the race was a smashing, spray filled surf-fest…
	+

Bellingham Bay Launches South to North

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Mon, 15 Dec 2025 14:37:24 +0000

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	* [[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Zuanich+Point+Park/@48.7554143,-122.5018538,16z/data=!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x0:0xc1569adaedf5ba75!2sSqualicum+Beach+Park!8m2!3d48.7628974!4d-122.5130762!3m4!1s0x5485a3a8e9a875d7:0x5c4dab7833811406!8m2!3d48.7542967!4d-122.500155\|Bellingham Marina (map) ]]protected entry/exit at breakwater by Zuanich Point Park. You can launch/take out at the pier just east of the park or at the boat ramp by the parking lot on the north side of Anthony's Restaurant. There are 2 boat rinse faucets with hoses at the north end of the parking lot close to the street.		* [[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Zuanich+Point+Park/@48.7554143,-122.5018538,16z/data=!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x0:0xc1569adaedf5ba75!2sSqualicum+Beach+Park!8m2!3d48.7628974!4d-122.5130762!3m4!1s0x5485a3a8e9a875d7:0x5c4dab7833811406!8m2!3d48.7542967!4d-122.500155\|Bellingham Marina (map) ]]protected entry/exit at breakwater by Zuanich Point Park. You can launch/take out at the pier just east of the park or at the boat ramp by the parking lot on the north side of Anthony's Restaurant. There are 2 boat rinse faucets with hoses at the north end of the parking lot close to the street.
-	* [[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Squalicum+Beach+Park/@48.7628974,-122.5130762,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xc1569adaedf5ba75!8m2!3d48.7628974!4d-122.5130762\|Squalicum Beach (map) ]]limited parking. There used to be concrete slabs lining the right entry shore and up to about 10 yds into the right edge of the water, but the city cleaned them all out in 2022. There is one large rock about 30-40 yds out from the right shore that is well above water level at low tide and disappears but can be lurking at medium tide levels - you need to become familiar with that rock before you paddle here in rough conditions - just take a look at lower tide and you can get a good idea about where to land. After rains, strong south winds can push logs into this beach and landing area that may have to be dodged. [[https://youtu.be/H3eICVw3kuQ\|Landing at Squalicum Video]]	+	* [[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Squalicum+Beach+Park/@48.7628974,-122.5130762,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xc1569adaedf5ba75!8m2!3d48.7628974!4d-122.5130762\|Squalicum Beach (map) ]]limited parking. There used to be concrete slabs lining the right entry shore and up to about 10 yds into the right edge of the water, but the city cleaned them all out in 2022. There is one large rock about 30-40 yds out from the right shore that is well above water level at low tide and disappears but can be lurking at medium tide levels - you need to become familiar with that rock before you paddle here in rough conditions - just take a look at lower tide and you can get a good idea about where to land. After rains, strong south winds can push logs into this beach and landing area that may have to be dodged. [[https://youtu.be/H3eICVw3kuQ\|Landing at Squalicum Video]] (you can see the rock that needs to be avoided during landings at medium to lower tide levels)
	* At low tide you still have to watch a rock or 2 close to the east end of the landing beach.		* At low tide you still have to watch a rock or 2 close to the east end of the landing beach.
	* {{:locales:bellingham:sqaulrock.jpeg?direct&300x169\|sqaulrock.jpeg}}		* {{:locales:bellingham:sqaulrock.jpeg?direct&300x169\|sqaulrock.jpeg}}

Orcas in Bellingham Bay 2024 #1

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:28 +0000

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	David Scherrer \\		David Scherrer \\
-	Mar 15 #35243	+	Mar 15 #35243

	Spotted in Bellingham Bay within the last 24hrs. Perhaps might see one during the Rough Water event!		Spotted in Bellingham Bay within the last 24hrs. Perhaps might see one during the Rough Water event!
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	Reivers Dustin \\		Reivers Dustin \\
-	Mar 15 #35245	+	Mar 15 #35245

-	Wasn't there a sighting around this time last year? ...some year once upon a time? The dying memory cell is saying it was also related to Peter M. Gawd, this is fun! I can be that old geezer who talks about voting for Truman instead of these other idjits.	+	Wasn't there a sighting around this time last year? …some year once upon a time? The dying memory cell is saying it was also related to Peter M. Gawd, this is fun! I can be that old geezer who talks about voting for Truman instead of these other idjits.

	josh dyck \\		josh dyck \\
-	Mar 15 #35246	+	Mar 15 #35246

	Reivers,		Reivers,

-	Great memory! The day was March 17th, 2023. Nick Kelly and I paddled with them for over 40 min.	+	Great memory! The day was March 17th, 2023. Nick Kelly and I paddled with them for over 40 min.

	Josh		Josh

	Nick Kelly \\		Nick Kelly \\
-	Mar 15 #35247	+	Mar 15 #35247

	Two years in a row that they are in the bay the Friday before the Rough Water race. Put it on your calendars for next year.		Two years in a row that they are in the bay the Friday before the Rough Water race. Put it on your calendars for next year.

	beau whitehead \\		beau whitehead \\
-	Mar 15 #35248	+	Mar 15 #35248

	In 2022 there was a grey whale 50’ off of the CBC the morning of Rough Water.		In 2022 there was a grey whale 50’ off of the CBC the morning of Rough Water.

	Paul Reavley \\		Paul Reavley \\
-	Mar 15 #35250	+	Mar 15 #35250

	"Oracas" = Orcas playing Maracas		"Oracas" = Orcas playing Maracas
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-	Mar 15 #35252	+	Mar 15 #35252

-	Yup...Something I learned south of the border..(and to check my spelling more often!)\\	+	Yup…Something I learned south of the border..(and to check my spelling more often!)\\
	D.		D.

Orcas in Bellingham Bay 2020

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-	Photos (click to enlarge),photographer: [[https://www.rhyslogan.com/\|Rhys Logan]]	+	Photos (click to enlarge),Photographer: [[https://www.rhyslogan.com/\|Rhys Logan]]

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Orcas in Bellingham Bay 2024 #2

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:29 +0000

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	+	**Orcas off Post Point\\
	+	Dan Mayhew ** \\
	+	Apr 7 #35382
	+
	+	Just saw Orcas on the webcam, close to MP!
	+
	+	Jeff Hilburn \\
	+	Apr 7 #35383
	+
	+	Which way are they going?
	+
	+	Dan Mayhew \\
	+	Apr 7 #35384
	+
	+	I saw one going south. Bev is at MP swimming and they saw a mother and baby heading north to Boulevard Park.
	+
	+	beau whitehead \\
	+	Apr 7 #35388
	+
	+	At around 11:15 they were about 1/4 mile NW of Whiskey Rock. I got within about 500’ of them and watched for a few minutes. Honestly, even that far away they looked massive & I felt pretty insignificant.
	+
	+	And it was a really fun downwind home.
	+
	+	Jeff Hilburn \\
	+	Apr 7 #35389
	+
	+	So great to have them visiting Bellingham Bay area. That means the bay is “recovering” and becoming a better place for the top predator to hunt. I only wish the Southern Residents would visit now.

Bellingham (and nearby) Waterway Wild Life

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	* [[:bham_orcas_2024_b\|Orcas 4/7/2024]]		* [[:bham_orcas_2024_b\|Orcas 4/7/2024]]
		+	* [[:pugetsound_rules_orcas_2024\|New Puget Sound Boat/Orca Safe Distance Rules Jan 1, 2025]]
	* …		* …

Birch Bay Surfing and Downwind Laps

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-	Good swell and waves may be farther out in the channel if there is little west component in the wind/waves BUT you really do NOT want to be blown too far into or across the Strait of Georgia toward the San Juans or Vancouver Island whether you are going north or south. You need to be even more sure of your abilities and [[:home#safety\|safety precautions]] (radio, leash, buddy, etc.) if you venture into bigger water that is not clearly aiming you back into the bay. Be aware of any forecast wind direction or strength changes and likewise pay attention to any changes on the water. You can hedge your risk by keeping more inside the bay and catching a level of waves where you can still feel comfortable or you are able to practice stretching your skills while you will clearly be pushed back to the bay shore if you have any trouble. On bigger days with plenty of from the west component in the wind and waves the push back to shore will be a given and your major decisions can be: can you get out (and back in) through the shore break safely and how far can you paddle out against the wind and waves? Far enough to get decent downwind laps or not at all? Significant local wind in the bay can add considerable side wave action on the water as well as daunting wind resistance that makes everything more difficult, particularly getting in and out of the water.	+	Good swell and waves may be farther out in the channel if there is little west component in the wind/waves BUT you really do NOT want to be blown too far into or across the Strait of Georgia toward the San Juans or Vancouver Island whether you are going north or south. You need to be even more sure of your abilities and [[:home#safety\|safety precautions]] (radio, leash, buddy, etc.) if you venture into bigger water that is not clearly aiming you back into the bay. Be aware of any forecast wind direction or strength changes and likewise pay attention to any changes on the water. You can hedge your risk by keeping more inside the bay and catching a level of waves where you can still feel comfortable or you are able to practice stretching your skills while you will clearly be pushed back to the bay shore if you have any trouble. On bigger days with plenty of from the west component in the wind and waves, the push back to shore will be a given and your major decisions can be: can you get out (and back in) through the shore break safely and how far can you paddle out against the wind and waves? Far enough to get decent downwind laps or not at all? Significant local wind in the bay can add considerable side wave action on the water as well as daunting wind resistance that makes everything more difficult, particularly getting in and out of the water.

	Some sort of paddle shoe is highly recommended for walking in and out. The shoreline bottom is mostly shells and small, barnacle encrusted cobbles.		Some sort of paddle shoe is highly recommended for walking in and out. The shoreline bottom is mostly shells and small, barnacle encrusted cobbles.

Re: 8/29 Sat westerlies

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	+	Nicholas Cryder \\
	+	Aug 29 #27511
	+
	+	Just got off the water at birch bay and it was absolutely righteous. Denise, Paul R and myself had it pretty much to ourselves which surprised me. We did run into a guy in a offshore row boat who was also enjoying the big stuff. Made the mistake of paddling bear foot, which ripped up my feet pretty good on that beach. Getting out went great until I realized I loaned out my ski and forgot to adjust the foot board. Doh! Once I got that sorted it was happy fun fun time and surfing the swell was identical to open ocean conditions. Nice big drops, easy to catch and my top speed was 17.6 mph.
	+
	+	Denise Weeks \\
	+	Aug 29 #27517
	+
	+	Yes, if righteous means a mix of what I’ve experienced in Kauai, Deception Pass, and Swell City, then that was it. Not conditions we see in Bellingham Bay very often. Paul’s Birch Bay tea-leaf reading skills finally paid off (yes, Reivers, it’s a drive!). If I were planning a Hawaii race, it would have been a good day to practice getting in and out through shore break. As it was, I had Paul stand there to catch the tip of my boat in case I got rolled. But no, it was a successful landing. Booties highly recommended.
	+
	+	allipp@...
	+
	+	Aug 29 #27518
	+
	+	I'm glad you got in some good runs up there. As I've said before, you don't need a webcam nor a tea leaf reading to ascertain if there are waves there. If it is blowing around 20 mph out of the NW in the Georgia strait and around 12 to 15 mph at Cherry Point, it will be fairly good and worth the drive. Push that to 30 plus in the Strait and 20 plus at Cherry Point and it will be fantastic. No magic voodoo needed, just the numbers.
	+
	+	Eric Grossman \\
	+	Aug 29 #27519
	+
	+	Wildcat up to Governors then DW to Clayton was superFun and closer than Birch-though I love Birch too! Waves were 1-3 ft between 10-12, steep and moving about 9-10 mph, connectable, long rides maybe 2-miles? Footage coming.\\
	+	EG
	+
	+	**8/29 Sat westerlies (Birch Bay Today)\\
	+	Paul Reavley** \\
	+	Aug 29 #27520
	+
	+	Denise and I got to Birch Bay about 9:40 and Nicholas got there a bit later. There was one kite surfer getting on the water at about the same time. The shore break was not big but enough to possibly be a problem if you aren't used to it, still there were lulls when it was easier to get in and out.
	+
	+	This was Denise's first un-flat water outing with her new phat boat and she was rocking it. I initially had a hard time linking waves, but that got easier for me while we were out, possibly due to a change in the swell and wind and some drop in one or both. You could surf waves all the way to the beach and the waves were smaller and easier to catch closer to shore. We were not going out very far at all but still got into fairly substantial swell.
	+
	+	If you follow Alan's guidelines I believe your odds for good waves at Birch Bay are very good. Denise's comment about my tea leaf reading was partially in reference to a previous visit I talked her into when the conditions were less than what Alan recommends. Waves or no, it's nice to get a little variety occasionally anyway...
	+
	+	{{youtube>DJBdCqomyiU}}
	+
	+	Paul
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	Aug 30 #27521
	+
	+	OK
	+
	+	Fine. Allowing for camera distortion, that some genuine BIGS right there. whoa. Even w/o the special tea leaves.
	+

Birch Bay and Shorebreak (something that we get very little practice with in Bellingham) 2015

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	**Birch Bay. Update\\		**Birch Bay. Update\\
-	Lbussinger <lbussinger@...>** \\	+	Lbussinger <lbussinger@…>** \\
-	11/15/15 #18322	+	11/15/15 #18322

	It's rocking up here, but with 3+ shorebreak every three seconds I can't get in the water. I went over once and after about five minutes on shore my fingers were so cold I could barely hold the key to open up the car.		It's rocking up here, but with 3+ shorebreak every three seconds I can't get in the water. I went over once and after about five minutes on shore my fingers were so cold I could barely hold the key to open up the car.
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-	11/15/15 #18325	+	11/15/15 #18325

-	This is something I just never learned to deal with. It would be nicer to learn surf zone when it's warmer. But it's very much a learned thing.	+	This is something I just never learned to deal with. It would be nicer to learn surf zone when it's warmer. But it's very much a learned thing.

-	I got dumped a couple of times at Westport years ago and I remember being exhausted and cold for the rest of the paddle. Then at U.S. Champs at Rodeo Beach I kept hurling myself into the brine getting slapped cold until John Dye held me on the beach until he saw a good launch window. I still don't know what to look for. On the way down for that Champs I knew we had a surf beach. So I stopped on the way down for a practice session on a beach with mild looking break. It was ok, but with no one around for miles I felt like ... weird. Like I was going to hear Rod Serling's voice, something about stuck in the twilight zone - or surf zone.	+	I got dumped a couple of times at Westport years ago and I remember being exhausted and cold for the rest of the paddle. Then at U.S. Champs at Rodeo Beach I kept hurling myself into the brine getting slapped cold until John Dye held me on the beach until he saw a good launch window. I still don't know what to look for. On the way down for that Champs I knew we had a surf beach. So I stopped on the way down for a practice session on a beach with mild looking break. It was ok, but with no one around for miles I felt like … weird. Like I was going to hear Rod Serling's voice, something about stuck in the twilight zone - or surf zone.

	One of these years we need to follow Peter M.'s advice and rent a few of those cabins out at Hoebuck's.		One of these years we need to follow Peter M.'s advice and rent a few of those cabins out at Hoebuck's.
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	lori & beau whitehead \\		lori & beau whitehead \\
-	11/16/15 #18327	+	11/16/15 #18327

-	Hey Larry, thanks for the gloves sir. Not sure they helped, but at least mentally I felt warmer entering the shore break. Alan and I paddled for an hour, did 3 out and back laps out of/into Birch Bay. Good rides were to be had, but with a bit of effort required to get on them. Cheers!	+	Hey Larry, thanks for the gloves sir. Not sure they helped, but at least mentally I felt warmer entering the shore break. Alan and I paddled for an hour, did 3 out and back laps out of/into Birch Bay. Good rides were to be had, but with a bit of effort required to get on them. Cheers!

-	Beau Whitehead\\	+	Beau Whitehead
-	http://paddlesurfnorthwest.com/	+

	Michael Gregory \\		Michael Gregory \\
-	11/16/15 #18329	+	11/16/15 #18329

-	For what it's worth, a few years ago I was getting my you-know-what kicked trying to get out through a shore break. Leeann H. was watching and kindly said "put your ---- feet out". Duh? So when the bow began to rise on the incoming wave I put both feet out as the crest blew through and back in just after it passed, paddling hard toward the next wave, repeating until I was free of the break. Mike.	+	For what it's worth, a few years ago I was getting my you-know-what kicked trying to get out through a shore break. Leeann H. was watching and kindly said "put your —- feet out". Duh? So when the bow began to rise on the incoming wave I put both feet out as the crest blew through and back in just after it passed, paddling hard toward the next wave, repeating until I was free of the break. Mike.

	Reivers Dustin \\		Reivers Dustin \\
-	11/16/15 #18330	+	11/16/15 #18330

-	Joost was saying that's a neat trick for when you come back in through shore break. Feet out quiets the boat when it wants to go hinkie. I assume when you come back in, the idea is to stay on the back of the wave and avoid for all you are worth getting caught by the break.	+	Joost was saying that's a neat trick for when you come back in through shore break. Feet out quiets the boat when it wants to go hinkie. I assume when you come back in, the idea is to stay on the back of the wave and avoid for all you are worth getting caught by the break.

-	There's some great discussion about being in the break. Aerated water will not support floatation. So if you get stuck in the foamy part, your boat will settle down into the water and become very unstable. No primary, no secondary, no nothing. This topic actually became a theory for the Bermuda triangle. They explored the possibility that fixed methane on the ocean bottom became gassified. This mass of bubbles rose to the surface and any ships sank. There was a pretty cool video of the tank tests.	+	There's some great discussion about being in the break. Aerated water will not support floatation. So if you get stuck in the foamy part, your boat will settle down into the water and become very unstable. No primary, no secondary, no nothing. This topic actually became a theory for the Bermuda triangle. They explored the possibility that fixed methane on the ocean bottom became gassified. This mass of bubbles rose to the surface and any ships sank. There was a pretty cool video of the tank tests.

-	Or maybe it was hydrogen and the captains voice got squeaky and everybody died laughing. You guys have seen the video of the hydrogen brewed beer right? Wonder if it makes your farts high pitched. Bucket list item.	+	Or maybe it was hydrogen and the captains voice got squeaky and everybody died laughing. You guys have seen the video of the hydrogen brewed beer right? Wonder if it makes your farts high pitched. Bucket list item.

	rd		rd

	Nicholas Cryder \\		Nicholas Cryder \\
-	11/16/15 #18331	+	11/16/15 #18331

	Andrew Losli wrote a nice peace on dealing with the surf zone in a ski. In conversations with him, he really stresses the importance of picking your surf days and location very carefully to build up your skill set.		Andrew Losli wrote a nice peace on dealing with the surf zone in a ski. In conversations with him, he really stresses the importance of picking your surf days and location very carefully to build up your skill set.

Birch Bay with good wind and waves

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	+	Denise Weeks \\
	+	Apr 11 2021 #29002
	+
	+	You have seen my videos, and you've seen Paul's videos. This is a joint production. This is from yesterday up at Birch Bay.
	+
	+	For those of you who want to add a little variety and challenge to your paddling, I recommend shore break! For those of you working on your technique, let me share my lack of it in these conditions to give you something to chuckle about. For those of you who are safety minded, the best thing about shore break practice is that if you fail, you're still on shore. It's nice to have a buddy, though.
	+
	+	https://youtu.be/mKHICIsc_8o
	+
	+	Toby Cooper \\
	+	Apr 11 #29003
	+
	+	There is a Hollywood contract waiting for you out there somewhere.
	+
	+	Dennis Mowry
	+
	+	Apr 11 #29005
	+
	+	Nice one here. Great effort and videos. Keep them coming.\\
	+	:D'
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger \\
	+	Apr 11 #29006
	+
	+	I know why you’re bragging, you made it out once! I’ve tried it before and never made it out at all. Those breakers come in so fast you don’t have time to get set.
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger
	+

bkcc_2007

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	+
	+	The BKCC meeting….. \\
	+	Larry Goolsby\\
	+	01/10/07 #2357
	+
	+	If you don't know what BKCC stands for, that's because you didn't bother showing up for the meeting. This was the 'once in a blue moon' meeting of the Bellingham Kayak and Canoe Club and in attendence was Reivers, Larry B., Dale, David S., Susan B. and me. After Reivers and I got done fighting over who got to sit next to Susan, we started the meeting. We took a roll call and noticed that there was nobody in attendence from Sudden Valley (go figure?). So the first topic up for vote was whether or not Sudden Valley should be able to incorporate and become their own little city. We unamoniously voted yes as long as it was in Alabama. We also agreed that the name should be changed to Suddenly Valley since YOU BASTARDS SUDDENLY FORGET HOW TO DRIVE WHENEVER IT SNOWS! Please don't think that I am bitter because of the low attendence.
	+
	+	The second item up for vote was for new officers and while the rest of the group was naming possible candidates, I crawled under the table looking for just one more pretzel (service was a tad slow) and when I sat back in my chair, I discovered that I had been nominated and elected president in those 3 seconds that my back was turned. I quickly named Reivers as my vice prez and convinced him of his value to the office with a threat of using his beer glass as a urinal if he didn't agree. The reward for becoming prez was being awarded underwear that formerly belonged to David S. that had the BKCC emblem on one side and yellow stains on the other. Susan wanted to outfit me (another fantasy of mine) with a new uniform but the voting membership shipwrecked her motion before it landed on the table.
	+
	+	Our next item up for discussion was a boathouse. Yes, a boathouse. Half the table wanted it in Fairhaven and half the table wanted it at Bloedel-Donovan. As your new president, I said "What the Hell, why don't we go for both?" I was on my fourth beer and anything was now possible. In reality, why don't we shoot for both? Fairhaven Boatworks will loose their lease in 2010 and we could use a kayak/outrigger/surfski facility on that corner of the bay.
	+
	+	The waterfront is going through some changes with the demise of Georgia-Pacific and maybe we can get together and become one voice (with the assistance of WAKE) for gaining a recreational human powered watercraft facility. Meanwhile, maybe we could also get behind Duncan Howat for creating a boathouse at Bloedel. If we join forces with the native Americans (they have some federal funding) and we supply some private funding, we can turn their Cyclone fence canoe cage into a covered facility that we could all use. I could have a boat and paddle reside at both boathouses. Then I wouldn't need to drive my gas guzzling Stratolounger to the water each day and instead, I could purchase a new little hybrid Moped and zip back and forth between Fairhaven and Lake Whatcom. I could wear a sleeveless shirt that emphasized my physique and one of those half helmets that resembled a reject from a bowling ball factory. I would be a chick magnet. Women would look at me like I was chocolate. So moving forward with this boathouse thing, I decided that the color of the boathouse is to be pink and anyone that disagrees with this notion CAN SHOW UP AT OUR APRIL MEETING AND EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS.\\
	+	See you there….\\
	+	Larry G.
	+
	+	**Re: Jerico Race\\
	+	Larry Goolsby** \\
	+	01/15/07 #2384
	+
	+	I'm thinking about doing it but we'll see what the weather holds. My anorexia is in remission so my butt has doubled in size since Christmas. Gotta start exercising some kind of control….\\
	+	LG
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	01/16/07 #2385
	+
	+	This is suspicious in light of your being elected Presidente'. Didn't they all become bigger butts once they were elected? I think we should have a Queen as our ruler. There is such a wonderfulselection, don't you agree? Let's see, there's Susan, Debbie, Heather, the Tracies', … so many!
	+
	+	We could really shatter the dominant paradigm. uh. But wait, I'mone of them paradigms. A Queen would have no use for a VP, wouldshe?
	+
	+	Hey Treas, - Does my butt look big in this office?
	+
	+	argh.
	+
	+	Re: Jerico Race \\
	+	Larry Bussinger <lbussing@…> \\
	+	01/16/07 #2386
	+
	+	As your loyal subject, I am happy to report that the office has no noticable effect on you being a butt. Treas.
	+
	+	name change \\
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	01/18/07 #2390
	+
	+	I wonder if we could jazz up our club if we changed names. That was the funnest part of forming the original club. We wrangled with each other over monikers like; "Bellingham Bay Boat Bunch", "Old Guys in Spandex", and "Whatcom, Me Worry?". Actually, I think the other guys picked a name when I took a pee break. But I thought up the best names. See, for instance, if the officers continue the present expansion in our nether regions we could call the club "Paddle-Arse". I suppose that wouldn't help the membership growth comittee much. But then, if you can't add members, just expand the members you got.
	+
	+	By the way, is there any members besides the officers? I guess it's time for another Poll. Well, here's the thing. Sound Rowers has dominated the recreational racer galaxy by being "inclusionary". (Now that I hold political office, new-age-buzzword-jargon are me.) So regardless of all the charming enthusiasm for pink boathouses, the club's agenda is real fuzzy and no one is sitting around waiting to do hard work that suits a small slice of the community. There is a hell of a lot of consensus building to do.
	+
	+	There. gimme another puff of that stuff. eeeahoo, Baby!
	+
	+	Re: name change \\
	+	Daryl Remmler <darylremmler@…>\\
	+	01/18/07 #2391
	+
	+	Hi Reivers,
	+
	+	You guys could check with your local Coast Guard. I bet they've got some good names for your club!\\
	+	\\
	+	On a more serious note, I think club growth and longevity means getting the kids involved. In the paddling world that means including Sprint. Talk to Seattle or Gig Harbor. They both have tons of kids on the water now.\\
	+	\\
	+	You guys could set-up a killer 1000 M course somewhere near town. A well organised regatta would have no trouble attracting 200 racers (Vancouver to Gig Harbor). Now they even have 200 M races, so guys like me who are totally out of shape can still make it to the finish line!\\
	+	\\
	+	Mike has been to the Ted Houk Regatta in Seattle. I'm sure he has some input on this. If you build it they will come.\\
	+	\\
	+	Daryl
	+
	+	**Re: name change\\
	+	Larry Goolsby** \\
	+	01/19/07 #2392
	+
	+	Reivers (and everyone else), Since we were grounded by the past weather conditions (at least I was), I had some time to think about this club thing. In order for this club to survive and thrive, we need to focus on a sustainable mission. A boathouse at this time would not be sustainable. A lot of the paddlers live in proximity of the water so they would just as soon take their boat home with them. We would have to go fetch our boats before going to an out of town race. Most of us paddle both fresh and salt water weekly in the summmer months and would not use the boathouse. A sustainable mission could be promotion of the sport: like club boats, sponsoring races and holding regattas. Bellingham has the biggest kayak community in the US but a tiny flatwater racing community (K-1 and K-2 paddlers).
	+
	+	Just imagine what would happen if we took these kayak paddlers and turned them into K-1 racers. We could hold a regatta on Lake Padden sponsored by BKCC. The race would start with 40 K-1's lined up like a picket fence after a wind storm. When the starting gun went off, about half would start paddling and the other half would suddenly realize that they left their gps, compass, or some other navigation device back in their car. The half that did start race would stop about 100 feet off the line to discuss their destination and itinerary. As they would paddle past the swimming area, they would pull off for a picnic lunch. After lunch, they would continue on racing towards the finish line and the winner would most likely be the person that dropped the most amount of weight off at the picnic area. Do you see where I am going with this? Whatever mission we choose, we need to do it in baby steps so that this club can survive. What about doubles racing? We all love to do it but we don't have many doubles. What if BKCC had a membership and took in dues and we put the money towards more double outriggers and skis? We could also purchase a trailer in order to haul these long watercraft and use the trailer for going to faraway races. We could sponsor the A to B race by paying for a friggin' bus to haul all of us over to Anacortes instead of me hauling your sorry asses over there and then having to skip the dinner while I travel back to get my truck. Just some ideas that have been bouncing around in my head.
	+
	+	Larry G.
	+
	+	**Re: name change\\
	+	Michael Gregory** \\
	+	01/19/07 #2395
	+
	+	Larry and Co.
	+
	+	You guys would not believe the size of the Flatwater Racing Clubs just a short distance from us In BC, Seattle, and Tacoma - like massive! Show up at their Regattas (Races) and be amazed at the numbers. Kids, adolescents, adults, and geezers too. K boats lined up for fifty yards or more along the shoreline. Courses of 200, 500, and 1000 meters; for K1,K2, and a few K4's. Pretty exciting stuff!
	+
	+	We're not talking about something for just us, but for a big community of paddlers. Maybe not a boathouse just yet but maybe in a few years. In the meantime there are strong Flatwater paddling groups very nearby who would be way enthusiastic about talking with us, sharing resources, and assisting with getting things "sustainable".
	+
	+	I challenge you guys to come to a Regatta this summer and check it out, soo fun. National Championships will be held at Green Lake in Seattle this summer!
	+
	+	All the Best, Mike.
	+
	+	\\
	+	**Re: name change\\
	+	Dale McKinnon** \\
	+	01/20/07 #2397
	+
	+	K1 and K2 is entirely compatible with flat-water rowing needs. 1000m sprints…. Padden Lake sounds perfect. Very similar to Green Lake. Far more protection than Lake Whatcom from winds…. Where's Duncan's input on this?\\
	+	I'm in CA enjoying the sunshine but realizing that as a native San Franciscan-become-a -Northwesterner that 60 degrees has become what I consider as "too warm." Good heavens!\\
	+	Dale
	+
	+	**Re: name change\\
	+	Daryl Remmler <darylremmler@…>** \\
	+	01/20/07 #2398
	+
	+	Hello all,
	+
	+	I know that at Sprint Nationals in Canada they have the last day dedicated to Masters racing (Canmas). As there are so many racers (1200 +), they limit it to 500 M events only. It's awesome. I went last year, and raced in 8 events in one day (K1, K2, K4, C4 Mixed events, and War canoe). It was a ton of fun. It's all done in 5 or 10 year age groups.\\
	+	\\
	+	I believe they have started the same format in the US with USMAS on the last day, but I'm not certain. Don would know for sure about this. The Bellingham gang should look at this for several reasons.\\
	+	\\
	+	1. It's a great way to get the whole family out to events (Max is 3 and he paddles in the back of a K2 now).\\
	+	2. It's a great way to get government funding for a club, as Sprint is an Olympic discipline.\\
	+	3. It's great cross-training from your ski. Good for speed work, balance, technique, etc.\\
	+	4. Lots of local events. Seattle has the Ted Houk Regatta, and every second year they host Nationals.\\
	+	5. The youth love it because it's social. They spend lots of time on shore "hanging out"with their friends. There are lots of team boats (K2, K4, C2, C4, War Canoe), which the youth thrive on. Team boats take away a ton of pressure when you are starting out.\\
	+	\\
	+	A gang from Bellingham shoud sign up for the Ted Houk race in early June so you can check out this aspect of paddling more closely, and see if it fits the long term agenda of the Bellingham club. Masters Sprint paddling is huge in the East, and I really hope to see it succeed out here.\\
	+	\\
	+	Daryl
	+
	+	\\
	+	**Paddle Club\\
	+	Vince Darwood <Futura@…>** \\
	+	01/20/07 #2399
	+
	+	Hey,\\
	+	You guys have a lot of great ideas. Between the surfskis and the K1s there is a lot of prospective participants in all ages and paddlecrafts. That way you have enough combined members for an impact and have already made up two or three committees.
	+
	+	Boat House committee\\
	+	Race Committee. K1 and others\\
	+	Van or Trailer aquisition
	+
	+	Funding may be tough at first but some paddle clubs are hundres of years old. Projects come in one at a time and build on themselfs. Maybe you could get a jumpstart with a van or trailer donation. I can't believe how many old kayak trailers there are that can be had for less than $1000. They are usually pretty beat up but certainly restoreable.
	+
	+	Everyone brings something to the table. Fifty K1's and fifty surfskis make a club have twice as many. Your club recognition provides clout with the municipalities a little bigger budget and volunteer base to do some significant projects.
	+
	+	The boat house will inspire casual paddlers to participate more, introduce new paddlers, give recognition to the community, provide a bulliten board, schedule tours and classes, be a meeting place to pick-up drop off and repair. Someday the boat house could become a shower, locker room , weight room, washing rack and meeting area. (jacuzzi, ball room, bowling alley, cigar room, hotel and such)
	+
	+	There may not be enough serious paddles to fill it up a rack, as they traval a lot, but, it would always be there for you when you need it. Older and younger paddlers and a lot of women who have a hard time loading and unloading paddle more often at a club. Maybe start with an expandable plan and use the space for something other than boats (i.e. weight bench). Besides, it might be a nice place to put your guest boat.
	+
	+	I think of the K1 clubs and other clubs in Berkeley, Newport Beach, and others around the country that have kept nice places for years.
	+
	+	I've never heard of any specific surfski clubs except for NorCals Wave Chaser except thay include OC. There is other sea kayak clubs that just survive on a newletter and monthly meetings in local rooms and tours.
	+
	+	I don't live in WA and probably can't participate in a club there but would certainly be proud to see and help something develop.
	+
	+	Your Mission Statement could include any and all paddlecraft and the club may provide some bylaws to operate effectivly. The individual commettees are where get things done.
	+
	+	I don't recomend the Old Guys in Spandix as a name though.
	+
	+	Sincerely,
	+
	+	FUTURA Vince
	+
	+	**A tangled web we weave…..\\
	+	Larry Goolsby** \\
	+	01/21/07 #2403
	+
	+	Reivers (the vice prez) and I headed out of Marine park for Whiskey Rock today at 1 pm. Kathleen P. had sent us a couple of pink toques so we left the shore with matching pink hats. We chatted about this club thing on our way south as the wind increased from almost nothing. So far, there has been very little feedback about reviving the club except for encouragement from boat dealers. I can understand their enthusiasim but I have been aware of the silence from the majority of members. Most of us are already members of Soundrowers and will continue on that path. They do a great job of supporting races and their members include rowers, kayakers, flatwater racers, surfskiers, and canoeists. However, what they don't do is buy boats to encourage the sport.
	+
	+	The problem with BKCC being open to everyone that paddles is that the majority will rule on how the money is spent and if you are a minority and don't get what you want, you probably won't sign on for another year. So in order for this club to live, we either have to model ourselves like Soundrowers (don't buy boats) or limit our clientele to one or two types of racers. We have very few flatwater racers here so what if we cater to surfskiers and outriggers? We could change the name of the club to Bellingham Outrigger and Surfski organization or BOSO for short. For a small annual fee, you could be a BOSO. We could start out raising funds and buy both a double ski and a double outrigger so we could have more BOSOs on the lake on Wednesday nights. Otherwise, what is the use of reviving the club if we are going to become just like Soundrowers?
	+
	+	Anyway, the wind was blowing close to 20 mph by the time we reached Whiskey Rock and the waves were building. It was the most enjoyable and effortless paddle back to Marine Park. Rides galore and long ones too. We beached our boats and came struttin' into the park wearing our pink toques. Just two boys in pink hats having fun. God bless America…..\\
	+	Larry G.
	+
	+	Erik Borgnes \\
	+	01/21/07 #2404
	+
	+	Larry et al,
	+
	+	Take a look at the Wenatchee canoe and kayak club if you want a good example of something that works well. They have about 100 members or so. I can't remember what dues were but they are pretty minimal. The club has authority over the boathouse on the river. They don't own it, though. There are about 60 boats in the boat house. If you keep a boat there, you pay an extra $60 a year or something like that. The officers of the club buy a new or used boat for club use about every year or two. I think they had a fleet of about 5 surfskis (stable futura 2's, a Blade, a double), maybe 3 intermediate level sculls, a couple of canoes, maybe 4 kayaks of various design - but all stable. Boat buying choices were easy as every time a club boat was used, it was signed out. When it was new boat buying time, they would buy more of whatever type of craft was most popular, and they pretty much only bought novice and intermediate boats. But, even if you do it by vote, and 60 of 100 members want the kind with the penguin flippers underneath? What's the big deal if it gets used alot?
	+
	+	The advantages of being a member there, are that you've got a place to keep a boat, paddle, gear, so you don't have to lug it around. This makes possible riding your bike there, go for a paddle, then riding home, or changing plans mid-day and still being able to paddle if your stuff is there. After your paddle, you have a dry place to change out of your wet clothes.
	+
	+	Having club boats means that it's easy to introduce novice paddlers to the sport, or for non boat-owner members to introduce other novices to the club. It's not so much that getting novices into the club is the goal, but if the parents paddle, then their kids might take an interest which is great for the other kids in the club. It's tough to get a novice to buy a boat, but if there is a boat for them to use for even 1 hr a week, they can get hooked and then buy a boat for themselves. Kids, teens, that are broke can have something to paddle as it's tough for them to convince their parents to lay out a couple thousand for somethng they've never tried before. Or, if you've got a guest from out of town that wants to go for a paddle, you've got a super stable club boat to put them in. I rarely ever made use of the Wenatchee club boats, but they got used more than any other boats in that club house.
	+
	+	A boat house becomes a meeting place to get together for a paddle, to help novices a bit with safety or technique issues, to post messages, etc.
	+
	+	When you are a club with elected or by-default officers, then the folks like the USCG, the city planner, local governing bodies are more likely to include you as you are a defined group. In Wenatchee, the club got the city to build them a dock. They got engineers to maintain the building gratis. The city was planning to build them a new boat house a few years ago and include the club interests in the waterfront development - when that waterfront finally does get changed.
	+
	+	Most of the members wouldn't have to be concerned with issues of whether or not to include ICF K1, OC, rowing shells, etc. for sub-groups of the club. The folks that are interested in starting those offshoots will take care of that.
	+
	+	But, for you 40- and 50-something year old guys that just like to do your own thing - what's in it for you? Just knowing that you're giving the adults and kids in the community a place to start, kind of like a welcome mat, should be enough. If you've got kids of your own, it will be easier to get your kid interested in paddling if there are other kids around. And in 10 years when you guys are a bit less spry and your balance isn't so average anymore because of all that hair and wax in your ears, those kids will be plucking your butt out of the water from their own ski and seeing to it that you don't drown.
	+
	+	How about the "Sea lyin's" for a name.
	+
	+	Erik
	+
	+	**Wenatchee club boathouse\\
	+	hilburnjjcl** \\
	+	01/21/07 #2405
	+
	+	I had the opportunity to see the Wenatchee boathouse a few years ago and because of it, I actually thought about trying to get a job there. Just the site of seeing all those boats in one neat, dry place gave me goosebumps. I'm all for trying to revive a club if we've done our homework and have a really good shot at building a storage facility. My boys will be paddling in a couple of years and I'd love to have a facility where we could borrow some beginner surfskis, outriggers,etc… I've had to borrow boats from Peter M. when I wanted to take a friend out to paddle in the bay.
	+
	+	More feedback and support will come once the big yellow ball appears again in April or so. Right now people are skiing and not thinking too much about paddling. I appreciate all of the hard work Reivers and Larry G. have already put into this site and the idea of revamping a club. I still remember one of my first Wednesday night races when Reivers welcomed me by saying he was glad to see a new "young" guy paddling. Paddling has really improved my quality of life the past 6 years or so. We have something special here in Bellingham…..special guys wearing pink and proud of it!
	+
	+	Hilburn
	+
	+	**Re: A tangled web we weave…..\\
	+	Michael Gregory** \\
	+	01/21/07 #2408
	+
	+	As Erik pointed out we would be in error not to make every effort to include the wider paddling community, water-craft manufacturers as well. That includes the folks on Tupperware, they are often the racers of tomorrow.
	+
	+	Indeed, the Wenatchee Club is an excellent example of how to include the whole of the paddle/rowing community and make it work. The racers there are a small portion of the club, yet they coexist happily with more recreational folks. My recollection is that there were MANY more paddler/rowers that wanted to stick their boats in the boathouse than there were berths for. In fact, the waiting list was like a year or more long! Keep in mind that the membership was much wider than just those who berthed their boats in the boat house. They all paid dues, and the guys with boats in there paid more.
	+
	+	Again, as Erik said, this was a public facility on public land. The membership policed themselves, kept the boat house tidy, and serviced the boats. I should not think that a private venture would be advisable. It appears that the local government is sympathetic to our water-going community and a dialog has been opened. With the paddling season coming up soon it might be a good time to bring the existing groups together; rowers, sea kayakers, outrigger, and surfski. Should not be too difficult to figure out what the various needs are. Then make a preliminary pitch to the city and/or county officials. Bet that Jeff Hegedus would be able to advise us.
	+
	+	Where to locate the facility and how to include the K-boats is yet at issue. In Wenatchee the only paddling site was the Columbia. We have the Bay, Padden, and Lake Whatcom. So, whaddya say, three boat houses? Alright, then we would be THE paddling town, for sure.
	+
	+	Regards, Mike.
	+
	+	**Re: paddling (K- and C- 1,2,4) club motivations\\
	+	Larry Goolsby** \\
	+	01/21/07 #2409
	+
	+	Jeff….Thanks for your posting and support. We have some paddling legends in this community but getting these guys organized is a bitch. I have to confess that I have the same disease that the lot of them have: "I jus' wanna have fun". I think the collective thought here is "If it isn't broke, don't fix it".
	+
	+	Why form a club? Good question. We have a great thing going with the cohesiveness of our group, the Wednesday night races, and the San Juans right out in front of us. We are already considered the the top kayaking town in the country and we have more surfskiers than the rest of the country per capita. Like Mike G. said, we could be THE paddling town. We just need to hear you guys voice what it is that you think would make things better. A boathouse is a start but it may not be in the place that we paddle the most. If we are to promote the sport, our boathouse should be at a site that a newbie could use without fear of having to be rescued.
	+
	+	I prefer the Fairhaven area because this is my favorite spot to go to paddle, but I believe that a boathouse is better suited on Lake Padden or Lake Whatcom. For me, Lake Whatcom wins because we can store tandems and K-4's there for the Wednesday night races. So its back to the question of "Why should we do this?" That's easy, we do it for the community, our kids, and our neighbors kids. I was so amazed at the amount of kids that showed up for the Cascade distance race. If we are ever to produce another Greg Barton, we need to start teaching kids to paddle instead of harassing old men that can't climb mountains anymore. In other words, discontinue your membership with the silent majority or we'll never get this thing off the ground.\\
	+	LG
	+
	+	**Re: paddling (K- and C- 1,2,4) club motivations\\
	+	Dale McKinnon** \\
	+	01/22/07 #2410
	+
	+	Ladies/Gents- Your input is needed. Jeff Hegedus and I will be meeting with Dan Stahl of the Port of Bellingham on Wed. to open this discussion and hopefully begin the process of creating a timeline for input, design, location, costs, etc. This is no guarantee that the Port will fall all over its feet to accomodate us, but we need to let them know, in an organized fashion, that there is a critical mass of proponents and we have a voice. It is a pretty powerful voice. How we want to use that voice is in the stew pot right now.\\
	+	\\
	+	The only thing I want to add to this discussion is to echo Eric's contribution: There's more at stake here than generic "flat-earth" attitudes (that everything revolves around me… of which I am occasionally guilty) or maintaining perceived uniqueness in the chop and spray of our home waters. No one will take away the love and freedom of the various paddling disciplines if we become involved in the process of creating something larger and more lasting than our individual needs to revel in Neptune's glory and our ability to play in it. As we get older we can leave a legacy.\\
	+	\\
	+	No idea is too small to be considered. Weigh in, please…. We need more input from those of you that do not often contribute (with Larry and Reivers writing tomes and making us laugh, it can be intimidating).
	+
	+	Dale McKinnon
	+
	+	**Boathouse\\
	+	flypaddle** \\
	+	01/22/07 #2411
	+
	+	Hey gang,
	+
	+	After reading a variety of posts from our friends near and afar, I've decided to add my perspective. Having been involved (meaning, knew what was going on, but didn't actually do anything) with this club since it's inception around 10-12 years ago I think I can add some perspective that hasn't been brought up yet. Initially Mickey B, David S, Reivers, Larry B, and myself got together because Mickey had the desire to get a sprint club off the ground on Lk. Padden. After a variety of meetings the process became stalled, little issues such as Lk Padden not allowing gas-powered motors for escort or safety boats, fundraising for a boathouse, who's going to coach the kids,… etc. kept a bunch of us from pursuing it any further.
	+
	+	The issue of having a flatwater club has come up lately, but is this concept actually realistic for our area? On any given Wednesday niter, how many of the 50-60 participants are in sprint boats (other than me)? Fact is if they're such a great boat for this area, everyone would be paddling them. It takes many years to become proficient in those boats, and after that, most people are still not going to paddle them on the bay, or on Lk. Whatcom. There is a reason why the majority of boats out there are either surfski's, and OC's. It's because their fun and there is a freedom of paddling any body of water you want to. I personnally enjoy K-1's, and the concept of having a flatwater club is great if…we have the right location for it, and in Bellingham, Lk Padden, or perhaps Lk Samish are the only places that would work.
	+
	+	Here in Bellingham we have a great venue in the Wednesday niter which many people look forward to on a weekly basis. I think if we could piggyback on that race, by having a boathouse within Bloedel Donovan Park, that would get us the most bang for our buck in terms of getting people on the water. This park has it all, bathrooms, boatlaunch, lawn area, and most importantly, it's fairly centeralized within Bellingham.
	+
	+	At this point, all we need is a place to store boats that the club currently has, and wants to get. Once a boat storage facility is in place, it can go in any direction the members want. Essentially, I think a club will be more successful catering to people who have a certain desire (such as boat storage), then to cater to people who may or may not exist.
	+
	+	Respectfully,
	+
	+	Joost
	+
	+	**Club location\\
	+	Morris Arthur <marthur@…>** \\
	+	01/22/07 #2412
	+
	+	I am willing to support "the big picture". But as soon as folks start talking about boats and boathouses, location must be considered. … and location will inherently identify the focus of some sort of club.\\
	+	\\
	+	We don't have just one paddling launch. In the last three months, I have paddled Lake Whatcom, Lake Samish, Lake Padden, and Bellingham Bay– Fairhaven, Squalicum, and Larrabee. Come Spring, I'll be heading out to the Nooksack….\\
	+	\\
	+	Where are we talking about?\\
	+	\\
	+	Morris
	+
	+	**Re: Boathouse\\
	+	Larry Bussinger <lbussing@…>** \\
	+	01/22/07 #2413
	+
	+	Joost jogged my memory. Lake Whatcom already has a fenced area that is available to paddlers. It was chained with multiple padlocks with a key to each user. Until I talked the Native Americans into using it (they used to leave their boats on the ground beside it) no kayakers have used it in the twenty plus years I've been paddling. I think that is because we like to paddle on the lake and the bay; we just leave the boats on top of the car. Its not the best security in the world, but I don't know of an vandalism. If we have such an area and no one uses it, would a boat house fair better? I see K-1 club boats or rowing shells needing a boat house but the K-1's need it at Padden and the rowing shells already have one at Whatcom. …and we don't have many of either. We even have Fairhaven Boat works, but only the heavy row boats and some kayaks use it.
	+
	+	Maybe we should just charge dues until we have enough money to buy some more "club" boats. This would tell us if we have enough people who would support a boathouse and for whom it would service. If the paddling communitee won't support the boats, they certainly won't support the boathouse. $50/yr times 100 members would buy a few good boats, with no overhead.\\
	+	Larry B
	+
	+	**The Future\\
	+	Jeff Hegedus <jhegedus@…>** \\
	+	01/22/07 #2414
	+
	+	Imagine the combined resources of WAKE, Sound Rowers, Whatcom Paddlers, Tribes, Western Washington University, Bellingham Yacht Club and Washingtom Water Trails Association joining in affiliation to promote and support recreational and competitive small craft usage of the Bellingham Bay waterfront and marine waters. Imagine a Small Craft Center on the Fairhaven waterfront, providing storage for sea kayaks, rowing vessels, war canoes, surfskis, ocean canoes, and sailing dinghys. Outside, the center has two chase boats, and storage for trailers. There is a classroom and repair shop, ample parking for visitors, locker rooms with showers, a covered barbecue area, and nice access to the water. The center is located along a greenway, with curious interested people strolling past enjoying the color and hubbub. Lasers, 420's and 505's sit on trailers in the secure parking area, waiting for the next practice run or regatta, and there are plans for a hoist to allow small keelboats water access. The center is well integrated with nearby commercial, industrial and residential mixed land uses, and paddlers enjoy venturing downtown to the redeveloped waterfront, with dock and pocket beach access. The center is nationally acclaimed for its multitude of programs, events, races, membership and safety record. Based on this success, as an extension of center programs, the Lake Samish facility is developed, and flatwater racing surpasses expectations in popularity.
	+
	+	As part of the downtown waterfront redevelopment process, and the updating of the Fairhaven waterfront comprehensive plan, the Port of Bellingham has graciously invited the paddling community to provide input to the planning process regarding user group needs. This will most likely involve a Port hosted public meeting at the Ferry Terminal, for the paddling community at large, following notification to the public and the above organizations.
	+
	+	Pie in the sky? Two weeks ago the Bellingham Yacht Club made an excellent formal presentation to the Port Marina Advisory Committee, which I chair, regarding their user group (dinghy and small non-motorized keelboat sailors) needs; it was very well received, and open discussion ensued on combining infrastructure needs with the paddling community (think critical mass). On January 31 the Waterfront Advisory Group convenes, which I am also a member of, and Fairhaven waterfront land use planning is the main agenda item.
	+
	+	Keep up the robust discussion, think big, and stay tuned.
	+
	+	**Re: The Future\\
	+	Erik Borgnes** \\
	+	01/22/07 #2415
	+
	+	I hate to be an instigator from afar, or one who makes suggestions of what to do knowing full well that I won't be the one sweeping the sidewalk - for awhile anyway. . .
	+
	+	But, I think you guys are right on the mark. Do one step at a time right now and don't worry too much about who will be the coaches, what boats you'll have, how much dues will be etc., for now anyway. The first step is to get a club formalized and the marginal participants are vital for this as it really shows the club officers that their donated time is appreciated.
	+
	+	Jeff's right. Pick a venue like the bay. Lobby for a little space and if all you ever have is a boat house of surfskis, OC's, rough water shells, then that's pretty great in itself. Once you have that, getting a second lake boat house for K1's or shells will be easier - assuming that's what members want.
	+
	+	Anyone going down to the Wavechaser races Feb 17 and 18? I just got a plane ticket. Nice warmer water . . . cold beer . . . . men in spandex . . . .
	+
	+	Erik
	+
	+	**Re: paddling (K- and C- 1,2,4) club motivations\\
	+	Larry Goolsby** \\
	+	01/22/07 #2417
	+
	+	Dale…..What I perceive that we could use on the waterfront is a place on the water. That's all that is needed for now. Throw in some parking, restrooms, freshwater hoses, a dock, and this becomes a place that anyone can use to get access to the saltwater. Marine park has all of this stuff (except the freshwater hoses and dock) and it has been working well for most of us this winter. What this place could also use is enough space to maybe add a boathouse or some other structure in the future. Maybe just a little more space to lease to a commercial business such as a tour company/kayak shop (gawd knows Bellingham lacks one). I look at Deep Cove Kayak and I see a bustling business on the water that promotes all forms of rowing and paddling. So let's start with some space, add a few necessities and go from there.
	+
	+	This doesn't undermine the need for a facility at another location (I'm greedy). I think we still need a feshwater facility for people that are just learning how to paddle. It was only 3.5 years ago that I spent my first 3 months strictly on freshwater and even after that I didn't go to the bay but a handful of times. Currently I see two different needs for the community: the kayakers + racers needing to be near saltwater and the newbies + racers needing to be near freshwater.\\
	+	Larry G.
	+
	+	**club experience\\
	+	donbuethorn <donbuethorn@…>** \\
	+	01/22/07 #2419
	+
	+	I was a member of the Seattle Canoe club on Green Lake for a couple of years while I was a student at the UW. They have a nice structure , docks, protected water, good location and active recreation and competition oriented programs. As a member who mostly wanted storage or access to the club boats I found some problems.
	+
	+	Race boats are fragile and club boats get used hard and abused. If they are bomb proof to stand the usage they are not satisfying to serious paddlers. Most of us learn to fix our own boats or pay if it gets too tricky. It was very hard to get anyone to work on the club canoes and there was a constant plea for work parties to work on the boats. Some of the work done was really poor. The well organized sprint group seemed to take care of their fleet but the their dues covered that part of the program and was part of the coaching duties. Those boats were not available for unsupervised use. As a casual member who was not a part of the organized programs I had slim pickings for craft. I also wanted to paddle in areas other than Green Lake and taking a club boat off site was quite a process, with good reason. Imagine how hard that could be on club boats. So how does it work out to store a nice race quality canoe in a public boat house ? Every time you unlock the door and walk in and down the racks to where you left your carbon beauty you will be holding your breath. Is it still there ? If it is there does it have some new contours or maybe just some scratches ?
	+
	+	In Seattle there was a constant posting of notices asking that only members be in the boat house, please no children , please do not move or touch equipment that is not your own or a club boat, please be careful in moving boats and equipment in the aisles, please do not leave the boat house unlocked while you are out on the water, please be sure you have locked the door when you leave and on and on. Locking boats to racks is very difficult and causes problems for everybody but the vandals. I found it much easier to find a storage space at home and to transport the boat to whatever settings worked the best at the time. I think the club worked well for the very organized programs, especially crew.
	+
	+	**Re: The Future\\
	+	Jeff Hegedus <jhegedus@…>** \\
	+	01/22/07 #2420
	+
	+	Groundwork needs to be laid before formal invitation to the officers of each organization is made (which I will handle), only after we have an approach outlined and agreed to with the Port. The idea is that the officers of each interested organization will designate a project representative, who will work with their membership, to generate initial feedback on visioning and infrastructure needs, prior to the public meeting. This will also generate some buzz, and increase attendance. The representatives will work with Dale McKinnon, who has agreed to act as Project Coordinator, to facilitate the collection of ideas; it should preferably and most effectively function as a committee. My role will be to act as an interface with the Port. Together, we can present organized thoughtful input to the Port planning process, while defining a more visible common affiliation. Interestingly, each organization brings to the table a different user base and skill set, while the overlap is actually what joins for creating critical mass and flavor.
	+
	+	Beginnings are sensitive times, and great opportunity is afoot. We'll know more after Dale and I meet with the Port on Wednesday, 'twill be soon
	+
	+	**Re: The Future\\
	+	Brad Clements** \\
	+	01/22/07 #2422
	+
	+	I cannot speak for the jericho facility, but I can speak to the club and facility in Vernon on Okanagan Lake.
	+
	+	The club is currently an outrigger club. There are now 5 converts who are also paddling surfski and more are becoming interested. There are also a few members who paddle marathon canoe. The club owns a bunch of OC1s, OC2s and OC6s and has storage for personal boats. The club owned boats are great for getting people to get involved. Most often they start with the OC6s and then get interested in smaller boats.
	+
	+	The club is great for it creates a paddling community and hosts races (both of which you already have). It also provides coaching for people getting into the sport.
	+
	+	The club boats are great for it allows an inexpensive way for people to get into paddling, and offers others access to extra boats when required.
	+
	+	The OC6s are great for they provide an opportunity for teamwork and people to get involved who are looking for group events.
	+
	+	The boathouse is great for it creates a community location where there always seems to be action happening - training, social paddles, and events. It is also great to have a location by the water to keep your boat.
	+
	+	The one great thing about the club having an executive is that there is always someone (or a group) of people who are always looking to the future of the sport and keeping us all organized (relatively) focused on developing the sport. I know without this, the paddling community would not be the same.
	+
	+	From my perspective, having lived in Bellingham for 5 years, you already have many of the things an organized club can bring - a sense of community and a focus on the sport. What an organized club can bring is attention and credibility on getting a facility and more of a focus on developing paddlers and the sport. An organized club also brings work which will take away from paddling for some who volunteer to do that work.
	+
	+	\\
	+	Either way, keep paddling and enjoy.
	+
	+	Brad
	+
	+	**Re: The Future\\
	+	Bob Putnam <putnam_rea@…>** \\
	+	01/23/07 #2428
	+
	+	I can tell you about Deep Cove Performance Paddling Club. It is mostly kids and just in its infancy still. Deep Cove Canoe & Kayak Centre has provided seed money to get the club rolling. My main goal was to get my kid paddling (12 yrs) and I knew that the attraction of him paddling with Pops wasn't going to do it. He needed other kids his same age out there on the water.
	+
	+	I lured some of the XC skiing kids that he races with down to paddle. The parents being active alternative sport types gave the program some support. A couple of the parents were paddlers already and had experience coaching skiing, soccer etc. Some of them took coaching course to learn technique.
	+
	+	Kayaking being a bit of an obscure sport makes it hard to attract the mainstream sport types…you know soccer, hockey, football types.
	+
	+	Initially we bought some smaller flatwater sprint boats and as the kids have grown in size and skill we have added boats. The parents are starting to get involved and are training for some of the races. Deep Cove Canoe & Kayak has put in quite a bit of cash and the club is slowly paying it back. We have also received some donations from a few other generous companies that are interested in supporting grass roots sports. We formed a "Non Profit Society" and last year we received a Student Summer Works grant and hired a young kid, 19yrs who competed on the BC Team and was good with the young athletes. He runs summer camps that generate some revenue so the club can buy more kayaks.
	+
	+	So far we have about 20 kids and some parents. We haven't really put it out there for more masters. I know there would be interest but I don't want the nature of the club to change too much.
	+
	+	One problem is that we are storing our kayaks in somebodies back yard. It would be much better to have a boathouse. Currently we have about 10xK1, 4xK2 and one ancient Struer K4 that needs some serious TLC.
	+
	+	Team boats like dragon boats and OC6 help bring in entry level paddlers who may progress to Flatwater but from what I can see at other clubs like False Creek the movement is slow.
	+
	+	The regattas are great because the kids and Masters can compete at the same event. CanoeKayakBC has also combined the Bantam (14yrs and under) and Masters Champs into the same regatta. Flatwater events (200m, 500m, 1000m) are a lot more spectator friendly than lets say, a 10 km surf ski race. Basically you set up a picnic site at the beach and surround yourself with a whack of kayaks and friends and prepare to do battle. Good Times!!
	+
	+	Gig Harbour near Seattle has a flatwater club that is booming. Alan Anderson is the driving force there. Affordable, high quality flatwater kayaks are available through (//link no longer valid//)
	+
	+	www.canoekayakbc.ca\\
	+	www.fcrcc.ca\\
	+	www.burnabylake.com
	+
	+	Hope that helps.\\
	+	Bob
	+
	+	**clubs\\
	+	Alan <Alan.Carlsson@…>** \\
	+	01/24/07 #2430
	+
	+	I'd like to toss in a few observations from the paddle sport clubs I've been involved with.
	+
	+	First, I agree with Joost's comments that the club needs to focus on the members it has rather than any potential members it does not have. Looking to bring in new members as a priority will quickly divert your thinking into a business model rather than a club. As soon as you start weighing off the costs and rewards of a paddling club using a business model you will see ICF paddling and kids programs get cut very quickly.
	+
	+	In all the clubs I have seen that are historical landmarks in the community, diversity and adult programs are much easier to support than kids programs. Again, as it was mentioned previously; paddle sports are not the fist choice of many active adults and even less kids.
	+
	+	As Joost pointed out, boats and services supplied need to meet the needs of the majority of your club members. If they use surfski and OC1, pushing ICF flatwater boats is not going to please members. Opportunities to try new things are always welcome, but should not be a core service you plan for.
	+
	+	My recommendation is that you first decide what the mission of your club is and the associated values of the founders. From there you will see your vision evolve.
	+
	+	If you don' take the time to give yourself this direction, you will be struggling to direct your efforts. You will also be able to attract like minded individuals with a clear statement of your purpose.
	+
	+	I just went through this process with a triathlon club and it was an excellent exercise and very useful.
	+
	+	When looking at successful club models we turned to the USA Swimming models and info, they are one of the best club systems in the sports world, and with good reason IF you follow their recommendations.
	+
	+	[[https://www.usaswimming.org/coaches-leaders/team-leaders/managing-your-team\|USA Swimming]]
	+
	+	Best of luck!
	+
	+	PS weather is looking good for Saturday, sunny and a high of 9 C but\\
	+	the wind picture is still incomplete.
	+
	+	**Re: clubs\\
	+	Dale McKinnon** \\
	+	01/24/07 #2431
	+
	+	Alan's points are well-modulated and make sense. Having come from a competitive swimming background, I tend to agree with his reference to USA swimming. However, a club is one thing, but municipal facilities for equipment and several clubs is another and that is what Jeff Hegedus and I will be meeting with Dan Stahl (Port of Bellingham) about in the first of many dialogues. I will tape record meetings I attend to make sure what I report back to you is accurate.\\
	+	\\
	+	Whatcompaddlers is one of several organizations (but the most articulate, active and boisterous) that need and want some kind of facility on the Bay, (AND on lakes). How whatcompaddlers handles its growth with surfskis is up to whatcompaddlers. But a facility for all human-powered craft will take some social string and glue to build consensus among the open-water rowers, ocean kayakers, martini paddlers, surfskiers, K1&2 sprinters, OC-1&2 paddlers, pullers (native paddlers), flat-water rowers and canoeists. This is what today's meeting begins. Those of us on the water with ourselves as engines comprise a huge part of the on-the-water census. So far, we've been very quiet.\\
	+	\\
	+	At some point, dialogue needs to start/continue with the City re: Lakes Whatcom and Padden.\\
	+	\\
	+	More later.\\
	+	Dale
	+
	+	**Re: clubs\\
	+	Alan <Alan.Carlsson@…>** \\
	+	01/25/07 #2437
	+
	+	Here are some other observation based on my time at the False Creek Racing Canoe Club in Vancouver as it seems to be very close to what the Bellingham multi-disciplinary club is trying to achieve.
	+
	+	This club is very unique in that they cater to many different paddler types from flat water ICF canoe/kayak & associated trainers, marathon canoes, outrigger canoes; solo, tandem and six, dragon boat and some surf skis.
	+
	+	Club boats, from what I remember are all the above except surf skis that are mostly if not all privately owned.
	+
	+	Most, if not all club "contentious issues" were related to the following areas (in no particular order);
	+
	+	club governance\\
	+	safety\\
	+	equitable service & resource allocation to all user groups\\
	+	user group etiquette (rental facility mentality towards equipment, facilities, staff, etc.)
	+
	+	There are a few other clubs looking to adopt the multi-sport model here in Canada, the Calgary Canoe Club is one, and many eastern Canadian clubs and Canoe-Kayak Canada affiliates are looking at this model to improve overall paddling accessibility as well as encourage the adult "Fit for Life" and masters populations to remain in paddle sports as a lifestyle choice.
	+
	+	On a final note, I would propose the following clubhouse designs for the Belling-hamster paddle sport facilities…
	+
	+	Design 1: single story with indoor workout facility\\
	+	Design 2: larger club multi-story with indoor workout facility\\
	+	Design 3: very large club multi story with indoor workout facility
	+
	+	**Re: This club thing…..\\
	+	Jeff Hegedus <jhegedus@…>** \\
	+	01/27/07 #2442
	+
	+	Go to [[http://www.jsca.bc.ca\|www.jsca.bc.ca]] and check out the Jericho Beach boathouse on Engish Bay. Notice the list of clubs contributing to its use (combined small craft sailing and paddling) including the Jericho Outrigger Club. Lots of programs and events and activities and people, made possible and economically viable by a certain level of user group organization. Bellingham's version of such a waterfront facility would be different, but the concept is a very useful model perhaps.
	+
	+	As soon as I wake up my face, LeAnne and I are headed up to this facility for todays race. Wow, lots of sun today, enjoy it!
	+
	+	**Re: This club thing…..\\
	+	Dale McKinnon** \\
	+	01/27/07 #2443
	+
	+	There seems to be some confusion about "this club thing:" and a facility/location for the small craft community here in Bellingham.\\
	+	\\
	+	Let me address "the club thing" first. Today, whatever organizational form whatcompaddlers takes is entirely up to whatcom paddlers. You can define "club" as being a group of people in relationship to one another identified by documents as having membership (whether dues are required or not), with a legally identifiable address for correspondence, and a location where members meet. A "club" can also be simply a group of people with no formal ties other than agreeing to share their time and energies doing whatever they want to do, together.\\
	+	\\
	+	The Jericho facility is NOT a club. It is a facility to house clubs, a physical and legal umbrella that provides safe, dry storage, equipment, showers, food, and is the social matrix for cross-sport communication. It gives folks that have interest but don't want to, or can't, fork out the thousands of dollars it takes to participate in various disciplines like surfsking, open-water rowing, sailing Lasers or 505s, to learn and participate in those water sports. Jericho provides the venue for teaching, racing, and training, with national-caliber coaching and instruction.\\
	+	\\
	+	The recent excitement and buzz about the Port wanting to talk to members of the small-boating community is about forming a Jericho-like location and facility for our unique small-boating community here in Bellingham, preferably in Fairhaven, with options and exisitng facilities already suggested by the Port. This is not about whatcompaddlers. This is about Bellingham, the fact that we've been identified by Outside magazine as the paddling capital of the US, yet, there is nothing, nada, zip, zilch of our tax dollars to show in the way of supporting what we love to do on the water and that really frackin sucks.\\
	+	\\
	+	You know the saying: Build it and they will come. This is not a "blue-skies" effort. It's real and the Port is listening, because we are willing to organize and talk with a cohesive voice…\\
	+	\\
	+	I'm going rowing. See you out there.
	+
	+	**Re: the officially 'unofficial' club\\
	+	Dale McKinnon** \\
	+	07/31/09 #6747
	+
	+	As a headzup on the paddling history here in B'ham, re: giving back to the NW paddling scene with some official races…\\
	+	Had it not been for a group of very interested and loosely connected surfskiers (whatcompaddlers), the Dan Harris Challenge would not have continued after that first race, five years ago. As race director for the first three years of the DHC, I personally know that had it not been for the social and participatory support (hosting the after-race feeding and making sure that pre-race munchies are present for competitors), and the supplying of safety boats, all by members of the whatcompaddlers' loosely organized group, our very own DHC simply wouldn't exist. We are now going into our sixth year of the DHC and it's becoming a major event in the NW paddling scene.
	+
	+	In terms of giving back, whatcompaddlers is more effective, more flexible and more supportive and welcoming to newcomers than any "official" club or organization dedicated to a specific water sport that I've witnessed in the NW… except for soundrowers. To bog whatcompaddlers down in "official" clubness begs the question: Why? Why is that necessary. Because that's the thing to do? Wear T-shirts? Have a clubhouse? Have insurance? How is any of that going to further the growth of surfskiing, OC-1 paddling, standup paddling or whatever new water sport comes along. What does acquiring a trailer to help tranpsort boats got to do with being a club? I call it cooperation amongst friends.
	+
	+	The virtual organization of whatcompaddlers is all that is required to connect people doing what they love to do. Arbitrarily imposing a rigid, legal artifact on a social phenomenon will alter and degrade it. Change to this phenomenon will come in its own, self-organizing time.
	+
	+	Dale McKinnon
	+
	+	"The person who says it cannot be done\\
	+	should not interrupt the person doing it."\\
	+	… an old Chinese proverb
	+

Paddling Media

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-	* [[http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com/\|Rambo's Locker]] Ian Newland doesn't seem to be adding to this anymore but there are good past posts. (Is Rambo still transfixed with Ninja Warrior training?)	+	* [[https://www.bondioutriggercanoeclub.com/blog\|Bondi Outrigger Canoe Club Blog]]
		+	* [[https://kanuculture.com/\|Kanu Culture]] Steve West
		+	* [[https://outriggersailingcanoes.blogspot.com/\|Outrigger Sailing Canoes]]
		+	* <del>[[http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com/\|Rambo's Locker]]</del> Sorry - looks like the videos are gone or used mechanisms like Adobe Flash that are no longer supported.
		+	* ...

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Using Boat Covers

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:31 +0000

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	+
	+	(discussion from facebook Surfski Kayak group 2/1/2023)
	+
	+	**Surfski Kayak\\
	+	Darthe Boll · ** \\
	+	· \\
	+	Thoughts on travel bags for prolonged rooftop trips of your surfski. I have seen comments from people on both sides of the topic. \\
	+	Side 1- you need to protect from road and bug debris\\
	+	Side 2- The flapping of a travel bag causes rash to the finish of your surfski. If you have a higher end layup, don't use a travel bag. \\
	+	Thoughts?
	+
	+	Johnnie Ortiz
	+
	+	Jeremy Vore can give good advice. Full disclosure,his family makes boat bags but he can give very knowledgeble information on proper fit.\\
	+	https://redleafdesigns.com/\\
	+	RedLeaf Designs \| Custom Canoe and Kayak Covers\\
	+	\\
	+	Johnnie Ortiz
	+
	+	David Ahmed \\
	+	The only reason I would ever use a ski cover is for sun protection , especially for a black carbon lay-up ski. The risk from road debris is minimal unless you are travelling on dirt roads .
	+
	+	Ian Thomas
	+
	+	Yep, I agree with this comment completely
	+
	+	Merrill Johnson
	+
	+	David Ahmed me too
	+
	+	Robert Bertelli
	+
	+	I just hauled mine from Phoenix to San Diego and back without a cover. Although it was ok, i would have preferred having it protected with a good fitting cover.
	+
	+	Brad Fothergill
	+
	+	I bag my paddleboards as they have a large frontal area. But they wear from the flap, even with a custom bag (especially bad when in rain)\\
	+	Drive from Canada to Florida with no bag on the ski and never the slightest issues.\\
	+	In the end, it’s whatever gives you peace of mind.
	+
	+	Julie Mitravich
	+
	+	I have made “sleeves” for mine out of stretchable fabric, it works really well and doesn’t flap.
	+
	+	Kjell Lundgren
	+
	+	A stretch ”boat sock” for racing K2 works fine and is cheap.
	+
	+	David Morrison
	+
	+	I just drove 2,500 kms on a New Zealand paddling road trip. Normally don't use a bag but borrowed one for this. It had a felt inner lining which protected the gel coat. I definitely felt a bit happier with the bag when going through roadworks and gravel roads.
	+
	+	Andrew Webber
	+
	+	Another vote for a boat sock... or whatever they are called.\\
	+	Tight fitting and soft, with a vinyl nose cone.
	+
	+	I don't use it locally, but if I'm going to be driving for more than an hour or so.\\
	+	Did a couple of thousand kms on a Tasmania trip in January, roads on the West coast have a lot of fine particulate that hangs in the air.\\
	+	Whether that sandblasts the boat or not isn't as important to me as all of that silica getting into and around my foot pedals and into the rudder cable holes....
	+
	+	Ian Rayfield
	+
	+	Just put a plastic bag over the front to stop bug splatter held with some electrical tape. Simples.
	+
	+	Jed Friedrichsen
	+
	+	I use a travel bag for my black Epic V10 S GT for longer road trips. I don't use it when driving to local lakes and rivers. It protects the boat from the sun and bugs, and it gives me a sense of safety. The boat has not suffered road rash. As I am writing this, I think I should order a bag for my OC 1.\\
	+	\\
	+	Johnnie Ortiz
	+
	+	Jed Friedrichsen Where will you get yours? I just might be in the market for one myself.
	+
	+	Kimberly Riggle
	+
	+	My boats live on top of my van so I use bags, although I have also had the boats up there without anything. I haven't noticed any I'll effects from bag use, although I'm switching one of them out since it doesn't drain and isn't actually waterproof as advertised. Also some of the bags I tried disintegrated pretty quick due to UV. I did get a large chip in one of my boats that I think was from the road (probably from a dump truck or something) but I can't be sure it wasn't from something else. I've gotten the red leaf bags mentioned earlier and it still looks great after 6 months in the sun (a different bag didn't last that long) so shop carefully if you buy one. I have had more ill effects from UV then the bags for sure. I'd probably skip the bags if I stored the boats inside though.
	+
	+	Patricia Kelly
	+
	+	Love em\\
	+	https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=5634121313377061&set=p.5634121313377061&type=3
	+

Using Boat Covers

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:31 +0000

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	+	(discussion from facebook September 2024)
	+
	+	James Anderson \\
	+	I drive mine roughly 5000kms round trip no idea what that is in freedom units. I have rhino cradles spaced about 2.2 metres apart on a rhino pioneer platform. I wrap the nose in bubble wrap and tape it together, so the nose is protected. I have noticed that securing it slightly on its side with the bottom facing towards the oncoming traffic there is less buffeting and movement. I make sure the straps I use are wide and doubled, one set at the front rear and the middle. Sometimes with some support in the middle as well.
	+
	+	Trevor Wagner \\
	+	James Anderson - I drive xyz kilometers a day and have no idea what that is in freedom units……… (next sentence) I have rhino cables………. Thank you for a good laugh
	+
	+	James Anderson \\
	+	Trevor Wagner - cradles read brother\\
	+	\\
	+	Darthe Boll \\
	+	James Anderson - 5000 km is like 25,000 bald eagle wingspans in American give or take.
	+
	+	James Anderson \\
	+	Darthe Boll - so only 10000 wedge tailed eagle wingspans.\\
	+	\\
	+	Orion Fleming \\
	+	Get a Burnham case, I have one for my K1 and it’s awesome
	+
	+	Joe Fore \\
	+	I'm blessed and have an incredibly talented better half. She makes custom socks for all our boats- We transport them fairly regularly from East Tennessee to Texas and/Florida without any issues. If there are any loose flappy parts, a bungee chord or a few wraps of tape usually do the trick.
	+
	+	Matthew White \\
	+	Joe Fore - mind me asking what material you used? We picked up some fabric and plan to make a sock this week before our trip from AL to TX next week. We have a cable knit stretch fabric. But would love to hear what you used.
	+
	+	Joe Fore \\
	+	Hi Matthew - No worries. This is the material we use:\\
	+	https://fabricwholesaledirect.com/.../ottertex-waterproof...\\
	+	Ottertex® Waterproof Canvas\\
	+	FABRICWHOLESALEDIRECT.COM\\
	+	Ottertex® Waterproof Canvas\\
	+	\\
	+	Bob Waters \\
	+	It will at least keep bugs and rocks off
	+
	+	Lloyd Reeves \\
	+	I’ve used socks driving long distance cross country and duct tape the back end to keep it from fluttering.
	+
	+	Bobby Bob \\
	+	Use the sock and wrap kitchen foilfilm over it it cost ya €3 just like ya wrap a suitecas in the airport ...job done 😉
	+
	+	Kim Reinike \\
	+	Agree with Lloyd Reeves. I have and do transport kayaks and skis from the MS Gulf Coast to the WA state area. A good sock and then tape up in loose areas to avoid flapping. Have done this with no problems for thousands of miles.
	+
	+	Kimberly Riggle \\
	+	I've been using RedLeaf Designs with my boat stored on the roof and through multiple cross US road trips with no issues. I tried multiple types before that and they just shredded way to quick (less than a year). They are pricey but better than buying multiple times. YMMV
	+
	+	Craig Ashworth \\
	+	Seen people wrap the boat in glad wrap before putting it in a sock before
	+
	+	Julie Mitravich \\
	+	I have both a home sewn sock made from stretch jersey that I have for mine, if it has a loose area, I just tape it or bungee around it.\\
	+	I also have a bomber Salamander bag that I got from The River Connection, Inc. which is heavy weight and fits like a corset. I roll up the end and bungee it.\\
	+	Both work really well, protect it from any small road debris. It helps to cover up the shiny new boat, steal me factor.\\
	+	Neither one has caused any damage
	+
	+	Tim Healy \\
	+	No sock ...less wind resistant, no issues with rain, no flapping. I remove socks and covers from all the boats I transport. Worse case, wipe the boat down when you put it on the water. 😊
	+
	+	Chris Elek \\
	+	I would wrap the boat tightly in a sheet. Than have the sock over it. Or try and get the sock on tight by wrapping it
	+
	+	Stephanie Schell \\
	+	If you put a soft cover, just watch for the rough ends of the bungee cords attached to the back deck (behind the cockpit) chewing a hole in the bag. If there are rough ends, try to cover them up with pipe wrap tape or something that will prevent them rubbing on the bag when you transport.
	+
	+	Clive Gasson \\
	+	Ive travelled that at more with the sock on. I use bungees on the rear section, stops the sock flapping and you can tuck the cord under.
	+
	+	Chuck Stevens \\
	+	No issues using mine. The UV protection is worth it .\\
	+	May be an image of kayak
	+
	+	Jeremy Vore \\
	+	We make custom-fit storage and transport covers for canoes, kayaks, and surf skis in our family business.\\
	+	We’d love to make one for your Epic!\\
	+	Www.redleafdesigns.com\\
	+	Custom Canoe and Kayak Storage and Transport Covers and Spray Decks – RedLeaf Designs\\
	+	REDLEAFDESIGNS.COM
	+
	+	Milenko Nasagacin \\
	+	I had that problem with some covers, You can wrap it with stretch pvc, and then you put in in sock, no problem there, but boat should be dry.
	+
	+	Justin Fraser \\
	+	https://burnhamboatslings.com.au/weathermax-surf-ski.../\\
	+	Check these out; I was so impressed with mine I bought a second one, and they were super quick from the US to Australia, the quilted quality of these covers is quite extraordinary,,,, and this is coming from someone to is an absolute fanatic\\
	+	WeatherMax Surf Ski Cover Single\\
	+	BURNHAMBOATSLINGS.COM.AU
	+
	+	Gerry Langworthy \\
	+	Justin Fraser Those are not cheap!
	+
	+	Justin Fraser \\
	+	Gerry Langworthy compared to what though, cheap and expensive is a matter of perspective,
	+
	+	Gerry Langworthy
	+
	+	The reason to put a cover on your ski, in my opinion, is to protect it from sun damage. The cover doesn’t really do more than that. I’ve transported kayaks and surfskis back and forth across North America, as far east as Newfoundland Canada and as far west as Alaska. I‘ve never had a sock for my watercraft, but I cover the boat or ski when my vehicle is stationary if I am parked somewhere and it is sunny. I think you are correct to be concerned that anything flapping could cause an abrasion to your ski.
	+
	+	Chris Sousa \\
	+	A buddy of mine travels to CJ from Boston every year with his cedar deck/carbon hulled kayaks on the truck, uncovered. Never an issue. If you’re concerned about picking up road debris, a wrap of commercial plastic wrap on the nose should do the trick, or just wrap the whole boat in shrink wrap. It won’t buffet in the wind like canvas will.
	+

Transportation, Storage & Care

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-	Be aware of what happens to straps when the get wet. They stretch. Then they will in turn tighten up again when they dry. Materials differ in this regard. Nylon generally absorbs a lot of water and usually stretches more than polyester which absorbs more water than polypropylene. If you re-tighten your straps after they get wet, make sure you do not leave them to dry on fragile boats like surfskis because drying straps will tighten up as they dry and can damage your boats. \\	+	Be aware of what happens to straps when the get wet. They stretch. Then they will in turn tighten up again when they dry. Materials differ in this regard. Nylon generally absorbs a lot of water and may stretch more than polyester which absorbs more water than polypropylene. If you re-tighten your straps after they get wet, make sure you do not leave them to dry on fragile boats like surfskis because drying straps will tighten up as they dry and can damage your boats. \\
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Racing in the Bellingham Bay (visibility)

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:31 +0000

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	+
	+	John Rybczyk \\
	+	04/16/18 #22759
	+
	+	One of our long-time, Dan Harris Challenge safety boat captains asked me pass this along. On all days, but especially on wavy days, the best way for the safety boater (and any boater for that matter) to see you is if you're wearing a brightly colored (orange or yellow) shirt or life jacket...preferably both. A yellow hat helps a little, but really it's too small do to much good by itself. And, not surprisingly, a white surf ski looks exactly like a whitecap.
	+
	+	I can absolutely confirm this from my experience aboard a safety boat during Kevin Olney's excellent Bellingham Bay series last summer. I clearly recall one night when our race was at the same time, and in the same place, as the weekly sailboat races. There were also a few waves to surf that night...not too big. The only surf skiers you could see at all from any distance were the ones wearing those bright orange shirts we received last year at the Gorge race. And you could see them for a long, long, long way. It was stunning how well those shirts stood out. And it was no small comfort amongst all those sailboats.
	+
	+	I say this because, not only is it a good rule to follow in general, but I've gotten wind of sailboat race happening at the same time as our Dan Harris Challenge this year. I'm not sure of the course and time details yet but, for now, plan to be VISIBLE. Nothing beats those god-awful nuclear orange things that Carter made us all wear at the Gorge. I know not everyone has one of those, but everyone should have something bright to wear.
	+
	+	See you on the water,
	+
	+	Johnr
	+

Boat Fatigue-Be Aware

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Fri, 25 Jul 2025 15:19:24 +0000

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	However, the best way to mitigate boat fatigue is to drop down to a more stable ski. So for instance, if you typically paddle an advanced ski, you will be better off in an intermediate ski for races like the Blackburn, Ride the Bull, Double Beaver, etc. Not only will you minimize boat fatigue in a more stable ski, but you will also be more confident and be able to remount more efficiently if you do capsize.		However, the best way to mitigate boat fatigue is to drop down to a more stable ski. So for instance, if you typically paddle an advanced ski, you will be better off in an intermediate ski for races like the Blackburn, Ride the Bull, Double Beaver, etc. Not only will you minimize boat fatigue in a more stable ski, but you will also be more confident and be able to remount more efficiently if you do capsize.

-	Most of my Blackburns have been in intermediate skis except when I was younger, trained in big New England ocean conditions, and was in the shape of my life. I am pretty sure I have paddled more different types of skis in the Blackburn than anyone for what that is worth. Now for 2023, I will drop down to one of the more stable intermediate skis since I getting older and my core strength is not what it once was. Boat Fatigue can still be a problem, but I know how to mitigate it and you can too!	+	Most of my Blackburns have been in intermediate skis except when I was younger, trained in big New England ocean conditions, and was in the shape of my life. I am pretty sure I have paddled more different types of skis in the Blackburn than anyone for what that is worth. Now for 2023, I will drop down to one of the more stable intermediate skis since I getting older and my core strength is not what it once was. Boat Fatigue can still be a problem, but I know how to mitigate it and you can too!

Paddles with Bob

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sat, 13 Sep 2025 11:25:43 +0000

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	* Really Tippy Ski: You have no idea what time it is, because if you try to look at your watch, you're going in.		* Really Tippy Ski: You have no idea what time it is, because if you try to look at your watch, you're going in.
-	* ****Regular Ski: You can glance at your watch to figure out what time it is.	+	* Regular Ski: You can glance at your watch to figure out what time it is.
-	* Stable Ski: It's so stable you can set you watch on it.	+	* Stable Ski: It's so stable you can set your watch on it.
-	* ...	+	* …

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bobs2015borabora

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bobs2015moorea

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Boat Body Leaks

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Sea Nature

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:32 +0000

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	+
	+	John Rybczyk \\
	+	Apr 13 #26555
	+
	+	Although surfy bay waves are the most fun, I also very much like the dead calm for optimal nature viewing conditions. To this end, there's a nice big flock of Bonaparte's Gulls hanging around the bay right now. These are small white gulls, almost tern like, with black heads (like a Laughing Gull if you know those). They also have a distinctive voice, a grating...grrrrr, an almost electric sounding rasp, more term-like than a gull like. I saw a flock of about 200 of them today in Chuckanut Bay and others have reported seeing them as well. Anyway, they are one of my favorites. I wouldn't go so far as to call them friendly, but they are not that skitterish. They are migrating through on their way north and we will see them again starting in July at the start of the Fall migration.
	+
	+	See you on the water, but not too close,
	+
	+	Johnr
	+

In Print/Print Style Layout

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-	* [[:aging#books\|Age Related]]	+	* [[health:age:aging#books\|Age Related]]
	* [[https://amzn.to/2F4XBPU\|Waterman 2.0: Optimized Movement for Lifelong, Pain-Free Paddling and Surfing]] Kelly Starett		* [[https://amzn.to/2F4XBPU\|Waterman 2.0: Optimized Movement for Lifelong, Pain-Free Paddling and Surfing]] Kelly Starett

Booties/Waterproof Socks/Water Footwear

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-	Cheap ones are not very waterproof and most will not retain waterproofness very long. The better ones (typically more expensive) will last somewhat longer particularly if they are well taken care off: No long toenails, or else thin inner socks are worn to protect them and some kind of protection is used on their outside as well - paddle shoes or water slippers that will fit over them. They also generally do not have much of a seal at their top, so water can flush in much faster than is typical with booties.A couple of the better makes: Sealskinz, Dexshell	+	Cheap ones are not very waterproof and most will not retain waterproofness very long. The better ones (typically more expensive) will last somewhat longer particularly if they are well taken care of: No long toenails, or else thin inner socks are worn to protect them and some kind of protection is used on their outside as well - paddle shoes or water slippers that will fit over them. They also generally do not have much of a seal at their top, so water can flush in much faster than is typical with booties.A couple of the better makes: Sealskinz, Dexshell

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Booties

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	+
	+	Larry Bussinger \\
	+	10/25/18 #23928
	+
	+	Its that time of year again. What 5-7 mm, high top booties are people recommending these days? I'm getting tired of cold feet.\\
	+	Larry B
	+
	+	Tyler Irwin \\
	+	10/25/18 #23929
	+
	+	I gotta say, I love my 7mm surf booties.
	+
	+	O'Neill Heat 7mm Round Toe Booties\\
	+	https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DV4P82Q/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_tcN0BbM5VJ69H
	+
	+	-Tyler
	+
	+	Dennis Mowry
	+
	+	10/26/18 #23930
	+
	+	Again, here's my recommendation: https://www.patagonia.com/product/r5-yulex-round-toe-surf-booties/89431.html?dwvar_89431_color=BLK&cgid=root
	+
	+	Patagonia, 7mil lifetime guarantee has saved me buying another pair when the get ripped at the ankles, or even ripped.\\
	+	15% off sale going on now at REI?
	+
	+	:D'
	+
	+	Kimberly Reeves
	+
	+	10/26/18 #23931
	+
	+	I have a lovely pair of 5, maybe 7mm pair of warm, waterproof booties....Billabong Furnace!\\
	+	Kim
	+
	+	bill \\
	+	10/26/18 #23932
	+
	+	I have last years version of these. They are super warm and have really nice feel and toe mobility on the peddles. The new version has thin reinforced bottoms. My are just socks and need the ocasional aqua seal fixes... these new ones looks super!
	+
	+	https://www.patagonia.com/product/r4-yulex-hybrid-surf-booties/89429.html?dwvar_89429_color=BLK&cgid=mens-wetsuits-accessories#tile-4=&start=1&sz=24
	+
	+	Bill.
	+
	+	Michael Medler
	+
	+	10/26/18 #23933
	+
	+	I will just add that a pair of wool sox adds another 10 degrees to the comfort range of my booties. Also, thin polypro does the same trick under wetsuits and farmer johns. The downside is the impact on the laundering cycle.
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	+	David Hooper \\
	+	10/26/18 #23935
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	+	And, the S. Africans think wool socks make booties look even more sexy…
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Booties?

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:33 +0000

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-	10/10/16 #20071	+

-	Both Dean and I have birthdays coming close. I need a new pair of paddling pants. Who thinks they have a better option than NRS Hydroskins (they're on sale)? Also, where did you buy them?	+	Dean Bumstead \\
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-	On 10/10/2016 2:15 PM, marc-rob@... [whatcompaddlers] wrote:	+	While we're at it….. I need a pair of low profile booties so I can get my big feet under the strap of my Fenn surfski. Thanks
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-	Both Dean and I have birthdays coming close. I need a new pair of paddling pants. Who thinks they have a better option than NRS Hydroskins (they're on sale)? Also, where did you buy them?	+
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-	While we're at it..... I need a pair of low profile booties so I can get my big feet under the strap of my Fenn surfsk. Thanks	+

	Dean		Dean

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-	10/10/16 #20074	+

	Not sure about pants but I have been very happy with Billabong 2mm reef booties that I bought in Hood River. You can get them direct at:		Not sure about pants but I have been very happy with Billabong 2mm reef booties that I bought in Hood River. You can get them direct at:

-	https://us.billabong.com/shop/product/mens-wetsuits-accessories/2mm-reef-boot?color=BLK	+	[[https://us.billabong.com/shop/product/mens-wetsuits-accessories/2mm-reef-boot?color=BLK\|https://us.billabong.com/shop/product/mens-wetsuits-accessories/2mm-reef-boot?color=BLK]]

-	In fact I just ordered another pair because I left one in the Padden parking lot... (Anyone find it?) They are pretty minimal for winter but excellent all other times. They also make a higher cuff version. I wasn't sure I would like the split toe but it turns out to be nice because it keeps them in place. I cut off all the straps too.\\	+	In fact I just ordered another pair because I left one in the Padden parking lot… (Anyone find it?) They are pretty minimal for winter but excellent all other times. They also make a higher cuff version. I wasn't sure I would like the split toe but it turns out to be nice because it keeps them in place. I cut off all the straps too.\\
	Paul		Paul

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-	10/10/16 #20077	+

-	I just bought my third pair of Valhalla pants. The first two lasted around 13 years each. Neoprene bottoms and Lycra top, no seams. $60 includes shipping. This pair should last me into my 80's!	+	Gone Diving on Iowa st had a good pair. Moderate bottom and zippered side

	Larry B		Larry B

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-	Gone Diving on Iowa st had a good pair. Moderate bottom and zippered side	+	Once again, for years I have used Promotion Wetsuits gear. They make and market their gear from Hood River OR. A quick look at the site shows great Clearance deals now. Check out the neoprene farmer john suits and tops and booties too. Solid stuff at a good price.
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-	Hi Marc	+
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-	I have a pair of Vaikobi paddling pants which are awesome - super comfy and padding in all the right places. We sell them at Deep Cove Outdoors: http://www.deepcoveoutdoors.com/product/vaikobi-v-cold-paddling-pants/ and can ship them if you're not coming up anytime soon or if Bob isn't coming down.	+
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-	Once again, for years I have used Promotion Wetsuits gear. They make and market their gear from Hood River OR. A quick look at the site shows great Clearance deals now. Check out the neoprene farmer john suits and tops and booties too. Solid stuff at a good price.	+

	MG		MG

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	I will give my recommendation for the Patagonia booties.		I will give my recommendation for the Patagonia booties.

-	I have gone through several others, Excel & ONeil, which I have repaired and patched. They were good while they lasted. Mainly ripping of the heel section. The main advantage to the Patagonia's is the lifetime guarantee. I've sent back stuff which came back as good as new including a totally ripped wetsuit, from being dragged along the Westport jetty, another story. Worth the extra bucks although comparable. They aren't bulky for a narrow foot well but the straps could use cutting off.\\	+	I have gone through several others, Excel & ONeil, which I have repaired and patched. They were good while they lasted. Mainly ripping of the heel section. The main advantage to the Patagonia's is the lifetime guarantee. I've sent back stuff which came back as good as new including a totally ripped wetsuit, from being dragged along the Westport jetty, another story. Worth the extra bucks although comparable. They aren't bulky for a narrow foot well but the straps could use cutting off.
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-	10/11/16 #20091	+

-	I highly recommend checking out Vaikobi paddling pants. That's all I use in the winter on training paddles on the lake. I've used most things on the market - for me this has been the best fit. Always available at OCEANPADDLESPORTS.COM	+	MARC ROBERTA WHITLOCK

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	Great! Thanks to you all, Dean and I have many options to consider.		Great! Thanks to you all, Dean and I have many options to consider.
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	Hey I'm having a birthday coming up.\\		Hey I'm having a birthday coming up.\\
	Cleanline in OR is having a sale, 10% off non sale order just by signing up for their newsletter & no sales tax.		Cleanline in OR is having a sale, 10% off non sale order just by signing up for their newsletter & no sales tax.
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Booties 11/2013

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:34 +0000

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-	11/30/13 #15184	+	11/30/13 #15184

-	Regards feet: I've had best luck with NRS booties with mens dress socks inside. For some reason direct skin-to-neoprene doesn't work for my feet. That thin layer of material makes a big difference.	+	Regards feet: I've had best luck with NRS booties with mens dress socks inside. For some reason direct skin-to-neoprene doesn't work for my feet. That thin layer of material makes a big difference.

-	When I've gone big with thicker socks, even woolies, it goes the wrong way and my feet get cold. When I've tried the water-barrier socks of various kinds, it's the same: freezing feetsies. Like my feet sweat when they cool off - so dry doesn't matter.	+	When I've gone big with thicker socks, even woolies, it goes the wrong way and my feet get cold. When I've tried the water-barrier socks of various kinds, it's the same: freezing feetsies. Like my feet sweat when they cool off - so dry doesn't matter.

-	Of course dry-suit footies work great with thin socks also (best thing ever). But I can't handle dry suit unless it's blowing, very cold and big conditions where there's a lot of spray.	+	Of course dry-suit footies work great with thin socks also (best thing ever). But I can't handle dry suit unless it's blowing, very cold and big conditions where there's a lot of spray.

-	....	+	….

	rd		rd

	Reivers Dustin \\		Reivers Dustin \\
-	11/30/13 #15186	+	11/30/13 #15186

-	Forgot something important: I love the high boots, but they are bad trouble if you dump. I have a pair for dead flat and bitter cold. But I don't dare wear them if there's any chance of waves. word to the wise.	+	Forgot something important: I love the high boots, but they are bad trouble if you dump. I have a pair for dead flat and bitter cold. But I don't dare wear them if there's any chance of waves. word to the wise.

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-	Booty wise...Patagonia 7mm wool lined haven't put a chill on my feet yet. Highly recommended.	+	Booty wise…Patagonia 7mm wool lined haven't put a chill on my feet yet. Highly recommended.

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-	11/30/13 #15188	+	11/30/13 #15188

-	For feet check out the newest generation of NRS booties. I have these and really like them. They have a much bigger toe box than previous generations and are fuzzy inside. There much warmer than my previous NRS booties that pinched my toes. There also thin and flexible enough to work the peddles easily.	+	For feet check out the newest generation of NRS booties. I have these and really like them. They have a much bigger toe box than previous generations and are fuzzy inside. There much warmer than my previous NRS booties that pinched my toes. There also thin and flexible enough to work the peddles easily.

-	http://www.nrs.com/product/23051/nrs-freestyle-wetshoe	+	[[http://www.nrs.com/product/23051/nrs-freestyle-wetshoe\|http://www.nrs.com/product/23051/nrs-freestyle-wetshoe]]

	Without a doubt the best booties i have ever had in 25 years of paddling.		Without a doubt the best booties i have ever had in 25 years of paddling.
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-	11/30/13 #15189	+	11/30/13 #15189

	I agree with Bill on the feet thing. I have the new NRS Paddle Wetshoe. Boxed out toe keeps the blood flowing. Fleece lined adds a layer of warmth and makes them easier to slip on and off. I went with zippered side for better dryout between sessions and easier to slide in drysuit booties and/or a sock layers.		I agree with Bill on the feet thing. I have the new NRS Paddle Wetshoe. Boxed out toe keeps the blood flowing. Fleece lined adds a layer of warmth and makes them easier to slip on and off. I went with zippered side for better dryout between sessions and easier to slide in drysuit booties and/or a sock layers.

-	http://www.nrs.com/product/23071/nrs-paddle-wetshoe	+	[[http://www.nrs.com/product/23071/nrs-paddle-wetshoe\|http://www.nrs.com/product/23071/nrs-paddle-wetshoe]]

	Steve Scoggins		Steve Scoggins

-	11/30/13 #15190	+	11/30/13 #15190

-	I agree with you about the fuzzy NRS boots...unless you paddle a Fenn. The big toe box foot doesn't allow for comfortable steering. I had to ditch them for the Patagonia round toe.	+	I agree with you about the fuzzy NRS boots…unless you paddle a Fenn. The big toe box foot doesn't allow for comfortable steering. I had to ditch them for the Patagonia round toe.

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	Thanks for all the info. I paddle a Swordfish or a Fenn Elite SL, so I guess I have to go to the Patagoinia booties. My feet are size 11 -12.		Thanks for all the info. I paddle a Swordfish or a Fenn Elite SL, so I guess I have to go to the Patagoinia booties. My feet are size 11 -12.

Wet suit booties

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		+	I will second that recommendation from Dennis. Three mm boots don't keep my feet warm in January and February, even with socks I wear those 7 mm Patagucci booties with no socks, anytime, and my feet stay warm. An added bonus is that you get twice the workout...once when you're paddling and again in your car, truck or van when you try to take those booties off. It's worth it though.
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		+	John Rybczyk

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Booty Bay 2021

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	"Additionally, any piece of plastic recovered from the race course will be awarded a -15 second time bonus."		"Additionally, any piece of plastic recovered from the race course will be awarded a -15 second time bonus."

-	So does that plastic crab pot bouy with the name "Rybczyk" on it count? LOL	+	So does that plastic crab pot bouy with the name "Rybczyk" on it count? LOL

Bora Bora Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:34 +0000

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-	* [[https://www.borabora.com/event/hawaiki-nui-vaa\|Hawiiki Nui Va'a]]	+	* [[https://www.borabora.com/event/hawaiki-nui-vaa\|Hawiiki Nui Va'a]] 80 mile outrigger race
	* [[http://www.maraamusurfskirace.com/en_html5/index.html\|Mara'amu]] 2018 last year run?		* [[http://www.maraamusurfskirace.com/en_html5/index.html\|Mara'amu]] 2018 last year run?
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Round Bowen Race Report 2018

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	+	Bob Putnam \\
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	+	Whatcom Paddlers and Vancouver Island Paddlers were conspicuously absent from Round Bowen Challenge (RBC) yesterday. 64 paddlers, Kelowna crew in full force, some folk from Seattle. People did the event solo, relay or half Bowen. 3 x prone paddlers did the full island solo!! Former Deep Cove Kayak Manager was one of them. He is preparing for the July 29 Molokai Crossing on Prone. Today he will circumnavigate Bowen AGAIN! and then paddle to Ambleside!! that's around 50 km!!
	+
	+	Conditions were pretty tame. There was a big ebb, but no wind to speak of. We paddled clockwise so the first leg was along the south shore with the ebb. My speeds were 8 - 10 mph along here. On the back side we paid the price fighting a punishing current with speeds averaging 5- 6 mph.
	+
	+	Before the race Greg Redman said he was going out easy and was going to pick up pick up the pace at Cape Roger Curtis. Some years ago, Wes Hammer, in his first surfski race ever, won Round Bowen at the tender age of 19 when he drafted veteran Joost Zeegers the full distance and out sprinted him. Wes took the inside line and was clearly losing ground to the chase group of Shane Martin, Loic Letalleur (kelowna), Sally, the crusher of male ego, Wallick and me clinging on for dear life which was short lived. Doubles were on their own with a no drafting rule. In the end, Greg took the day, the chase group blew apart, shaking off Shane and Sally. Sally re-grouped, road Shane's wash for a bit and then said, "thanks very much Shane, but I've gotta go now." Taking 7th over all. Remmler and I traded positions sharing the work load. Just before the final leg from Hood Point, I tried to grab a gel so I would have energy to crush Remmler at the finish. While I fumbled with my fuel, Remmler paddled away from me.
	+
	+	Not sure what the story is with the 1st place rower but I suspect it is a timing error. \\
	+	https://www.webscorer.com/racedetails?raceid=139036&did=154742
	+
	+	You should consider taking place in the Kelowna Waterman Challenge. These guys are supporting many of the coastal races with presence, and I am planning to reciprocate. I'm confident they will put on a great event.
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	+	David Scherrer \\
	+	06/03/18 #23147
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	+	What happened to Warren?
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	+	BISK \\
	+	06/03/18 #23148
	+
	+	Thanks for the great report Bob. The rower just crushed it! The 2:00:54 time is not in error. It would be great to see some people from further afield next year and hopefully some more rowers so we can create a category for these guys.
	+
	+	And thank you to everyone who did come. It was a great day to be on the water.
	+
	+	Brent\\
	+	Bowen Island Sea Kayaking
	+
	+	Carl Tessmann
	+
	+	06/04/18 #23152
	+
	+	Ouch.. shamed in the first sentence of Bob’s race report, and I think it hurt worse than getting thumped by Sally in the race. Well, I guess we Vancouver Islanders deserved it. Bowen was certainly one of the highlights of my paddling season last year and I’ll definitely make it happen next year. Unfortunately this year it preceded the Victoria Island Iron race next weekend. Similar to Kelowna’s Waterman event, this race includes two days of racing OC6, OC2, OC1, Surfski, SUP etc. Unfortunately, I couldn’t abandon my family both weekends and remain in good graces.
	+
	+	If you can make it to Victoria next weekend come join us! Saturday is dedicated to OC6 outrigger racing and Sunday is the Small boat event (surfski, OC1, OC2, SUP etc.) Starting from Cadboro Bay we can expect some challenging ocean racing conditions in a truly beautiful spot.
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	+	Island Iron OC6 - Saturday June 9: http://orpc.ca/content/index.php/races/island-iron/
	+
	+	Island Iron Small Boats - Sunday June 10: http://orpc.ca/content/index.php/island-iron-small-boat-2016/
	+
	+	OC6 racing you ask?? Well I have recently succumbed to an “if you can’t beat em, join em” philosophy. Paddling a surfski on Vancouver Island can be awfully lonely, so I joined the Comox Valley Canoe Racing club and helped rally a team of strong local athletes – some with paddling experience and some fresh meat – to invigorate our men’s competitive OC6 team. We have been working hard since the middle of winter to build fitness and cohesion in the OC6 and this coming Saturday we have two men’s boats entered in this event – one rookie boat in the Men’s open category, and one veteran masters boat. We’re all pretty excited to see how we stack up. The fun thing about this team is that nearly half us are also surfski paddlers. So I guess in a way we’re doing our best to convert OC paddlers from inside their ranks.
	+
	+	Anyway, hope to see some of you in Victoria next weekend!
	+
	+	Carl Tessmann Vancouver Island Surfski www.visurfski.ca
	+
	+	Bob Putnam
	+
	+	06/04/18 #23154
	+
	+	Warren went over the handlebars mountain biking a few days prior to the race. Hurt his hand - it was going numb during the race, so he pulled out at Tunstall Bay 1/2 way. Good Call, but he went the distance for post race beer drinking.
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Brazil (Brasil) Surfski

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		+	* [[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuykg4We5c_APrTAtIzqoSyHM9dDJKul7\|Surfski TV Central & South America Youtube Playlist]]
	* …		* …

Brazil Downwind/Paddle Videos

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	* [[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2LGTcwpOnaBmHNhcLFNpUg/videos\|Surfski Alagoas Brasil Youtube]]		* [[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2LGTcwpOnaBmHNhcLFNpUg/videos\|Surfski Alagoas Brasil Youtube]]
-	* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKAG5k8yvNA&list=PLuykg4We5c_APrTAtIzqoSyHM9dDJKul7\|Surfski TV Central & South America Youtube Playlist]]	+	* [[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuykg4We5c_APrTAtIzqoSyHM9dDJKul7\|Surfski TV Central & South America Youtube Playlist]]
	* [[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnrywnFDh9iXzOa14IfZ-Iw\|Movimento Surfski Brasil Youtube]]		* [[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnrywnFDh9iXzOa14IfZ-Iw\|Movimento Surfski Brasil Youtube]]

Breathing

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	* [[https://www.stack.com/a/3-breathing-techniques-for-athletes-to-improve-focus-and-relaxation\|Breathing to improve focus and relaxation]] includes links to additional breathing articles		* [[https://www.stack.com/a/3-breathing-techniques-for-athletes-to-improve-focus-and-relaxation\|Breathing to improve focus and relaxation]] includes links to additional breathing articles
-	* [[https://www.amazon.com/Breath-New-Science-Lost-Art/dp/0735213615/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=breathe&qid=1606958249&sr=8-3#customerReviews\|Breath: The New Science of a Lost Art]] James Nestor

	“Yes, they are elves," Legolas said. "and they say that you breathe so loud they could shoot you in the dark." - J.R.R. Tolkien		“Yes, they are elves," Legolas said. "and they say that you breathe so loud they could shoot you in the dark." - J.R.R. Tolkien

British Columbia, CA Surfski

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	* Skeena River [[https://youtu.be/Tyhh5QSWVG0\|video]]		* Skeena River [[https://youtu.be/Tyhh5QSWVG0\|video]]
		+	* Revelstoke
		+	* [[https://paddlingmag.com/trips/destinations/paddling-adventures-in-revelstoke/?utm_source=Paddling+Magazine&utm_campaign=b43d49a964-ptw-2025-08-05&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-0cd6a72dfd-91587096&mc_cid=b43d49a964\|5 paddling related options]] (Paddling Magazine)
	* [[:sunshine_coast\|Sunshine Coast, BC]]		* [[:sunshine_coast\|Sunshine Coast, BC]]
	* [[:vancouver\|Vancouver, BC Area]]		* [[:vancouver\|Vancouver, BC Area]]

British Virgin Islands Surfski

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-	As with many places in the Caribbean, there are wonderful still waters to explore and windy stretches for downwinders, but surfski availability will be the big challenge here.	+	Marina Cay, British Virgin Islands photo:Britannica.com
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		+	As with many places in the Caribbean, there are wonderful still waters to explore and windy stretches for downwinders, but surfski availability will be the big challenge here.

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Broke Down Paddlers

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:37 +0000

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	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	04/29/19 #24763
	+
	+	Found a sports medicine guy, Mike Hill. U of O medical school, former staff guy for their track program. His wife, Darcy, is nutrition person and WWU staff. Maybe Michael M or John R. know her deal. Mike gave up his Eugene practice so they could move up here. Mike is with Performance Health NW. He's got history with Olympic Trials for track (travelled with the U.S. Team). He has dealt with messed up shoulders from various sports, but not sure how much paddling he's tangled with. I like his first impression. This office, Performance NW, does not have an acupuncture person, but they have various resources. Mike's interest spiked a bit on the repetitive stress aspect of paddling. He has DC (Doctor of Chiropractic), but seemed to downplay that. There's also MS, and CCSP in his title. Don't know what that is.
	+
	+	I talked with him this evening. He is son-in-law of my wife's friend, Sandy Gardener. I'm out for this rib thing. I think David is rehabbing a shoulder, Duncan as well. I think it would be good to get the guy to show up at a Wed Niter and see if we can find out if he's a good connection. Seems like each of us has found our own resources by trial and error. I had a Naturopath guy who did great for me, but he's out of the picture now. Maybe if we can get a few of us to meet with this guy at Bloedel after a paddle we can get some advice and show this guy what paddling is. He says he's interested.
	+
	+	Can I get a couple of folks to commit to talking with Mike Hill after a Wed Niter, maybe next week, 5/8/19? Maybe we can get a volume discount since we're all kinda beat up. If it works I'll email the guy and lock it down. Let me know.
	+
	+	rd
	+
	+	lori & beau whitehead \\
	+	04/30/19 #24764
	+
	+	Mike Hill is awesome. I give him & his office partner Dr. DeRoche full credit for getting my torn bicep tendon healed this winter. A "renowned" orthopedic doc in town told me rehab wouldn't work and I should just let time heal and to stop paddling. And that it would be 12 weeks before I could train again. I was getting ready to cancel my trip to Maui 2 Molokai but went to see Mike. Both Mike Hill & DeRoche said that was complete B.S. and put me on a regimen of deep laser treatment & very specific weight training. I was back on the water in 4 weeks and back to full-duty at work in 6.
	+
	+	surfskilady \\
	+	04/30/19 #24769
	+
	+	Brad Jones is also fabulous. His background as a swimmer carries over nicely to working with paddlers, although he works with a wide variety of athletes (and non-athletes too!) Most of my Ski to Sea ladies team see Brad. As well as a bunch of our local paddlers.\\
	+	http://rolfingbellingham.com
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin
	+
	+	05/01/19 #24773
	+
	+	I only got one response. My idea was for several of us to meet with the Doc after a Wed Niter and explain our sport. Not sure he'll be interested in just talking with me. Hope you guys have fun tonight, I'll be home watching "Red Green" reruns.
	+
	+	John Rybczyk \\
	+	05/01/19 #24775
	+
	+	Reivers, I note that your multiple injuries are always unrelated to paddling. I can only conclude that you have turned yourself into a finely tuned paddling machine, a thoroughbred. But like the thoroughbred, not well suited for other activities. I think the only solution is to confine yourself to paddling only and exclusively. No cooking, cleaning, home repairs, oil-changing, lawn mowing, furniture moving...nothing. Nothing but paddling, naps and more paddling. Discuss with Hilde and let me know how this idea goes down. Make sure you emphasize to her that you are a finely tuned thoroughbred.
	+
	+	see you on the water when your ribs get better. johnr
	+

Broken Paddle Recovery 2018

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:36 +0000

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		+	==== Recovery: Paddle with 1/2 of Broken Paddle ====
		+
		+	Event one: August 2018 \\
	Wind 25 avg.\\		Wind 25 avg.\\
	Location: just west of Swell City\\		Location: just west of Swell City\\
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	Discussion 1: When my paddle snapped in half, I unclamped the broken piece (5"long) and put it in my jacket pocket. I then slid the two paddle halves together and attempted to continue my journey. The paddle blades now had the ability to rotate all 360 degrees relative to each other. So I began concentrating on using my hand grip to feather the paddle blades independently: FAIL. I kept spreading my hands appart allowing the two halves of my paddle to come apart. I fell in. Eventually I got to Cheap Beach (between Swell and the Hatch parking) paddling one half of the paddle like an OC paddle and sitting on the other half.		Discussion 1: When my paddle snapped in half, I unclamped the broken piece (5"long) and put it in my jacket pocket. I then slid the two paddle halves together and attempted to continue my journey. The paddle blades now had the ability to rotate all 360 degrees relative to each other. So I began concentrating on using my hand grip to feather the paddle blades independently: FAIL. I kept spreading my hands appart allowing the two halves of my paddle to come apart. I fell in. Eventually I got to Cheap Beach (between Swell and the Hatch parking) paddling one half of the paddle like an OC paddle and sitting on the other half.

-	Event two: September 14, 2018\\	+	==== Recovery: Prone hand paddle on surfski ====
		+
		+	Event two: September 14, 2018 \\
	Wind 20 avg.\\		Wind 20 avg.\\
	Location: Hatch Hook.\\		Location: Hatch Hook.\\
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	**Re: Two remount stories in gorge hatchery cond\\		**Re: Two remount stories in gorge hatchery cond\\
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		+	==== Recovery: Swimming holding or towing surfski ====
	Nicholas Cryder \\		Nicholas Cryder \\
	09/16/18 #23792		09/16/18 #23792
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	When I was hit from behind by a windsurfer on a big day in the hatch I lost my paddle, and had to swim in 250 meters or so with the ski. I just hugged the ski with one arm and crawl stroked / kicked. Slow, but stable and steady progress. In that situation I would normally have used my tow line so I could swim properly and just pull the ski, but it was being used as a laundry line at Carter's place.		When I was hit from behind by a windsurfer on a big day in the hatch I lost my paddle, and had to swim in 250 meters or so with the ski. I just hugged the ski with one arm and crawl stroked / kicked. Slow, but stable and steady progress. In that situation I would normally have used my tow line so I could swim properly and just pull the ski, but it was being used as a laundry line at Carter's place.

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On Water Workarounds for a Broken Rudder Cable (and a Broken Rudder Pedal)

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:36 +0000

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-	- Bungee w/ Hook - hooked to one side of the rear rudder mount steering arm. Paddlers who equip themselves to use one of these bungee techniques often just leave their rudder arm cover off for quicker access when a cable breaks. Make sure that the hook you attach to your bungee can easily be hooked to your rudder arm on either side. To deploy bungee - typically paddler will have to get in water or have a fellow paddler attach the hook to the rudder mount steering arm. Using a hook that has been tested beforehand for ease of use will speed your recovery of steering, just as not using a cover over the rudder mount also accelerates deployment of this fix. Every thing you do to speed/ease this process will be that much more important in difficult conditions	+	- Bungee w/ Hook - hooked to one side of the rear rudder mount steering arm. Paddlers who equip themselves to use one of these bungee techniques often just leave their rudder arm cover off for quicker access when a cable breaks (But make sure the screw hole for the rudder cover does not allow water into the hull (Fenns do) - cover it with tape or something). Make sure that the hook you attach to your bungee can easily be hooked to your rudder arm on either side. To deploy bungee - typically paddler will have to get in water or have a fellow paddler attach the hook to the rudder mount steering arm. Using a hook that has been tested beforehand for ease of use will speed your recovery of steering, just as not using a cover over the rudder mount also accelerates deployment of this fix. Every thing you do to speed/ease this process will be that much more important in difficult conditions
	- Deck mounted bungee - you can use a bungee on the broken cable side to restore steering that can be all be done with the remaining pedal with a good steering cable (* //if you have installed this setup all before you launch// *):		- Deck mounted bungee - you can use a bungee on the broken cable side to restore steering that can be all be done with the remaining pedal with a good steering cable (* //if you have installed this setup all before you launch// *):
	- [[:modifications#deck_mounts\|Use/Add Deck Mounts]] or you can look for marine grade well nuts on the Internet or at your local hardware store - properly installed these are quite strong		- [[:modifications#deck_mounts\|Use/Add Deck Mounts]] or you can look for marine grade well nuts on the Internet or at your local hardware store - properly installed these are quite strong

Surfski Bucket Surgery Discussion

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:37 +0000

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-	Chris Chappell	+	Chris Chappell ([[https://fastpaddler.com/\|FastPaddler]] Wayland, MA)

	Hey Nikolai Rogich you need to make a road trip out to Boston this year. You can try out some other big boy boats as part of your research: my 560XXL Gen2, V14 (with modified bucket for big boys), Cinco and Sete XXXLs. Oh and try some paddles too		Hey Nikolai Rogich you need to make a road trip out to Boston this year. You can try out some other big boy boats as part of your research: my 560XXL Gen2, V14 (with modified bucket for big boys), Cinco and Sete XXXLs. Oh and try some paddles too
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-	Ron Cook Hi Ron, LOL ..well sure yours looks more OEM! Yup my "dent" may not be pretty, but works for me. Only challenge with the "dent" is the transition from the back of the seat into the "dent", hence I just used the foam with the UHMW sheet over it. Makes a nice transition from back to side when rotating. Here is a pic of the blocks from 1/2inch Divinycell I used to fill the gap then shape. May be a better way, but like the structural properties and ability to shape, then just 2 layers of glass.	+	Ron Cook Hi Ron, LOL ..well sure yours looks more OEM! Yup my "dent" may not be pretty, but works for me. Only challenge with the "dent" is the transition from the back of the seat into the "dent", hence I just used the foam with the UHMW sheet over it. Makes a nice transition from back to side when rotating. Here is a pic of the blocks from 1/2inch Divinycell I used to fill the gap then shape. May be a better way, but like the structural properties and ability to shape, then just 2 layers of glass.

	{{https://surfski.wiki//lib/plugins/ckgedit/fckeditor/userfiles/image/equipment/seat/bucket2.jpg?direct&250x187\|bucket2.jpg}}		{{https://surfski.wiki//lib/plugins/ckgedit/fckeditor/userfiles/image/equipment/seat/bucket2.jpg?direct&250x187\|bucket2.jpg}}

Buddy Paddling

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:37 +0000

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	In a group of paddlers, the one simple way to know that everyone has someone looking out for them and to know who you are supposed to look out for is to use the buddy system. Everyone pairs up with another paddler - each buddy looks out for their buddy. In an ideal world each pair of buddies would be evenly matched speedwise making it easier for everyone to paddle in their comfort zone and to keep pace with their buddies. But the reality is that those matches do not always occur. And the paddlers with limited amounts of experience or skill really should be buddied with better paddlers so you are much less likely to wind up with buddy pairings where both paddlers get into trouble and are unable to help their buddy. At least one paddler in each buddy pair should probably be experienced and competent in the chosen paddling conditions, otherwise it probably isn't wise for either to be on the water.		In a group of paddlers, the one simple way to know that everyone has someone looking out for them and to know who you are supposed to look out for is to use the buddy system. Everyone pairs up with another paddler - each buddy looks out for their buddy. In an ideal world each pair of buddies would be evenly matched speedwise making it easier for everyone to paddle in their comfort zone and to keep pace with their buddies. But the reality is that those matches do not always occur. And the paddlers with limited amounts of experience or skill really should be buddied with better paddlers so you are much less likely to wind up with buddy pairings where both paddlers get into trouble and are unable to help their buddy. At least one paddler in each buddy pair should probably be experienced and competent in the chosen paddling conditions, otherwise it probably isn't wise for either to be on the water.

-	* [[stories:choose_buddy_wisely\|Choose your buddy wisely 5/23/2017]]	+	* [[safety:choose_buddy_wisely\|Choose your buddy wisely 5/23/2017]]

	==== Best Buddy Practices ====		==== Best Buddy Practices ====

Bulgaria Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:37 +0000

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		+	* [[https://www.facebook.com/seakayakingbulgaria\|Sea Kayaking Bulgaria]] they have surfskis
	* ….		* ….

Bundeena Bay/Bar

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Tue, 02 Sep 2025 17:35:39 +0000

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-	As with other river estuaries around the world, we have noticed that they can sometimes provide exceptionally long surfing rides on occassion which are also generally more kind than beach break waves.	+	As with other river estuaries around the world, we have noticed that they can sometimes provide exceptionally long surfing rides on occassion which are also generally more kind than beach break waves.

	Mark Sundin: "This is a bit of a mystery break in some respects, it's coded as a 'novelty spot' on surf websites, which means when everything else is being obliterated by a big southerly swell or East Coast Low, it's surfable for the board riders. For a kayaker, it mostly provides the sort of gentle, barely breaking waves … They're slow, easy & as consequence-free as you ever get on a paddle craft. On a decent day however, it can be epic & every bit as demanding as a beach break."		Mark Sundin: "This is a bit of a mystery break in some respects, it's coded as a 'novelty spot' on surf websites, which means when everything else is being obliterated by a big southerly swell or East Coast Low, it's surfable for the board riders. For a kayaker, it mostly provides the sort of gentle, barely breaking waves … They're slow, easy & as consequence-free as you ever get on a paddle craft. On a decent day however, it can be epic & every bit as demanding as a beach break."

Bundeena Bay/Bar, Port Hacking Videos

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 14 Sep 2025 13:07:45 +0000

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-	[[:surfski.wiki:surfski_downwind_videos#videos_by_location\|Other Specialized Video Collections]] (unusual location or particular type of paddling conditions)	+	[[:surfski_downwind_videos#videos_by_location\|Other Specialized Video Collections]] (unusual location or particular type of paddling conditions)

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Burrows Bay

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:38 +0000

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-	On the south side of Anacortes - may funnel large swell into its bay on large swell days, but provide cleaner waves and no tidal current resistance….(may need some south in the wind pushing swell into Burrows?, we have looked at this on a big west wind day and the bay did not have much in terms of clean waves or swell - but could see using island lees to get to gaps where west waves were bigger). The shoreline parks (Tugboat, Cabana) near Skyline Marina seem to be posted as private, but next to Cabana Park, maps show Cabana Ln. Water Access - which may be the most likely public access. Some of this land seems to have signs posted for shoreline restoration - so at a minimum please be respectful and as low impact as possible if you launch there (and let us know of anything you discover about public access to the water here.)	+	On the south side of Anacortes - may funnel large swell into its bay on large swell days, but provide cleaner waves and no tidal current resistance….(may need some south in the wind pushing swell into Burrows?, we have looked at this on a big west wind day and the bay did not have much in terms of clean waves or swell - but could see using island lees to get to gaps where west waves were bigger). The shoreline parks (Tugboat, Cabana) near Skyline Marina seem to be posted as private, but next to Cabana Park, maps show Cabana Ln. Water Access - which may be the most likely public access. Some of this land seems to have signs posted for shoreline restoration - so at a minimum please be respectful and as low impact as possible if you launch there (and let us know of anything you discover about public access to the water here.) The wind shadows of the islands to the west can cause the wind and waves in the Bay to be somewhat spotty according to local wingfoilers.

	* [[:burrows_bay_2_1_2020\|Burrows Bay Potential 2/1/2020]]		* [[:burrows_bay_2_1_2020\|Burrows Bay Potential 2/1/2020]]

Burrows Bay Potential

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:38 +0000

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	+
	+	**Burrows Bay last Saturday (Feb 1)\\
	+	Dan Mahar** \\
	+	Feb 4 #25991
	+
	+	Deception pass videos looked amazing from last Saturday. I was in Skyline (Anacortes) at the time, where there were some beautiful smooth swells pumping in from the straits. Skyline is at the north end of Burrows Bay and protected from the westerlies coming off the straits by Allen and Burrows islands. Consequently the swell is cleaner. I documented the story on video ending with a shot of some surfers at the south end Alexander beach. I moved here recently and am looking forward to finding some SUP surf. Love to see more surfskis, OC, and SUPs around here. The paddling in this area is fantastic.
	+
	+	Instragram:\\
	+	[[https://www.instagram.com/p/B8HjmTwnkV_/\|https://www.instagram.com/p/B8HjmTwnkV_/]]
	+
	+	FB:\\
	+	[[https://www.facebook.com/dan.mahar.73/videos/vb.100001261280937/2899671096751571/?type=2&theater\|https://www.facebook.com/dan.mahar.73/videos/vb.100001261280937/2899671096751571/?type=2&theater]]
	+
	+	Here's a video on an earlier trip to Alexander beach for find swell and surf.\\
	+	Instagram:\\
	+	[[https://www.instagram.com/p/B3D8iDZguc6/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link\|https://www.instagram.com/p/B3D8iDZguc6/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link]]
	+
	+	Paul Reavley \\
	+	Feb 4 #25992
	+
	+	Thanks Dan,
	+
	+	Any info you can post on decent launch sites and any heads ups on likely favorable swells will be appreciated. Google maps seems to show some parking at Alexander Beach - is that accurate?
	+
	+	Paul
	+
	+	Dan Mahar \\
	+	Feb 5 #25993
	+
	+	[[https://surfski.wiki/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=downwind:burrowsbay.jpg\|{{ :downwind:burrowsbay.jpg?direct&359x400 \|burrowsbay.jpg}}]]
	+
	+	Paul,
	+
	+	The only public beach access is on the west side of the Skyline marina. Park on road. Looks like they are developing lots there but nothing actually being built. Walk around lots to the beach. There is a road down to Alexander marked De Mar Pvt. I’m not sure if the surfers ask permission but they do park at the beach at the bottom of the road.
	+
	+	I was thinking loops out of Skyline. Hug the lee shore of the islands then jet into the swell at the south end of Allen Island. It’s about a six mile loop
	+
	+	Paul Reavley \\
	+	Feb 5 #25994
	+
	+	That looks promising. In your first post about Skyline you mentioned a nice swell on Saturday - when my impression was that the wind at Deception was primarily W. Naturally I will be curious about what wind directions will work for a swell to develop like you reported in Burrows Bay. Does a swell built from the west tend to curl around into the bay? Will a good swell tend to develop with any other variations of wind into Burrows - SW, S, SE, etc.? Was the ebb tide that morning also in play in building the swell?
	+
	+	I looked around at all of the webcams I could find and found nothing pointed into Burrows Bay. So I guess we are just going to have to visit the Bay and check it in various conditions. Thanks for the beta.
	+
	+	Dan Mahar \\
	+	Feb 6 #25997
	+
	+	The swell is generated by a solid westerly with significant fetch in the Straits of Juan de Fuca. Saturday morning the wind switched at 7 am from S to a solid W (think 20+ knots). After 5-6 hours of solid westerlies the swell forms. It’s chaotic at Deception and on Whidbey because the swell is mixed with wind chop. I know because I’ve windsurfered out of Chief Joseph Whidbey park a number of times on big westerlies. When the swell hits Allen island and turns into Burrows bay it cleans up in the lee of Allen and Burrows islands. It cleans up by dissipating the wind chop and forms smooth long linear swells. The kind surfers like.
	+
	+	Not sure tidal flux makes much difference in Burrows bay because there is not much tidal current unless you get into the pinch points between Allen and Burrow or Burrow and Skyline. In these pinch points it can often rip at 4 knots. I’ll give more reports as I dial this place in.
	+

Sitting Pain - Butt, Glutes, Hamstrings, etc.

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:38 +0000

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Buying Kayaks in the digital world

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:39 +0000

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	+
	+	Bob Putnam \\
	+	03/04/11 #10189
	+
	+	Here's a funny story I thought I would share….it all happened yesterday between 5 and 7 PM\\
	+	There is a great photo circulating around the internet of Matt Bouman busting through a wave, on a Epic V10 Elite somewhere in South Africa. Deep Cove paddler Warren Bruce is sitting in a bar in [[:mexico\|Baja, Mexico]], enjoying a post paddle margarita and perusing Facebook. He sees this photo and thinks, Hmmm, its about time I got a new lightweight Epic surf ski. Emails me in Vancouver to inquire about availability. I tell him that I only bring in Elite skis that are pre-ordered, and my shipment may have already left China, but I'll check. I email Vince at Epic headquarters in Charlotte, South Carolina. Vince thinks that there maybe chance we can do it, he'll call one of the Chinese factory workers, who we'll call "Wu" and see. Vince gets back to me and says Wu can do it but we have to take one ski off the order to get one on. I email Warren who is now on his 4th margarita, and feeling pretty good, but his conservative nature says, to wait. I admonish him, saying that life is too short to be paddling a heavy surf ski and think about this cross global chain of events that he has set in motion. Warren says he'll have another margarita and think about it. Warren emails me back and says, "What the Heck, I'm returning to Vancouver just for the Tuesday Night Paddlesport Races in Deep Cove." I call Vince, Vince calls Wu, bing, bang bong, Warren has a brand new V10 Elite en-route to Vancouver. Should be here in 3 weeks. Imagine trying to get that done 10 years ago.
	+
	+	Watch out for Warren this year, he's fit and will be paddling a faster ski!\\
	+	Bob
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	03/04/11 #10190
	+
	+	Oh yeah? Well LG said that Warren is a weenie and that there's no way WB is getting to the finish line ahead of LG.
	+
	+	I'll back my guy: I'll bet $20 cash that LG can finish faster than WB in any regular race with one catch: the proceeds go to BBOP (Bellingham Bay Outrigger Paddlers). Basically, I'm willing to donate your money to BBOP if I'm right. If I'm wrong, I donate $20 of my own money to BBOP.
	+
	+	Are you down with this Mr Putnam? (I can only cover one bet without trouble in the home - if you know what I mean.)
	+
	+	This is a new wrinkle on the international challenge. These are two great guys with major chops and anything can happen. I think it's fun to play 'paddler cage-fight' for money.
	+
	+	rd
	+
	+	Bob Putnam \\
	+	03/04/11 #10193
	+
	+	OK RD your on, with one change, If warren wins you donate to BFBABB. Beer's for Bob at Boundary Bay!!! Who are you going to beat? Wish I could make it to the race this weekend. Still XC skiing up here.\\
	+	Bob
	+
	+	Larry Goolsby \\
	+	03/04/11 #10194
	+
	+	Geezus RD, Shaun came back from Mexico with stories about how Warren smoked all the surfskiers, outriggers, kite boarders, fishing boats, whales, and pot. I have paddled maybe six times this winter and this guy paddles twice a day. Hope you don't hate me when your sitting in Boundary Bay watching Bob eat. Now you'll know why they refer to him as 'The Canadian Wonder'. Everybody wonders where he learned table ettiquette.\\
	+	LG
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	03/04/11 #10197
	+
	+	Hmm. I'm thinking. I'm not sure I can beat anybody.
	+
	+	Unless maybe you drink twenty bucks worth of beer and we race within the next 30 minutes.
	+
	+	And maybe I'm throwing my good buddy under a bus. LG has not climbed out of his cave very much and Warren has been living like a 20-something surfski bum.
	+
	+	Bob you will not get to sample my cookies tomorrow. They will become the stuff of legend after the race. You'll know because of all the racers walking around the northwest with chocolate-chip stains on their smiles.
	+
	+	It's gonna be a good one tomorrow.\\
	+	rd
	+
	+	Jeff Hegedus <jhegedus@…> \\
	+	03/05/11 #10198
	+
	+	Yeah but LG has an erg in that cave, and Warren is gonna' need that new V10 Elite.
	+
	+	warren bruce \\
	+	03/05/11 #10199
	+
	+	I did what now??\\
	+	I vaguely remember seeing some photo of a V10 on my facebook page and if Bob says it happened then I guess I bought one.\\
	+	Better put down the tequila and pick up the paddle…
	+

buying_wetsuits

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Cabrillo Run

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:39 +0000

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	In doing this run for nearly 10 years, I have been involved in nearly every conceivable mishap; heed the following advice. Check your cables and rudder set up, this run puts a lot of stress on your rudder-system, make sure it is on point to keep you on point. Leashes are necessary, bring it and use it! Bring 1 extra paddle for every 3 paddlers, not only is it possible to break a paddle, but in these conditions it is possible to lose a paddle on a change or on a rest break. Bring a phone, put it in a case with you, in a pack, or pocket. Marine radios are also recommended; we bring at least 1 radio and have the strongest paddler carry it with them. Lastly, PFD’s are needed, rubber one to your back iako. Other safety equipment may include zip-ties, small tools, and extra line or rubber. These items will become useful upon major equipment failures. Better to have them than to be left wishing you brought them. It is best to do the run in pieces, we stop at every opening in the breakwater, Angel’s gate is first, Queen’s gate is next, and the east end of the breakwater is last. We stop to gather all paddlers, and make a head count to make sure no-one is left behind. Try to stay on similar lines, this make’s it easy to keep track of all paddlers. \\ \\ </WRAP>		In doing this run for nearly 10 years, I have been involved in nearly every conceivable mishap; heed the following advice. Check your cables and rudder set up, this run puts a lot of stress on your rudder-system, make sure it is on point to keep you on point. Leashes are necessary, bring it and use it! Bring 1 extra paddle for every 3 paddlers, not only is it possible to break a paddle, but in these conditions it is possible to lose a paddle on a change or on a rest break. Bring a phone, put it in a case with you, in a pack, or pocket. Marine radios are also recommended; we bring at least 1 radio and have the strongest paddler carry it with them. Lastly, PFD’s are needed, rubber one to your back iako. Other safety equipment may include zip-ties, small tools, and extra line or rubber. These items will become useful upon major equipment failures. Better to have them than to be left wishing you brought them. It is best to do the run in pieces, we stop at every opening in the breakwater, Angel’s gate is first, Queen’s gate is next, and the east end of the breakwater is last. We stop to gather all paddlers, and make a head count to make sure no-one is left behind. Try to stay on similar lines, this make’s it easy to keep track of all paddlers. \\ \\ </WRAP>
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California Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Mon, 05 Jan 2026 17:17:17 +0000

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		+	* [[http://www.oceanpaddlesports.com\|Ocean Paddlesports]]
		+	* [[info@oceanpaddlesports.com\|info@oceanpaddlesports.com]]
	* [[http://www.newportoutriggercanoe.club/\|Newport Beach Outrigger Club]]		* [[http://www.newportoutriggercanoe.club/\|Newport Beach Outrigger Club]]
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	* Epic Test Center Kenny Howell - Call to Schedule 230 Princeton Ave., Half Moon Bay, CA 94019, +17276661419 [[kenny.howell@epickayaks.com\|kenny.howell@epickayaks.com]]		* Epic Test Center Kenny Howell - Call to Schedule 230 Princeton Ave., Half Moon Bay, CA 94019, +17276661419 [[kenny.howell@epickayaks.com\|kenny.howell@epickayaks.com]]
-	* Ocean Paddlesports 21177 Rural Lane Costa Mesa, CA 92627 Fenn, Carbonology Surfskis, Accessories, Lessons, Rentals	+	* Ocean Paddlesports 21177 Rural Lane Costa Mesa, CA 92627 Fenn, Carbonology Surfskis, Accessories, Lessons, Rentals
	* [[http://www.oceanpaddlesports.com\|Ocean Paddlesports]]		* [[http://www.oceanpaddlesports.com\|Ocean Paddlesports]]
	* [[info@oceanpaddlesports.com\|info@oceanpaddlesports.com]]		* [[info@oceanpaddlesports.com\|info@oceanpaddlesports.com]]

California Sea Lion

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:39 +0000

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	John Rybczyk \\		John Rybczyk \\
-	05/23/16 #19342	+	05/23/16 #19342

-	I saw a big ole California Sea Lion sitting out on the number two buoy this evening during an early evening paddle. We usually only see the harbor seals around these parts, sea lions less commonly, but I once saw an elephant seal in the water in Hale’s Passage. That was quite a shock. When I got home I took a look at the new web cam and I could still see it (the sea lion) out there (Image embedded here I think), although there’s no way to tell from the picture without ground truthing. Keep an eye out, they usually hang around for a few days.	+	I saw a big ole California Sea Lion sitting out on the number two buoy this evening during an early evening paddle. We usually only see the harbor seals around these parts, sea lions less commonly, but I once saw an elephant seal in the water in Hale’s Passage. That was quite a shock. When I got home I took a look at the new web cam and I could still see it (the sea lion) out there (Image embedded here I think), although there’s no way to tell from the picture without ground truthing. Keep an eye out, they usually hang around for a few days.

	Reivers Dustin \\		Reivers Dustin \\
-	05/23/16 #19346	+	05/23/16 #19346

-	woah. elephant seal is a thing to see from a kayak. I discovered a very great difference in 'threat aspect' from you looking at them to them looking at you. ...rd	+	woah. elephant seal is a thing to see from a kayak. I discovered a very great difference in 'threat aspect' from you looking at them to them looking at you. …rd
		+
		+	David Scherrer \\
		+	05/25/16 #19357
		+
		+	Great day for a downwind paddle........Plus the added surprise of finding the sea lion sitting atop the swaying Post Point buoy...I would guess it weighs over 1000 lbs. Amazing!
		+
		+	David S.

Camano Island, WA

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:40 +0000

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		+	* [[:stories:utsalady_la_connor_2023\|2023 Utsalady to La Conner]]

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Canada Surfski

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		+	* ...
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Canada Downwind/Paddle Videos

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Canadian Downwind Champs 2018

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:40 +0000

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	+	===== Canadian Downwind Champs 2018 =====
	+
	+	**Race Report?\\
	+	David Scherrer** \\
	+	07/14/18 #23457
	+
	+	OK So how did it all turn out today. Wind?
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	07/15/18 #23462
	+
	+	it was a long day for little reivers. Took my skinny boat, needed it. Forgot brain, needed it. I did my usual and went wide left looking for … love in all the wrong places. I took a whuppin at the run out to the hot spot. all the other barnacles were ahead of me. I gained a little going wide left at first, but as the wind eased I got real lonely out there. When I swung into the point I could see all my drinking pals up there. Fair amount of boat chop and white colored water as usual in the last basin near the river.
	+
	+	I had caught up enough to not pay long distance charges as we entered the river stretch. A weird thing: I heard a power boat coming up behind so I moved left to give room in the channel. Seemed like it took forever for the powerboat to catch me up. Eventually I could see the bow on my right, seemed to be pacing me. Cool. I muscled up so they could see how fast I was going. After a minute or so of this I got suspicious. I looked over behind the boat and here was a surfski wake riding. Just laying on his paddle grinning like a mad man. I got grumpy and yelled at them. They broke it up. And of course the well rested guy sprinted by me at the finish. Ok, not really a giant upset in the world order. I just kinda wished that kid hurt as much as I do from the race. Oh well.
	+
	+	The Duncan van was a hoot. Steve drove like someone who has logged a million miles with immature paddlers and expensive boats. ELana was awesome boat wrangler and cat herder. Mark W. was top dawg of our old barnacle gang. Anna S. won money, so did Jonas. Check results on webscorer. The kids were amazing. Steve and Abby had their hands full with some other monster doubles. Here's the thing. you know it was a flat day when Greg B. beats Dawid Mocke.
	+
	+	My butt hurts like I sat in a steel tractor seat for a couple hours. But I got this really neato hat.
	+
	+	rd
	+
	+	Duncan Howat \\
	+	07/15/18 #23463
	+
	+	Well boys and girls, wind builds at the gorge starting monday afternoon and keeps cranking up at least to fri. Lots of 25 + days.. Good for us fat heavy guys. and water temp may hit 70 with little flow. Oh boy the real deal./ D
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	07/15/18 #23464
	+
	+	Oh, I forgot: Duncan got called out at awards for being in a class by himself. Pretty cool. Don't know what you call it when you graduate from being an old barnacle. The dude is showing us the way.
	+
	+	rd
	+
	+	Nicholas Cryder \\
	+	07/15/18 #23466
	+
	+	My take: Drove up Friday afternoon to beat the traffic, and was absolutely beaten down at the border (1.5 hours!). Up at 4am Saturday to go set up the Faster Farther pop up store with help from Wilson who met me at 7am to help me deploy the Crakken (thanks Wilson!!!). Pre Race was dialed, Bob runs a very well oiled machine… and wow it would be hard to organize an event of this scale.
	+
	+	Much broader group in attendance, and numbers were visibly up. A great sign of things to come. The wind however did not make the registration deadline and was off someplace else for the day. It was hot, and flat… and hot.
	+
	+	At the start I was able to line up with Sean Rice and Ian Black, and was just so impressed with the explosive power off the line. Managed a decent start and stayed in the top 20 or so to the can. Went by Oscar before we hit the chop and then couldn’t believe my ears when I heard a ski surfing up next to me obviously on a runner. When I saw the bow of the Yellow Nelo I thought “how the hell is Oscar surfing this?!” And then I realized he was on the support boat’s wake, which I was all to happy to grab as well for a couple of rides as it zoomed by the field.
	+
	+	Around the can I linked up with Taneal and Oscar went way left. T and I worked different lines and diced evenly for a good 30 minutes in small, slow moving water. But we lost a little ground on Oscar, maybe 30 seconds. At the big rock Sam Mathew and Rachel Clarke caught up to us and there was some aggressive close proximity (read paddle bashing) that took place. Sam boosted up and made contact with Oscar and I started to fall apart. The heat zapped me and I bonked soooo bad and struggled to keep the ski moving. After paddling in slow motion the last mile, Gareth Tudor Jones and Ian Daykin caught me right before the line and I was just on empty and couldn’t contest the sprint. Shocked to still make top 20 and the masters podium after coming totally unglued. It was the hardest Can Champs I’ve done, and it made me realize how insanely hard a flat Molokai would be.
	+
	+	The venue was terrific as always (food, beer and fun people), and also fun to see our locals place so well despite the uptick in attendance. Huge thanks to everyone who stopped by the FF store and a thrill to see you all wearing the kit on the water. Magic indeed!
	+
	+	See y’all in the Gorge, we’ll have some special edition Gorge dryfit shirts for sale… forecast is already making me insanely happy!
	+
	+	Cryder
	+
	+	dnjacobson79 \\
	+	07/16/18 #23469
	+
	+	Nice race report and congrats getting third behind Taneal & Rachel
	+
	+	Nicholas Cryder
	+
	+	07/16/18 #23470
	+
	+	That’s hilarious DJ! Good one! Sally was 3rd, and first Canadian. All three are miles ahead of me in class and speed, and just incredible athletes that I really admire.
	+
	+	**Canadian Downwind Champs recap video.\\
	+	Bob Putnam** \\
	+	08/04/18 #23604
	+
	+	Who was the Bellingham paddler interviewed in this video? Better watch and find out. Thanks to those who supported this event with your attendance.\\
	+	[[https://vimeo.com/283114839?utm_source=email&utm_medium=vimeo-cliptranscode-201504&utm_campaign=29220\|Canadian Champs Vid]]
	+

Canadian Downwind Champs Thanks

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:40 +0000

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	+
	+	Bob Putnam \\
	+	07/11/19 #25198
	+
	+	I just wanted to say thanks to some great people of the Bellingham Community.
	+
	+	Nicholas Cryder - Thanks Faster/Farther for AGAIN designing and supplying great t-shirts for athletes and volunteers. A very comfortable synthetic Cotton with a great design. Your passion for the sport is much appreciated. Thanks for bringing the tees and a the new wave of Bellingham champs (Wilson and Jonas) to the TNR.
	+
	+	Paul Clement - Thanks for supplying category awards, and sponsor thank you plaques. Also thanks for delivering them to TNR.
	+
	+	Scoggins - For shuttling some Epic Surfskis around for me!!
	+
	+	Epic Customers: Thanks for the business and for choosing Epic Kayaks and Paddles. I'll have some demos for sale in Hood River after the Gorge Race.
	+
	+	Thanks to all of you who are participating. Without participants its not much of a race. Many of you have participated in many of the races and now the Iron Men list is complete with Marc Whitlock, Larry B and Dean B. Better late than never LB and DB!!
	+
	+	It should be a great day on Saturday.
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	07/13/19 #25204
	+
	+	Back at you Bobbie. You've got good people doing the set up, great venue, nice layed-back vibe. I had a good day up there today.
	+
	+	That mad scramble out to the first mark is really humbling. I expect problems from the prevailing broadside waves, and the big animals in the first wave throw some wake. The thing that bakes my paddle is the committee boat pacing the lead pack at the perfect speed for maximum wake and this wake is placed in the middle of the pack that is crashing paddles with each other. Where I am. With my fantasy self image going off like wet paper mache'. Not that I'm complaining. Same water for everyone. Probably good to throw the puppies in the deep end so you can weed the non-floaters right away.
	+
	+	Nicely done with conditions. Really liked the mid-race swell. I busted 10mph top speed which is rare for me. One other thing, because of the vibe you have going, I found myself talking to many of the visiting paddle people. It was a hoot. For example, there was a nice contingent of paddlers from Ottawa. Who'd a thunk it.
	+
	+	allipp@… \\
	+	07/14/19 #25205
	+
	+	Hey Josh, since you weren't there, I put it on my shoulders to beat Bob P. Lo and behold, I realized that the ski in front of me, appearing to falter in the slop outside the channel, was Bob. I was trying to figure out if I should just hang back and draft him to the finish then pass him, or do a blow by and risk him jumping on my wake and riding me to the final showdown.
	+
	+	I opted for the blow by, and he was unable to jump on my wake in the slop. As an added bonus, it ended up being for a podium finish in the 50-59 division!
	+
	+	josh dyck \\
	+	07/14/19 #25207
	+
	+	Alan, I really appreciate you taking this on since I wasn’t able to make it! Congrats on your podium finish. See you all in the Gorge!\\
	+	Josh
	+

Surfski Ironmen

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:40 +0000

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	+	Bob Putnam \\
	+	07/06/19 #25150
	+
	+	This year we are going to acknowledge the Surfski Iron Men. Guys who have participated in every Canadian Downwind Champs, that's 6 now!!
	+
	+	Making the list from Bellingham is Marc Whitlock. Bumstead and Bussinger would have made this list if they signed up this year. But I guess its the end of an Era.
	+
	+	Have you seen the 2019 Canadian Champs Faster/Farther race shirts
	+
	+	CDC Surfski Ironmen\\
	+	Antanavicius, Linas
	+
	+	Hammer, Wes
	+
	+	Hulscher, Sean
	+
	+	Lowe, Ian
	+
	+	Martin, Shane
	+
	+	Redman, Greg
	+
	+	Remmler, Darryl
	+
	+	Rice, Kenny
	+
	+	Rice, Sean
	+
	+	Schulz, Graham
	+
	+	Whitlock, Marc
	+
	+	\\
	+	MARC ROBERTA WHITLOCK \\
	+	07/06/19 #25151
	+
	+	I believe Bumstead and Bussinger are attending. I'm traveling with LB there so I hope they register soon. They're certainly Ironmen.
	+
	+	allipp@... \\
	+	07/06/19 #25152
	+
	+	I just talked to Dean today and he said he was racing. I guess he didn't get the memo about the early sign up discount!
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	07/06/19 #25153
	+
	+	Can we have a leatherman category?
	+
	+	David Scherrer \\
	+	07/06/19 #25154
	+
	+	Whoa, what about surfski Iron woman!
	+
	+	Dean Bumstead \\
	+	07/07/19 #25155
	+
	+	Darn, I thought I registered......it’s tough being a barnacle. Hopefully it’s not to late.\\
	+	Dean\\
	+	\\
	+	Bob Putnam \\
	+	07/07/19 #25156
	+
	+	Sadly No 6 x woman participants
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger \\
	+	07/07/19 #25157
	+
	+	I am signed up this year!! Or at least i was!
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger
	+
	+	07/07/19 #25158
	+
	+	I don’t see a 70+ category on the registration site. Is there a hidden category?
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger
	+
	+	allipp@...
	+
	+	07/07/19 #25159
	+
	+	Confirmation list. I see an OC1 Legend division, but no one signed up in surfski. Nor do I see your name anywhere Larry.
	+
	+	https://www.webscorer.com/registerlist?raceid=162110
	+
	+	Bob Putnam \\
	+	07/07/19 #25160
	+
	+	I’ll create one especially for you. Glad you’re signing up. iron man!
	+

Canary Islands Surfski

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-	Not to be confused with [[:tarifa\|Tarifa]]. Both are Spanish, but Tenerife is one of the Canary Islands approx. 1600 km southwest of Tarifa. Tarifa is the southernmost point in mainland Spain.	+	Not to be confused with [[:tarifa\|Tarifa]]. Both are Spanish, but Tenerife is one of the Canary Islands, approx. 1600 km southwest of Tarifa. Tarifa is the southernmost point of mainland Spain.

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Canary Islands Race Reports

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-	===== 2021 ICF World Champs Race =====	+	* [[:icf_world_championships_racereports#lanzarote_canary_islands_spain\|2021 ICF World Champs Race]]
-		+	* ...
-	* [[https://youtu.be/Rlvkl8xgKdg\|Race Video]]	+
-	* [[https://www.aaronvonbeinke.com/downwinddreams/canoeworldchampionchips2021\|Aaron Von Beinke (Sweden) Report]]	+
-	* [[:icf_worlds_surfski_2021\|Whatcom Paddlers - Ana Swetish 2nd Overall Open Womens Category]]	+

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Canary Islands Downwind/Paddle Videos

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Cape Recife, South Africa

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		+	* ...
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Cape Verde Surfski

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-	Cape Verde, is an archipelago and island country in the central Atlantic Ocean, consisting of ten volcanic islands.	+	Cape Verde, is an archipelago and island country in the central Atlantic Ocean, consisting of ten volcanic islands. Independence from Portugal was attained in 1975. Cape Verde (Republic of Cabo Verde) is the farthest south grouping of volcanic islands in the Macaronesian ecoregion (Canary Islands, Azores, Madeira, Savage Islands, and Cape Verde)

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Cape Recife Surfing Videos

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		+
		+	[[:south_africa\|Main South Africa Page]]

	[[:cape_recife\|Main Cape Recife Surfski Page]]		[[:cape_recife\|Main Cape Recife Surfski Page]]

Car Top Wash Water

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-	==== BUILD OPTION FOR END CAP DEVICES: ====	+	==== Build Option For End Cap Devices: ====

	* The end cap gets a Schrader valve, shut-off valve and relief valve. (Update: I have never used the dang Schrader valve – why did I bother?) This stuff is all a tight fit on a four-inch end cap. They are also hard to make a solid pressure tight seal. Remember to install such that backing nuts, washers, etc that are inside the end cap allow clearance for you to install the end cap onto the pipe correctly.		* The end cap gets a Schrader valve, shut-off valve and relief valve. (Update: I have never used the dang Schrader valve – why did I bother?) This stuff is all a tight fit on a four-inch end cap. They are also hard to make a solid pressure tight seal. Remember to install such that backing nuts, washers, etc that are inside the end cap allow clearance for you to install the end cap onto the pipe correctly.
	* Option A (my version): Drill the holes undersize and then cut threads into the plastic ABS. I could not find proper tapping die, so I used a shop trick: took some scrap pipe fittings and cut slots in the threads so I could use these to tap threads into the plastic. This is tricky. I didn’t get the threads straight on the first try and when I pressure tested the final assembly it leaked. (Had to cut the thing off and have a little re-do.)		* Option A (my version): Drill the holes undersize and then cut threads into the plastic ABS. I could not find proper tapping die, so I used a shop trick: took some scrap pipe fittings and cut slots in the threads so I could use these to tap threads into the plastic. This is tricky. I didn’t get the threads straight on the first try and when I pressure tested the final assembly it leaked. (Had to cut the thing off and have a little re-do.)
	* Option B: use “Bulkhead Fittings”, sometimes called Tank Fittings. These make a really dependable seal through vessel wall material. It’s a more sure thing, but this will cause the fittings to extend a little further out from the end of the pipe. I could not find any in town. There are plenty on-line. You might have trouble getting these to all fit in the one end-cap. They normally take a bit more room for gaskets and interior thread. One other advantage to these is that if there’s a problem with a fitting, it’s an easy re-fit. If you did Option A, you get to cut the end cap off and rebuild from scratch.		* Option B: use “Bulkhead Fittings”, sometimes called Tank Fittings. These make a really dependable seal through vessel wall material. It’s a more sure thing, but this will cause the fittings to extend a little further out from the end of the pipe. I could not find any in town. There are plenty on-line. You might have trouble getting these to all fit in the one end-cap. They normally take a bit more room for gaskets and interior thread. One other advantage to these is that if there’s a problem with a fitting, it’s an easy re-fit. If you did Option A, you get to cut the end cap off and rebuild from scratch.
-	==== MATERIALS (Option A version): ====	+	==== Materials (Option A version): ====

	* ABS straight pipe, 4-in, schedule 40: typical in 10-ft lengths. I cut a 6 ft length and two one-foot lengths. I ended up with about 7-ft total pipe volume.		* ABS straight pipe, 4-in, schedule 40: typical in 10-ft lengths. I cut a 6 ft length and two one-foot lengths. I ended up with about 7-ft total pipe volume.
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-	==== PHOTOS ====	+	==== Photos ====

	{{:equipment:cartopwasher:oncarfromfront.png?direct&\|View from front on car top}}		{{:equipment:cartopwasher:oncarfromfront.png?direct&\|View from front on car top}}

Caribbean Island Surfski

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-	2025 Ze Race - Guadeloupe photo: [[https://youtu.be/HIbbWBXon7E\|Pierre Villela video]]	+	2025 Ze Race - Guadeloupe photo: [[https://youtu.be/HIbbWBXon7E\|Pierre Vilella video]]

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	* [[https://www.cruisingworld.com/destinations/understanding-west-indies-wind/\|Understanding Caribbean Island (West Indies) Wind]]		* [[https://www.cruisingworld.com/destinations/understanding-west-indies-wind/\|Understanding Caribbean Island (West Indies) Wind]]
-	* ...	+	* …

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VHF radio users where to carry them?

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:42 +0000

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		+
		+	[[:emergency_signal_devices\|Emergency Signal Devices]]

	Mike Mauch \\		Mike Mauch \\

Notify Rescue Service When You Are Out of Danger

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:42 +0000

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		+	===== Radio Holsters =====

	michaelwood \\		michaelwood \\

Cayman Islands Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:42 +0000

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		+	* ...

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Ceuta Surfski

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		+
		+	See also [[:spain#melilla\|Melilla]]

	Ceuta is an autonomous Spanish City located at the northernmost tip of Morocco.		Ceuta is an autonomous Spanish City located at the northernmost tip of Morocco.
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Shortening Paddle Length (permanent change to adjustable paddle)

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Fri, 26 Dec 2025 14:24:58 +0000

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-	(Ed. //Quick Blade has several videos on changing paddle length on youtube. e.g. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-0QLgNzWII\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-0QLgNzWII]] the principles are generally the same. One thing you want to remember with an adjustable wing paddle is to make marks before cutting that will allow you to restore the blade alignment with the existing feather marks on your paddle)//	+	(Ed. //Quick Blade has several videos on changing canoe paddle (single blade) length on youtube. e.g. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-0QLgNzWII\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-0QLgNzWII]] the principles are generally the same for wing paddles. One thing you want to remember with an adjustable wing paddle is to make marks before cutting that will allow you to restore the blade alignment with the existing feather marks on your paddle, or similarly with a fixed wing paddle, make marks that will let you keep the feather the same as before unless you are also changing the feather also)//

Charleston, SC

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:43 +0000

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	Charleston is located on the US East Coast and provides access to popular coastal and inland paddle waterways.		Charleston is located on the US East Coast and provides access to popular coastal and inland paddle waterways.
		+
		+	<WRAP indent>

	===== Downwinds & Paddles =====		===== Downwinds & Paddles =====

Chile Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sat, 21 Mar 2026 18:37:25 +0000

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-	* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKAG5k8yvNA&list=PLuykg4We5c_APrTAtIzqoSyHM9dDJKul7\|Surfski TV Central & South America Youtube Playlist]]	+	* [[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuykg4We5c_APrTAtIzqoSyHM9dDJKul7\|Surfski TV Central & South America Youtube Playlist]]
-	* ...	+	* …

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China Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sat, 21 Mar 2026 18:51:51 +0000

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	* [[:hong_kong#videos\|Hong Kong Videos]]		* [[:hong_kong#videos\|Hong Kong Videos]]
		+	* [[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuykg4We5c_ALqSZkwT9zjEFo_ktLaRoS\|Surfski TV Asia Youtube Playlist]]
	* …		* …

Rethinking my cold weather attire. Opinions needed.

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:43 +0000

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-	//Editor's comment// - my experience with Farmer Johns (particularly those with zippers) does not match John's. John is an experienced surfer, so maybe he has tested his Farmer John during extended swims. My own experience (rivers) is that they provide too much flow through the zippers and top during extended immersions in cold water, to make me feel safe for a long swim during a downwinder in the colder part of the year in Bellingham Bay. Bottom line - test it and make sure you have the level of protection you need for being in the water a while. That requirement should trump any other comfort concern.	+	//Editor's comment// - my experience with Farmer Johns (particularly those with zippers) does not match John's. John is an experienced surfer, so maybe he has tested his Farmer John during extended swims. My own experience (rivers) is that they provide too much flow through the zippers and top during extended immersions in cold water, to make me feel safe for a long swim during a downwinder in the colder part of the year in Bellingham Bay. Bottom line - test it and make sure you have the level of protection you need for being in the water a while. That requirement should trump any other comfort concern. If the additional top added to the Farmer John actually reduces flow through adequately then maybe you'll be okay

	Dale McKinnon \\		Dale McKinnon \\

Clothing - In Between Conditions

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sat, 17 Jan 2026 16:46:09 +0000

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	Before you rely too heavily on these styles for warmth you should test them in the conditions you intend to use them in. Farmer Johns/Janes can be deceptive - providing a fair amount of warmth while you are dry, but providing surprisingly little protection when wet or submerged particularly if they are the style with long zippers - often such zippers and/or the suits simply allow too much rapid water entry and exit to slow heat loss. If paired with a snug top, water flow-thru rate can be reduced.		Before you rely too heavily on these styles for warmth you should test them in the conditions you intend to use them in. Farmer Johns/Janes can be deceptive - providing a fair amount of warmth while you are dry, but providing surprisingly little protection when wet or submerged particularly if they are the style with long zippers - often such zippers and/or the suits simply allow too much rapid water entry and exit to slow heat loss. If paired with a snug top, water flow-thru rate can be reduced.

-	* Giant Fish USA [[https://giantfish.us/\|Main site]] Paddle shorts, Windshirt top, (spring 2024 new Bib overall - similar to farmer john)	+	* <del>Giant Fish USA</del><font inherit/inherit;;#e74c3c;;inherit>(Out of Business Jan. 2026)</font> Paddle shorts, Windshirt top, (spring 2024 new Bib overall - similar to farmer john)
	* Mocke SA Lookup [[https://mockepaddling.com/\|Main Site]] lookup Equinox vest		* Mocke SA Lookup [[https://mockepaddling.com/\|Main Site]] lookup Equinox vest
	* NRS USA		* NRS USA
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	===== Lighter Weight Pants and Tops =====		===== Lighter Weight Pants and Tops =====

-	* [[https://giantfish.us/\|Giant Fish]] Oregon, USA lightweight tops and bottoms, limestone neoprene, designed for paddlers - new company as of 2020 - shorts, pants 1.5 mm and 3 mm (really for colder conditions) and tops 2 mm.	+	* <del>Giant Fish</del><font inherit/inherit;;#e74c3c;;inherit>(Out of Business Jan. 2026)</font> Oregon, USA lightweight tops and bottoms, limestone neoprene, designed for paddlers - new company as of 2020 - shorts, pants 1.5 mm and 3 mm (really for colder conditions) and tops 2 mm.
	* [[https://www.hellyhansen.com/en_us/catalogsearch/result/?q=wetsuit&ct=autosuggest_suggestion\|Helly Hansen]] Norway a small variety usually aimed toward non-immersion with flat-locked seams, but occassionally higher end wetsuits with better seam sealing		* [[https://www.hellyhansen.com/en_us/catalogsearch/result/?q=wetsuit&ct=autosuggest_suggestion\|Helly Hansen]] Norway a small variety usually aimed toward non-immersion with flat-locked seams, but occassionally higher end wetsuits with better seam sealing
	* Mocke Equinox South Africa - [[https://mockepaddling.com/search?q=equinox&options[prefix]=last\|Equinox Options]]		* Mocke Equinox South Africa - [[https://mockepaddling.com/search?q=equinox&options[prefix]=last\|Equinox Options]]

Clothing - Cold Conditions

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Wed, 03 Dec 2025 14:27:34 +0000

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	Judging by the significant number of serious downwinding videos from Scandinavia where paddlers are wearing drysuits, those folks have clearly come to terms with strenuous paddling in drysuits. Beyond the obvious tips for cooling down, we hope we will get more insight from those paddlers about how they manage temperature with drysuit paddling.		Judging by the significant number of serious downwinding videos from Scandinavia where paddlers are wearing drysuits, those folks have clearly come to terms with strenuous paddling in drysuits. Beyond the obvious tips for cooling down, we hope we will get more insight from those paddlers about how they manage temperature with drysuit paddling.

-	* [[:drysuits\|Drysuits, Semi-Drysuits, Paddle Suits]]	+	* [[:drysuits\|Drysuits, Semi-Drysuits, Paddle Suits]]
		+	* [[https://paddlingmag.com/gear/drysuit-guide/\|Drysuit Guide from a Whitewater Paddler]]
	* [[:s_wendelboe_cold_weather_clothing_choice\|Norwegian Paddler's Advice (Prefers Drysuit for Winter Paddling) ]]		* [[:s_wendelboe_cold_weather_clothing_choice\|Norwegian Paddler's Advice (Prefers Drysuit for Winter Paddling) ]]
	* …		* …

Clothing - Warm Conditions

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Tue, 10 Feb 2026 20:22:55 +0000

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	* Head Protection		* Head Protection
-	* [[https://sunprotectionaustralia.com/adapt-a-cap/\|Adapt-a-cap]]	+	* [[https://sunprotectionaustralia.com/search?q=adapt+a+cap&_pos=1&_psq=adapt&_ss=e&_v=1.0\|Adapt-a-cap]]
	* Bump Hats a little more impact protection		* Bump Hats a little more impact protection
	* [[https://thekooklab.com/products/breakwater-trucker-1\|Breakwater Trucker]] $$$		* [[https://thekooklab.com/products/breakwater-trucker-1\|Breakwater Trucker]] $$$
	* [[https://www.ergodyne.com/search?prod_drupal_commerce_products[query]=skullerz bump\|Skullerz]]		* [[https://www.ergodyne.com/search?prod_drupal_commerce_products[query]=skullerz bump\|Skullerz]]
-	* ******** [[https://www.vaikobi.com/search?q=bump+hat&type=product\|Vaikobi Bump Hats]]	+	* **** [[https://www.vaikobi.com/search?q=bump+hat&type=product\|Vaikobi Bump Hats]]
	* [[https://kayakfari.wordpress.com/tech/the-end-of-sunburn-my-total-uv-block-solution/\|Kayakfari Nose, Ears UV Block Solution]]		* [[https://kayakfari.wordpress.com/tech/the-end-of-sunburn-my-total-uv-block-solution/\|Kayakfari Nose, Ears UV Block Solution]]
-	* [[https://bxgear.com/product/peeko-copy/\|Peeko Mask]]	+	* [[https://bxgear.com/product/peeko-copy/\|Peeko Mask]]
	* [[https://paddling.com/gear/paddling-clothing/kayak-clothing/kayak-hats/\|Paddling.com Hat List]]		* [[https://paddling.com/gear/paddling-clothing/kayak-clothing/kayak-hats/\|Paddling.com Hat List]]
	* [[https://www.sheltahats.com/\|Shelta Hats]] (range of sun protection clothing)		* [[https://www.sheltahats.com/\|Shelta Hats]] (range of sun protection clothing)

Coaching

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 15 Mar 2026 13:26:57 +0000

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-	* [[:technique:coaching:2016_icf_coaching_manual\|ICF Ocean Racing Coaching Manual]] This 2016 manual assembled by Dawid Mocke with a large list of contributors can suggest some of the knowledge and skills you should expect a surfski paddling coach to provide even if you are not interested in racing. Be cautious with the included survey of relative/recommended safety equipment. This was a worldwide poll and included paddlers who paddle little if at all in [[:cold_water_paddling\|cold water]] and also paddlers who do not paddle where there are reliable rescue services using VHF. Your priorities might need to be high also for equipment like a [[:emergency_signal_devices#vhf_radios\|VHF radio]] if it makes more sense where and how you paddle. The [[:technique:coaching:2016_icf_coaching_manual"#page=21"\|list of contributors at the end of the document]] may include someone who coaches in your vicinity or who can recommend a good local coach.	+	* [[:technique:coaching:2016_icf_coaching_manual\|ICF Ocean Racing Coaching Manual]] This 2016 manual assembled by Dawid Mocke with a large list of contributors can suggest some of the knowledge and skills you should expect a surfski paddling coach to provide even if you are not interested in racing. Be cautious with the included survey of relative/recommended safety equipment. This was a worldwide poll and included paddlers who paddle little if at all in [[:cold_water_paddling\|cold water]] and also paddlers who do not paddle where there are reliable rescue services using VHF. Your priorities might need to be high also for equipment like a [[:emergency_signal_devices#vhf_radios\|VHF radio]] if it makes more sense where and how you paddle. The [[https://www.canoeicf.com/sites/default/files/icf_canoe_ocean_racing_coaching_manual.pdf#page=21\|list of contributors at the end of the document]] may include someone who coaches in your vicinity or who can recommend a good local coach.

	===== Coaches =====		===== Coaches =====

Cold Hands and Pogies

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:44 +0000

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	+	**Cutting it kind of close\\
	+	Paul Reavley** \\
	+	12:19am #28037
	+
	+	From TC Surfski
	+
	+	[[https://tcsurfski.com/2020/10/25/a-very-cold-virtual-chattajack/\|A Very Cold Virtual Chattajack]]
	+
	+	Nicholas Cryder \\
	+	9:40am #28038
	+
	+	Really similar story to what happened to Ivan Lawler on Loch Ness, of course he was downwinding and I believe it was snowing. As an example of heat bleeding out; swimmers who have been lost at sea in warm water environments like Hawaii get hypothermia eventually. Even tho the water is bath-tub warm, it's still relentlessly sucking energy away.
	+
	+	Now let's talk pogies: Any recommendations? Critique? How are remounts when it's time to thread the now cold hand back into a wet neoprene sock? I've always done thin neoprene gloves (1mil), but they get cold going upwind. When FF was healthier I was working on a glove with 2 mil top side, and a .5 bottom (thick gloves at the grip cause hand pump / tendon strain).
	+
	+	Nicholas Cryder
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	1:20pm #28039
	+
	+	I have proly four pairs of pogies. I tried gloves and felt miserable with them. My favorite pogies are neoprene shorties. I think these are from Sierra Trading post and they are intended for white water. The cuff ends just about where my wrist bends. They aren't enough when it's mid-30's and below.
	+
	+	I have some NRS Mamba pogies. Fleece lining, just a bit too long in the wrist, but I can deal with it.
	+
	+	All my other pogies are bothersome long in the wrist. I've done a trick where I rolled the cuff a couple of times with an electrician's zip-tie inside. This stiffens the cuff so it stays expanded. It's a workaround.
	+
	+	What Nicholas is talking about is a big deal. I've dumped in the cold and after remount doing that little struggle with getting hands into the pogies is, in the words of Roseanne Rosanna Danna: "Really Really Stupid!"
	+
	+	One other thing: based on a clue from LB: keep the salt out. I used to get cuts and abrasions on my thumbs and knuckles. Since I've been careful to rinse the salt out of the pogies, not so much.
	+
	+	OK, now somebody else say something…
	+
	+	Edward \\
	+	4:18pm #28040
	+
	+	I have not used neoprene pogies since switching to nylon a few years ago. They may not be quite as warm as neoprene but they keep my hands warm enough. I like them because they don't get heavier as they get wet. Pay so much for one paddle that is lighter than another only to throw it away with water logged pogies.
	+
	+	Eddie
	+
	+	James Schulz \\
	+	4:45pm #28041
	+
	+	I use Snapdragon hypalon pogies. The Hypalon is water repellant so they don’t get heavier when wet and are super stiff so its easy to stab your hand back into them. So there’s no evaporative cooling. Super warm but not the lightest.
	+
	+	[[https://www.snapdragondesign.com/sdd-product/hyper-hands/\|https://www.snapdragondesign.com/sdd-product/hyper-hands/]]
	+
	+	Jim
	+
	+	Rick Lingbloom
	+
	+	9:06pm #28042
	+
	+	My hands get super cold just hiking in cool weather. But … I started using nylon poggies a few years ago. I’ve worn them down into the teens and been just fine. They can be completely iced over and my hands still stay warm. They are SO much lighter than neoprene. Relatively easy to reinsert hands into. I’ve heard about some people inserting something like a long zip tie into the hem at the wrist to keep them open if that is a concern. I highly recommend them!
	+
	+	Rick L
	+
	+	zach \\
	+	6:52am #28043
	+
	+	Pogies are great. They do not need to be super thick because the hand is in a compact position with the fingers all touching each other. The downside of pogies is that they offer no protection if your hands are in the water. Immersed in ice water your hands only have a few minutes until they have no dexterity or strength whatsoever. Bigger hands last longer than smaller hands. But once the hands are cooled too much to function, they are not able to hold a paddle or rope or anything else to save one’s life. So that is the downside of pogies. If you end up immersed in frigid water for whatever reason you have very little time. Personally i use pogies on flat water but gloves or mitts downwind. I find they feel funny for about 5 minutes before I get used to them.
	+

Cold Water Clothing Choices

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:44 +0000

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-	//Editor's note: Farmer johns have been the source of some disagreement in various discussions. My own personal experience in wearing farmer johns over many years on many rivers leads me to this - be very careful in relying on them for immersion protection. They may work quite well in making you comfortable in your boat and allowing some heat regulation while you are not IN the water. But that may lull you into overestimation of their performance during immersion. The farmer johns I have worn over the years always allowed significant water circulation once i was immersed and provided little long term protection for extended immersion in water as cold as we have in Bellingham Bay. You don't agree? Please prove it with carefully safeguarded timed immersions (not just 30 seconds - how does 5 minutes, 10 minutes… feel?) - I would love to be given the specifics of exceptions to my opinion that we can publish here on surfski.wiki. And we really, really do not want to hear about mishaps that prove my opinion about farmer johns to be correct. If you have a tight top you can wear over a farmer john that significantly mitigates water flush thru during immersion and you have tested and proven this - we also want to know about it….D.Hooper reports testing and using a [[:hoopers_cold_weather_paddle_wear\|full wetsuit over a farmer john]] in the winter...//	+	//Editor's note: Farmer johns have been the source of some disagreement in various discussions. My own personal experience in wearing farmer johns over many years on many rivers leads me to this - be very careful in relying on them for immersion protection. They may work quite well in making you comfortable in your boat and allowing some heat regulation while you are not IN the water. But that may lull you into overestimation of their performance during immersion. The farmer johns I have worn over the years always allowed significant water circulation once i was immersed and provided little long term protection for extended immersion in water as cold as we have in Bellingham Bay. You don't agree? Please prove it with carefully safeguarded timed immersions (not just 30 seconds - how does 5 minutes, 10 minutes… feel?) - I would love to be given the specifics of exceptions to my opinion that we can publish here on surfski.wiki. And we really, really do not want to hear about mishaps that prove my opinion about farmer johns to be correct. If you have a tight enough top you can wear over a farmer john that significantly mitigates water flush thru during immersion and you have tested and proven this - we also want to know about it….D.Hooper reports testing and using a [[:hoopers_cold_weather_paddle_wear\|full wetsuit over a farmer john]] in the winter…//

	Tyler Irwin		Tyler Irwin

Cold Water Immersion

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:44 +0000

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-	kathleen petereit \\	+	kathleen petereit (Vancouver Island paddler)**** \\
	09/24/13 #14913		09/24/13 #14913

Cold Water Paddling

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Thu, 04 Dec 2025 13:08:43 +0000

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	* [[:stories:lawler_loch_ness\|Ivan Lawler's Brush with Cold Incapacitation in the Great Glen Challenge]]		* [[:stories:lawler_loch_ness\|Ivan Lawler's Brush with Cold Incapacitation in the Great Glen Challenge]]
	* [[https://tcsurfski.com/2020/10/25/a-very-cold-virtual-chattajack/\|Billy Belinger's 4hr Back Country River Race in Cold Conditions]] Losing Coordination (Paddle stroke catching crabs, etc.)		* [[https://tcsurfski.com/2020/10/25/a-very-cold-virtual-chattajack/\|Billy Belinger's 4hr Back Country River Race in Cold Conditions]] Losing Coordination (Paddle stroke catching crabs, etc.)
-	* Impairment of Judgment (in the overlap with hypothermia) is particularly problematic because your ability to recognize and respond to this problem is hindered by this very problem. If you do not react and make decisions while you still have the ability to do so (primary example - calling for help via whatever means available) those options effectively disappear.	+	* Impairment of Judgement (in the overlap with hypothermia)is particularly problematic because your ability to recognize and respond to this problem is hindered by this very problem. If you do not react and make decisions while you still have the ability to do so (primary example - calling for help via whatever means available) those options effectively disappear.
	- Hypothermia (watch [[https://youtu.be/_cm03Vb632I\|Richard Forbes video]] (framed above) [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothermia\|Hypothermia]] has its own stages typically defined by ranges of body temperature and evidenced by symptoms. Symptoms in individuals vary at body temperatures depending on age, fitness, body fat, etc. Stage 1 (mild hypothermia) can overlap with Cold Incapacitation, but stage 1 also begins to involve cognition impairment which contains significant risk for paddlers and only gets worse with subsequent stages. If you do not make good decisions early (ask or call for help?) while you are still thinking clearly all these risks will compound.		- Hypothermia (watch [[https://youtu.be/_cm03Vb632I\|Richard Forbes video]] (framed above) [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothermia\|Hypothermia]] has its own stages typically defined by ranges of body temperature and evidenced by symptoms. Symptoms in individuals vary at body temperatures depending on age, fitness, body fat, etc. Stage 1 (mild hypothermia) can overlap with Cold Incapacitation, but stage 1 also begins to involve cognition impairment which contains significant risk for paddlers and only gets worse with subsequent stages. If you do not make good decisions early (ask or call for help?) while you are still thinking clearly all these risks will compound.
	- Post Rescue Collapse (also termed "Circum Rescue Collapse" because it has been observed shortly before, during and after rescue Once rescued, after you have been immersed in cold water, you are still in danger from collapse of arterial blood pressure leading to cardiac arrest.		- Post Rescue Collapse (also termed "Circum Rescue Collapse" because it has been observed shortly before, during and after rescue Once rescued, after you have been immersed in cold water, you are still in danger from collapse of arterial blood pressure leading to cardiac arrest.

cold_weather_safety_guards

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Tue, 10 Mar 2026 13:06:16 +0000

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	4. Life vest: for winter I have a life vest with 100N buoyancy. It is cheap and does the job, also re ergonomics, and when floating in the water, the 40N+ make a huge difference. What these things usually are missing are pockets. So if you find a way to store your emergency stuff nevertheless, this could be something that could prolong your survival time beyond the said 2 hours.\\		4. Life vest: for winter I have a life vest with 100N buoyancy. It is cheap and does the job, also re ergonomics, and when floating in the water, the 40N+ make a huge difference. What these things usually are missing are pockets. So if you find a way to store your emergency stuff nevertheless, this could be something that could prolong your survival time beyond the said 2 hours.\\
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-	5. Just a provocative suggestion: if your region allows for it, try to view surfski as a summer sport. Do not go out alone when water is below 20 degrees (//Celsius//), and do not go out at all below 15 degrees (//Celsius//). Get over your addiction and try to do something else when conditions are dangerous. I know that for the more Northern locations this advice is not practicable, but pals living there might still try the other options. (//Editor - we don't follow this guideline at the suggested temperatures in Bellingham, WA, USA (nor do paddlers in many other cool to cold locations) because it would preclude our going out on the water even in our summers, but a number of factors can and should enter into the decision about when it is okay to go on the water and when it is not for an individual and many of our locals have their own temperature limits of water and air below which they will stay on land. We suspect this suggestion was made from a mindset of a paddler not used to using significant, modern cold weather clothing (thicker wetsuits, drysuits) in their kit - e.g. wetsuits having improved for paddling in the years since this incident and subsequent discussion//).	+	5. Just a provocative suggestion: if your region allows for it, try to view surfski as a summer sport. Do not go out alone when water is below 20 degrees (//Celsius//), and do not go out at all below 15 degrees (//Celsius//). Get over your addiction and try to do something else when conditions are dangerous. I know that for the more Northern locations this advice is not practicable, but pals living there might still try the other options. (//Editor - we don't follow this guideline at the suggested temperatures in Bellingham, WA, USA (nor do paddlers in many other cool to cold locations) because it would preclude our going out on the water even in our summers, but a number of factors can and should enter into the decision about when it is okay to go on the water and when it is not for an individual and many of our locals have their own temperature limits of water and air below which they will stay on land. We suspect this suggestion was made from a mindset of a paddler not used to using significant, modern cold weather clothing (thicker wetsuits, drysuits) in their kit - e.g. wetsuits having improved for paddling in the years since this incident and subsequent surfski.info discussion//).

Colorado Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Tue, 23 Sep 2025 16:18:10 +0000

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		+	* [[https://localkitespots.com/kitesurfing/Colorado\|Colorado Kitesurfing Map]]
		+	* Reddit Discussion [[https://www.reddit.com/r/wingfoil/comments/1kx4la5/wingfoiling_in_colorado/\|Wingfoiling in Colorado]]
	* Grand Lake		* Grand Lake
-	* [[https://youtu.be/2WGJgJaUt-c\|foil video]]
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	==== Flatwater ====		==== Flatwater ====

-	* [[https://www.alltrails.com/us/idaho/paddle-sports\|Alltrails Best Idaho Paddle Trails]]	+	* [[https://www.alltrails.com/us/colorado/paddle-sports\|Alltrails Best Colorado Paddle Trails]]
	* [[https://www.supboardguide.com/best-places-to-paddleboard-in-the-united-states-idaho/\|Good SUP Paddle Outings]]		* [[https://www.supboardguide.com/best-places-to-paddleboard-in-the-united-states-idaho/\|Good SUP Paddle Outings]]
	* ….		* ….
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	* [[https://windy.app/forecast2/spot/599868/Grand+Lake+Colorado\|Grand Lake Wind Forecast]] (windy.app)		* [[https://windy.app/forecast2/spot/599868/Grand+Lake+Colorado\|Grand Lake Wind Forecast]] (windy.app)
-	* ...	+	* …

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	===== Rentals/Lessons/Clubs =====		===== Rentals/Lessons/Clubs =====

-	* [[https://www.facebook.com/groups/idahopaddling/posts/10157932986091969/\|Idaho Canoe Club]]	+	* [[https://www.google.com/search?q=canoe+clubs+colorado&ie=UTF-8\|Colorado Canoe Clubs]] these will typically be for whitewater, but you might run into a surfskier?
	* …		* …

comments_billyb_leash

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:45 +0000

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	+	**ALAN CLARK\\
	+	09/30/13 #14970 **
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	+	Erik,\\
	+	The system looks pretty bomber, but the carabiner pictured would be a bit problematic around salt-water.The springs don't last very long, even on the marine versions. There are some good safety hooks on safety tethers used on offshore sailboats, but they are very pricey. I might go with a snap shackle in place of the "biner". There are some good options in the on-line West Marine catalog. I'd probably get one with a swivel so that the line wouldn't kink. Wash the system down with fresh water between uses.
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	+	Alan
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	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	09/30/13 #14971
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	+	This is genius. Ive been wondering how to get off the double leash system - wrinkles to work out:
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	+	1) In extremes the mid-boat anchor point can be hell due to boat sail effect. 2) There needs to be a way to disconnect under load. (Carabiner would require slack). My favorite alternative to caribiner here is a brass or SS clasp hook. Its a swivel eye and two opposing hooks that close 'over-center' so it won't open under strain or twist action. But the action uses a little lever thingy. Not sure cold hands could work it loose under duress.
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	+	\\
	+	I bought a kite-board leash with very sly quick-release. Unfortunately too many hypothermic brain cells prevent me from jiggering it up in a system I really trust.
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	+	\\
	+	loosing rudder, boat or paddle is ghost-buster bad (like crossing the streams of their bug-zapper things). loosing brain cells? no biggie. i got some more around somewhere ....
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	+	rd
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Comparing Beginner Surfskis

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 24 Aug 2025 17:59:17 +0000

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-	* [[:surfskis\|Main Surfski Page]]	+	* [[:surfskis\|Main Choosing a Surfski Page]]
	* [[:surfski_tables#beginner_surfskis\|Beginner Surfski Spec Table with Reviews]]		* [[:surfski_tables#beginner_surfskis\|Beginner Surfski Spec Table with Reviews]]
	* [[:ski_makers\|Surfski Companies]]		* [[:ski_makers\|Surfski Companies]]

Safety Innovation? Downwind Group Speaker Calls

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:45 +0000

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	Nicholas Cryder \\		Nicholas Cryder \\
-	Oct 17 #27841	+	Oct 17 #27841

	Just putting a new idea out for discussion that I hit on recently for downwinding groups; conference calls on speaker.		Just putting a new idea out for discussion that I hit on recently for downwinding groups; conference calls on speaker.

-	Yes, this sounds absurd - but I recently tried it and was surprised how effective it is. The gist is that many of our modern phones are water resistant or waterproof, and now loud enough to be very legible even inside a zip lock bag. Most folks I know are on unlimited plans... so if you have a mesh front pocket on your PFD and you wear it high on your chest (recommended btw), you can start a group call, drop it in and off you go. It's crazy, but you can stay in hands-free audio contact the entire paddle (without hearing the paddle grunts).	+	Yes, this sounds absurd - but I recently tried it and was surprised how effective it is. The gist is that many of our modern phones are water resistant or waterproof, and now loud enough to be very legible even inside a zip lock bag. Most folks I know are on unlimited plans… so if you have a mesh front pocket on your PFD and you wear it high on your chest (recommended btw), you can start a group call, drop it in and off you go. It's crazy, but you can stay in hands-free audio contact the entire paddle (without hearing the paddle grunts).

-	Keeping tabs visually in big conditions can be extremely hard to do, and many times we paddle on different lines based on comfort level skill or at much different speeds. If someone does take a swim and you don't see it happen, you may not know for several minutes... but if they remount easily quickly there is no need to stop the rest of the group. If however said swimmer is rattled, struggling or dealing with a mechanical, the faster the rest of the group knows, the better the outcome. If you wonder why I am kinda nerdy on this stuff; I am the guy who has broken two paddles, three footboards, snapped rudder lines three times, broke a leash and even lost a rudder on different downwind runs over the years.	+	Keeping tabs visually in big conditions can be extremely hard to do, and many times we paddle on different lines based on comfort level skill or at much different speeds. If someone does take a swim and you don't see it happen, you may not know for several minutes… but if they remount easily quickly there is no need to stop the rest of the group. If however said swimmer is rattled, struggling or dealing with a mechanical, the faster the rest of the group knows, the better the outcome. If you wonder why I am kinda nerdy on this stuff; I am the guy who has broken two paddles, three footboards, snapped rudder lines three times, broke a leash and even lost a rudder on different downwind runs over the years.

	Disclaimer: I am not advocating group calls for every downwind paddle, but in situations where you have either a speed or skill disparity, you want to coach someone, a bigger group or conditions are at your threshold; this may be handy. So just putting this out there for others to try - let me know if this works for you too, and maybe we'll do a tutorial video and spread the word.		Disclaimer: I am not advocating group calls for every downwind paddle, but in situations where you have either a speed or skill disparity, you want to coach someone, a bigger group or conditions are at your threshold; this may be handy. So just putting this out there for others to try - let me know if this works for you too, and maybe we'll do a tutorial video and spread the word.
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-	Oct 17 #27842	+	Oct 17 #27842

	Thanks Nicholas,		Thanks Nicholas,

Conversions (Temperature, Speed, Distance,...)

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:45 +0000

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-	* **1 mph = 0.868976 knots [e.g. 10 mph ~= 8.69 knots]**	+	* m/s = meters per second, knts = knots, mph = miles per hour, km/h or kph** = kilometers per hour**
-	* 1 mph = 0.44704 m/s	+	* mph & m/s
-	* 1 meter/second (m/s) = 2.237 mph [e.g. 10 m/s = 22.37 mph]	+	* mph = 2.237 * m/s
-	* **1 meter/second (m/s) = 1.944 knots**	+	* m/s = 0.44704 X mph
-	* **1 knot = 1.15078 mph**	+	* knts & m/s****
-	* 1 knot = 0.514444 m/s	+	* knts = 1.944 * m/s
		+	* m/s = 0.514444 X knts
		+	* mph & knts****
		+	* mph = 1.15078 X knts
		+	* knts = 0.868976 X mph\
		+	* km/h & m/s
		+	* km/h = 3.6 * m/s
		+	* *m/s = 0.27778 km/h**
		+	* knts & km/h
		+	* knts = 1.852 * km/h
		+	* *km/h = 0.539957 knts**
		+	* mph & km/h
		+	* mph = 1.60934 * km/h
		+	* km/h = 0.621371 * mph
	Temperatures		Temperatures

		+	* °F= degrees Fahrenheit, °C = degrees Celsius
	* *°F= (9/5 °C) + 32**		* *°F= (9/5 °C) + 32**
	* *°C= (°F - 32) 5/9**		* *°C= (°F - 32) 5/9**
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	* 1 mile = 1.60934 kilometers (the same conversion ratio applies for speed from mph to kmh)		* 1 mile = 1.60934 kilometers (the same conversion ratio applies for speed from mph to kmh)
-	* ****1 kilometer = 0.621371 miles (the same conversion ratio applies for speed from kmh to mph)	+	* 1 kilometer = 0.621371 miles (the same conversion ratio applies for speed from kmh to mph)

Cook Islands Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sat, 21 Mar 2026 18:56:17 +0000

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		+
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		+	===== Videos =====
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		+	* [[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuykg4We5c_AvvRvxubIvp03f5Uj-SZcS\|Surfski TV Oceania Playlist]]
		+	* ...

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Costa Rica Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sat, 21 Mar 2026 18:37:49 +0000

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-	* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKAG5k8yvNA&list=PLuykg4We5c_APrTAtIzqoSyHM9dDJKul7\|Surfski TV Central & South America Youtube Playlist]]	+	* [[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuykg4We5c_APrTAtIzqoSyHM9dDJKul7\|Surfski TV Central & South America Youtube Playlist]]
-	* ...	+	* …

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Croatia Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sat, 06 Dec 2025 17:27:04 +0000

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	* [[http://www.kajak.hr/\|Croatian Canoe Federation]]		* [[http://www.kajak.hr/\|Croatian Canoe Federation]]
		+	* [[https://www.facebook.com/search/groups/?q=croatia\|Facebook Croatia Groups]]
	* [[https://www.facebook.com/surfski.croatia\|Surfski Croatia Facebook]] //<font inherit/inherit;;#d35400;;inherit>offline in 2024</font>//?		* [[https://www.facebook.com/surfski.croatia\|Surfski Croatia Facebook]] //<font inherit/inherit;;#d35400;;inherit>offline in 2024</font>//?
	* [[https://www.surfskifun.com/\|SurfskiFun]] (based in Balatonfüred, Hungary) Surfski Camps in Croatia		* [[https://www.surfskifun.com/\|SurfskiFun]] (based in Balatonfüred, Hungary) Surfski Camps in Croatia

Paddling Cross Beam Videos

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Mon, 17 Nov 2025 18:24:41 +0000

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-	[[:sweden_downwinders#southwest\|Skälderviken, Sweden ]]- Leif Davidsson: “very technical paddling and most of the time crossing waves”	+	[[locales:sweden:sweden_downwinders#southwest\|Skälderviken, Sweden ]]- Leif Davidsson: “very technical paddling and most of the time crossing waves”

	{{youtube>E_gngtpim1Y?large&start=170}}		{{youtube>E_gngtpim1Y?large&start=170}}

Nicholas Cryder's Cold Weather Clothing Choices

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Tue, 15 Jul 2025 17:54:14 +0000

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	[[:decision_trees_wear\|Deciding What to Wear for Cold Water]]		[[:decision_trees_wear\|Deciding What to Wear for Cold Water]]
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		+	[[:bellingham\|Bellingham, WA Page]]

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Nicholas Cryder: Feather

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:47 +0000

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	+	====== Nicholas Cryder: Feather ======
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	+	(Originally posted on surfski.info)
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	+	===== Feather =====
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	+	I'm going to.... say that I am NOT in the zero feather camp. Having worked with paddlers who have attempted this approach, I have noticed nearly universally sloppy catch and a host of connection issues related to a general lack of core engagement (no tripod). I am of the opinion that it prioritizes bracing above actually paddling, and while well intended, is a crutch that ultimately interferes with paddler progression. Zero feather paddlers progress more slowly, paddle more slowly and have to unlearn very bad habits later; ironically including learning dynamic bracing (bracing to catch described in my first post). While I am not a fan of arguments from authority, I don't know of a single elite / pro racer using zero feather today, and it's not because they haven't tried it or were simply taught another way. If something can produce even a decimal point of improvement, they'll do it. I've personally experimented with it, and recorded my data. I am far more biomechanically efficient at 62º feather than I am even 45º. It drops off a cliff at 40º and beyond to zero….
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Curaçao Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:47 +0000

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-	[[:aruba\|Aruba]], [[:barbados\|Barbados]], [[:british_virgin_isles\|British Virgin Islands]],[[:cayman_islands\|Cayman ]][[:cayman_islands\|Islands]], [[:guadeloupe\|Guadeloupe]], [[:martinique\|Martinique]], [[:puerto_rico\|Puerto Rico]], [[:saint_martin_sint_maarten\|Saint-Martin/Sint Maarten]], [[:trinidad_tobago\|Trinidad & Tobago]], [[:us_virgin_isles\|US Virgin Islands]]	+	* [[:caribbean_islands\|Caribbean Islands]]
		+	* ...

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Czechia Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:47 +0000

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	* [[https://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/map.do?sw=47.941260378152286,12.200595222256709&ne=51.558739621847714,17.79940477774329&act=11&place=Czechia&page=1\|Paddle Routes]]		* [[https://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/map.do?sw=47.941260378152286,12.200595222256709&ne=51.558739621847714,17.79940477774329&act=11&place=Czechia&page=1\|Paddle Routes]]
	* [[https://www.facebook.com/Surfskicz-633528973448291/\|Surfski.cz facebook]]		* [[https://www.facebook.com/Surfskicz-633528973448291/\|Surfski.cz facebook]]
		+	* [[http://www.surfwave.cz/\|Surfwave.cz]]

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Charles Darwin's Visits to Cape Verde

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:47 +0000

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	After three weeks on Santiago, the Beagle’s captain no longer worried about Darwin’s resolve. “A child with a new toy could not have been more delighted than he was with St. Jago,” he wrote. Darwin, writing in his diary, was itching to forge ahead: “I am becoming rather impatient to see tropical Vegetation in greater luxuriance than can be seen here.”		After three weeks on Santiago, the Beagle’s captain no longer worried about Darwin’s resolve. “A child with a new toy could not have been more delighted than he was with St. Jago,” he wrote. Darwin, writing in his diary, was itching to forge ahead: “I am becoming rather impatient to see tropical Vegetation in greater luxuriance than can be seen here.”

-	When the Beaglereturned to Santiago nearly five years later, at the end of his journey, Darwin devoted only a few paragraphs in his journal to the visit — including a mention of “our old friend the great Baobab tree.”	+	When the Beagle returned to Santiago nearly five years later, at the end of his journey, Darwin devoted only a few paragraphs in his journal to the visit — including a mention of “our old friend the great Baobab tree.”

	But years later, writing his autobiography as an old man, the island shined brightly in his memory: “How distinctly I can call to mind the low cliff of lava beneath which I rested, with the sun glaring hot, a few strange desert plants growing near, and with living corals in the tidal pools at my feet.”		But years later, writing his autobiography as an old man, the island shined brightly in his memory: “How distinctly I can call to mind the low cliff of lava beneath which I rested, with the sun glaring hot, a few strange desert plants growing near, and with living corals in the tidal pools at my feet.”

David Williams Memorial race..Possible downwind course....

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:47 +0000

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	+	===== David Williams Memorial race..Possible downwind course.... =====
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	+	David Scherrer \\
	+	04/11/19 #24655
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	+	About 9 miles north/north west from the Lummi start is public access off of Gulf rd. A way to a large beach wth no development and plenty of parking. Used by many locals. No facilities, but might be a good place to take out…\\
	+	Relatively easy to get to…Get on Haxton and turn left on Slater. Go the Lake Terrel rd turn right go north to the Mountain view rd. connect to rainbow rd. Rainbow turns into Henry and henry connects to Gulf ( turn left) which takes you down to the open shoreline. I suggest you google map it…. Take a look and see what you think [[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Lummi+Island/@48.8549719,-122.7353184,4314m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x5485997cfe988633:0x787bf01c50e73d5d!8m2!3d48.6829804!4d-122.649891\|https://www.google.com/maps/place/Lummi+Island/@48.8549719,-122.7353184,4314m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x5485997cfe988633:0x787bf01c50e73d5d!8m2!3d48.6829804!4d-122.649891]]
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	+	David Scherrer
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	+	04/13/19 #24668
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	+	THIS WAS A GREAT RACE. I can only imagine that when word gets out how cool the downwind course was, that next year we will see many additional paddlers.\\
	+	Autumn Rose did a good job organizing the event. And as an additional unique treat we were served some delicious alder cooked salmon afterwards.\\
	+	And it was blowing! With Gorge like waves following us all the way from Gooseberry to Cherry Point! –Dave Williams would have loved it….\\
	+	D\\
	+	Nicholas Cryder \\
	+	04/13/19 #24669
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	+	Awesome to hear. Hope to make it out next year, life permitting.
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	+	Sounds like someone FINALLY PULLED OFF A PROPER LOCAL DOWNWIND RACE!
	+
	+	**Race report ...\\
	+	Reivers Dustin** \\
	+	04/13/19 #24670
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	+	They all said it would be good. I guess I should have listened. I had phat boat and skinny boat with me just in case. So of course I pulled the wrong boat out of the quiver. What could possibly go wrong? ...whelp... it was a phat boat day.
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	+	Short course: from Lummi Stommish grounds up to Sand Point.\\
	+	Long course: from same start up to Gulf Rd Beach. My GPS said about 10miles long course. \\
	+	Conditions: wind coming up Hale's Passage, slight ebb (flow going north with the wind) raining pre-race, but eased up later. Really rough from Sand Point up to long course finish. Best downwind situation I've seen for any Puget Sound area race.\\
	+	Race site: Acres of parking, several outbuildings for windbreak or for inside rigging in the dry. Great big wide gravel beach for launch of all boats. Big indoor area for sign-up, pre-race, post-race, lots of port-o-potties, kitchen area for food after.
	+
	+	Most of the work was by Dave Williams family. Brother, Sisters, etc. $15 per adult fee. This is the second of hopefully an annual event.
	+
	+	Start line was a struggle. Mass start for all racers. With stiff Southerly there was a ragged start and I was back quite a bit. The committee boat took a straight line ahead of the leaders up to short course finish. I knew this was trouble at Sand Point. That is shallow quite a ways out and the waves/wind would make for chunky munky. I went outside and picked up some really nice rollers out there. I saw 10's on my GPS and usually I have to write those kind of numbers on there by hand. My GPS now shows Ave Speed: 8.2mph. I'm too lazy to go that fast under my own power. I got swamped a few times and almost broached so it was a wet ride for me. I heard from Heather that her and Brandon got swamp time in their double. There was an OC-6 (unlimited) that smoked the course. We had a visiting dignitary from the Gorge. Larry Goodson showed up with his super performance Huki S1-X and smoked down all the other surfski paddlers. He told me about dicing with the OC-6. There were sections that favored the two craft differently so they had a little war going on. As they got the rollers, Larry did well. When they got into the mess near Sand Point, the OC-6 was favored. Lots of yelling and screaming back and forth. Traci C. and a friend showed up from Seattle and got more than they expected. Hehe: can you say "Training Day"? whoohaaaw! Both ladies were probably hampered by not knowing the area at all. The landmarks are sketchy and it doesn't help your focus if you're getting slapped silly by breaking waves and rebound. David and LB pounded on each other which worked out great for me. I slid past them on the outside line without any of their 'special love'. Paul C was on-form today.
	+
	+	Last but good: groovy salmon or clam chowder available for a great price. ($10 for salmon, $5 for chowder). \\
	+	Last but better: very informal setting, great people, and good bling for awards. \\
	+	Last but Best: I got a ribbon and an envelop with cash for 3rd place. I don't recall any other local race where there were cash prizes for podium finishers. My wife is thinking I'm really studly right now.
	+
	+	Hope this event gets some recognition. Since Goodson got a cash prize: party at his house.
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	04/13/19 #24671
	+
	+	I forgot about Kevin the maniac. fastest surfski in the race. But he won't be mad at me. He'll just make me carry my own boat back to the start next time. oops, sorry Kev. Thx for the trailer & van back from finish. \\
	+	Kevin Olney
	+
	+	04/13/19 #24672
	+
	+	It’s a bit of ‘lightning in a bottle’ to pull off the epic downwind race. You set a date, get your organization in place and then, if you are super lucky, you might get good wind (but not too much) at exactly the right time. And hopefully nobody dies.
	+
	+	I’m thankful for Autumn Rose and crew for pulling it off. I had an absolute blast! Great competitive field and awesome conditions.
	+
	+	Also, there’s items were orphaned in my van:\\
	+	Pair of red straps\\
	+	Colorful towel\\
	+	Red Vaikobi PFD
	+
	+	allipp@... \\
	+	04/13/19 #24673
	+
	+	Fast times. I didn't have my GPS, but based on a 10 mile course, which Google distance calculator confirmed, Kevin averaged 6:24, Heather and Brandon 6:30, and Joel and I 6:33 per mile. That's cooking!
	+
	+	David Scherrer
	+
	+	04/13/19 #24674
	+
	+	Good looking deck……..
	+
	+	Michael Lee \\
	+	04/13/19 #24675
	+
	+	Well, 2 of the 3 items are mine - the towel and the vest. Let me know if I can swing by and grab them tomorrow.
	+

Deception Pass' beauty is awesome, but it can give boaters, divers the willies

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	+	Eric Sorenson
	+
	+	[[https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20020729&slug=deception29m\|Seattle Times Article 2002]]
	+
	+	The first time he dived the depths of Deception Pass, Rob Holman saw how Washington state's most popular park gets downright spectacular beneath its roiling surface. Burgundy, pink and white anemones and sea urchins bigger than dinner plates lined the underwater canyon. On his second dive, Holman felt the pass's dark side. A sudden upwelling dragged him 40 feet toward the surface. Charts consulted before the dive said the current would soon change directions. It didn't. He and his diving partner, low on air, surfaced and spent an hour swimming against the current to their starting point. "It was not our finest moment," he said.
	+
	+	Of all that Deception Pass offers — riotous tide pools, old-growth giants, the most photographed bridge in the state — the heart of the pass is the rocky notch through which flows some of the fastest, trickiest and most dangerous currents of our inland sea. These beautiful, beguiling waters have drowned swimmers, tossed kayakers and weakened the knees of even experienced skippers. Cargo-burdened tugs and low-powered sailboats refuse to chance the passage in all but the small window of a slack tide. At a peak flow of nearly nine knots, 2 million cubic feet of water pour through Deception Pass per second. That's eight times the average flow of Washington's mighty Columbia River. It's more than 50 times the average flow of all the rivers emptying into Puget Sound.
	+
	+	Without the scouring currents of the pass, sediments from the nearby Skagit River would have so filled in the Sound to the east that one might have been able to walk from Camano Island to Whidbey Island, said Ralph Haugerud, a research geologist for the U.S. Geological Survey at the University of Washington.Deception Pass, which sits at the narrow end of the big bathtub of Puget Sound, focuses and redirects the sloshing of the tides in ways that the people who make tide charts have yet to fully understand. Four times a day, the waters of Saratoga Passage and the Strait of Juan de Fuca try to shoulder their way through the pass. Actually, it's two passes, Canoe, at about 50 feet across, and the 500-foot-wide main channel, Deception, separating Whidbey and Fidalgo islands.
	+
	+	The pass, now crossed by a 186-foot-high span, is a dramatic showcase of awesome and unique natural forces. Where much of what we see in nature is driven by the sun, from photosynthesizing plants to our winds and rains, the pass is driven largely by the moon and its gravity and the island geography that turns it into a powerful sluice. John Aydelotte is more succinct. "It's a river," he said. As the owner of Vessel Assist Northwest, Aydelotte has spent a quarter-century pulling ill-fated boats and spooked scuba divers from the pass. He claims to have transited it more than any man alive. "That little bitty short passage, if you think of it like a river and go with it, it will flush you out," he said. "If you're going agin' it, you have to row like hell."
	+
	+	A week ago Sunday, he came to the rescue of a boater who let a guest pilot through Canoe Pass, where their boat was brusquely beached. "People scared, boat sinking, calling Mayday," is how Aydelotte describes it. "It was a substantial crash," he said. "It hit hard enough that the cabin separated where it meets the deck."
	+
	+	Geologists have yet to nail down what ancient acts made the pass. A fault may be involved. Water, possibly from flows beneath the last ice sheet or tidal currents, did the carving. It would have taken only a few thousand years — water is that powerful. "Hey, look at the Grand Canyon," explains Dave Norman, assistant state geologist. "That's all water cut. Water cuts through a lot of things."
	+
	+	The sculpted canyon is not only beautiful to take in, but the pass itself is so unexpected that it fooled early explorers. The namesake deception lay in Capt. George Vancouver's thinking that Whidbey Island was a peninsula. He named the island for his assistant, Joseph Whidbey, who was standing nearby at the time, and named the pass Deception.
	+
	+	Pass' hydraulic action
	+
	+	The currents can be credited in large part to the tides, the daily bulging of the planet's waters as they are pulled by the sun and moon's gravity and the centrifugal force of the Earth's rotation. Tidal currents are usually more subtle affairs, but the labyrinth of Puget Sound focuses them in several spots, the most noticeable being Deception Pass. Only the Tacoma Narrows, with a peak tidal current of less than six knots, comes close.
	+
	+	There are more than just tides at work. As a flood tide's twice-daily wave rolls through the Strait of Juan de Fuca, it can take a relatively straight route to the pass by shooting across the top of Whidbey Island. But some current also slips around the island's southern end and up Saratoga Passage. When that tidal surge arrives at the island's north end, the pass effectively becomes a moderator between two different tides, one from the west and one from the east. It becomes both hydraulic and tidal, said Kathy Newell, a UW oceanographer. "Because of that lag in time, it sets up a difference in water level," she said, demonstrating how the water pulses through the pass by using a fiberglass model built to study the Sound's currents. "It can be as much as a 4½-foot difference between the inside and outside of Deception Pass."
	+
	+	The difference in water levels is barely visible, but it creates a dramatic and powerful "waterfall effect," shooting water through the pass, said Richard Strickland, a UW oceanography lecturer. As a result, a strict reading of a tidal-height chart, versus a tidal-current chart, can be deceiving. The chart might tell you when high or low tide is occurring, but the slack tide won't come until the water level is even on both sides of the pass. That can happen as much as 90 minutes later, said Strickland. Meanwhile, an unwitting diver, who can reasonably be expected to swim no faster than a knot, could be carried off by up to three knots of current pushing toward Lopez Island or La Conner. "In some places, maybe there never is a slack," said Strickland, who uses the pass to teach Oceanography 101 students about tides. "There's enough eddies and heterogeneity in the flow through there that you have to take the concept of slack with a grain of salt. The whole thing doesn't come to a complete halt and then start up again."
	+
	+	Add the potential for a storm and you've got one wild stretch, said Bill Overby, now entering his 20th year as ranger of Deception Pass State Park. "At 8 or 9 knots, it is ripping," he said as he recently piloted a 19-foot skiff with a 140-horsepower engine out of Coronet Bay east of the pass. "I'm not going to say it is Class V rapids, but there's plenty of white water for you, plenty of water activity: whirlpools, eddies, some of that stacking stuff." Add a storm surge, he said, and the waves through the pass can hit 10 feet. Then the pass that acts like an unpredictable river resembles a raging sea.
	+
	+	Eric Sorensen can be reached at 206-464-8253 and esorensen@seattletimes.com.

Race Report: DP Spring Race

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	Kevin Olney \\		Kevin Olney \\
-	Apr 24 #29084	+	Apr 24 #29084

	Rob Casey has been busting some moves in the racing scene this year. Already with two Seattle lake races in the books, he hosted a race today in Skagit Bay drawing 40+ paddlers and rowers. Additionally, he has races scheduled for May 8 (Shelton), June 13 (PA, reviving the Juan de Fuca downwind) and others as the season progresses. Awesome stuff!		Rob Casey has been busting some moves in the racing scene this year. Already with two Seattle lake races in the books, he hosted a race today in Skagit Bay drawing 40+ paddlers and rowers. Additionally, he has races scheduled for May 8 (Shelton), June 13 (PA, reviving the Juan de Fuca downwind) and others as the season progresses. Awesome stuff!
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	There was awesome food provided by Kau Kau Corner in Oak Harbor and Brian Flannelly won a jet boat tour.		There was awesome food provided by Kau Kau Corner in Oak Harbor and Brian Flannelly won a jet boat tour.

-	https://www.webscorer.com/racedetails?raceid=239166	+	[[https://www.webscorer.com/racedetails?raceid=239166\|https://www.webscorer.com/racedetails?raceid=239166]]

	Dan Mahar \\		Dan Mahar \\
-	Apr 25 #29085	+	Apr 25 #29085

	I was out on an eSUP filming off the SW corner of Hope Island. Below is a link to the YouTube video. It’s got Egor and Kevin battling it out, the double OC not far behind and Fiona flying by way ahead in the SUP division. It finishes out with Rob Casey on safety watch as one of the last contestants rounds the corner and gets swept homeward on the ebb current. Way to go everyone!		I was out on an eSUP filming off the SW corner of Hope Island. Below is a link to the YouTube video. It’s got Egor and Kevin battling it out, the double OC not far behind and Fiona flying by way ahead in the SUP division. It finishes out with Rob Casey on safety watch as one of the last contestants rounds the corner and gets swept homeward on the ebb current. Way to go everyone!

-	https://youtu.be/x0dq55K8aVo	+	<del>[[https://youtu.be/x0dq55K8aVo\|https://youtu.be/x0dq55K8aVo]] </del>no longer available

	Az \\		Az \\
-	Apr 25 #29086	+	Apr 25 #29086

	Thanks, Dan, those SUPs were flying fast water!		Thanks, Dan, those SUPs were flying fast water!

What to Wear for Cold Water

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	* [[:stories:unexpected_consequences\|Too Cold and Too Tired to Remount Seattle]] Dec. 2014		* [[:stories:unexpected_consequences\|Too Cold and Too Tired to Remount Seattle]] Dec. 2014
	* [[:stories:lawler_loch_ness\|Ivan Lawler Choosing the Wrong Surfski and the Wrong Clothing for Cold Scotland Race]] 2020?		* [[:stories:lawler_loch_ness\|Ivan Lawler Choosing the Wrong Surfski and the Wrong Clothing for Cold Scotland Race]] 2020?
-	* [[https://tcsurfski.com/2020/10/25/a-very-cold-virtual-chattajack/\|Billy Belinger's 4hr Back Country River Race in Cold Conditions]] Oct. 2020	+	* [[https://tcsurfski.com/2020/10/25/a-very-cold-virtual-chattajack/\|Billy Belinger's 4hr Michigan Back Country River Race in Cold Conditions]] Oct. 2020
	* [[:stories:coastguard_rescue_12_11_2022\|Bellingham Coast Guard Rescue]] Dec. 2022		* [[:stories:coastguard_rescue_12_11_2022\|Bellingham Coast Guard Rescue]] Dec. 2022
	* [[:stories:coastguard_rescue_safety_lessons#dan_s_water_clothing_and_immersion\|What the Paddler Was Wearing]]		* [[:stories:coastguard_rescue_safety_lessons#dan_s_water_clothing_and_immersion\|What the Paddler Was Wearing]]

Denmark Surfski

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	* Liseleje - Gilleleje 25+ km		* Liseleje - Gilleleje 25+ km
	* Glyngøre-Sillerslev 12 km [[https://www.onadventure.dk/blog/71055-downwind-surfski-glyngoere-sillerslev\|description with video]]		* Glyngøre-Sillerslev 12 km [[https://www.onadventure.dk/blog/71055-downwind-surfski-glyngoere-sillerslev\|description with video]]
		+	* Hals - Hou 12 km [[https://www.onadventure.dk/blog/57447-downwind-paa-surfski-hals-til-hou\|description with video]] (can extend another 10 km to Asaa Harbor)
	* Hanstholm - Bulbjerg 27 km		* Hanstholm - Bulbjerg 27 km
		+	* Hirtshals - Tversted 12 km [[https://www.onadventure.dk/blog/42771-downwind-paa-surfski-hirtshals-til-tversted\|description]]
	* Hornbaek [[https://youtu.be/nwrCq1tZrKU?t=109\|video]]		* Hornbaek [[https://youtu.be/nwrCq1tZrKU?t=109\|video]]
	* Klampenborg - Vedbæk 10 km		* Klampenborg - Vedbæk 10 km
	* Lake Møsso [[https://www.facebook.com/100052627621913/videos/1517024035727935/\|video]]		* Lake Møsso [[https://www.facebook.com/100052627621913/videos/1517024035727935/\|video]]
	* Limfjord		* Limfjord
-	* [[https://youtu.be/k1-Ne58BXTo\|downwind video]], [[https://youtu.be/QeHevi5pQSA\|video 2]]	+	* [[https://youtu.be/k1-Ne58BXTo\|downwind video]], [[https://youtu.be/QeHevi5pQSA\|video 2]]
		+	* Amtoft - Løgstør 18 km [[https://www.onadventure.dk/blog/57445-downwind-surfski-amtoft-logstor\|description with video]]
	* Lundø**		* Lundø**
	- Virksund or Ulbjerg Strand **12 - 14 km [[https://www.onadventure.dk/blog/88349-downwind-paa-surfski-lovns-bredning\|description with video]]		- Virksund or Ulbjerg Strand **12 - 14 km [[https://www.onadventure.dk/blog/88349-downwind-paa-surfski-lovns-bredning\|description with video]]

Destinations to Research

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:48 +0000

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Dan Harris Challenge Results

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:49 +0000

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	+	===== Dan Harris Challenge Results =====
	+
	+	John Rybczyk \\
	+	04/28/19 #24749
	+
	+	Well, we got lucky what with the race bookended between brutal westerlies yesterday and a troublesome westerly that blew up right after the race today. No surf, but it was a beautiful day on the bay for a paddle. We had 89 racers in 55 boats if you count Reivers who pulled up with pulled ribs. Duncan had the fastest start by far. Brandon and Jonas broke the course. Kevin Olney took honors in the men's HPK and Heather Nelson in the women's HPK. A shout out to Abby Scoggins and Hilary Greenwood, our first ever HPK2 double with two juniors at the Dan Harris. You know what that means…we used to buy the doubles so that we could pull the kids around the bay with us, now the doubles are for pulling the old folks around. Preliminary results are posted below. Let me know if there are any errors. Apologies to: Denise Weeks, we missed announcing her third place in the HPKW division; D. Hull (can't read the first name on the entry sheet), we missed announcing her 1st place in the FSK division, and Lance Romo…we missed you entirely…and by that I mean we have no idea when you crossed the line. We guessed. Special thanks to all the volunteers, thanks to everyone for parking where you were supposed to park, thanks to BBOP for brining 24 racers in 4 boats and thanks to the many Canadians who dared cross the MAGA border to race. You are truly pagayeurs sans frontieres. After a nap and possilby a large margarita, I wiill work on the Think International scoring, but the Canadians brought over a lot of fast boast, including many doubles. It's going to be trouble for the USA. Finally, thanks to new sponsor and new papa Nicholas and Faster Farther for providing excellent awards. I won't go into it all here, but if you have not paddled in his gear, you are missing out big time and the best part is that there's more to come. See you on the water. johnr
	+
	+	Place Time Name Class Place in Class
	+
	+	1. 44: 35 Nelson/Ecker HPK2-Jr 1
	+
	+	2. 47:11 Redman/Wallick HPK2MX 1
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	+	3. 47:29 Ecker/Wermus HPK2MX 2
	+
	+	4. 49:09 Olney HPK 1
	+
	+	5. 50:11 Gerstl/Hammer OC2 1
	+
	+	6. 50:12 Raymond/Rademacher HPK2MX 3
	+
	+	7. 50:22 Putnam HPK 2
	+
	+	8. 50:41 Martin/Warren HPK2MX 4
	+
	+	9. 50:41 Curson HPK 3
	+
	+	10. 51:05 Clement/Scoggins HPK2 1
	+
	+	11. 51:14 Dyck HPK 4
	+
	+	12. 51:21 Page/Bilmer HPK2MX 5
	+
	+	13. 51:29 Marcus HPK 5
	+
	+	14. 51:43 BBOP Men OC6 1
	+
	+	15. 51:55 Nelson HPKW 1
	+
	+	16. 51:58 Lipp HPK 6
	+
	+	17. 52:02 Remmler HPK 7
	+
	+	18. 52:35 Stothers HPK 8
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	+	19. 52:39 Bruce HPK 9
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	+	20. 52:40 Lee/Boatman OC2 2
	+
	+	21. 52:40 Kelly HPK 10
	+
	+	22. 53:41 Bussinger HPK 11
	+
	+	23. 54:14 BBOP MX OC6 1
	+
	+	23. 54:22 Bumstead HPK 12
	+
	+	24. 55:08 Whitehead OC1 1
	+
	+	25. 55:08 Davis HPK 13
	+
	+	26. 55:11 Mosley OC1 2
	+
	+	27. 55:13 Wallick HPK 14
	+
	+	28. 55:44 Sullivan/Goolsby HPK2 2
	+
	+	29. 55:46 Scoggins/Greenwood HPK2jrjr 1
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	+	30. 55:50 Hansen HPK 15
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	+	31. 57:25 Hope HPK 16
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	+	32. 57:31 BBOPW (Caplan A.) OC6 1
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	+	33. 58:11 Romo OC1 3
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	+	34. 58:23 BBOPW (Abbott) OC6 2
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	+	35. 58:24 Mayhew HPK 17
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	+	36. 58:36 Cole HPKW 2
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	+	37. 59:16 Shalka OC1 4
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	+	38. 59:35 Clarke/Lee HPK2jr 2
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	+	40. 59:39 Gregory HPK 18
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	+	41. 59:49 VanDooren/Reeves OC2W 1
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	+	42. 59:50 Howat HPK 19
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	+	43. 1:00:59 Brown HPK 20
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	+	44. 1:01:22 Halstead HPK 21
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	+	45. 1:101:26 McBeath OC2 3
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	+	46. 1:03:00 Niemier HPK 22
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	+	47. 1:03:30 Helms HPK 23
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	+	48. 1:03:31 Lamb HPK 24
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	+	49. 1:04:46 Petri OC2 4
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	+	50. 1:05:23 Hull FSKW 1
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	+	51. 1:07:02 Cooper HPK 25
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	+	52. 1:08:54 Stimac HPK 26
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	+	53. 1:08:57 Weeks HPKW 3
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	+	54. 1:10:16 Zipper HPKW 4
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	+	Kimberly Reeves \\
	+	04/28/19 #24750
	+
	+	I think Lance was after the Abbott oc-6….
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin
	+
	+	04/28/19 #24752
	+
	+	how did Bob McBeath get such a strange time? What a really great race that was, even though I ended up a spectator. So good to see everyone enjoying the event.
	+
	+	Dale McKinnon \\
	+	04/28/19 #24753
	+
	+	Photos of the 15th Annual Dan Harris Challenge 2019 are at [[https://imgur.com/a/2L76waQ\|https://imgur.com/a/2L76waQ]] .
	+
	+	The photos start at the end of the race and end at the beginning of the race. Of course…
	+
	+	I'll have results and the photos on danharrischallenge.com tomorrow, I think.
	+
	+	A good day…
	+
	+	Dale
	+
	+	Jopdar \\
	+	04/28/19 #24754
	+
	+	John, thanks for a great event! And great to see the Bellingham crew after a long winter. Look forward to seeing you all in Deep Cove!
	+
	+	Cheers,
	+
	+	Daryl
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger \\
	+	04/29/19 #24755
	+
	+	Great race John. Great support group. Good job on missing Bhams notorious west wind chop.\\
	+	Thanks also to Nicholas and Faster/Farther for the support.
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger
	+
	+	04/29/19 #24756
	+
	+	I need to find out what Putnam is doing to paddle so well. I used to be able to keep him in sight. At least i can still see Remmler; if i use binoculars.
	+
	+	Bob Putnam
	+
	+	04/29/19 #24758
	+
	+	LB: A week in Maui doing Maliko runs never hurt anyone!
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger \\
	+	04/29/19 #24762
	+
	+	Good God!! It definitely worked. Nice race. I’m going to miss the Deep Cove race but hope to make a good showing at the Canadian Champs and Gorge races now that i slip into the 70 age group. The barnacles are going to the Gorge June 26 thru weekend for practice.
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger
	+
	+	**DHC for Canada\\
	+	Bob Putnam** \\
	+	04/29/19 #24757
	+
	+	Great Race on Sunday. Big Thanks to John R and his team for putting on a fun and friendly event. Mark March 11 on your calendar for the Board the Fjord in Deep Cove. The second part of Think International Surfski Challenge. We'll be serving Burritos n Beer!
	+
	+	Most of Team Canada came down on Saturday to enjoy some Bellingham Craft Beer Culture...you know paddling = beer! This was my second B'Ham race of the year. With the Not So Rough Water race being the first. I had a disappointing performance in that one, where I believe I caught a "mental weed" so I was hoping to put in a better performance and represent Canada for the DHC. #1 beat Josh Dyck, #2 beat Josh Dyck! Ha!! Mission accomplished! Seems like an Epic Weedless Rudder and a monster weed guard that would cut the tentacles off a menacing octopus did the job. I was wash riding double OC team of Power/Gerstl and SS double Raymond/Rademacher. Essentially surfing on the wakes. My Epic V12 did a great job. Josh and the my other young upstart rival from Canada Connor Curson, both succumb to the weeds of B-Bay. Thank you Weeds and Chock one up for the old guys!!
	+
	+	Kelowna Paddling Centre was well represented by Sally and Moose Wallick and Greg Redman. Our Vancouver Island contingent was missing as the traditional DHC date conflicts with the Van Island Snow to Surf Race in Comox. BTW the Kelowna Crew is hosting the Kelowna Waterman which will be well attended by Vancouver folk. Its a great weekend of paddling in all disciplines OC Surfski and SUP.
	+
	+	Rod Hope got mugged by an OC6. Hanging out in the wrong part of town. It was like one of those cop chase scenes filmed from a helicopter with the fugitive leaving a path of destruction in their wake. I'm sure there's two sides to every story but from Rod's perspective it was "JPA" "I was Just Padding Along, and this Iako clocked me in the back of my head and then I was stuck between the Ama and the Canoe." All boats came to a stop and the Jaws of Life were used to extricate Rod from the tangle. At least he has a good story to tell.
	+
	+	A cold NW Breeze kicked up after the race which deterred people from hanging around. Team Canada went to indulge in more Craft Beer.
	+
	+	If you are looking to pick up a new Epic Surfski, Coast Outdoors is representing Epic Kayaks in the Bellingham Area with Steve Scoggins. We have a good selection of Epic Surfskis in Bellingham with some demos. Including the new G3 V10 a great stable surf machine. Give myself or Steve a shout.
	+
	+	Thanks again for a great event and I hope to see you in Deep Cove on May 11.\\
	+	Cheers\\
	+	Bob
	+
	+	allipp@... \\
	+	04/29/19 #24759
	+
	+	I'm guessing you meant May 11 rather than March 11?
	+
	+	Dale McKinnon \\
	+	04/29/19 #24760
	+
	+	March 11? What year...?
	+
	+	Bob Putnam \\
	+	04/29/19 #24761
	+
	+	Yes Thanks Alan and Dale! May 11.
	+

Cause of Butt Pain

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:49 +0000

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	+	from [[https://www.facebook.com/groups/395803743862021/permalink/5066525246789824/\|facebook post]]:
	+
	+	Surfski Kayak \\
	+	Paul Tomblin · \\
	+	· \\
	+	I have a problem sitting[1] which means I haven’t managed to paddle since last fall - even then it was quite painful but I grinned and bore it until the end of the racing season. I tried once in the spring and got 20 minutes and I was in absolute agony by the end of it.
	+
	+	I have a memory foam pad that allows me to sit in a chair for a while, but even then it’s a bit painful. Today just for a test I tried paddling with the pad, and while it was a lot less painful, it was also very thick so it made me very unstable in the boat, and it also tilted my hips back so I couldn’t sit up, nor could I get rotation. But if I shoved it so it was half behind me and half under me, I was actually able to paddle for nearly an hour with only minor pain. But the pad got water logged and absorbed about 5-10 pounds of water.
	+
	+	Does anybody have a seat pad recommendation?
	+
	+	Depend on which doctor you talk to, it might be the ischial bursa, the sciatic nerve, the performis muscle, another smaller muscle just below the performis, or the hamstring, but so far it hasn’t responded to any treatment for any of those conditions.
	+
	+	Robert Hartman \\
	+	What about an inflatable seat pad? I have a thermarest version.
	+
	+	Adam KingtonClay
	+
	+	When I used to do marathons I used a closed cell neoprene pad about 12mm thick.
	+
	+	I'd also recommend a sports physio or very skilled Sports massage therapist - you want someone who understands that you're an athlete for whom "just rest" and "it could be x or y" guess doesn't suffice.
	+
	+	You want to remain active and you want to not only heal, but prevent the issue from recurring.\\
	+	Mobility testing should determine what the underlying issue is.
	+
	+	The seminal text linked below illustrates how methodical testing will identify very accurately what muscles are involved (weaknesses, injuries, tightness etc).\\
	+	There's no need for guesswork.
	+
	+	From your use of language I'm guessing you're in the US, meaning medical advice might be expensive. It could well be worth getting the text book and asking someone to assist you with the tests etc as a cheaper option.\\
	+	Good luck.
	+
	+	https://www.booktopia.com.au/musc.../book/9780781747806.html\\
	+	Muscles: Testing and Function, with Posture and Pain
	+
	+	Paul Tomblin \\
	+	Adam KingtonClay I’m in the US but I have really good insurance. I’ve had 5 MRIs and a couple of X-rays and I can’t count how many doctors visits (but I’m guessing at least 20) and physical therapy from pretty good sports medicine physical therapists in the last 6 months. Still no diagnosis. Still no treatment. My neurologist has tried 3 different drugs and none have given me any relief - gabapentin made me dizzy, amatrypiline (?) made me sleep all day, and doxycycline gave me tachycardia. None of them helped the pain.
	+
	+	Adam KingtonClay \\
	+	Paul Tomblin that's intense brother!
	+
	+	This might sound odd... did you have Covid pre symptoms?
	+
	+	The emerging information about neuropathic pain post Covid is worth considering.
	+
	+	Another line of enquiry for pain after sitting in the lower back is iliopsoas. Shortening here is very common, often overlooked. It can (not always) also present with symptoms similar to irritable bowel.
	+
	+	People with generally shortened/tight iliopsoas often look like they have a "duck's bum" with belly hanging forward, tight hamstrings and their thighs look short (ie trucker's posture) - due to anterior pelvic tilt.
	+
	+	Other symptoms include headaches (due to body tilt corrections up the spine) and difficulty straightening up when standing.
	+
	+	An imbalance with one side shorter than the other can cause headaches on one side, the aforementioned tummy issues (if short on the left), and a scoliotic "S" curve in the spine (due to lateral and lopsided anterior pelvic tilt). If you lie flat on the ground with body straight, someone placing their thumbs in equal positions under your left and right ankles will likely notice one thumb (hence ankle) is lower than the other giving the appearance of leg length difference - this is due to an uneven pull on hips creating the apparent shortness.
	+
	+	People with this often sit with their legs/knees pulled up to relieve the pain. Now, I don't know if this is the case, but it's a commonly missed issue.
	+
	+	The simplest remedy is simple lunge stretches for the iliopsoas done regularly. The trick is being mindful enough to isolate the iliopsoas and not allowing little movement "cheats" to let the muscle group escape the stretch.
	+
	+	Again I don't know and I'm not diagnosing, just providing some information for consideration.\\
	+	https://www.kenhub.com/.../anatomy/iliopsoas-muscle....\\
	+	Iliopsoas muscle
	+
	+	James Michaels \\
	+	Maybe try a seat from a OC 1 ? They are made to be wet. Nelo, Puakea designs, Ozone might have them.
	+
	+	Mike Staninec \\
	+	I had a similar problem over 20 years ago that never went completely away. It was acute for most of a year and I saw several doctors: orthopedic, chiropractic, acupuncture and sports medicine. Only the sports medicine doc made a slight dent in the symptoms by prescribing some stretches and hamstring exercises on the assumption that it is the hamstring attachment to the ischeal tuberosity. Later I went to a very talented physical therapist who did me the most good by far with extensive hamstring work for several months. The problem never went completely away. If I sit on a hard chair I start hurting in 5 or 10 minutes but on soft chairs I'm fine, so I carry a cushion. For paddling I have custom padded neoprene pants: one pad above and two pads below, with a 1" gap right over the ischeal tuberosities in seated position. A recent MRI for an unrelated purpose showed that the inflamed area is actually the gluteus tendon, very close to the hamstring tendon. My recommendation: 1. MRI with gadolinium contrast to pinpoint the problem. 2. Physical therapy based on those findings, 3. Custom padded pants.\\
	+	\\
	+	Anthony Rodier \\
	+	Physiotherapist here Paul. Yes there are a range of possible causes but the main issue is you haven't found the person who can diagnose it and treat it properly. In Australia a Sports Physician would find the problem and likely refer you to a decent Physio to rehab it.
	+
	+	Greg Cole \\
	+	I use a padded wedge across the back of my bucket to roll my hips forward and put more meat under my sit bones. It allows me to sit in the bottom of the bucket and still rotate somewhat. May be an image of saddle-stitched leather
	+
	+	{{https://surfski.wiki//lib/plugins/ckgedit/fckeditor/userfiles/image/fitness/seatcushion2.jpg?direct&200x269}}
	+
	+	Melinda Edward \\
	+	Try Skwoosh. It really helps me.
	+
	+	Kerry Wilson \\
	+	You may find that closed cell foam does the job if you cut out the area where it hurts to relieve the pressure. The pad may be softer than the ski but it still applies pressure, cutting away the area relieves the pressure and stops the irritation which makes it swell.
	+
	+	Mark Nye \\
	+	The Skwoosh pad is very good. You could also try the Deakbeater padded shorts designed for dinghy racers. I have used both in my surfskis. As an alternate approach, have you considered a decked boat? Lack of a fixed Surfski cockpit allows you to carve the perfect closed cell foam seat for your bottom. Picture is a Bjorn Thomasson Surfski hull with a regular deck that I built. Handles exactly like my SEI but much more comfortable.\\
	+	{{https://surfski.wiki//lib/plugins/ckgedit/fckeditor/userfiles/image/fitness/seatcushion.jpg?direct&250x333}}
	+
	+	Edward Gifford \\
	+	Just an idea I would run by the doctor. Could you patially inflate a small inner tube to sit on. It will take a lot of experimentation to find the exact pressure needed and may cause a bit of instability but it sounds like it might be worth a shot! Good Luck!
	+
	+	Bruce McManus \\
	+	Is this pain isolated to your sit bones? I have this problem and have found a solution with a home made pad.
	+
	+	Paul Tomblin \\
	+	Author\\
	+	Bruce McManus Oddly, it’s just on one side. But yeah, if I press on the painful area if feels exactly like the sit bone, although the physio therapist explained to me the reason all the doctors have different ideas is because there’s so much happening in that area, where the sciatic nerve can pass either behind or between the performis muscle and there is a bursa right under the sit bone and any one of them could be the source. I’d like to hear more about your home made pad.
	+
	+	Bruce McManus \\
	+	Paul Tomblin I’m happy to tell you what I did and send a few pictures. It worked for me to the extent that I would not have been a paddler if it hadn’t worked out. I ll take some pictures tonight.
	+
	+	Graham Boys \\
	+	Try some sessions at a Kinesiologist. I had hamstring issues and now once a year for a routine session for my wellbeing.
	+
	+	Andy W. Stephens \\
	+	Paul, I think my own problem is from the Obturator internus, a 'horizontal' muscle which is 2 muscles below the Pyriformis. But like you & others have commented, there are many possible causes. Tilting my kayak seat down towards the front helped a lot. A seat pad helps too. When I tried a Fenn XT ski, I no longer had a problem. I used to get sore by 15 km in my kayak with modified seat. But using my newish Carbonology Boost ski I have gone 30 km with absolutely no pain !!!
	+

Weight Effect on Boat Speed

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:49 +0000

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	+
	+	**Interesting reading…regarding light skis.\\
	+	David Scherrer** \\
	+	07/16/15 #17712
	+
	+	Feedback?
	+
	+	[[https://www.surfski.info/component/k2/story/1547/relax-a-few-extra-pounds-may-be-a-good-thing-in-your-surfski.html\|Relax – a few extra pounds may be a good thing. In your surfski]]. - Surfski.info - News, Product Reviews and Interviews\\
	+	\\
	+	There’s just nothing like the feel of taking your feather-weight 24lb (11kg) surfski off your car racks with one hand, carrying it to the water…\\
	+	\\
	+	duncanhowat \\
	+	07/16/15 #17713
	+
	+	Don't agree with this guy in most areas. If your twichy in a light 17" ave weight then go a little wider and lighter. Having had a couple of various kinds and weights, I've found (at a old age) light (18.5-20 lbs stable gets you up and over some stuff I couldn't do before. Now on flat water light gets it done ,period. Besides, when you have a broken scapula, as some us do, two hips replaced,as some us do, rotator cuffs gone,as most of us do, knees replaced, and then you turn 80,carrying a 35# boat up the goat trail at the white salmon river take out can't be done, but a 19# boat can. See you all on the river. Wind blows all next week at the Gorge.
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	07/17/15 #17714
	+
	+	couldn't have said it better. Or when the Big O was asked about this he said, "Lighta is Betta". The boats weight is dead weight. Yes, it is cheaper to get rid of body weight, but this is live weight that can be used for balance or leverage. Even more important is the weight of paddle. You carry and move the paddle a whole bunch. I want all my competitors to have heavier paddles than mine.
	+
	+	Why else would a builder succesfully market those Ultra constructions. My demarcation line is at about 30 pounds. As the bankers say, "Substantial penalty" for anything over that.
	+
	+	rd
	+
	+	Michael Gregory
	+
	+	07/17/15 #17716
	+
	+	There are two instances where a very light ski is helpful; accelerating the ski and carrying the dang boat to your car after a work-out. For most of us the latter is probably more important than the former.
	+
	+	Steve Scoggins
	+
	+	07/17/15 #17717
	+
	+	I can't remember a time when I was wishing I had a few extra pounds in the boat.
	+
	+	Steve
	+
	+	John Rybczyk
	+
	+	07/17/15 #17718
	+
	+	I'm always wishing that your boat had a few extra pounds Scoggins!
	+
	+	Johnr
	+
	+	zach \\
	+	07/19/15 #17723
	+
	+	I think light might not be THAT much faster. Here is a link to a nerdy page that does all kind of math to determine the effect of weight on the speed of rowing shells:
	+
	+	(//Original link invalid - [[http://eodg.atm.ox.ac.uk/user/dudhia/rowing/physics/weight.html\|similar content]]// )
	+
	+	FAQ: What is the Significance of Weight in Rowing?\\
	+	At the bottom of the page the calculate the effect of dead weight on boat speed taking into account the increased displacement of water (wave generation). Their result is that every percent increase in boat+paddler weight will decrease speed by one sixth of one percent. In other words, a 170# paddler going from an ultra layup epic to a performance layup would increase total weight 3% and decrease boat speed by 0.5%. That is 18 seconds over the course of an hour.
	+
	+	In the bump I am not sure if weight has more or less effect. catching runs is more about acceleration than steady state speed, and acceleration is much more directly affected by weight. However, if the heavier boat still accelerates fast enough to catch every wave that the lighter boat can catch, then overall speed will be the same. If the lighter boat allows a few clutch moves to jump a wave, the lighter boat will be a few waves ahead. On the other hand, if the lighter boat is corkier and the paddler is less stable than maybe the light boat would be slower.
	+
	+	It gets awfully complicated to theorize about.
	+
	+	I guess I am in the camp that the main benefit of light boats is carrying them in and out of the garage.
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	07/19/15 #17724
	+
	+	Before we got whatcompaddlers rolling (what a clunky name), I followed a yahoogroup with more of a worldwide sprint-boat membership. There were a few members of that group who were technically solid in nautical engineering. One in particular worked for the Navy - his job was modelling and testing boat properties. He took special interest in sprint boat speeds vs. surfski speeds. His superior qualifications didn't stop others from arguing with him - of course. This is a yahoogroup. That's the whole point.
	+
	+	Anyway, one of his big observations was that wave effects tend to swamp* certain predictions of modelling or lab testing boats. The guy had access to a full-on drag pool. My own observation is that the lightness of the boat mostly matters at the moment you try to pop onto a waveface. This might be due to my weak skill at timing the rides.
	+
	+	Enjoy the discussion. It might not be possible to totally conclude the truth for all purposes. I spoke with Mr. Findeissen (can't remember his first name) at one of the "San Juan Challenge" races years ago. He said he built a light boat and it was terrible. His attitude was that I was a dummy for taking a light-boat position. I suspect his life as a boat builder gave him a way different perspective. Especially because he was dealing with the materials at hand three decades ago or so.
	+
	+	*"Swamped" used here as a mathematical expression for overpowering or making other factors negligable. Sort of a geeky pun in this case. forgive the punster.
	+
	+	rd
	+

Do It Yourself Recessed Carry Handles

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:49 +0000

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	**boat finger grips\\		**boat finger grips\\
	Larry Bussinger** \\		Larry Bussinger** \\
-	10/13/23 #34554	+	10/13/23 #34554

-	I saw someone at Marine Park one day that had added finger grip cups to his OC to help carry it. The ones by the seat. Where can I get those cup/inserts? Is there a boat manufacture that sells them?\\	+	I saw someone at Marine Park one day that had added finger grip cups to his OC to help carry it. The ones by the seat. Where can I get those cup/inserts? Is there a boat manufacture that sells them?\\
	Larry B		Larry B

	gsouthstone \\		gsouthstone \\
-	10/15/23 #34564	+	10/15/23 #34564

	Hey Larry;		Hey Larry;

-	Is this the handle you saw? I fabricated and installed this design in both of my Nelos', the original factory installed handles weren't designed for our gloved cold water paddling. Mine are designed to get both hands wedged inside and locked in around the top lip- a must for our winter paddling-. . If interested, I can tell you what not to do. You can purchase the 1/8" Black ABS at Hardware Sales. There are some serious considerations i.e. the rudder cable route and the depth of the void you wish to occupy.	+	Is this the handle you saw? I fabricated and installed this design in both of my Nelos', the original factory installed handles weren't designed for our gloved cold water paddling. Mine are designed to get both hands wedged inside and locked in around the top lip- a must for our winter paddling-. . If interested, I can tell you what not to do. You can purchase the 1/8" Black ABS at Hardware Sales. There are some serious considerations i.e. the rudder cable route and the depth of the void you wish to occupy.

	Gary		Gary

DIY Long racks

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:49 +0000

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DIY Sugru

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	+	gsouthstone May 1 2022 #31529
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	+	Sugru is easy to DIY;
	+
	+	{{:diy_sugru.jpg?nolink&160x160\|diy_sugru.jpg}}
	+
	+	A mix of 1 corn starch to 1 silicone caulk will be like a putty in 1 to 2 minutes and can then be hand smoothed. In 3 or 4 minutes it will be like clay and can still be molded but is hard to smooth.
	+
	+	G
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dj_cold_water_checklist

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-	David Jacobsen's COLD WATER SELF CHECK (references Bellingham, WA primarily - adjust for your locale)	+	David Jacobson's COLD WATER SELF CHECK (references Bellingham, WA primarily - adjust for your locale)

	1. Skills - #1 no doubt, can not fake them, period.		1. Skills - #1 no doubt, can not fake them, period.

One More Drano@80 Hopeful

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Thu, 10 Apr 2025 14:40:06 +0000

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-	===== Recovering from Should Impingement & Looking forward to Drano@80 =====	+	===== Recovering from Shoulder Impingement & Looking forward to Drano@80 =====

	Bellingham Paddler Dan Mayhew:		Bellingham Paddler Dan Mayhew:
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	I saw her at least once a month. In the beginning it felt like I was making no improvement. Then gains came in millimeters. After many months I had enough mobility to start strength training. Like the initial mobility work, the exercises seemed almost pointless. Despite the urge to do more, I did exactly as prescribed. Eight months from my first appointment I was back in my surfski.		I saw her at least once a month. In the beginning it felt like I was making no improvement. Then gains came in millimeters. After many months I had enough mobility to start strength training. Like the initial mobility work, the exercises seemed almost pointless. Despite the urge to do more, I did exactly as prescribed. Eight months from my first appointment I was back in my surfski.

-	In order to never have to go through that rehab again, I took the following post-rehab actions as prescribed by Kerry: I always activate my shoulders before paddling; I do mobility exercises every day; and I strength train with Jerrod at Prime. I also take surfski lessons to improve the bad technique that contributed to my injury (the same lessons are available from Ana at Prime). As promised, my shoulders are stronger than before my injury.	+	In order to never have to go through that rehab again, I took the following post-rehab actions as prescribed by Kerry: I always activate my shoulders before paddling; I do mobility exercises every day; and I strength train with Jerrod at Prime. I also take surfski lessons to improve the bad technique that contributed to my injury (the same lessons are available from Ana at Prime). As promised, my shoulders are stronger than before my injury.

	I have many surfski adventures planned. The most meaningful event is in 2037: the Drano at 80. To be eligible you must be 80 years old and paddle down a contentious section of the Columbia River. My goal is to be fit and have a joyful paddle on that day 12 years from now. Kerry and the Prime team greatly improved the odds that I get my name on the Drano at 80 trophy.		I have many surfski adventures planned. The most meaningful event is in 2037: the Drano at 80. To be eligible you must be 80 years old and paddle down a contentious section of the Columbia River. My goal is to be fit and have a joyful paddle on that day 12 years from now. Kerry and the Prime team greatly improved the odds that I get my name on the Drano at 80 trophy.

The Doctor 2018

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:50 +0000

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	Tom Swetish** \\		Tom Swetish** \\
-	11/22/18 #24060	+	11/22/18 #24060

	No official start time but rumor is 1:00 or 2:00. Thanks for the support!		No official start time but rumor is 1:00 or 2:00. Thanks for the support!

-	Sprint knock-off races this morning. Start 250 meters out - sprint to the beach and a short run. Super entertaining. Ana got third U19 to a couple surf lifesaving girls. They learn to paddle shorebreak and run on sand before they can walk here. So cool. Will post video of the open men and women if I can - it was intense.	+	Sprint knock-off races this morning. Start 250 meters out - sprint to the beach and a short run. Super entertaining. Ana got third U19 to a couple surf lifesaving girls. They learn to paddle shorebreak and run on sand before they can walk here. So cool. Will post video of the open men and women if I can - it was intense.

	Last night was an 11km race up the coast - with 270 of your best friends. Beach start. Heather took second masters. Ana took second U19. I continued to conserve energy for tomorrow.		Last night was an 11km race up the coast - with 270 of your best friends. Beach start. Heather took second masters. Ana took second U19. I continued to conserve energy for tomorrow.
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	**Re: Live Tracking for the Doctor\\		**Re: Live Tracking for the Doctor\\
-	allipp@…** \\	+	allipp@...** \\
-	11/23/18 #24061	+	11/23/18 #24061

-	I finally found the results for the Thursday night race. It appears that Ana was fourth female overall and first under 19, with Heather 10th overall and 2nd 40s.	+	I finally found the results for the Thursday night race. It appears that Ana was fourth female overall and first under 19, with Heather 10th overall and 2nd 40s.

-	[[https://www.webscorer.com/race?pid=1&raceid=162339\|https://www.webscorer.com/race?pid=1&raceid=162339]]	+	https://www.webscorer.com/race?pid=1&raceid=162339

	Paul Reavley \\		Paul Reavley \\
-	11/23/18 #24068	+	11/23/18 #24068

	Doctor Results:		Doctor Results:

-	[[http://bluechipresults.com.au/results.aspx?CId=11&RId=1203\|http://bluechipresults.com.au/results.aspx?CId=11&RId=1203]]	+	http://bluechipresults.com.au/results.aspx?CId=11&RId=1203&fbclid=IwAR0unUf-qkuZNEKG1S9vPJ1jlladnJny-Ws9JlA19yEYQcAG-B71_Igw9HE

	surfskilady \\		surfskilady \\
-	11/23/18 #24069	+	11/23/18 #24069

	It was a long , hot race! I pushed my 35 pound V10 Sport I rented in anticipation of big wind as fast as I could. Psyched to be3rdMaster Women! Ana raced smart and strong, finishing 2nd U19.\\		It was a long , hot race! I pushed my 35 pound V10 Sport I rented in anticipation of big wind as fast as I could. Psyched to be3rdMaster Women! Ana raced smart and strong, finishing 2nd U19.\\
	420 entrants.\\		420 entrants.\\
-	I am sure there will stories to come…\\	+	I am sure there will stories to come...\\
	H		H

	surfskilady		surfskilady

-	11/24/18 #24070	+	11/24/18 #24070

	Sorry, Ana 3rd U19.		Sorry, Ana 3rd U19.
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-	11/24/18 #24073	+	11/24/18 #24073

	Very impressive, you two - Congratulations, Heather & Ana!!		Very impressive, you two - Congratulations, Heather & Ana!!

	Paul Reavley \\		Paul Reavley \\
-	11/24/18 #24075	+	11/24/18 #24075

	And congratulations to Tom in the men's over 40. That group seemed absolutely packed. They seemed to have plenty of barnacles and tons of aspiring barnacles up and coming in their 40s and 50s.		And congratulations to Tom in the men's over 40. That group seemed absolutely packed. They seemed to have plenty of barnacles and tons of aspiring barnacles up and coming in their 40s and 50s.

	Toby Cooper \\		Toby Cooper \\
-	11/24/18 #24076	+	11/24/18 #24076

-	And congratulations to Austin (10th OA) and Carter (61st OA). The Yanks are Coming.	+	And congratulations to Austin (10th OA) and Carter (61st OA). The Yanks are Coming.

Is Previous Kayaking Experience Helpful?

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:50 +0000

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	+	**Newbie here\\
	+	Todd Hill** \\
	+	Jun 6 #26915
	+
	+	Hi all\\
	+	I’m an avid sea kayaker and used to be white water paddler. I sail and surf and have a strong connection to water if all kinds.
	+
	+	Born and raised Washingtonian. I live in the Columbia River gorge at the moment and spend time weekly paddling my kayak. I have spent a ton of time up in the San Juan’s and my daughter lives in Bham. A friend recommended I look y’all up since I’m interested in adding surf ski to my life but don’t own one yet. Hoping to get some good beta and maybe someone is looking to lighten there quiver!
	+
	+	I’m 6’2” 190
	+
	+	Todd A Hill
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger \\
	+	Jun 7 #26916
	+
	+	I have an older Huki S1-X with retractable skeg I’m selling. You could give it a try. 360-twotwozero-2342. Its a bit narrow, but with your experience it might work with the skeg.
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger
	+
	+	Todd Hill
	+
	+	Jun 7 #26917
	+
	+	Thanks Larry
	+
	+	I’m looking at a think evo 2 today but\\
	+	Will be in bham on the 19th if I’m still looking I’ll look you up!!
	+
	+	Todd A Hill
	+
	+	OPS
	+
	+	Jun 7 #26918
	+
	+	There’s a malo XT s with DJ in Bellingham as well.
	+
	+	dnj79@...
	+
	+	And at the end of July we will be in Hood River, Seattle, B ham with a trailer full of new skis from FENN and Carbonology. All levels.
	+
	+	DeAnne Hemmens\\
	+	Ocean Paddlesports
	+
	+	David Hooper
	+
	+	Jun 7 #26919
	+
	+	Todd (or anyone else looking for a boat),
	+
	+	I have a Huki S1-R for sale, including a spare steering cable set should you want to move the footrest out to accommodate longer legs. This boat originated with Michael Medler, and is what got me started in surfski. It has some minor surface blemishs, but still paddles great. While I got it from Medler ~7 years ago, it's been very lightly used the last several. 33.2 lbs.\\
	+	$1200, obo.
	+
	+	Dave H.
	+
	+	Dennis Mowry
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	+	Jun 7 #26920
	+
	+	Todd,\\
	+	Before you purchase the evo 2 try the Fenn Swordfish S. Very cool boat for surfing. Then gradually work your way into the Fenn Elite S.\\
	+	The one the Champs use.
	+
	+	I recommend not messing around and go carbon for both. With you water abilities you could benefit.
	+
	+	I'm considering selling my Fenn set, which I love, both Carbon, for a Flex to match my Vega.\\
	+	You can demo mine when you get to bellingham and I'll explain more on the different boats.
	+
	+	Maybe we can also hookup to board surf sometime.
	+
	+	bill
	+
	+	Jun 7 #26921
	+
	+	I will counter Dennis’s enthusiasm with my experiences in learning.
	+
	+	I was a a solid 4-5 white water paddler with 20+years of avid sea kayaking experience before ski’s took over. I thought ... I’m a gnarly whitewater paddler with years of experience in the ocean as well, this should be a piece of cake transition. I thought, I have lots of ‘paddle fu’ and know how to surf a wave... no problem. Boy was I wrong. Before my first downwind in the gorge I had spent a year or so paddling flat water 5 days a week. I had a good base fitness and had got a basic handle on my first hurdle, learning to use a wing paddle. I went with some people to the gorge and did the Stevenson run for my first downwind. I went with people I was about as fast as in flat water but who were seasoned down wind paddlers. As we paddled out to the red can in the river I was thinking... this is going to be sweet, I will stay with them and impressive them with my super cool whitewater surfing skills, because they aren’t super cool whitewater paddler like me .... We got to the red can and grouped up, people hit their gps and off we went.... actually, off they went and i tried to surf and link waves. In 5 min I watched everyone disappear. I flailed for an hour and by the time I got to the car utterly exhausted, people had their boats on there roofs and were eating lunch. I was stunned and humbled.
	+
	+	To make a too long a post shorter.... 7 years later I have learned the only thing my whitewater and sea kayaking background gave me that transferred to ski paddling was a reflective low brace and some comfort in a rough water environment. It did not help me with needing to relearn how to paddle properly, stability as you need to deal with it differently, how to downwind surf and link waves in the slightest, fitness, how to treat a delicate ski, remounting... etc. The longer I have paddled I understand more and more that stability trumps a faster ski every time in a downwind. So I would Highly recommend erring on the side of stability over speed, do not over estimate your skills as a WW/sea kayaker, this is a very different sport and requires you to unlearn a lot of stuff you spent years learning (Like all that paddle fu that is mostly useless on a ski), relearn things you think you know but don’t really (a decent forward stroke), and learn new things (like how to paddle downwind and link waves). You will eventually need 2 skis, one stable downwind ski and one fast skinny one. Buy a stable one first, you will learn all the new skills needed a LOT faster if you do. Then pick up a skinny fast ski someday cheep that someone doesn’t use any more because they learned there fat ski is more fun anyway.
	+
	+	.02
	+
	+	Bill
	+
	+	Todd Hill
	+
	+	Jun 7 #26922
	+
	+	Thanks Bill\\
	+	Words to heed for sure! I have been humbled many times!! water has a way about her!
	+
	+	By no means do I think my past skills will Leapfrog me into understanding a ski! I’m sure I’ll have to put the time in!
	+
	+	Gotta start somewhere and sounds like flat water stable boat is good advise
	+
	+	Todd A Hill
	+
	+	Jon Denham
	+
	+	Jun 7 #26923
	+
	+	What he said...
	+
	+	Very new to surfskis still but have found that a reflexive low brace (been used hundreds and hundreds of times the past few months) is probably the one main thing that has carried over from quite a few years of rough water open ocean sea kayaking and surfing in what are considered narrow, unstable sea kayaks. That one skill has made the transition to surfskis much easier. However, my re-entry skills may be suffering because of this as I haven’t needed them but once and that was in some pretty rough downwind conditions. That re-entry skill has got to be studied and practiced ‘til it’s automatic. That reminds me, I need to practice that some more.
	+
	+	Developing stability to then be able to learn and apply proper forward forward stroke technique and then the power for speed is the challenge(s) I’m working on now. Leg drive and all that... Your background in surfing should help some in downwinders and don’t wait too long to get out and do downwinders in mild conditions. Stable boat...stable boat...stable boat.
	+
	+	My daughter has been wanting to try out the Fenn Swordfish S after hearing of my stability efforts and seeing theraball balance exercises. Oh, Dad...can’t be that bad, from my very athletic high schooler. She sat in the boat in 1 foot of water and was visibly having difficulty staying upright! Refused to take a stroke with the paddle! We’ll work on it more...🤓 I see what you mean, she says.
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin
	+
	+	Jun 7 #26924
	+
	+	hehe, a "Dad win" right there.
	+
	+	Larry Goolsby \\
	+	Jun 16 #26956
	+
	+	Todd.....Welcome. Try as many boats as you can before buying. I can speak for many paddlers in saying that your first surfski will be totally different than your best surfski. There are local Bellingham dealers that can let you demo their fleets. Don't go for pretty, go for what feels good when you sit in it. Too bad I don't have one to sell you.\\
	+	Larry Goolsby
	+
	+	Todd Hill \\
	+	Jun 17 #26961
	+
	+	Thanks Larry
	+
	+	I did buy one and am happy with it so far! It’s comfy but not to sure how it will feel after three hours sitting in it!
	+
	+	I’m definitely working of figuring it all out and have only had it out on semi flat water so far just trying to get all my ducks in a row before any wind and waves
	+
	+	Re mount it’s coming along well!\\
	+	Still need hours of work though
	+
	+	It’s a THINK EVO 2
	+
	+	Todd A Hill
	+
	+	Larry Goolsby
	+
	+	Jun 18 #26965
	+
	+	Great starter boat!\\
	+	LG
	+

Surfski Racing, part one

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Thu, 13 Nov 2025 15:19:34 +0000

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-	(Special blog post from Don Kiesling, former Tsunami Rangers officer, [[:rudders#rudder_sources\|Maker of DK rudders]])	+	(Special blog post from Don Kiesling, former Tsunami Rangers officer, [[:rudders#rudder_sources\|maker of DK rudders]])

	[[https://tsunamirangers.com/2011/01/26/surfski-racing-part-one/\|Original Tsunami Article with photos]]		[[https://tsunamirangers.com/2011/01/26/surfski-racing-part-one/\|Original Tsunami Article with photos]]

Surfski Racing, part 2

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	[[https://tsunamirangers.com/2011/02/01/surfski-racing-part-2/\|Original Tsunami Ranger Blog Post with Photos]]		[[https://tsunamirangers.com/2011/02/01/surfski-racing-part-2/\|Original Tsunami Ranger Blog Post with Photos]]

Paddling a Double Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:50 +0000

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		+	[[:downwind#downwinding_in_a_double_surfski\|Downwinding in a Double]]

	**Whatcom Tandem Wisdom (WTW)\\		**Whatcom Tandem Wisdom (WTW)\\
-	Drew Biel **Jan 9 #33003	+	Drew Biel **Jan 9 #33003

	Dear all —\\		Dear all —\\
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-	Reivers Dustin Jan 9 #33004	+	Reivers Dustin Jan 9 #33004

-	I'll get in here first, but disclaimer: I'm not the best advice. For me the paddle-partner was more important than anything. Some of this might be just body mechanics pairing. But surprisingly there are some amazing quirks out there. Some of these paddle-monkeys have incredible little mannerisms. Some folks have an amazing amount of lean - they actually ride with the boat tipped to one side or the other. You would not normally notice this until you hop in a boat with someone with the opposite lean. Next thing you know you're in a fight with each other (and probably don't even know what started it). There's a million other things. Some guys have power at the first part of the stroke. Or maybe have a faster stroke rate. There's paddlers that "Hop" once in a while to correct their seating or maybe they favor one side.	+	I'll get in here first, but disclaimer: I'm not the best advice. For me the paddle-partner was more important than anything. Some of this might be just body mechanics pairing. But surprisingly there are some amazing quirks out there. Some of these paddle-monkeys have incredible little mannerisms. Some folks have an amazing amount of lean - they actually ride with the boat tipped to one side or the other. You would not normally notice this until you hop in a boat with someone with the opposite lean. Next thing you know you're in a fight with each other (and probably don't even know what started it). There's a million other things. Some guys have power at the first part of the stroke. Or maybe have a faster stroke rate. There's paddlers that "Hop" once in a while to correct their seating or maybe they favor one side.

-	I will forever owe Kirk for being so patient with me. I was front seat in a double. Front seat normally steers. So we jump out in the big old San Fran bay on Doubles Day with a horrible beach start (which I mucked up of course). But as the race is going on I found myself fighting the rudder. I was trying to edge into rides and stuff. But I didn't know the back seat foot pedals were connected. I thought the boat was broken. I thought we were going to die. No steering out there is no joke. Kirk just kept saying "It's cool." "We're ok". etc. I didn't know he had the rudder. And he's a stout lad. I'm not moving the rudder if he doesn't agree. I had no clue. Glad no one had this crap on camera. Sorry Kirk.	+	I will forever owe Kirk for being so patient with me. I was front seat in a double. Front seat normally steers. So we jump out in the big old San Fran bay on Doubles Day with a horrible beach start (which I mucked up of course). But as the race is going on I found myself fighting the rudder. I was trying to edge into rides and stuff. But I didn't know the back seat foot pedals were connected. I thought the boat was broken. I thought we were going to die. No steering out there is no joke. Kirk just kept saying "It's cool." "We're ok". etc. I didn't know he had the rudder. And he's a stout lad. I'm not moving the rudder if he doesn't agree. I had no clue. Glad no one had this crap on camera. Sorry Kirk.

-	One other thing. The boat matters. The big Fenn double is a rock. Did Length-of-the-lake with LG in that boat and it was huge, nasty, wrong-way monsters. We did great. At one section I'm in front seat and could not reach water with my paddle as we crested waves. It was a long day. Super solid boat. On the other hand, although I love Huki, that last double was hard to remount. It's a fast boat, but if you go out, it's a booger to get both paddlers back in. Me and LG practiced a bunch.	+	One other thing. The boat matters. The big Fenn double is a rock. Did Length-of-the-lake with LG in that boat and it was huge, nasty, wrong-way monsters. We did great. At one section I'm in front seat and could not reach water with my paddle as we crested waves. It was a long day. Super solid boat. On the other hand, although I love Huki, that last double was hard to remount. It's a fast boat, but if you go out, it's a booger to get both paddlers back in. Me and LG practiced a bunch.

-	Best memories: my kid and me doing Great Cross Sound race. Shane B. and another stout lad (Mr. Day) in a hot double. We four pounded the livin crap out of each other for every inch of that water. We managed to edge those two and they were not cupcakes. That Was A Good Day. And then all those years LG and Shaun raced that Grey Ghost. And then "Team 205" adventures. ....	+	Best memories: my kid and me doing Great Cross Sound race. Shane B. and another stout lad (Mr. Day) in a hot double. We four pounded the livin crap out of each other for every inch of that water. We managed to edge those two and they were not cupcakes. That Was A Good Day. And then all those years LG and Shaun raced that Grey Ghost. And then "Team 205" adventures. ….

	Goog god I'm old. I'll shut up now.		Goog god I'm old. I'll shut up now.

-	Rick Lingbloom Jan 9 #33006	+	Rick Lingbloom Jan 9 #33006

	You’re going to have fun!		You’re going to have fun!
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-	Toby Cooper Jan 9 #33007	+	Toby Cooper Jan 9 #33007

	For my money, teamboats are totally more fun.		For my money, teamboats are totally more fun.
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-	Drew Biel Jan 10 #33015	+	Drew Biel Jan 10 #33015

	Dustin - thanks so much. This is all going to help.\\		Dustin - thanks so much. This is all going to help.\\

Downwind Technique

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Mon, 09 Mar 2026 18:28:08 +0000

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	Downwinding in a double is one way to get experience on bigger runs if you can team with a more experienced paddler. It is not uncommon for surfski instructors to introduce inexperienced paddlers to their first significant downwinding in a double surfski. Learning about bigger water in this manner can have some challenges, though. In sitting in the back of a surfski with the more experienced paddler steering in the front, one may get enough water in their seat to feel like they will imminently float off and out of the surfski. (Some doubles allow steering from either seat) The backseat paddler often gets a fairly steady shower of water in their face from the front seat paddle strokes. And even though the more experienced paddler may have the situation well in hand, it can feel to the less experienced paddler like their surfski is sometimes perilously off balance (though strong paddlers typically make double skis much more stable than inexperienced paddlers can make them on their own). //On the other hand, if your experience of your first big downwinder seems completely trouble free because you have an expert paddler in your double with you, don't be fooled into thinking it should immediately be as simple and problem free for you in a single surfski//. Bottom line - with a competent, experienced paddler in charge, a less experienced paddler can experience what an absolute blast downwinding can be in conditions that they are not yet capable of paddling solo.		Downwinding in a double is one way to get experience on bigger runs if you can team with a more experienced paddler. It is not uncommon for surfski instructors to introduce inexperienced paddlers to their first significant downwinding in a double surfski. Learning about bigger water in this manner can have some challenges, though. In sitting in the back of a surfski with the more experienced paddler steering in the front, one may get enough water in their seat to feel like they will imminently float off and out of the surfski. (Some doubles allow steering from either seat) The backseat paddler often gets a fairly steady shower of water in their face from the front seat paddle strokes. And even though the more experienced paddler may have the situation well in hand, it can feel to the less experienced paddler like their surfski is sometimes perilously off balance (though strong paddlers typically make double skis much more stable than inexperienced paddlers can make them on their own). //On the other hand, if your experience of your first big downwinder seems completely trouble free because you have an expert paddler in your double with you, don't be fooled into thinking it should immediately be as simple and problem free for you in a single surfski//. Bottom line - with a competent, experienced paddler in charge, a less experienced paddler can experience what an absolute blast downwinding can be in conditions that they are not yet capable of paddling solo.
		+	* [[:surfski_tables#double_surfskis\|Double Surfski Table]] (measurements & reviews)
	* Advice		* Advice
	* [[https://tcsurfski.com/2018/09/14/the-best-things-in-life-are-those-we-can-share/\|TCSurfski Tandem Paddling Experiences & Advice 9/2018]]		* [[https://tcsurfski.com/2018/09/14/the-best-things-in-life-are-those-we-can-share/\|TCSurfski Tandem Paddling Experiences & Advice 9/2018]]

Downwind.Fun Downwinder List

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Downwind Technique

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	Paul Reavley \\		Paul Reavley \\
-	Mar 2 #26155	+	Mar 2 #26155

	I've been rummaging around in old Whatcom paddler posts recently for various reasons. (We aren't running out of space yet, are we Reivers?) and I came across a couple of ancient posts (2005) by Erik Borgnes about basic downwind technique that seem well expressed.		I've been rummaging around in old Whatcom paddler posts recently for various reasons. (We aren't running out of space yet, are we Reivers?) and I came across a couple of ancient posts (2005) by Erik Borgnes about basic downwind technique that seem well expressed.

-	https://groups.io/g/Whatcompaddlers/message/356 and followup\\	+	[[https://groups.io/g/Whatcompaddlers/message/356\|https://groups.io/g/Whatcompaddlers/message/356]] and followup\\
-	https://groups.io/g/Whatcompaddlers/message/359	+	[[https://groups.io/g/Whatcompaddlers/message/359\|https://groups.io/g/Whatcompaddlers/message/359]]

	Would anyone have anything to add, express differently, or disagree with in these descriptions?		Would anyone have anything to add, express differently, or disagree with in these descriptions?

	Paul Reavley \\		Paul Reavley \\
-	Mar 2 #26156	+	Mar 2 #26156

	These posts were also saved by LG in the board files section in pdf and text format.		These posts were also saved by LG in the board files section in pdf and text format.

	Reivers Dustin \\		Reivers Dustin \\
-	Mar 2 #26157	+	Mar 2 #26157

-	I rarely understand what most people explain about wave-riding. Erik did well here. Of course I'll forget everything by tomorrow. Great revival post Paul.	+	I rarely understand what most people explain about wave-riding. Erik did well here. Of course I'll forget everything by tomorrow. Great revival post Paul.

-	I could not describe the details when I get it right. There is an electric feeling for the water, the timing, it all just pops. I definitely notice a confidence element, "being aggressive". Erik's comment about "Fishscales" is a key. Waves usually don't make nice rollers that continue on. That corn-row scenario is a blast, but is very special and fleeting. I don't think the elite paddlers description translates well to me. I'm trying to work with less quick power. Chicken-stick arms here, can't explode the boat to 8 or 9 mph in two seconds like some. I have learned a great deal watching Simon. I learn better watching. But what he is doing has been grown from so many years of feeling the water. He will crank the acceleration in when I Don't See Nuthin. I have said in the past that he surfs by sense of smell.	+	I could not describe the details when I get it right. There is an electric feeling for the water, the timing, it all just pops. I definitely notice a confidence element, "being aggressive". Erik's comment about "Fishscales" is a key. Waves usually don't make nice rollers that continue on. That corn-row scenario is a blast, but is very special and fleeting. I don't think the elite paddlers description translates well to me. I'm trying to work with less quick power. Chicken-stick arms here, can't explode the boat to 8 or 9 mph in two seconds like some. I have learned a great deal watching Simon. I learn better watching. But what he is doing has been grown from so many years of feeling the water. He will crank the acceleration in when I Don't See Nuthin. I have said in the past that he surfs by sense of smell.

	Nicholas Cryder \\		Nicholas Cryder \\
-	Mar 2 #26158	+	Mar 2 #26158

	Good stuff. Some classic tips. And I have to agree, Simon is the devil at surfing.		Good stuff. Some classic tips. And I have to agree, Simon is the devil at surfing.
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	As a thoroughbred mid-packer who doesn't come from a paddling background, I have become a big fan of simplification in my paddling; when it comes to downwind, there are really only two things I do; surf or sprint to my next surf. Anything else is not good.		As a thoroughbred mid-packer who doesn't come from a paddling background, I have become a big fan of simplification in my paddling; when it comes to downwind, there are really only two things I do; surf or sprint to my next surf. Anything else is not good.

-	In terms of recreational downwind and racing downwind, there is a big distinction to be made. Every top racer I know is masterful at keeping the ski running at its maximum possible speed at all times. So it's far less about fixating on surfing the wave you're on, and more about treating it as a launching pad to jump two or three waves ahead of you where you can be a cold hearted bastard and leave it as soon as you got what you wanted out of it (speed) and jump on to next wave set... two or three waves ahead.	+	In terms of recreational downwind and racing downwind, there is a big distinction to be made. Every top racer I know is masterful at keeping the ski running at its maximum possible speed at all times. So it's far less about fixating on surfing the wave you're on, and more about treating it as a launching pad to jump two or three waves ahead of you where you can be a cold hearted bastard and leave it as soon as you got what you wanted out of it (speed) and jump on to next wave set… two or three waves ahead.

-	So when to surf vs. when to sprint? Wind waves tend to roll in sets of three peaks; two big and one small. The first wave peak on the front of the set is the smallest, and the ones behind it are bigger. But they are all going the same speed and the same direction, unless they are running over another set or being run over (this happens more on big days. If another set is running over the set I am on, I change direction and surf them...). If you are on one of the back waves in a set, either wait for the set to fade or try to sneak ahead to the wave in front of the one you are on by charging down the trough at an angle to shoot the shoulder of the peak in front of you. If you are on the front wave, there will often be a 20 meter flat spot between sets that you want to be sprinting across as it forms and then closes shut. I use the wave I am on as a ramp to initiate my sprint, so I can jump across with less effort. As I sprint across the flat spot, I look left and right to see where the bigger, faster set will form in front of me. I do not stop sprinting until I land downhill and am surfing again. Surf, surf, surf then sprint. Repeat until stoned with endorphins.	+	So when to surf vs. when to sprint? Wind waves tend to roll in sets of three peaks; two big and one small. The first wave peak on the front of the set is the smallest, and the ones behind it are bigger. But they are all going the same speed and the same direction, unless they are running over another set or being run over (this happens more on big days. If another set is running over the set I am on, I change direction and surf them…). If you are on one of the back waves in a set, either wait for the set to fade or try to sneak ahead to the wave in front of the one you are on by charging down the trough at an angle to shoot the shoulder of the peak in front of you. If you are on the front wave, there will often be a 20 meter flat spot between sets that you want to be sprinting across as it forms and then closes shut. I use the wave I am on as a ramp to initiate my sprint, so I can jump across with less effort. As I sprint across the flat spot, I look left and right to see where the bigger, faster set will form in front of me. I do not stop sprinting until I land downhill and am surfing again. Surf, surf, surf then sprint. Repeat until stoned with endorphins.

	As I chip away at this subject over the years and learn little by little while simultaneously seeing a drop off in what I think I can do physically, the emphasis is counter intuitive; I find myself just getting a little bit better at manipulating the water to go just a little bit faster so that I don't have to sprint quite as hard as I land downwind a little bit sooner. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯		As I chip away at this subject over the years and learn little by little while simultaneously seeing a drop off in what I think I can do physically, the emphasis is counter intuitive; I find myself just getting a little bit better at manipulating the water to go just a little bit faster so that I don't have to sprint quite as hard as I land downwind a little bit sooner. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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-	Mar 3 #26159	+	Mar 3 #26159

-	I like and appreciate Erik’s wave theory approach, RD’s “be a slippery Saffa named Simon," and the KISS of DarthCryder. I’ve been meaning to write up some of the things that work for me, or that I see people doing wrong. Here’s a quick stab, much of which is likely regurg of what has already been posted and talked about for ages - but worth emphasizing - and perhaps some new tidbits that might be useful.	+	I like and appreciate Erik’s wave theory approach, RD’s “be a slippery Saffa named Simon," and the KISS of DarthCryder. I’ve been meaning to write up some of the things that work for me, or that I see people doing wrong. Here’s a quick stab, much of which is likely regurg of what has already been posted and talked about for ages - but worth emphasizing - and perhaps some new tidbits that might be useful.

	Don		Don

-	Stability: Use a boat that makes you very confident. Even a small amount of anxiety about stability (and actual instability) will decrease your performance. (Stability has both mental and physical components.)	+	Stability: Use a boat that makes you very confident. Even a small amount of anxiety about stability (and actual instability) will decrease your performance. (Stability has both mental and physical components.)

-	Relax (as opposed to “be aggressive.”). This will improve your stability and awareness. Lower your shoulders, relax your grip, breathe through your nose and belly, look around, talk to someone (or yourself). You should generally be able to carry on a conversation while down winding. (I’ve had some memorable conversations during races!). Take hard strokes, but in a relaxed way, not a tense way.	+	Relax (as opposed to “be aggressive.”). This will improve your stability and awareness. Lower your shoulders, relax your grip, breathe through your nose and belly, look around, talk to someone (or yourself). You should generally be able to carry on a conversation while down winding. (I’ve had some memorable conversations during races!). Take hard strokes, but in a relaxed way, not a tense way.

-	Posture: Lean forward from the hips, more than you think. The boat runs better with the weight shifted forward. Sometimes on waves I lean so far forward that my chest (PFD) is on my thighs, and can often “catch” waves without taking any strokes. Rarely lean back. Burying the nose is normal and expected. Only in really big conditions when it seems like you might pitch-pole is it perhaps advisable to lean back. (And first you should try to steer out of that situation, leaning back being the last resort.)	+	Posture: Lean forward from the hips, more than you think. The boat runs better with the weight shifted forward. Sometimes on waves I lean so far forward that my chest (PFD) is on my thighs, and can often “catch” waves without taking any strokes. Rarely lean back. Burying the nose is normal and expected. Only in really big conditions when it seems like you might pitch-pole is it perhaps advisable to lean back. (And first you should try to steer out of that situation, leaning back being the last resort.)

-	Paddle or lightly brace (paddle drag). Don’t hold your paddle in the air while surfing, as it takes more energy and increases tension. (Unless you’re a youngster with exceptional stability and energy to burn.)	+	Paddle or lightly brace (paddle drag). Don’t hold your paddle in the air while surfing, as it takes more energy and increases tension. (Unless you’re a youngster with exceptional stability and energy to burn.)

-	If you have to brace to prevent a huli, lean into it, not away from it. This is counterintuitive and takes practice. Almost anytime you see somebody huli, they are leaning away from the direction of the roll.	+	If you have to brace to prevent a huli, lean into it, not away from it. This is counterintuitive and takes practice. Almost anytime you see somebody huli, they are leaning away from the direction of the roll.

	Shift the stroke forward, early catch and early exit.		Shift the stroke forward, early catch and early exit.

-	Shift the brace forward, straight out to the side or slightly in front of you, not behind. Practice taking your next stroke on the same side as the brace.	+	Shift the brace forward, straight out to the side or slightly in front of you, not behind. Practice taking your next stroke on the same side as the brace.

-	Paddle hard enough to match the speed of the waves, and back off the power sooner than you think. You should rarely experience the “zoom” or “whoosh” of going down a wave face. You want to be near the peak. If you do over-power down a face, take advantage of that speed and keep going until you’ve caught your next ride, even if it means plowing into and through a small peak in front of you - it will dissipate. Another way to think about this is you want your speed graph not to be a series of deep valleys and high peaks (like 5 mph to 10 mph), but a series of smaller speed variations (7 - 9.5 mph).	+	Paddle hard enough to match the speed of the waves, and back off the power sooner than you think. You should rarely experience the “zoom” or “whoosh” of going down a wave face. You want to be near the peak. If you do over-power down a face, take advantage of that speed and keep going until you’ve caught your next ride, even if it means plowing into and through a small peak in front of you - it will dissipate. Another way to think about this is you want your speed graph not to be a series of deep valleys and high peaks (like 5 mph to 10 mph), but a series of smaller speed variations (7 - 9.5 mph).

	Don’t paddle with blinders on, but constantly scan forward, left, and right.		Don’t paddle with blinders on, but constantly scan forward, left, and right.

-	You generally want the nose of the boat to be in / over a trough, so look for them (“put your nose in the holes.”) But often the move is to aim for a flat or subtle low spot, that will subsequently become a trough. A wave convergence, two peaks coming together at an angle, will often become a low spot that you can scoot into.	+	You generally want the nose of the boat to be in / over a trough, so look for them (“put your nose in the holes.”) But often the move is to aim for a flat or subtle low spot, that will subsequently become a trough. A wave convergence, two peaks coming together at an angle, will often become a low spot that you can scoot into.

-	Be aware of and take advantage of wave patterns, but note that the pattern will typically change, so don’t get locked in. Respond to what you see and feel at the moment.	+	Be aware of and take advantage of wave patterns, but note that the pattern will typically change, so don’t get locked in. Respond to what you see and feel at the moment.

	Chase small waves, let the big ones catch you.		Chase small waves, let the big ones catch you.

-	Typically there are 3 options, left, straight, and right. Practically there’s usually only 2, as one of them is a “non-starter” (big wave peak, another paddler, shoreline, etc) or will take you off course. With two options, choose the easier option. For example, steering slightly one way onto an adjacent wave versus powering over a peak directly in front, or more radical steering the other way. (Being aware of multiple options requires previous points, like stability, relaxation, looking around, patterns, etc.)	+	Typically there are 3 options, left, straight, and right. Practically there’s usually only 2, as one of them is a “non-starter” (big wave peak, another paddler, shoreline, etc) or will take you off course. With two options, choose the easier option. For example, steering slightly one way onto an adjacent wave versus powering over a peak directly in front, or more radical steering the other way. (Being aware of multiple options requires previous points, like stability, relaxation, looking around, patterns, etc.)

	Visualize working through a continuum of waves, vs catching one wave at a time.		Visualize working through a continuum of waves, vs catching one wave at a time.

-	It’s OK to broach, especially in training, as your need to find the limits. When you broach, resist the urge to lay on the rudder pedal to correct, but instead either 1) paddle hard with the pedals neutral until you’ve regained steerage, and then steer back downwind, or in a minority of cases 2) lean back quickly and forcefully to re-engage the rudder, and then continue paddling. It takes some practice to know when option 2 is preferable, and sometimes it’s the only option (adjacent paddler or other hazard ahead).	+	It’s OK to broach, especially in training, as your need to find the limits. When you broach, resist the urge to lay on the rudder pedal to correct, but instead either 1) paddle hard with the pedals neutral until you’ve regained steerage, and then steer back downwind, or in a minority of cases 2) lean back quickly and forcefully to re-engage the rudder, and then continue paddling. It takes some practice to know when option 2 is preferable, and sometimes it’s the only option (adjacent paddler or other hazard ahead).

	If you swamp the footwell, a quick, hard lean after the wave passes is a fast way to unload much of that water weight, making it easier to rebuild your speed.		If you swamp the footwell, a quick, hard lean after the wave passes is a fast way to unload much of that water weight, making it easier to rebuild your speed.

-	In small waves that require a lot of “up and overs,” work a small angle to the waves. This reduces the slope of the wave relative to the boat, and takes less effort.	+	In small waves that require a lot of “up and overs,” work a small angle to the waves. This reduces the slope of the wave relative to the boat, and takes less effort.

	Jeff Hegedus		Jeff Hegedus

-	Mar 8 #26181	+	Mar 8 #26181

-	don't think just be	+	don't think just be

	allipp01 \\		allipp01 \\
-	Mar 9 #26182	+	Mar 9 #26182

	My theory is go as easy as you can and as hard as you gotta. Works for me🏄		My theory is go as easy as you can and as hard as you gotta. Works for me🏄

	Tyler Irwin \\		Tyler Irwin \\
-	Mar 9 #26183	+	Mar 9 #26183

	One of the best surfing/downwinding videos that has come out recently is of Kai Bartlett doing a Maui to Lanai run. Just watching how he approaches surfing is a clinic in itself.		One of the best surfing/downwinding videos that has come out recently is of Kai Bartlett doing a Maui to Lanai run. Just watching how he approaches surfing is a clinic in itself.

-	[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGtCYEStH2c&fbclid=IwAR2C_7mJ1nui4McMn1NjIcDHbtR8UYhPdZNqqxb92AJNEExubADY4AXKROo\|Kai Wa'a Maui to Lanai DW Surfing]]	+	<WRAP centeralign>
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Deception Pass race report

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:51 +0000

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	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	12/09/19 #25720
	+
	+	This year’s race was hosted by Rob Casey of Salmon Bay Paddle. Entry was limited to 50 boats as Rob gets the logistics sorted out but he assured us the race would be open to 200+ contestants next year.\\
	+	\\
	+	It was a pretty even mix of surfski, OC, kayaks and SUP, as well as Tyler P in a single rowing shell. I raced with Paul C in the double ski. We had a solid start and took the early lead ahead of Don K and Andrew McEwan (Portland/Hood River) and Tyler. We carved through the kelp beds as we rounded Deception Island. Don and Andrew snuck up along the island on a clear path while Paul and I kelp-hopped outside to catch some big rollers coming in from a passing boat. The gamble paid off and we surfed ahead towards the Pass. From there we settled into a rhythm and took conservative lines for the rest of the course.
	+
	+	It was a pretty calm day with only a few bumps on the exposed west side of Deception Island and the normal whirlpools under the bridge. The ebb built quickly so the slower craft had a challenge as they crossed under the bridge towards Strawberry I. but all except two boats completed the course.
	+
	+	Andrew M out-sprinted Don K for the first single finish and Kim/Beau were the first OC. Gavin Godfrey (Seattle) was the first OC-1 with Tony H (Vancouver) battling Peter M for 2nd and 3rd respectively. Vaughn B and Brian F had a solid races as well.
	+
	+	Overall it was a fun event without all the fanfare that turned a lot of folks off in recent years. The heart of this race is some devoted paddlers testing themselves against each other in a unique and challenging venue. I think Rob and his crew respected that and I look forward racing again next year.
	+
	+	KO
	+
	+	https://www.webscorer.com/racedetails?raceid=205143
	+

didn' we talk about this?

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:51 +0000

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	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	02/20/17 #20692
	+
	+	What I would like to know is how do you not paddle behind or next to someone if you are both going the same place? Pretty much one guy will be ahead and the other guy behind, right? Is there some reason the guy behind needs to go visit his aunt martha a few feet over? Just so he doesn't disturb the front guy's inner harmony?
	+
	+	Some of you kids need to have paddled next to david back in the day. LB you should drag up that phot-shopped image of David in his battleship. Not to bruise anyone's tender self image, but dang guys. There is not a race EVER that had no drafting. It can't be done, I don't care how many rules you write. When Joost did world marathon's he came back with some stories about how abusive other paddlers get.
	+
	+	One of my early races was in Dease Slough just across the border. I was dicing really hard with these two really cute girls in a pro-boat. We came up to the bridge piling under Hwy 99 there and these gals tried to KILL me. If I didn't want to drown I had to give way. After the race I talked to them. You know, being the smooth guy I am, I said, "uhgn, ...you know you gals race kinda tough up here. ... hehe." They smiled so nice and laughed and said, "yeah boy. what were you out there doing? It's a race!"
	+
	+	Then there was a Whatcom Classic and I had set up great behind an OC-2. Another OC-2 worked up alongside and used their amma to squeeze me off my ride. I was hot. I thought I would go hard and show these guys. Instead I blew up trying to hang with them. Found out later they were world class paddlers. Here's the thing about that. I had it in mind to flip their amma and dump them. The problem with that plan is that they were probably good enough to come back from it and cause me some trouble later.
	+
	+	Get LB to tell you about drafting Greg B. in a big race, where they tried to knock him out with tree branches. And then when he saves their paddle for them they don't say like, "awefully good of you, what?" "thanks ever so much", ... more like here's a sand bar, let see you break off your rudder.
	+
	+	You guys making a thing out of drafting need to talk to one of the big dogs. I guess it matters when you gain advantage from a boat out of your class. More important: I really value sportsmanship. Especially around newer paddlers. However, some of the talk coming across is a lot like whining.
	+
	+	hmm. was that a rant? did I kinda go off there? sorry guys. but dang. there's no crying in paddling!!!!
	+
	+	rd
	+

Drills on the water

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	- One Finger Drill. Hold the paddle shaft between your thumb to one finger. Paddle with no power. Good for overall formwork.		- One Finger Drill. Hold the paddle shaft between your thumb to one finger. Paddle with no power. Good for overall formwork.
		+	- ...
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Drills Dryland

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	* Anti Rotation [[https://www.instagram.com/reel/CRQHoqygNZw/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link\|drill video]] cement and strengthen core/leg thrust connection		* Anti Rotation [[https://www.instagram.com/reel/CRQHoqygNZw/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link\|drill video]] cement and strengthen core/leg thrust connection
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Drysuits

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-	Latex will age and become more vulnerable to tears and failure overtime. Depending on degree of use and how well they are cared for online guides recommend replacement somewhere between every 1 - 3 years. If you paddle in risky conditions you will probably want to err on the conservative side and replace them sooner rather than later on a regular schedule. Neoprene is generally considerably more durable than latex and should not have to be replaced as often.	+	Latex will age and become more vulnerable to tears and failure over time. Depending on degree of use and how well they are cared for online guides recommend replacement somewhere between every 1 - 3 years. If you paddle in risky conditions you will probably want to err on the conservative side and replace them sooner rather than later on a regular schedule. Neoprene is generally considerably more durable than latex and should not have to be replaced as often.

	There are different methods used to attach waterproof gaskets to drysuits. Some are hot glued on while others are stitched and taped. You may need to send your stuff to your manufacturer to get repaired. Some dive shops do drysuit repair and may have the capability of repairing/replacing your gaskets whichever way they have been connected to your dry clothing.		There are different methods used to attach waterproof gaskets to drysuits. Some are hot glued on while others are stitched and taped. You may need to send your stuff to your manufacturer to get repaired. Some dive shops do drysuit repair and may have the capability of repairing/replacing your gaskets whichever way they have been connected to your dry clothing.

Drysuits 11/20/2013

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:52 +0000

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	+	Reivers Dustin
	+
	+	11/30/13 #15184
	+
	+	…. But I can't handle dry suit unless it's blowing, very cold and big conditions where there's a lot of spray.
	+
	+	The tricky part is not going by how cold I am on the beach. I see a lot of you guys in dry suits when it would kill me. It's not just about the temperature: wind effect and lots of water spray are two other huge elements in the equation. I gota have a decent heat balance for the engine to work good.
	+
	+	rd
	+
	+	saltspringken
	+
	+	11/30/13 #15193
	+
	+	Hi All,
	+
	+	I have an old Kokatat drysuit that I hate to paddle in. Too hot and restrictive. Tried some of the newer wetsuits recently and couldn't find one that fit me well. Long story short, just got a Kokatat light weight paddle suit and it is incredibly comfortable, not overly warm and no restricted movement. Not cheap, but the best thing I have found for paddling in cooler temps. It seems like it will work in a pretty wide range of temps. Breaths great…. I can't say enough good things about it. Did remount practice a few times in it and dry as a bone.\\
	+	(//original link no longer valid [[https://kokatat.com/\|kokatat.com]]// )
	+
	+	Ken
	+

VHS, DSC, testing

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:53 +0000

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	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	01/10/17 #20462
	+
	+	I got an email from 'the matrix' to update my MMSI number on my marine radio. If you own a VHF radio with Digital Select Calling (DSC) and you have registered it with the Coasties and got your unit an MMSI number, then you must have put in an emergency contact and phone numbers and addresses. what ever.
	+
	+	So I went to www.boatus.com and found out there was an old address and some other junk in there. Glad I fixed it. Now Agent Smith wont shoot me. Also, I found this little tidbit. One of the problems has been no way to test. If you push the little red button, it is not a drill. (Can you say, "FINE"?, I like the way you say that.) So here from the website:
	+
	+	Do not test the red button as this will send out an illegal false alarm and cause an unnecessary rescue response! Instead, you may run a test call to the nationwide Coast Guard MMSI number, 003669999. Enter this number into your radio's calling memory and select the "Test Call" option from the radio's list of individual DSC calls. You can then press the "call" or "enter" key. Your radio will silently hail the Coast Guard with a digital signal on channel 70. If everything is working properly, your radio will almost immediately receive the Coast Guard's acknowledgement of your call, providing assurance that both your radio and the Rescue21 system are operating properly. You must be boating in an area served by Rescue2l to use this test.
	+
	+	rd
	+

DSC vs EPIRB

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	+	=== DSC on your raydeo ===
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	+	Reivers Dustin 01/09/14 #15284
	+
	+	More stuff about Digital Select Calling ... (note distingtion between 'near shore' and 'far shore')...
	+
	+	IMPORTANT SAFETY NOTE. . DSC Distress Calls notify boats and stations in the immediate area in real time that you require assistance. A 406 EPIRB or PLB can take up to two hours to notify Rescue Centers ashore that you require assistance. DSC Distress calls give your exact position while an EPIRB gives tracking stations info to calculate your position within two miles. The locating beacon on an EPIRB/PLB requires a direction finder to locate you within that two mile circle. 406 GPIRBs (an EPIRB with a built in GPS) will reduce the time and give the Rescue Control Center an exact position which can be relayed to vessels in your area but this also takes time. The best combination appears to be to have your DSC VHF plus a 406 GPIRB for offshore rescues. //For inshore/near shore rescue it is hard to find anything better than a DSC VHF equipped radio, and the price is minor.//
	+
	+	MMSI Numbers for your VHF Radio’s Directory
	+
	+	The following numbers should be programmed into your VHF radio:
	+
	+	USCG Ships/Vessels (all within range) 036699999
	+
	+	USCG Stations (all within range) 003669999
	+
	+	SeaTow 033801999
	+
	+	Tow Boat US 033804000
	+

Dubai

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:53 +0000

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	+	**1000m semifinal 1\\
	+	Egor Klevak**08/25/23 #34318 \\
	+	https://youtu.be/_zQYuMJurNw?si=67o0UIxoCPdUdAP9
	+
	+	**500 K2 semifinal 1\\
	+	David Scherrer** \\
	+	08/26/23 #34321
	+
	+	OK Jonas and Aaron finished 5th in the semi final A group, K2 500....Hard to understand, but I heard the commentator state that the final 6 teams in the final race will be going to the Olympics.\\
	+	But first they have to finish another race in the "B" group as well. So perhaps someone could explain this to me.....\\
	+	Also, will they be competing in the K2 1000 as well?\\
	+	Thanks,\\
	+	D.
	+
	+	Jonas Ecker \\
	+	08/26/23 #34322 \\
	+	Hey Guys, thanks for all the support and interest!
	+
	+	We raced our K2 500 SF yesterday which is the only Olympic distance for men’s double kayak. We put together a good race but it wasn’t quite enough to put us in the A Final. We did however qualify for the B Final so that will be another great opportunity to race.
	+
	+	After today we head to Paris for the Olympic test event where Aaron and I will race K2 500 again and both race K1 1000.
	+
	+	Although it is disappointing to not make it through to the A Final to fight for quota spots we will have another opportunity in the spring and we can do lots to improve between now and then.
	+
	+	Thanks again for all the support and interest, happy paddling!
	+
	+	Jonas Ecker
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin 08/27/23 #34323
	+
	+	So hard to follow. Thanks for catching this David and great explanation Jonas. I can't imagine all the details that go into peaking at the right time. ....and where did hilde make me put my socks?
	+
	+	oh. I put 'em there.
	+
	+	Toby Cooper 08/27/23 #34324
	+
	+	Congratulations Jonas and Aaron! You have fans here on sleepy Orcas I., too. We have been glued to the Planet Canoe YouTube channel all weekend.
	+
	+	One of the highlights was your 1000 SF against Varga. Jonas quit? NOT!
	+
	+	The K2 500 A final was amazing. Eight boats under 1:30. The time spread from 1st to 9th was less than 1.5 seconds.
	+
	+	Good luck in Paris.
	+
	+	Toby
	+
	+	Leslie Mittendorf 08/28/23 #34330
	+
	+	Awesome work, Jonas! Good luck in Paris!
	+
	+	Jonas and Aaron \\
	+	Larry Bussinger \\
	+	08/29/23 #34331
	+
	+	First, congratulations!
	+
	+	Second, they made the ‘23 Padding Buyers Guide Magazine! They got their picture in the K2 finish. The article was about ACA paddlesports.\\
	+	Larry B
	+
	+	Denise Weeks \\
	+	08/29/23 #34332 \\
	+	As per Larry’s keen eye:
	+
	+	{{:races:international:jonas_aaron.jpeg?direct&300x413}}
	+

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Midwest USA - East North Central Surfski

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		+	* Sterling State Park [[https://youtu.be/ho30XrKWVzc?t=161\|board surfer video]]
	* Lake Huron		* Lake Huron
	* Downwind		* Downwind

Eastern Cape (Oos-Kaap), South Africa Surfski

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	* Across JBay 42 km [[https://youtu.be/kX7-V4rYOTM\|video]] St Francis Bay (Bruce's? meaning cafe or beach?) - Van Staden's (meaning road/river mouth?)		* Across JBay 42 km [[https://youtu.be/kX7-V4rYOTM\|video]] St Francis Bay (Bruce's? meaning cafe or beach?) - Van Staden's (meaning road/river mouth?)
-	* Nahoon - Glen Eden 18 km [[https://youtu.be/mfJcfALQEPI\|video]]	+	* Nahoon - Glen Eden 18 km [[https://youtu.be/mfJcfALQEPI\|video]], [[https://youtu.be/mfJcfALQEPI\|reverse video]]
	* St. Francis Bay [[https://youtu.be/zMoGqVC0B0k\|video]]		* St. Francis Bay [[https://youtu.be/zMoGqVC0B0k\|video]]
	* Aston Bay - Seekoei River Mouth (Laps?, Surf?, Flatwater?)		* Aston Bay - Seekoei River Mouth (Laps?, Surf?, Flatwater?)

eastofhoodriver

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Contributing to Surfski.wiki

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-	If you would like to add information to the wiki please email your content, edits and suggestions to [[surfskiwiki@gmail.com,dan@surfski.wiki\|surfski.wiki email]]. Due to security issues new registrations were shutoff in 2022. If you want to submit material please use our email address.	+	If you would like to add information to the wiki please email your content, edits and suggestions to [[surfskiwiki@gmail.com,dan@surfski.wiki\|surfski.wiki email]]. If you have a lot of photos or larger files we can provide a gdrive or dropbox address where you can upload them. Due to security issues new registrations were shutoff in 2022. If you want to submit material please use our email address.

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Video editing

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:54 +0000

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	+	====== Video editing ======
	+
	+	Dennis Mowry \\
	+	11/20/20 #28096
	+
	+	Which program are people using for editing GoPro videos? For PC not Mac. I used Movie Maker before but doesn't look the same. Just playing around,\\
	+	:D'
	+
	+	Paul Reavley \\
	+	11/20/20 #28097
	+
	+	Dennis,
	+
	+	I am assuming when you say PC you also mean Windows (could be Linux). Until recently I was using the old Windows Movie Maker that shipped with older versions of Windows, continued to be downloadable from MS, then eventually disappeared (the Movie Maker that is available online now is not the same app). It was relatively simple and worked okay on my old (6+ yrs) slow laptop. I recently upgraded my computer so I now have computing power to run some of the more full featured video editors. I am slowly learning to use the free version of DaVinci Resolve, but it has a ton of options and is going to take me some time to get up to speed with.
	+
	+	If you want simple, you could try the Photos application that ships with Windows 10 - you can edit videos with it. There is other free Windows video editing software - if you want something in between Photos and the kitchen sink like Resolve maybe someone else can recommend their favorite.
	+
	+	Paul
	+
	+	Dan Mahar \\
	+	11/21/20 #28098
	+
	+	I’d recommend Filmora. It’s cheap and relatively easy to use.
	+
	+	gsouthstone \\
	+	11/21/20 #28099
	+
	+	ShotCut was the free software that I chose to flitter untold hours with.\\
	+	G
	+
	+	Paul Reavley
	+
	+	11/21/20 #28100
	+
	+	By the way, Dennis, when you say your video "doesn't look the same" it could simply be a question of what resolution settings you are using. If your clips look okay to you when you first look at them before editing then the resolution setting you are using on your GoPro for recording is probably okay. Although if you are talking about some of those videos you shot 8 yrs ago, the GoPro you might have used then would have had noticeably lower resolution than more recent models.
	+
	+	Are you talking about the way your videos look after you upload them to youtube or vimeo? I have noticed that some built in/default output to youtube resolution settings on some video editing software drops the resolution more than I like. So in that case I may choose a higher output resolution option. Youtube and vimeo (vimeo will stream higher rez videos if you have a pay membership) are going to compress your video in any case so it may be better to start with a higher resolution file before you upload it there. Usually finding what upload rez you want to use is simply a matter of experimenting with some very short clips, uploading them, and looking at their online quality. A slower internet connection can cause video streaming services to drop the rez you are viewing at, but I am assuming that is not your problem because you are comparing your videos to videos from other folks that you are also viewing via your internet connection. Higher rez files will take somewhat longer to upload.
	+
	+	Any way, however you are outputing your videos for viewing, you may want to see if you can choose a higher resolution for that output - if that seems possible to be your issue with how your videos look. There are other video recording and output options you can look into that can affect the appearance of your videos. If you want we can discuss those offline.
	+
	+	Denise Weeks \\
	+	11/21/20 #28101
	+
	+	Hi Dennis,
	+
	+	I’m on a Mac, so my tools (imovie) wouldn’t work for you.
	+
	+	Here’s a short one from yesterday, though: https://youtu.be/PrVruNv4OaA
	+
	+	Not going to beat Collin’s recent hits. No survival paddling here.
	+
	+	Denise
	+
	+	Dennis Mowry \\
	+	11/21/20 #28102
	+
	+	Here's a experiment from Friday.\\
	+	There's still plenty to learn taking the vids and especially the editing process. I tried about 3 programs, some are way overwhelming. Nothing like all the others with the color, music and fancy editing. Sure is a lot of work. This one is from the most simple one. It's still fun mind surfing watching the waves.
	+
	+	:D'
	+
	+	:Debut:\\
	+	[[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lft4n77riiJtzFEXIH2v2agHANC1blnd/view?usp=drivesdk\|AnaFlyby.mp4]]
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin
	+
	+	11/21/20 #28103
	+
	+	that looked great dMow. I could see the rides, where you hammered, hear you working it. interesting to watch.
	+
	+	Dennis Mowry \\
	+	11/21/20 #28104
	+
	+	I was winded mainly from paddling upwind, ha ha. I don't get out enough so I breathe like that anytime I paddle.\\
	+	The waves and the boat did all the downwind work.
	+
	+	It is fun watching the waves. It's difficult seeing Ana approaching in the distance.
	+
	+	:D'
	+
	+	David Hooper \\
	+	11/22/20 #28105
	+
	+	Nice, Dennis! That Flex sure seems sweet in the waves. Was your GoPro on your head? When I did that for my first paddling video, I was amazed at how loud my breathing was. That's partly why I put music to mine - helped hide the huffing and puffing!
	+
	+	Dave H.
	+
	+	allipp@...
	+
	+	11/24/20 #28123
	+
	+	After Windows Movie Maker went away, I kind of got out of doing any kind of real editing and was just trimming my videos into short clips on the photo editor.
	+
	+	This discussion kind of renewed my interest, and I decided to see what I could do with the Windows Video Editor App which, apparently, is available on anything equipped with Windows 10. Here's what I came up with from today's downwind paddle.
	+
	+	https://vimeo.com/483315232
	+
	+	Dennis Mowry \\
	+	11/27/20 #28146
	+
	+	The GoPro was mounted on a head strap. I was trying it out to see which angle would work. I think it should be facing downward a little more. One nice thing about using the head strap is I turned it sideways on my head when surfing next to LG. It's easier than constantly looking sideways. Also it could be faced backwards. The head mount takes some getting use to turning on & off, which saves batteries. It's a little difficult getting my hands back into the pogies. I tried the stern mount which shows the paddler but my batteries quit before I turned around, I've since gotten new batteries and thinking of buying the 1600 mAh battery for that purpose. 1 hr/ verses 45 min? Any feedback on the max batteries anybody?
	+
	+	It is fun but with all the work involved in editing I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. Maybe there's a place for ghetto vids.\\
	+	:D'
	+
	+	Dennis Mowry
	+
	+	11/27/20 #28147
	+
	+	Does anyone need a set of batteries for a GoPro 3. I have a brand new pair sent to me by mistake.\\
	+	Just let me know,\\
	+	:D'
	+
	+	Paul Reavley
	+
	+	11/27/20 #28150
	+
	+	Dennis,
	+
	+	If you get 3rd party batteries I will be interested in how they turn out. I got some cheapo "Artman" 1480 mAh batteries for my Hero 7 Black and they are fine for dryland activities where it is easy to swap out batteries. But my Artman batteries only last 2/3 of the time that my original 1220 mAh GoPro battery lasts.
	+
	+	Dennis Mowry \\
	+	11/27/20 #28151
	+
	+	Mine are Wasabi, 3-4 yrs old. They don't last that long now so they sent new ones, which was nice. They got mixed up and sent 3's, so they sent another pair of 5's and said to pass on the 3s.
	+
	+	I got them today. I'll try them out and let you know.\\
	+	:D'
	+

Electronics

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Thu, 06 Nov 2025 01:41:07 +0000

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	==== On Water Communication ====		==== On Water Communication ====

-	* See also Freeing Your Hands to Use Signaling Devices	+	* See also [[:stories:safe_happy_water#on_water_hands_use_position\|Freeing Your Hands to Use Signaling Devices]]
	* [[https://bbtalkin.co.nz/product-category/headsets/\|BBtalkin New Zealand]]		* [[https://bbtalkin.co.nz/product-category/headsets/\|BBtalkin New Zealand]]
	* [[https://www.amazon.com/Retevis-Walkie-Talkies-Acoustic-Earpiece/dp/B01MA1YK26/ref=sr_1_17?crid=YYAY1RMHMSYP&keywords=retevis+rt622&qid=1663846860&sprefix=retevis+rt622,aps,194&sr=8-17&th=1\|Retevis RT22]] very inexpensive with good sound quality. Not waterproof but works very well with [[https://surflogic.com/shop/waterproof-bags-backpacks/waterproof-phone-case-blue/\|Surflogic's waterproof phone case]] (this is what Boyan in Tarifa has been using on the water for his downwinding classes as of 2022)		* [[https://www.amazon.com/Retevis-Walkie-Talkies-Acoustic-Earpiece/dp/B01MA1YK26/ref=sr_1_17?crid=YYAY1RMHMSYP&keywords=retevis+rt622&qid=1663846860&sprefix=retevis+rt622,aps,194&sr=8-17&th=1\|Retevis RT22]] very inexpensive with good sound quality. Not waterproof but works very well with [[https://surflogic.com/shop/waterproof-bags-backpacks/waterproof-phone-case-blue/\|Surflogic's waterproof phone case]] (this is what Boyan in Tarifa has been using on the water for his downwinding classes as of 2022)

Eliza Is. to Portage Bay

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:54 +0000

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	+	**Nice morning!\\
	+	Nicholas Cryder** \\
	+	06/30/18 #23323
	+
	+	Put in at the Harbor at 7 this AM and paddled up to Wildcat Cove in 1’ chop before the wind came up. Ran into fellow early bird Josh at MP. Wind turned on just enough on the for a nice downwind back. I noticed the wind looked better near Eliza so I surfed that direction and was surprised how fun the waves were over there. Long, wide and glassy... Like groomed ski runs. There must be a tidal feature over there that sets them up like that between Eliza and Portage Bay, because I’ve run into those waves before in that exact spot. Had a couple of rides with my paddle on my lap that went for almost a minute. About 2 miles out from the Harbor a CG boat roared up next to me and I had a nice chat with them as they surfed next to me for a KM. Those boats are super cool. The guys are great too, asked if I had a whistle and radio (yes and yes). Thumbs up!
	+

Elk River, Shaw, Wed, Thur, Mon, Oh my!

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:55 +0000

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	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	07/30/19 #25256
	+
	+	No days off in the PNW summer race season! Here’s a few highlights from last weekend and mention of upcoming events:
	+
	+	I had the pleasure of racing the Elk River Challenge last Saturday. It was a technical course in and around the Elk River Estuary near Westport, WA. By technical I mean narrow channels, submerged obstacles, shallow water and a necessary degree of routefinding skill. I battled with Peter T and Juraj in their double and Egor K in a single. I managed to hang on to the double for most of the race but they pulled away on the last leg and beat me by nearly a minute. It was a fun and festive event complete with bbq oysters, clam chowder and prizes of fresh crab after the race.
	+
	+	https://www.webscorer.com/racedetails?raceid=189422&did=209668
	+
	+	The highlight of the weekend was camping at Vern and Janet Heikkila’s. They are most gracious hosts and we got to hang out with a bunch of Sound Rowers for more bbq and music.
	+
	+	Next weekend is the Round Shaw Row. (...)
	+
	+	Lots happening! Stay safe on the water and enjoy the season!
	+
	+	KO
	+

emergency_signal_devices

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 26 Oct 2025 16:26:07 +0000

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	* "Waterproofness" - the weak point on some VHF radios can be the covering over charge ports (make sure they are completely closed and if you need to - cover the closure with tape). Trouble has been reported with some models that have a cover (possibly due to forgetting to make sure the cover is on correctly). Some models like the Horizon HX40 have solid exposed pins for charging which may provide a more reliable water tight seal but is still subject to corrosion.		* "Waterproofness" - the weak point on some VHF radios can be the covering over charge ports (make sure they are completely closed and if you need to - cover the closure with tape). Trouble has been reported with some models that have a cover (possibly due to forgetting to make sure the cover is on correctly). Some models like the Horizon HX40 have solid exposed pins for charging which may provide a more reliable water tight seal but is still subject to corrosion.
	* See [[:waterproof_ratings\|Electronics water resistance ratings]]		* See [[:waterproof_ratings\|Electronics water resistance ratings]]
-	* Sealed charging pins will lose their connection over time for charging due to corrosion on the radio pins and/or the connections in the charging cradle. See Galvanic Corrosion above in the [[:emergency_signal_devices#maintenance\|Maintenance section]]. Cradle replacements can be expensive but another alternative is to use the rechargeable battery pack that some manufacturers like Horizon include with your radio. Typically the AAA batteries you use in such a pack will not hold as much charge as the original single battery, but you should easily be able to keep fully charged batteries of this type ready to go with your radio. Some boaters have solved this charging corrosion problem by keeping an extra radio that does not go in the water exclusively for charging their batteries. They pull the charged batteries from their charging radio and put them into their on-water use radio.	+	* Sealed charging pins will lose their connection over time for charging due to corrosion on the radio pins and/or the connections in the charging cradle. See Galvanic Corrosion in section above. Cradle replacements can be expensive but another alternative is to use the rechargeable battery pack that some manufacturers like Horizon include with your radio. Typically the AAA batteries you use in such a pack will not hold as much charge as the original single battery, but you should easily be able to keep fully charged batteries of this type ready to go with your radio. Some boaters have solved this charging corrosion problem by keeping an extra radio that does not go in the water exclusively for charging their batteries. They pull the charged batteries from their charging radio and put them into their on-water use radio.
	* Jeff Hegedus <jhegedus@…>11/06/11 #11683 "I rinsed my IPX7 rated waterproof handheld after every paddle, and the two copper electrodes between the gasketed snap-in rechargeable battery pack and the main unit still fully corroded (they are spring loaded for a good connection, and the spring failed). Its something that you wouldn't normally notice until failure occurs; I had it serviced, and now keep the radio in a dry bag when in my pfd pocket. The dry bags can be purchased at West Marine. Handhelds are not really designed for daily immersion, but rather for boaters that occasionally get them wet…"		* Jeff Hegedus <jhegedus@…>11/06/11 #11683 "I rinsed my IPX7 rated waterproof handheld after every paddle, and the two copper electrodes between the gasketed snap-in rechargeable battery pack and the main unit still fully corroded (they are spring loaded for a good connection, and the spring failed). Its something that you wouldn't normally notice until failure occurs; I had it serviced, and now keep the radio in a dry bag when in my pfd pocket. The dry bags can be purchased at West Marine. Handhelds are not really designed for daily immersion, but rather for boaters that occasionally get them wet…"
	* **Followup 2012 \\		* **Followup 2012 \\

From the Epic website FAQ - Greg Barton

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:55 +0000

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	By the way, all Epic Kayaks are polished with a high speed buffer before leaving the factory, so they are ready to go when you buy them. However, if your boat is older and you notice the finish is not as smooth or shiny after exposure to sun, saltwater and/or pond scum, then a good cleaning and polishing (with or without wax) will put some more speed back into your boat!		By the way, all Epic Kayaks are polished with a high speed buffer before leaving the factory, so they are ready to go when you buy them. However, if your boat is older and you notice the finish is not as smooth or shiny after exposure to sun, saltwater and/or pond scum, then a good cleaning and polishing (with or without wax) will put some more speed back into your boat!

-	So go ahead and wax your boat if you are so inclined. It will keep your boat cleaner and help protect the surface from UV light (you can also products such as 303 Protectant that will preserve the finish of your boat). While the wax may not give a noticeable drag reduction compared to an otherwise clean, smooth hull, it just might give you a psychological boost knowing that you have the shiniest hull in the race!	+	So go ahead and wax your boat if you are so inclined. It will keep your boat cleaner and help protect the surface from UV light (you can also use products such as 303 Protectant that will preserve the finish of your boat). While the wax may not give a noticeable drag reduction compared to an otherwise clean, smooth hull, it just might give you a psychological boost knowing that you have the shiniest hull in the race!

EPIRBs

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:55 +0000

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-	GPS enabled EPIRBs are much preferable to basic EPIRBs. But if you are taking "near shore" marine outings as probably the majority of surfski, outrigger, and other human powered small boats are, VHF radios are the safety tool of choice, particularly DSC enabled and registered VHF radios. The exception would be if you are paddling where it is unlikely for any boats, the Coast Guard, or VHF relays to receive your broadcasts. Note that the VHF safety network needs to be kept in good repair (not always the case): [[https://www.kbbi.org/post/coast-guard-unable-monitor-vhf-channel-16-new-contractors-hired-repair#stream/0\|Alaska]]	+	GPS enabled EPIRBs are much preferable to basic EPIRBs. But if you are taking "near shore" marine outings as probably the majority of surfski, outrigger, and other human powered small boats are, VHF radios are the safety tool of choice in US waterways, particularly DSC enabled and registered VHF radios. The exception would be if you are paddling where it is unlikely for any boats, the US Coast Guard, or VHF relays to receive your broadcasts. Note that the VHF safety network needs to be kept in good repair (not always the case): [[https://www.kbbi.org/post/coast-guard-unable-monitor-vhf-channel-16-new-contractors-hired-repair#stream/0\|Alaska]]

	==== Sources ====		==== Sources ====

epoxy_additions

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Estonia Surfski

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	===== Resources =====		===== Resources =====

Excuses List

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:55 +0000

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-	(Suggested by Neil Bransfield)	+	(Suggested by Neil Bransfield) - Please contribute your own

	- I don’t usually paddle well on days that end with the letters "d-a-y".		- I don’t usually paddle well on days that end with the letters "d-a-y".

Exercise Equipment

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:56 +0000

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Exercise Equipment

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 13 Jul 2025 13:59:09 +0000

Understanding the Two Main Causes of Sailing Winds on the Great Lake

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	This text from - [[https://www.greatlakesscuttlebutt.com/news/sailing/understanding-the-two-main-causes-of-sailing-winds-on-the-great-lakes/\|Wind on the Great Lakes]] (Great Lakes Skuttlebutt website)		This text from - [[https://www.greatlakesscuttlebutt.com/news/sailing/understanding-the-two-main-causes-of-sailing-winds-on-the-great-lakes/\|Wind on the Great Lakes]] (Great Lakes Skuttlebutt website)
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	System Enhancement of Lake Side Breezes \\ Because there are no buildings or trees to slow surface winds over the lake, onshore breezes are often stronger at the lake than inland. This lack of surface friction is also the reason why system winds off the lake seem to blow so hard.		System Enhancement of Lake Side Breezes \\ Because there are no buildings or trees to slow surface winds over the lake, onshore breezes are often stronger at the lake than inland. This lack of surface friction is also the reason why system winds off the lake seem to blow so hard.

-	{{https://www.greatlakesscuttlebutt.com/clientuploads/news/August 2012/SailingWinds_KenQ3.jpg?nolink&\|sailingwinds_kenq3.jpg}}Why Does the Wind Always Seem to Die in the Evening, Even on an Offshore Day? \\ There are almost always upper level winds blowing above the surface. During the day, the uneven heating of the land by the sun creates raising pockets of air that mix with the upper level winds. This mixing of the air pulls some of the upper level winds down during the day creating windier conditions at the surface. In the evening, as the sun sets, this mixing subsides and the upper level winds return to a more stable position above the water surface.	+	{{https://www.greatlakesscuttlebutt.com/clientuploads/news/August 2012/SailingWinds_KenQ3.jpg?nolink&\|sailingwinds_kenq3.jpg}}
		+
		+	Why Does the Wind Always Seem to Die in the Evening, Even on an Offshore Day?
		+
		+	There are almost always upper level winds blowing above the surface. During the day, the uneven heating of the land by the sun creates raising pockets of air that mix with the upper level winds. This mixing of the air pulls some of the upper level winds down during the day creating windier conditions at the surface. In the evening, as the sun sets, this mixing subsides and the upper level winds return to a more stable position above the water surface.

	Watch for the Dreaded Transition Zone \\ A transition zone is the area where the lake breeze meets the system breeze. This convergence of wind directions often creates an area of little or no wind. This moves around during the day as the lake breeze builds and subsides. You often see a near shore transition zone in the late morning and early evening as the lake breeze forms or dies.		Watch for the Dreaded Transition Zone \\ A transition zone is the area where the lake breeze meets the system breeze. This convergence of wind directions often creates an area of little or no wind. This moves around during the day as the lake breeze builds and subsides. You often see a near shore transition zone in the late morning and early evening as the lake breeze forms or dies.

Eyes & Skin

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Mon, 17 Nov 2025 18:52:06 +0000

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-	If you are looking for advice on preventing or treating rubbing or chafing, look here: [[:back_side_butt_rub\|Rubbing and Chafing]]	+	If you are looking for advice on preventing or treating rubbing or chafing, look here: [[health:back_side_butt_rub\|Rubbing and Chafing]]

	* [[:lotions_potions_5_22_2020\|Lotions and Potions May 2020]]		* [[:lotions_potions_5_22_2020\|Lotions and Potions May 2020]]

Vega Flex Footplate Bolt Failure

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:56 +0000

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		+
		+	**Re: Failed Flex Footplate Bolt\\
		+	Matthew Arrott** \\
		+	Apr 22 #35480 \\
		+	Reivers- yes that is the bolt and anchor nut assembly that failed. The spot weld holding the assembly that broke. The bolt would not screw back into its anchor.\\
		+	Boat is in working order with JD's replacement. The bolt/anchor assembly is of higher quality.
		+
		+	@Dan - why did JD send us the replacement kits .. what did he know?\\
		+	Irrespective - greatly appreciate getting it and yes, I am fortunate it was calm. It was quite peaceful solving how to get home effectively on Chuckanut

Falkland Islands Surfski

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-	The Falklands are a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Overseas_Territories\|British overseas territory]], with internal governance but defence and foreign affairs provided by the UK.	+	The Falklands are a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Overseas_Territories\|British overseas territory]], with internal governance but defense and foreign affairs provided by the UK.

	===== Downwinds =====		===== Downwinds =====

False Creek results and recap.

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:57 +0000

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	+
	+	allipp@... \\
	+	03/02/19 #24414
	+
	+	It turned out to be a sunny and relatively warm day in Vancouver with only a slight breeze. I guess the cold air follows the Frazer River and then heads for Washington, because we got a light NNW wind up there!
	+
	+	As for the race they had the skis and OC2 canoes line up in front, and 100 meters back all the OC1s. I raced OC2 with Mike Lee and had to (repeatedly) remind him that I'd won this race with Eric Gerstl, Collin Smith, Beau Whitehead and Ashley James, and that we damn well better do so as well!
	+
	+	As we took off from the start we found ourselves amongst the skis and one other OC2 in the front pack. Notable names included Shane Martin, Ana Swetish, Chris Dobrovlny, Trista Bilmer and Brian Page on a double ski and Mike Brenneman and James Hill on the OC2. We were back middle of that pack as we rounded the first turn, but then decided to head up more to the front, and I told Ana, who was next to us but with a boat between, to get on our wake because we were gonna win the race!
	+
	+	Well, we made our way up to about 4th, then held it through the first lap. On the second lap we passed Shane and Brian/Trista and were about a boat length behind Mike and James. we stayed off to the side, not to avoid drafting, but because we seemed to actually run a bit better out in the cleaner water. After the last turn we had to make a minor turn around one buoy then head to the finish. We caught up in the last stretch and were neck and neck for the last few hundred meters with them nosing us out for a photo finish. Although I'd really like to give Mike some crap for not winning, I just can't! It was too close and too fun of a race to do so.
	+
	+	https://www.webscorer.com/racedetails?pid=1&raceid=171385&did=187406
	+
	+	Ashley Paul James \\
	+	03/02/19 #24415
	+
	+	Well done gents.\\
	+	It would have been a fun race to watch from the front pack.\\
	+	Ash.
	+
	+	Ashley Paul James
	+
	+	Michael Lee
	+
	+	03/02/19 #24416
	+
	+	Thanks Ash. Good to see all the usual suspects.
	+
	+	Don’t believe Alan. He held off on giving crap because I was his ride home.
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin
	+
	+	03/02/19 #24417
	+
	+	65 boats! Kinda bigger deal than I thought. Those turns can be tough, just ask Peter M.
	+
	+	allipp@... \\
	+	03/03/19 #24418
	+
	+	I think it's anchored sailboats that Peter has a problem with!
	+

Downwinding East of Sundale in the Gorge

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Freshwater Bay -> Port Angeles Run report

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:57 +0000

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-	07/27/18 #23545	+	07/27/18 #23545

	Just back from the Gorge, Mike Mauch and I scored a superb ocean conditions like run from Freshwater Bay to Port Angeles.\\		Just back from the Gorge, Mike Mauch and I scored a superb ocean conditions like run from Freshwater Bay to Port Angeles.\\
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-	07/27/18 #23546	+	07/27/18 #23546

-	I've only hit those big run swell once like that. It's different than gorge or really anything you'll see inside. You did a neat trick avoiding getting set into the hook. If that happens probably easier to just crash land through the surf line and carry boat across. Also, I've done that upwind inside the hook and amazing how hard and long that gets. Especially if you were ridin OC.	+	I've only hit those big run swell once like that. It's different than gorge or really anything you'll see inside. You did a neat trick avoiding getting set into the hook. If that happens probably easier to just crash land through the surf line and carry boat across. Also, I've done that upwind inside the hook and amazing how hard and long that gets. Especially if you were ridin OC.

	I bet that run made the coffee taste good after.		I bet that run made the coffee taste good after.
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	michaelwood \\		michaelwood \\
-	07/27/18 #23547	+	07/27/18 #23547

-	Yeah crash land is the right description! Three weeks ago we did the run and landed on the North side to avoid the bash upwind. Figured since mid tide might be some beach showing before getting thrown up against boulder jetty. Well the" beach" was softball sized smooth rocks. I hoped out,got rolled slipping on the stones and barely saved my boat. You need curbside valet service in any decent wind.	+	Yeah crash land is the right description! Three weeks ago we did the run and landed on the North side to avoid the bash upwind. Figured since mid tide might be some beach showing before getting thrown up against boulder jetty. Well the" beach" was softball sized smooth rocks. I hopped out, got rolled slipping on the stones and barely saved my boat. You need curbside valet service in any decent wind.

-	I was in my trusty Huki S1R on this last run. Mike in his S. I made a bad rudder selection .Thinking it wouldn't be so technical nor as much wind (forecast 15), I used 9" Huki weed rudder. My zigs and zags were pretty sloppy while Mike was shredding it rail to rail with his 9" Kiesling. I tried out my new 9.5" Kiesling surf rudder aka "The Beast" last Friday at the Gorge and boy o boy was it fun in swell city. Could turn any way I wanted and feel solid. Course you need mid 20's+ to get most benefit.	+	I was in my trusty Huki S1R on this last run. Mike in his S. I made a bad rudder selection .Thinking it wouldn't be so technical nor as much wind (forecast 15), I used 9" Huki weed rudder. My zigs and zags were pretty sloppy while Mike was shredding it rail to rail with his 9" Kiesling. I tried out my new 9.5" Kiesling surf rudder aka "The Beast" last Friday at the Gorge and boy o boy was it fun in swell city. Could turn any way I wanted and feel solid. Course you need mid 20's+ to get most benefit.

	Looks like you got S15-25 next Tuesday in Bham so I'm bringing Huki and Beast for a run.See you on the water.		Looks like you got S15-25 next Tuesday in Bham so I'm bringing Huki and Beast for a run.See you on the water.

-	allipp@...****	+	allipp@…

-	07/27/18 #23548	+	07/27/18 #23548

-	I sure wish they brought back that DeFuca Downwind race again! I think the first year we did it we had to finish inside the hook, but the next year we finished on the beach facing the Strait. There was a bit of a shorebreak but it wasn't too bad to negotiate.	+	I sure wish they brought back that DeFuca Downwind race again! I think the first year we did it we had to finish inside the hook, but the next year we finished on the beach facing the Strait. There was a bit of a shorebreak but it wasn't too bad to negotiate.

	Bill Walker, what do you say about resurrecting that race??		Bill Walker, what do you say about resurrecting that race??

Fenn West Coast Downwind 2018

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:57 +0000

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	+
	+	allipp@... \\
	+	11/17/18 #24022
	+
	+	It looks like the results are posted for what turned out to be more of an upwind sidewind slog according to Heather's Facebook post.
	+
	+	https://www.webscorer.com/race?raceid=161916
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	11/17/18 #24023
	+
	+	Reading some heartache stories in the results. Fastest paddler (Cory H.) in at 1:43. Austin was 5th at 1:47. Dean G. 10th at 1:51. Sean Rice 18th at 1:55. Ana 83rd and 5th woman. Heather 94th and 8th woman. Tom S. 100th finisher. 145 racers finished and 7 racers did not finish. Last racer across in just under three hours. I would not make the finish.
	+
	+	It's looks like a gut buster paddler.
	+
	+	rd
	+
	+	Paul Reavley \\
	+	11/17/18 #24026
	+
	+	RD,
	+
	+	Hmmm, the finish list shows "Shaun Rice" at 18th - 50+ Male. Maybe not "Sean Rice"? And maybe a good result for Shaun? Looks like there were a bunch of very fit 40+ and 50+ racers there.
	+
	+	I hope our folks from Bellingham get the kind of downwind race they would like next Saturday in the Doctor. $50,000 prize purse! and $10K each to 1st place male and female.
	+
	+	Tom Swetish \\
	+	11/17/18 #24027
	+
	+	Yep it was brutal. Wind and waves at your 10:00 for 24km. Heather pushed her V10 sport (black tip) as fast as it would go - it was the first time I’ve seen her not smiling after a race. So proud of Ana for hammering it out in conditions that did not suit her strengths. And for me, well, I’d just like to think I was saving myself for next week! Honestly it was way more fun than flatwater - so we’ll call it character building.
	+
	+	It’s quite the scene here. Great people, consistent winds (yesterday aside) and a huge paddling community. Imagine enough people and consistent enough wind that a business could exist running shuttles to wildcat every day!
	+
	+	Will post a link to Ana’s blog once she updates it today.
	+
	+	Thanks for thinking of us!
	+
	+	Tom
	+

Fenn West Coast Downwinder Race 2019

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:57 +0000

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	+
	+	**Congratulations\\
	+	Denise Weeks** \\
	+	11/17/19 #25665
	+
	+	Great work Austin and Ana!
	+
	+	http://bluechipresults.com.au/results.aspx?CId=11&RId=1311
	+
	+	Jeff Hegedus \\
	+	11/17/19 #25667
	+
	+	That's amazing, nice race Austin and Ana!!
	+
	+	Paul Reavley \\
	+	11/19/19 #25671
	+
	+	They did the Sunset Series race #1 on Tuesday (they're 14 hrs ahead of us). If you want to check for results going forward, look here:
	+
	+	http://bluechipresults.com.au/
	+
	+	Series race #1 - another good race for Ana and Greg B. (those 50+ yr. Aussies are strong!)
	+

Fiji Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sat, 21 Mar 2026 18:57:01 +0000

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	* …		* …
		+
		+	----
		+
		+	===== Videos =====
		+
		+	* [[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuykg4We5c_AvvRvxubIvp03f5Uj-SZcS\|Surfski TV Oceania Playlist]]
		+	* ...

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Finding Waves Anyway Possible

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Mon, 07 Jul 2025 17:54:03 +0000

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-	Surf Anywhere Documentary Trailer****	+	Surf Anywhere

-	{{vimeo>155414239?large}}	+	{{youtube>JB14aOp7WNY?large}}

	.		.

Finland Surfski

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-	* [[:decision_trees_wear\|Choosing What to Wear for Cold Water]] locals in Finland should be able to give good advice on water wear	+	* [[:decision_trees_wear\|Choosing What to Wear for Cold Water]] locals in Finland should also be able to give good advice on water wear
-	* ...	+	* …

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Lavacore, Fireskin? 11/30/2013

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:58 +0000

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	+
	+	**Colder Weather Paddling Gear\\
	+	tahalsted** \\
	+	11/30/13 #15182
	+
	+	So, Lavacore or Fireskin, or What?
	+
	+	Who's using something like the above whilst out in their skis now? I tried on a Lavacore T-shirt and it seemed mighty warm and kinda tight in the armpits (even tho it was an XL). Is Fireskin lighter? Is a vest a better option (due to the armpit factor)?
	+
	+	Do both stop or slow down the wind at all? Would you just wear that on top, or would you also wear a paddle jacket? [I know, I know - it depends]
	+
	+	I've been using a farmer john with a long sleeve NRS tech shirt and a paddle jacket. Sometimes that's too much; sometimes not enough.
	+
	+	Curious what other folks are doing.
	+
	+	And I need to get my order in to Santa, soon...
	+
	+	Thanks!
	+
	+	-Tom
	+
	+	ALAN CLARK \\
	+	11/30/13 #15183
	+
	+	I've used Fireskin for surf ski paddling and sailing. I've got a short-sleeve and a long-sleeve. Today sailing, I used the short-sleeve and was warm despite light showers from time to time. It is a lot less bulky than traditional foul weather gear. When I paddle, I've used the Lavacore long sleeve alone or with a Mocke windbreaker. The combination seems to be wind proof and warm. I've not used a paddling jacket unless there are waves. No "armpit factor" with either one
	+
	+	....
	+
	+	Alan
	+
	+	Steve Scoggins
	+
	+	11/30/13 #15185
	+
	+	Personal opinion here... They are the same thing. I have both and can tell no difference, as in they might be the exact same thing with a different logo. They reduce wind, and are great as a top over pants or farmer, shortsleeve suit, etc. I don't like swimming in them... Super cold this time of year, but if you re 95% sure you're not gonna take a dip, then they are pretty nice.
	+
	+	Steve
	+

Choosing Your First Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sat, 13 Sep 2025 12:59:03 +0000

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-	Being fast and stable on the flat does not necessarily mean that the boat will handle the surf well. Make sure you try your boat out surfing some kind of waves before you decide. A good ‘tell’ of how well a surfski is doing in the waves is the amount of fun you are having. If you are struggling to push over waves or nose diving constantly, you should look at trying out some other skis. (//Ed. Depending on your initial venues to paddle in, preferences, and comfort on the water, this may not be a critical consideration for beginners, but will usually become important as you progress and are looking to upgrade your surfski//)	+	Being fast and stable on the flat does not necessarily mean that the boat will handle the surf well. Make sure you try your boat out surfing some kind of waves before you decide. A good ‘tell’ of how well a surfski is doing in the waves is the amount of fun you are having. If you are struggling to push over waves or nose diving constantly, you should look at trying out some other skis. (//Ed. Depending on your initial venues to paddle in, preferences, and comfort on the water, this may not be a critical consideration for beginners, but will often become more important as you progress and are looking to upgrade your surfski//)

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Dryland Fitness

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:59 +0000

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	* [[https://youtu.be/JqzjP73EUh8\|Shoulders]]		* [[https://youtu.be/JqzjP73EUh8\|Shoulders]]
		+	* [[https://www.youtube.com/c/paddlesynergy\|Paddle Synergy ]] youtube channel focusing on mixing onland training with paddling (particularly for single blade paddlers)
	* Erg		* Erg
	* [[:races:erg_racing\|Training & Racing]]		* [[:races:erg_racing\|Training & Racing]]

5 Bridges Race Report

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:59 +0000

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	Results:\\		Results:\\
-	[[https://www.webscorer.com/racedetails?raceid=231338&fbclid=IwAR3K33iuIufqRz5tkSnSYEq_Aful8UC97SAKUPzTrrczGrcKIVbBxCeJji4\|https://www.webscorer.com/racedetails?raceid=231338&fbclid=IwAR3K33iuIufqRz5tkSnSYEq_Aful8UC97SAKUPzTrrczGrcKIVbBxCeJji4]]	+	[[https://www.webscorer.com/racedetails?raceid=231338\|https://www.webscorer.com/racedetails?raceid=231338]]

-	\\
	Michael Lee \\		Michael Lee \\
	Jan 17 #28433		Jan 17 #28433

Leaky boat repair......

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:59 +0000

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-	Ever since my S1-X was blown off the top of my truck and had to be repaired by Sterling, it has leaked an excessive amount. I would paddle on a calm day and gain about 2 cups of water and then paddle on a choppy day and pick up about a quart. I naturally assumed that my scuppers (vents that drain the footwells) were at fault since they were the only passage through the boat interior other than the rudder. I came up with a plan to find plastic or vinyl tubing that\\	+	Ever since my S1-X was blown off the top of my truck and had to be repaired by Sterling, it has leaked an excessive amount. I would paddle on a calm day and gain about 2 cups of water and then paddle on a choppy day and pick up about a quart. I naturally assumed that my scuppers (vents that drain the footwells) were at fault since they were the only passage through the boat interior other than the rudder. I came up with a plan to find plastic or vinyl tubing that was the exact diameter of my drain holes and line the holes by gluing a tube into each hole. This proved to be an easy task since Jude used a 3/8" drill bit to create these holes. The glue I used was recommended by Sterling and is known as "plastic cement" and is a two-part epoxy.
-	was the exact diameter of my drain holes and line the holes by gluing a tube into each hole. This proved to be an easy task since Jude used a 3/8" drill bit to create these holes. The glue I used was recommended by Sterling and is known as "plastic cement" and is a two-part epoxy.	+

	I tested my my creation last Saturday in the chop as we paddled towards Whiskey rock and came up with just as much or more water as I had ever had. So it wasn't my scuppers that were leaking. My thoughts then turned towards my rudder shaft which can be a problem if the rudder gets hit hard enough to crack the tube that connects the bottom of the boat with the top. the only way to test it's integrity was to create air pressure within the hull and see if there was leakage by coating the rudder canal with dish soap (Peter taught me this trick). In order to create the air pressure, I used my wife's garden sprayer. I simply removed the wand that extends from the spraying handle and inserted the outlet of the spraying handle into the drain hole on my Huki. I then taped a seal around this junction and pumped up the sprayer to a rather high volume of air. I was then able to squeeze the release handle on the sprayer and send all the compressed air into my hull. Lucky for me that there was a leak, otherwise I would have probably blown the deck off of my hull.		I tested my my creation last Saturday in the chop as we paddled towards Whiskey rock and came up with just as much or more water as I had ever had. So it wasn't my scuppers that were leaking. My thoughts then turned towards my rudder shaft which can be a problem if the rudder gets hit hard enough to crack the tube that connects the bottom of the boat with the top. the only way to test it's integrity was to create air pressure within the hull and see if there was leakage by coating the rudder canal with dish soap (Peter taught me this trick). In order to create the air pressure, I used my wife's garden sprayer. I simply removed the wand that extends from the spraying handle and inserted the outlet of the spraying handle into the drain hole on my Huki. I then taped a seal around this junction and pumped up the sprayer to a rather high volume of air. I was then able to squeeze the release handle on the sprayer and send all the compressed air into my hull. Lucky for me that there was a leak, otherwise I would have probably blown the deck off of my hull.

Flat Water Speed & Rudders

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-	[[:rudders\|Main Rudder Page]]	+	See also [[:rudders\|Main Rudder Page]]

	Dan Mayhew \\		Dan Mayhew \\

Flexibility - Dryland

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-	Dumbbell drills for your non-domiant side can help you catch up and achieve whole body balance ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTAJB6Rhnow\|Hayley Nixon Find and Correct Imbalances]]).	+	Dumbbell drills for your non-dominant side can help you catch up and achieve whole body balance ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTAJB6Rhnow\|Hayley Nixon Find and Correct Imbalances]]).

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Flexibility on the Water

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-	Activate your back: jefferson curl 10 x

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big ebb goin on

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:48:59 +0000

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	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	07/03/19 #25131
	+
	+	Anyone notice if these big ebb tides have any effect on wave conditions? (I haven't been on the water for a week or so).
	+
	+	John Rybczyk \\
	+	07/03/19 #25132
	+
	+	"Anyone notice if these big ebb tides have any effect on wave conditions? (I haven't been on the water for a week or so)."
	+
	+	Well, one would hope, unfortunately, we haven't had any great S winds on the ebb this cycle. The ebb has been in the morning and the stronger, surf-generating winds have come\\
	+	in the afternoon on the flood. Incidentally, today and tomorrow are the lowest daylight tides of the year, -2.9 ft below MLLW. Low tides is at 12:56 pm and\\
	+	maybe we will have some wind on the morning ebb.
	+
	+	I have been out on the flood though, this tide cycle, with some half-way decent wind. It's a bugger going upwind and up-current though. My working theory right now is that a strong\\
	+	flood and a strong S wind leads to fun but sloppy conditions, like this afternoon for example. Fat boat city.
	+
	+	See you on the water,
	+
	+	johnr
	+
	+	PS. For those of you who don't know, some of us are of the general opinion that the best surf in Bellingham Bay comes when the tide is ebbing and the winds are from the south. \\
	+	That sets up a situation where the current is opposite the direction of the wind waves, which leads to big, fun, easy to catch waves. This set of circumstances is not uncommon and is\\
	+	probably one of the reasons why the Bay is such a popular place to surf paddle. An added bonus is that your upwind paddle is with the\\
	+	current. Rouge river eddies and periodic appearances from the Kraken can complicate matters.
	+
	+	Dan Mayhew \\
	+	07/04/19 #25134
	+
	+	Hey John,
	+
	+	These are some great observations on surfing conditions. This is the type of info I have been hungry for. Do you mind if I put them up on surfski.wiki? I don't want to be accused of plagiarism, but I would cut and paste your PS into a section on B'ham conditions. Of course, you are welcome to post it yourself, but I am happy to do it if you're not interested.
	+
	+	Dan Mayhew
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	07/04/19 #25135
	+
	+	I spy a kiteboard guy. On the bay. On an approaching big ebb. Might be a valuable data point to get out there in it.
	+
	+	Dennis Mowry \\
	+	07/04/19 #25136
	+
	+	Forecast today 15-20 maybe that means 10-15? Ebb still going on at 10:00.\\
	+	Marc and I are going, hopefully epic conditions like Tues?\\
	+	:D'
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	07/04/19 #25138
	+
	+	it was fun this morning, but not the magic carpet rides that happen once in a while. So, giant ebb with moderate southerly is not it.
	+
	+	What are the ingredients? Some who were on the Tuesday express said there was a tide change (which way?) and a little more southerly wind. C'mon guys, rub those brain cells together and get a spark. I'm tired of being so wrong about when the conditions are good. Our buddies up North have dialed in Ambleside. Hope we don't have to call in outside consultants on this.
	+
	+	John Rybczyk \\
	+	07/04/19 #25139
	+
	+	We could have used about 10 more mphs of wind this morning.
	+
	+	Duncan Howat \\
	+	07/04/19 #25140
	+
	+	Fri afternoon 3:00 at this point. Yesterday at 3 was very good. Weed Rudder required on the flood as those weeds that went south on the ebb , as Arnold said I’ll be back and to frustrate anybody with the Surfrudder , they will be back. Sides that the sun could be out. D\\
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	+	Bob Putnam \\
	+	07/04/19 #25141
	+
	+	Today was 5.29 knot ebb at Ambleside. If there had been NW winds it would have been rocking, but we are getting SE variable. The current will be waining over the next few days. We'll have the current at our backs for the Canadian Champs, with a super low tide around the start time. .5 feet. Drop your crab traps prior to the race!!
	+
	+	Jeff Hegedus \\
	+	07/05/19 #25146
	+
	+	The fast flood pouring in after the big ebb, on a WSW or SW blow off Clark's Wall, is a technical luscious and fun alternative to the search for surf.
	+

Florida Surfski

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	==== Flatwater ====		==== Flatwater ====

-	* [[https://www.paddleflorida.net/\|Paddle Florida Paddling Routes]]	+	* Overall****
-	* [[https://www.floridarambler.com/kayaking-in-florida/imperial-river-kayak-trail-bonita-springs/\|Imperial River]]	+	* [[https://www.paddleflorida.net/\|Paddle Florida Paddling Routes]]
-	* Miami Canals [[https://youtu.be/wTp8MBWl2cY\|video]]	+	* [[https://paddlingmag.com/trips/destinations/best-places-to-kayak-with-manatees/\|Places to See Manatees]]
-	* [[https://www.paddleflorida.net/rainbow-river-paddle.htm\|Rainbow River]] spring fed	+	* Specific Places****
-	* [[https://weekiwachee.com/\|Weeki Wachee River]] spring fed	+	* [[https://www.floridarambler.com/kayaking-in-florida/imperial-river-kayak-trail-bonita-springs/\|Imperial River]]
		+	* Miami Canals [[https://youtu.be/wTp8MBWl2cY\|video]]
		+	* [[https://www.paddleflorida.net/rainbow-river-paddle.htm\|Rainbow River]] spring fed
		+	* [[https://weekiwachee.com/\|Weeki Wachee River]] spring fed

	</WRAP>		</WRAP>

Foil for surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:00 +0000

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		+	[[:surfski_foils\|Main Surfski Foil Page]]

	allipp01 \\		allipp01 \\

Foils on Surfskis?

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:00 +0000

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		+
		+	[[:surfski_foils\|Main Surfski Foil Page]]

	(and flatwater boredom) [[https://www.facebook.com/groups/395803743862021/permalink/5961160853992921/\|facebook link to this thread]]		(and flatwater boredom) [[https://www.facebook.com/groups/395803743862021/permalink/5961160853992921/\|facebook link to this thread]]

Footplate non slip pad

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:00 +0000

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	+
	+	paul clement \\
	+	07/24/19 #25243
	+
	+	Hello all-\\
	+	Does anyone have surplus footplate non slip foam around. I would like to do two footplates. I thought I would check before I pull the trigger locally or online.\\
	+	Thanks!\\
	+	Paul
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin
	+
	+	07/24/19 #25246
	+
	+	I use the adhesive non-slip tread from Hardware Sales. It's thin so if you're looking to adjust leg-length in a tad, won't work. Also it's somewhat permanent. But cheap and feels ok on bare feet.
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger \\
	+	07/25/19 #25247
	+
	+	I cut up an old synthetic “welcome” mat and glued it on. Still have some if you want it. It works well for finger grips on side if boat too.
	+
	+	Jonas Ecker \\
	+	07/25/19 #25248
	+
	+	I know OPS sells some padding that is cut and shaped for ski footplates. I don’t use them personally but they might be what you are interested in.
	+
	+	https://www.oceanpaddlesports.com/store/Non-skid-foot-pads-p64522660
	+

Footplate Rubbing Surfski (not unusual with some Fenn skis)

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:00 +0000

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	My solution came from Austin K. by way of Ana. It’s to use shower curtain holders and a rod to brace the footplate so it can’t move. Photo attached. These shower curtain holders are on the big side but my hope was to distribute the pressure so as not to bust a hole into the boat. Seems to be working. Squeak is reduced but not absent, esp. when I am really going for it with leg drive, as in a race, when I guess I don’t mind annoying my competition. I will never be stealthy like Thom P.		My solution came from Austin K. by way of Ana. It’s to use shower curtain holders and a rod to brace the footplate so it can’t move. Photo attached. These shower curtain holders are on the big side but my hope was to distribute the pressure so as not to bust a hole into the boat. Seems to be working. Squeak is reduced but not absent, esp. when I am really going for it with leg drive, as in a race, when I guess I don’t mind annoying my competition. I will never be stealthy like Thom P.

-	{{:equipment:feet_pedalsupport.jpg?direct&300x400}}	+	{{:equipment:feet_pedalsupport.jpg?direct&300x400\|feet_pedalsupport.jpg}}

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	Interesting solution Denise.		Interesting solution Denise.

-	Have the same issue in a Swordfish S. The footrest was wearing through the gelcoat so I took the footrest out and added an approx 1/8 inch thick 'pad' of additional gelcoat there to keep the footrest from wearing a hole in the boat. (I have a sinking boat phobia. 🙂) This reduced the creaking and although the creaking still persists, I may now be less likely to go down with the sinking ship...	+	Have the same issue in a Swordfish S. The footrest was wearing through the gelcoat so I took the footrest out and added an approx 1/8 inch thick 'pad' of additional gelcoat there to keep the footrest from wearing a hole in the boat. (I have a sinking boat phobia. 🙂) This reduced the creaking and although the creaking still persists, I may now be less likely to go down with the sinking ship…

	gsouthstone Apr 30 #31515		gsouthstone Apr 30 #31515
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		+
		+	paul clement Apr 30 #31521
		+
		+	My Flex squeaks too… just like my Fenn.
		+
		+	Sad.
		+
		+	Jon Denham Apr 30 #31522
		+
		+	Me too. I have wondered what would happen if I did cut off enough of the bottom of the footrest such that it wouldn’t touch the boat, but it seems like FENN may have designed the footrest to be supported by the bottom of the footwell such that it couldn’t take the stress of pushing hard without that support. IDK. But I hesitate to permanently change something where that may be the case.
		+
		+	And, pushing with the heels…I’d like as much footrest contact on my heel as possible near the bottom of the footrest so trimming some off there may not be good for that either. That’s why the Ana/Denise solution seems interesting.
		+
		+	I also wonder if a hard foam block could be carved to snugly take up that whole area where the ‘shower curtain rod’ is and provide the support such that the footrest doesn’t squeak. Glue it in? It’d be lightweight. That would also take up volume in the footwell…less water to slosh about and the footwell should drain faster. 🤷🏽‍♂️
		+
		+	Larry Bussinger May 1 #31523
		+
		+	Use Sugru. It’s a moldable glue. Look it up on google, it has a thousand uses. Just fold up a wad of it and put under the bottom edge. I have it on all my boats, and its hasn’t worn a bit. I put a wad of it on my coffee cup to rest my finger on. Its been through the washer everyday for the last 4-5 years and has shown no wear.
		+
		+	Larry Bussinger
		+
		+	Larry Bussinger May 1 #31524
		+
		+	As an after thought, put it on the footbrace and let it dry before you let it touch the boat. It’ll not attach to the boat then.
		+
		+	Larry Bussinger
		+
		+	gsouthstone May 1 #31529
		+
		+	Sugru is easy to DIY;
		+
		+	{{:diy_sugru.jpg?nolink&160x160}}
		+
		+	A mix of 1 corn starch to 1 silicone caulk will be like a putty in 1 to 2 minutes and can then be hand smoothed. In 3 or 4 minutes it will be like clay and can still be molded but is hard to smooth.
		+
		+	G

Footstraps Again

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:00 +0000

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	I make them for all my skis. 10 minutes and $3 worth of material. 5 mil Neoprene and 2" velcro. Here is a post I did a while ago for one of my custom touring ski's with a picture of the strap. I like a little thicker than obvious neoprene because it forces the strap to stay up (no tugging or fishing needed).		I make them for all my skis. 10 minutes and $3 worth of material. 5 mil Neoprene and 2" velcro. Here is a post I did a while ago for one of my custom touring ski's with a picture of the strap. I like a little thicker than obvious neoprene because it forces the strap to stay up (no tugging or fishing needed).

-	<del>[[https://news.fasterfarther.com/training/2015/4/2/bailer-upgrade-mod\|Simple Upgrades & Modifications]]</del>(fasterfarther website is no more)	+	<del>Simple Upgrades & Modifications</del> (fasterfarther website is no more)

	Decided to upgrade the bailer on the Ego Smuggler to the new style Epic bailer. It's not cheap at $70, but it's usability is dramatically better and unlike …\\		Decided to upgrade the bailer on the Ego Smuggler to the new style Epic bailer. It's not cheap at $70, but it's usability is dramatically better and unlike …\\

France Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Thu, 18 Sep 2025 14:30:48 +0000

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-	* [[:wild_life#france\|French Sea Creatures]]	+	* [[:wild_life#france\|Sea Creatures near France]]
	* …		* …

Fresh Water Paddling In France

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Mon, 08 Sep 2025 15:01:38 +0000

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	* [[https://youtu.be/WS6p1ZMHeJ0\|2023 GlaGla Video]]		* [[https://youtu.be/WS6p1ZMHeJ0\|2023 GlaGla Video]]
	* Resources		* Resources
-	* [[https://www.kayak-sevrier.com/page/211873-accueil\|Canoë-Kayak Club Sevrier]]	+	* [[https://www.kayak-sevrier.com/page/211873-accueil\|Canoë-Kayak Club Sevrier]] (active surfskiers here)
	* [[https://www.talloires-lac-annecy.com/en/move/water-sports/sailing-boat/120-nautical-center-of-talloires\|Nautical Center Talloires]]		* [[https://www.talloires-lac-annecy.com/en/move/water-sports/sailing-boat/120-nautical-center-of-talloires\|Nautical Center Talloires]]
	* [[https://internautique.org/\|Internautique Saint Jorioz]]		* [[https://internautique.org/\|Internautique Saint Jorioz]]

North and Northwest Shorelines (France)

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sat, 13 Dec 2025 18:08:02 +0000

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	* [[https://brestbretagnenautisme.fr/\|Brest Bretagne Nautisme]]		* [[https://brestbretagnenautisme.fr/\|Brest Bretagne Nautisme]]
	* [[https://canoekayakclubbrestois.fr/\|Canoe Kayak Club Brestois]]		* [[https://canoekayakclubbrestois.fr/\|Canoe Kayak Club Brestois]]
		+	* [[https://www.facebook.com/p/Crozon-Waterman-Club-61577136154863/\|Crozon Waterman Club]] (facebook)
	* [[https://estranploudal.wixsite.com/l-estran-ploudal\|L'Estran Ploudalmézeau]]		* [[https://estranploudal.wixsite.com/l-estran-ploudal\|L'Estran Ploudalmézeau]]
	* [[https://barrachousup.com/finistere-surfski-festival-2024-fr/\|Finistere Surfski Festival]] for beginners to intermediate (check [[http://barrachousup.com/\|barrachou paddle]] website because link will may change from year to year)		* [[https://barrachousup.com/finistere-surfski-festival-2024-fr/\|Finistere Surfski Festival]] for beginners to intermediate (check [[http://barrachousup.com/\|barrachou paddle]] website because link will may change from year to year)

South Shores (France)

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Fri, 12 Dec 2025 01:11:11 +0000

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	* La Côte Radieuse - Le Cap Béar 14 km [[https://youtu.be/iN82RnKVQok\|SUP video]]		* La Côte Radieuse - Le Cap Béar 14 km [[https://youtu.be/iN82RnKVQok\|SUP video]]
	* Collioure		* Collioure
		+	* Mar D'Amunt (France/Spain)
		+	* Banyuls Sur Mer (France) – Llançà (Spain) – 19 km
		+	* Cerbere (France) – Portbou (Spain) – 6 km
		+	* Cerbere (France) – Llançà (Spain) – 11 km
		+	* Plage de Peyrefite (France) - Llançà (Spain) –15 km
	* Montpellier		* Montpellier
	* Palavas-les-Flots		* Palavas-les-Flots

France Downwind/Paddle Videos

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Fri, 10 Oct 2025 11:19:12 +0000

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-	[[https://surfskischool.co.za/\|Reims Canoe Club Paddling Cape of Good Hope with Mocke Surfski School]]	+	Reims Canoe Club Paddling Cape of Good Hope with [[http://surfskischool.co.za/\|Mocke Surfski School]]

	{{youtube>UK0lBShKqX8?large}}		{{youtube>UK0lBShKqX8?large}}

Frozen Roof V Racks

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:01 +0000

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-	{{:equipment:car_racks:rackstrap.jpg?direct&640x480}}	+	{{equipment:carracks:rackstrap.jpg?direct&640x480}}

	Jason Tedrow 12/04/22 #32789		Jason Tedrow 12/04/22 #32789

Frozen (ice) Rudder Lines

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:01 +0000

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-	John Rybczyk \\	+	* [[:repair#rudders\|Repair Page - Rudder Related Fixes]]
-	12/07/13 #15212	+
		+	John Rybczyk \\ 12/07/13 #15212

	Bring your surf ski into the house right now. Crank up the heat.		Bring your surf ski into the house right now. Crank up the heat.

-	bill \\	+	bill \\ 12/07/13 #15213
-	12/07/13 #15213	+

-	Cant do it.. House not long enough (seriously) and then what happens on the drive up and over night?	+	Cant do it.. House not long enough (seriously) and then what happens on the drive up and over night?

	thanks though.		thanks though.
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-	Tom Swetish \\	+	Tom Swetish \\ 12/07/13 #15215
-	12/07/13 #15215	+

-	maybe try warming up some windshield wiper fluid on the stove - then lift the stern up a bit and try to get the fluid to flow into the tube. I would think it would kind of displace the water and not re-freeze.	+	maybe try warming up some windshield wiper fluid on the stove - then lift the stern up a bit and try to get the fluid to flow into the tube. I would think it would kind of displace the water and not re-freeze.

	note that I've never tried this so no promises.		note that I've never tried this so no promises.
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-	bill \\	+	bill \\ 12/07/13 #15216
-	12/07/13 #15216	+

-	That might work. Im not sure if it could get the fluid to defrost 10 feet of tube from one end though. I was thinking if i could get it defrosted i could pour really salty water ( or wiper fluid) down the tubes. Then they wouldn’t freeze up over night. Just that defrosting part.	+	That might work. Im not sure if it could get the fluid to defrost 10 feet of tube from one end though. I was thinking if i could get it defrosted i could pour really salty water ( or wiper fluid) down the tubes. Then they wouldn’t freeze up over night. Just that defrosting part.

	Bill		Bill

-	Reivers Dustin \\	+	Reivers Dustin \\ 12/07/13 #15217
-	12/07/13 #15217	+

-	Eyebrow liner. Definately. Apply to your face so that no one recognizes the guy who couldn't steer his boat. But seriously, go easy on the rudder peddals in this case because applied force will tend to push the rudder cable sleeves around with good chance of movement where a leak point is created.	+	Eyebrow liner. Definately. Apply to your face so that no one recognizes the guy who couldn't steer his boat. But seriously, go easy on the rudder peddals in this case because applied force will tend to push the rudder cable sleeves around with good chance of movement where a leak point is created.

-	If you have any hatches, you could use hair dryer to warm the inside of the hull. Back in the day our wives would find their hair dryers being used to dry out boots and boats. A caution here is to make sure not to pressurize the hull by not giving good exhaust port. (Blows the seams). Same deal with putting water in the boat in order to look for leaks or maybe just to rinse out the inside. Be very cautious on that.	+	If you have any hatches, you could use hair dryer to warm the inside of the hull. Back in the day our wives would find their hair dryers being used to dry out boots and boats. A caution here is to make sure not to pressurize the hull by not giving good exhaust port. (Blows the seams). Same deal with putting water in the boat in order to look for leaks or maybe just to rinse out the inside. Be very cautious on that.

-	Maybe you don't need the eyebrow liner if you have enough Laphroag. Or Bulleit - which is cheaper and will clinically remove all sense of judgement more quickly.	+	Maybe you don't need the eyebrow liner if you have enough Laphroag. Or Bulleit - which is cheaper and will clinically remove all sense of judgement more quickly.

	rd		rd

-	bill \\	+	bill \\ 12/07/13 #15218
-	12/07/13 #15218	+

-	I have the boat at my girlfriends house now.. My cunning plan is to warm it up with a hair dryer and when it thaws tilt the boat and poor some windshield wiper fluid down the tubes (thanks Tom). This should keep it from freezing over night... Maybe.	+	I have the boat at my girlfriends house now.. My cunning plan is to warm it up with a hair dryer and when it thaws tilt the boat and poor some windshield wiper fluid down the tubes (thanks Tom). This should keep it from freezing over night… Maybe.

	I'm taking my mariner express just in case. :-(		I'm taking my mariner express just in case. :-(

Garmin Again

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:01 +0000

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	+
	+	tahalsted \\
	+	11/14/20 #28055
	+
	+	I'm reopening old topics (and possibly old wounds) -
	+
	+	I killed my beloved Garmin Vivoactive HR GPS watch today. I left it on the roof of the car at Marine Park and drove off. Sadly, it didn't survive the next car on Harris Ave and was squashed like a squirrel.
	+
	+	So what would the paddling intelligencia recommend?
	+
	+	I've looked at the Garmin Instinct Solar, and VivoActive 3 watches. I've also looked at some Samsung Galaxy ones.
	+
	+	So far, everything is more expensive than I expected, and either has way more or way less features than my old Vivoactive HR (which was discontinued).
	+
	+	Suggestions?.
	+
	+	And no, Reivers, I'm not interesting in dragging a lead line behind the 'ski...
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	11/14/20 #28057
	+
	+	avast! cause then you would need a little person in back calling out the knots.
	+
	+	Dennis Mowry \\
	+	11/14/20 #28058
	+
	+	20% off at REI right now.\\
	+	I saw this ad on you tube. Its a programable watch, you load it with anything you want, same as Google or Garmin. Check it out and let me know if it's worth getting. $48.\\
	+	:D'
	+
	+	https://cardieo.com/product/cardieo-smart-watch-3v?gclid=Cj0KCQiAnb79BRDgARIsAOVbhRpVEAzpgv3-V6wiBGxTl4O7eizCSgiIA5kCul3mPJVO7jRyj7jG4ZQaAvsCEALw_wcB
	+
	+	Paul Reavley
	+
	+	11/15/20 #28059
	+
	+	`Dennis,
	+
	+	My 2 cents - stay away from cardieo.com. There are other websites that cast doubt on the legitimacy of the site and value of the product.
	+
	+	But I would not mess with any website that shows you a phony roulette wheel (always gets the same result - 70% off, really?) before you see anything else on the site. Some things are too cheap.
	+
	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	11/15/20 #28060
	+
	+	Tom,\\
	+	I’ve been using a Garmin Forerunner 35 for a couple years. It’s pretty basic but does the important stuff (speed, distance, time) and its durable and has decent battery life. The only real limitation for me is the lack of an external heart rate monitor. It has a sensor that takes your pulse on your wrist but A) you have to be wearing it on your wrist and B) it doesn’t seem that accurate anyway. If HR is important to you spend a few bucks more but otherwise it’s a great value at around $100.
	+
	+	KO
	+
	+	tahalsted
	+
	+	11/15/20 #28062
	+
	+	I had a similar reaction to the cardieo site. It kinda screamed go phish...
	+
	+	tahalsted \\
	+	11/15/20 #28063
	+
	+	I took a chance and chatted with Garmin support. After asking if they offered a "stupidity" discount, they said they'd take my squashed one as an exchange, and send me a replacement for $60. Even though listed as "Discontinued", they still had some in stock.
	+
	+	So I am getting back what I had and liked. Not a bad deal.
	+
	+	Thanks for the suggestions, everyone!
	+

Garmin

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:01 +0000

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	+
	+	Kimberly Reeves \\
	+	11/15/19 #25647
	+
	+	I’m shopping around for a new Garmin... which styles seem to be best for paddling with heart rate monitor capacities?\\
	+	Kim R
	+
	+	Arnie Liati \\
	+	11/15/19 #25648
	+
	+	Kim,
	+
	+	Garmin Forerunner 935
	+
	+	Arnie
	+
	+	Jonas Ecker \\
	+	11/15/19 #25649
	+
	+	Ana and I both use the Garmin Vívoactive 3 with a chest strap heart-rate monitor. It’s the cheapest multi sport device I can find on the Garmin website and you can get it even cheaper refurbished (which after loosing my first off my mount) I’ve used for almost a year without issue.
	+
	+	There are definitely better options but this has worked well for both of us, garmin has a great warranty program and the few issues we’ve experienced have easily been resolved.
	+
	+	On key thing to remember is that if using for athletics the onboard heart monitor is not extremely accurate (I would recommend the HRM-Dual). Also, for an overall activity the watch on your wrist is fine, but if going for specific boat data such as max speed it is more accurate when mounted on the boat itself.
	+
	+	Hope this helps,
	+
	+	Jonas Ecker
	+
	+	Peter Prinos \\
	+	11/15/19 #25650
	+
	+	An external heart rate monitor is key if you want to put your watch on your footstrap or elsewhere. Scosche's Rhythm24 has been good for this - it can be worn on your arm rather than chest which to me seems more convenient and functions well with my Fenix5. Also, if you want a comprehensive summary of all the Garmin devices and their capabilities you might want to check the DC Rainmaker site. He goes into excruciating detail on every watch on the market and has a summary comparison chart where you can see the differences between each model along with current pricing.
	+
	+	-peter
	+
	+	paul clement
	+
	+	11/15/19 #25651
	+
	+	Garmin 520 + chest strap. Has a safety strap, easy to read, simple mount, also good for cycling, not so good for running (but neither am I...)\\
	+	pc
	+
	+	Tyler Irwin
	+
	+	11/15/19 #25652
	+
	+	I just got a Vivoactive 4 and have been pretty happy with it for the two non-paddling workouts I’ve done. They also make a 4S with a slightly smaller face for those that want a lower profile watch face. Pretty cool!
	+
	+	Kimberly Reeves
	+
	+	11/15/19 #25653
	+
	+	Thx Jonas...was wondering which one y’all used
	+
	+	Kimberly Reeves \\
	+	11/15/19 #25655
	+
	+	Tyler... curious... why the 4 instead of the 3?
	+
	+	Jonas Ecker \\
	+	11/15/19 #25657
	+
	+	When was the release for the 4?\\
	+	I might have to put it on the list to upgrade too?
	+
	+	Jonas Ecker
	+
	+	lori & beau whitehead \\
	+	11/15/19 #25658
	+
	+	I've been using the 735XT for 2 years now with the external chest strap. Super easy to use. Automatically uploads to Strava and Garmin apps as soon as I get back in my car. But you gotta use the chest strap if you want anything reliable for HR. The wrist sensor is a joke..
	+
	+	allipp@... \\
	+	11/15/19 #25660
	+
	+	Beau, do you mean I didn't average 116 beats per minute when I did the 6.77 mile flatwater paddle in one hour the other day on my OC1? Strava said "this was easier than your usual effort". LOL, yep, I'm pretty sure the wrist monitor was off by at least a couple beats!
	+
	+	Tyler Irwin \\
	+	11/15/19 #25661
	+
	+	They have the 4 available at REI now. Megan has the 3 and really likes it as well. Can’t go wrong either way really.
	+
	+	Kimberly Reeves
	+
	+	11/16/19 #25662
	+
	+	I’m so new to the heart rate monitor straps... are you buying the Garmin watches and then buying a separate heart rate monitor? If so, who’s and the Garmin pairs to it?
	+
	+	Arnie Liati \\
	+	11/16/19 #25663
	+
	+	Yes. Get the Polar H10 heart rate chest strap. The best.
	+
	+	Arnie
	+
	+	David Scherrer
	+
	+	11/16/19 #25664
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	+	I lost my old forerunner 201 and have just ordered the Garmen Edge 130. Will display heart rate monitor and is rechargeable, easy to read display. Fairly affordable, on sale at REI.\\
	+	David S
	+

Gel Coat Dings

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:01 +0000

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-	Repairing gel coat dings**\\	+	* [[:repair#surface_damage\|Repair: Surface Damage]]
-	D. Thompson **08/08/22 #32164 \\	+
-	Hi,\\	+	----
-	I'd like some recommendations for repairing gel coat dings that have exposed the fiberglass. I could also use your advice with products, tips, repair videos that are easy to follow for repairing small punctures in the hull of OC/Epic surf ski.	+
		+	Repairing Gel Coat Dings \\ D. Thompson 08/08/22 #32164 \\ Hi, \\ I'd like some recommendations for repairing gel coat dings that have exposed the fiberglass. I could also use your advice with products, tips, repair videos that are easy to follow for repairing small punctures in the hull of OC/Epic surf ski.

	So I've found generic two part epoxy and Marine Rx Epoxy Repair from West Marine as options. Thoughts?		So I've found generic two part epoxy and Marine Rx Epoxy Repair from West Marine as options. Thoughts?

-	Thanks,\\	+	Thanks, \\ Denise T
-	Denise T	+

-	Waterman Larry 08/08/22 #32166	+	Waterman Larry 08/08/22 #32166

	Hi Denise,		Hi Denise,

-	A couple of brief points on epoxy/carbon repairs and gel coat repairs.\\	+	A couple of brief points on epoxy/carbon repairs and gel coat repairs. \\ Structural repair of the hull is much easier than cosmetic repair as there are many less steps. I use West System epoxy and fillers for all repairs as I have over 35 years of practice using the resin and all of the hardeners. Choose an epoxy and then stick with it so you memorize the curing, flow and other characteristics. \\ Gel coat (polyester resin) requires these steps: \\ Fare repair area smooth. \\ Apply gel coat to repair area and let cure. \\ Sand with the following sand paper grits: 220, 320, 400, 620, 800, 1000, 1500, 2000, rubbing compound, polishing compound and then wax. \\ I use youtube videos for car repairs but don't have any video recommendations as I don't need any more education on most surfski repairs. I do use youtube when building molds as that is a process where I have little experience.
-	Structural repair of the hull is much easier than cosmetic repair as there are many less steps. I use West System epoxy and fillers for all repairs as I have over 35 years of practice using the resin and all of the hardeners. Choose an epoxy and then stick with it so you memorize the curing, flow and other characteristics.\\	+
-	Gel coat (polyester resin) requires these steps:\\	+
-	Fare repair area smooth.\\	+
-	Apply gel coat to repair area and let cure.\\	+
-	Sand with the following sand paper grits: 220, 320, 400, 620, 800, 1000, 1500, 2000, rubbing compound, polishing compound and then wax. \\	+
-	I use youtube videos for car repairs but don't have any video recommendations as I don't need any more education on most surfski repairs. I do use youtube when building molds as that is a process where I have little experience.	+

	Anyone getting deep into repair and having problems are free to call me at 360-Nine03-3524.		Anyone getting deep into repair and having problems are free to call me at 360-Nine03-3524.
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-	norcrossnuu@... 08/09/22 #32168	+	norcrossnuu@…08/09/22 #32168

-	Hey Denise,\\	+	Hey Denise, \\ OZone has some repair info with diagrams on the FAQ page of their website - however it may be specific to their construction layup so I’m not sure if it will help you or not? \\ [[https://outriggerzone.com/support/faq/\|https://outriggerzone.com/support/faq/]] \\
-	OZone has some repair info with diagrams on the FAQ page of their website - however it may be specific to their construction layup so I’m not sure if it will help you or not?\\	+	(Note that OZone uses paint, not gel coat, which may also be different than other manufacturers.) \\
-	https://outriggerzone.com/support/faq/\\	+	Good luck with the repair! \\
-	(Note that OZone uses paint, not gel coat, which may also be different than other manufacturers.)\\	+
-	Good luck with the repair!\\	+
	Zoe		Zoe

-	knblumhagen@... 09/09/22 #32346	+	knblumhagen@…09/09/22 #32346

-	Hi Denise,\\	+	Hi Denise, \\ You'll want to make sure the glass under the dings is clean and dry (salt will be the hard part here), and then rough up the area a bit. It's worth considering your options here: either you fill the volume with a filler (SystemThree makes an excellent epoxy-based Bondo equivalent, Quick Fair) and paint over it, which will be easier and less messy, and require less PPE, but not as UV resistant as the gel coat would be, or you hit it with some gel coat and call it a day, but the gel coat is harder to work with (in my experience, anyway) and requires more PPE (respirator, etc) to safely use. \\ Whichever way you choose, you'll then buff down either the filler or the gel coat (before paint for option 1) and paint if necessary, and you should be done there! \\ Best of luck! \\ Kira
-	You'll want to make sure the glass under the dings is clean and dry (salt will be the hard part here), and then rough up the area a bit. It's worth considering your options here: either you fill the volume with a filler (SystemThree makes an excellent epoxy-based Bondo equivalent, Quick Fair) and paint over it, which will be easier and less messy, and require less PPE, but not as UV resistant as the gel coat would be, or you hit it with some gel coat and call it a day, but the gel coat is harder to work with (in my experience, anyway) and requires more PPE (respirator, etc) to safely use.\\	+
-	Whichever way you choose, you'll then buff down either the filler or the gel coat (before paint for option 1) and paint if necessary, and you should be done there!\\	+
-	Best of luck!\\	+
-	Kira	+

Germany Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Tue, 10 Feb 2026 19:56:26 +0000

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	* [[https://www.kanu.de/WETTKAMPF/Ocean-Sports-52168.html\|Deutscher Kanu-Verband Ocean Sports]] scroll down to bottom right to see full club list - does not include all clubs that support ocean sport vessels		* [[https://www.kanu.de/WETTKAMPF/Ocean-Sports-52168.html\|Deutscher Kanu-Verband Ocean Sports]] scroll down to bottom right to see full club list - does not include all clubs that support ocean sport vessels
	* Ocean Sports is a term in Germany that seems to refer to "canoe" and board sports with origins on the ocean. Clubs in the following list may have surfskis, SUP, dragon boats, outrigger canoes, sprint kayaks, sprint canoes (called "Canadian" in Germany to distinguish them from kayaks, but "Canadian" more broadly also refers to open canoes including voyaging, whitewater, and sprint canoes) etc.		* Ocean Sports is a term in Germany that seems to refer to "canoe" and board sports with origins on the ocean. Clubs in the following list may have surfskis, SUP, dragon boats, outrigger canoes, sprint kayaks, sprint canoes (called "Canadian" in Germany to distinguish them from kayaks, but "Canadian" more broadly also refers to open canoes including voyaging, whitewater, and sprint canoes) etc.
		+	* [[https://www.kanu.de/SERVICE/Termine/Termine-suchen-52067.html?search._digest=true&search._filter=default&search.view=finder.today&search.disziplin=12\|Deutscher Kanu-Verband Ocean Sport Events]] List can include races, training, etc.
	* Small Sample listing of Ocean Sport and Surfski inclusive clubs (the list above from the Kanu-Verband includes 1000 clubs!)		* Small Sample listing of Ocean Sport and Surfski inclusive clubs (the list above from the Kanu-Verband includes 1000 clubs!)
	* Berlin		* Berlin

Germany Downwind/Paddle Videos

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After A Cold Paddle - Getting Warm Again

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	* Foam Pad to Stand on - warmer, more comfortable to stand on, protect the gear you are getting out of - keep your wetsuits clean, minimize wear from contact with rough surfaces		* Foam Pad to Stand on - warmer, more comfortable to stand on, protect the gear you are getting out of - keep your wetsuits clean, minimize wear from contact with rough surfaces
-	* No Changing Room? you can use a towel or that warm robe or poncho you already put on for privacy.	+	* No Changing Room? you can use a towel or that warm paddle robe or poncho you already put on for privacy.
-	* Some robes like Surffur are built to assist changing clothes - roomy enough for changing clothing and provide holes in outer pockets to allow inside access.	+	* [[:paddle_clothing#apres_ski\|Warm Robes]]

Parks Survey (becomes discussion about Cornwall/Glass Beach)

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:02 +0000

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	romoigula** \\		romoigula** \\
-	06/04/19 #24973	+	06/04/19 #24973

	Bellingham Parks & Recreation is updating the PRO Plan (Parks, Recreation & Open Space). Now is the time to add your input as to whether priorities should allow for more dog parks, small boat access, bike trails/parking, etc.		Bellingham Parks & Recreation is updating the PRO Plan (Parks, Recreation & Open Space). Now is the time to add your input as to whether priorities should allow for more dog parks, small boat access, bike trails/parking, etc.

-	https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/Bhamparks	+	[[https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/Bhamparks\|https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/Bhamparks]]

	Romo for President 2020 - Keep the dream alive!		Romo for President 2020 - Keep the dream alive!

	Tyler Irwin \\		Tyler Irwin \\
-	06/04/19 #24974	+	06/04/19 #24974

	I forwarded the link to my paddlers Romo. Thanks.		I forwarded the link to my paddlers Romo. Thanks.
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-	06/04/19 #24976	+	06/04/19 #24976

-	Having a shop down there is a scary situation always wondering if it got broken into over the night... Watch Seattle is Dying, police officers need their authority back.	+	Having a shop down there is a scary situation always wondering if it got broken into over the night… Watch Seattle is Dying, police officers need their authority back.

	Reivers Dustin		Reivers Dustin

-	06/04/19 #24977	+	06/04/19 #24977

-	Please take survey guys. Thx tiger-man. \\	+	Please take survey guys. Thx tiger-man.\\
-	Regards 'homeless' - I'm hearing that homelessness is largely drugs: (root cause of). Now OK … For the occasional person who gets jammed into homelessness and is not a substance abuser it is very damaging to get classified as abuser. (For example: injury/illness loss of job, mental struggles, etc.) … There's harm in generalizing. So law enforcement, media, etc should not be blasting drug abuse out there. But to address the problem at least on a 'first effort', drugs should have a bulls-eye.	+	Regards 'homeless' - I'm hearing that homelessness is largely drugs: (root cause of). Now OK … For the occasional person who gets jammed into homelessness and is not a substance abuser it is very damaging to get classified as abuser. (For example: injury/illness loss of job, mental struggles, etc.) … There's harm in generalizing. So law enforcement, media, etc should not be blasting drug abuse out there. But to address the problem at least on a 'first effort', drugs should have a bulls-eye.

-	Jeeze. did this turn into like a facebook session? I need to be paddling. whuddya doin here RD? I'm out.	+	Jeeze. did this turn into like a facebook session? I need to be paddling. whuddya doin here RD? I'm out.

	Tyler Irwin \\		Tyler Irwin \\
-	06/04/19 #24978	+	06/04/19 #24978

	Reivers, I challenge you take a walk down by Glass Beach sometime and then tell me that the people yelling at the beach logs and sitting blazed out of their minds on the dredge pile access roads aren't "abusing drugs." Yeah, the topic isn't pretty and socially acceptable to discuss, but it is a real problem that the City of Bellingham is letting get out of hand and it needs to be addressed.		Reivers, I challenge you take a walk down by Glass Beach sometime and then tell me that the people yelling at the beach logs and sitting blazed out of their minds on the dredge pile access roads aren't "abusing drugs." Yeah, the topic isn't pretty and socially acceptable to discuss, but it is a real problem that the City of Bellingham is letting get out of hand and it needs to be addressed.
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	David Scherrer \\		David Scherrer \\
-	06/04/19 #24979	+	06/04/19 #24979

-	We might be getting a little off subject here....The PRO plan is addressing our input about the development of future public lands, parks etc.\\	+	We might be getting a little off subject here….The PRO plan is addressing our input about the development of future public lands, parks etc.\\
	It is obvious that we do have a homeless issue. I am confident there are sincere and effective organizations who are dealing with it as they can.		It is obvious that we do have a homeless issue. I am confident there are sincere and effective organizations who are dealing with it as they can.

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	romoigula \\		romoigula \\
-	06/05/19 #24980	+	06/05/19 #24980

	I'm a parks guy, specifically a recreation guy and not at all representative of the Cities response to an international homeless crisis. As for what Bellingham Parks & Recreation is doing I can highlight a few items that have been already well publicized. We try to approach this issue acknowledging a combination of empathy and the need to protect public spaces.		I'm a parks guy, specifically a recreation guy and not at all representative of the Cities response to an international homeless crisis. As for what Bellingham Parks & Recreation is doing I can highlight a few items that have been already well publicized. We try to approach this issue acknowledging a combination of empathy and the need to protect public spaces.
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	We have waste stations that allow people without waste removal services to dispose of their garbage.		We have waste stations that allow people without waste removal services to dispose of their garbage.

-	I wouldn't speak for our men and women in blue, however, the statement "enforcement...is non-existent" is untrue and unfair to them. I recommend contacting both police and fire to learn just exactly how much they, and other agencies, are doing to reduce homelessness.	+	I wouldn't speak for our men and women in blue, however, the statement "enforcement…is non-existent" is untrue and unfair to them. I recommend contacting both police and fire to learn just exactly how much they, and other agencies, are doing to reduce homelessness.

	I would further suggest talking to some of what you describe as, "these people". Many of them have substance abuse issues, others mental health and surely others are just plain criminals. Looking deeper one also finds children, mothers and those rejected by circumstances beyond their control. Making gross generalizations about all people of a certain demographic is part of an even larger problem.		I would further suggest talking to some of what you describe as, "these people". Many of them have substance abuse issues, others mental health and surely others are just plain criminals. Looking deeper one also finds children, mothers and those rejected by circumstances beyond their control. Making gross generalizations about all people of a certain demographic is part of an even larger problem.
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	Marc Blake \\		Marc Blake \\
-	06/05/19 #24981	+	06/05/19 #24981

	ROMO For President 2019!!!		ROMO For President 2019!!!

	Tyler Irwin \\		Tyler Irwin \\
-	06/05/19 #24982	+	06/05/19 #24982

	Romo,		Romo,

-	I appreciate the response. It seems that the City is making attempts to rectify the situation, but the problem is continuing to grow.	+	I appreciate the response. It seems that the City is making attempts to rectify the situation, but the problem is continuing to grow.

	Kai Pana has been in the South Cornwall area for 6 years now and the problems with the street camping and associated garbage and drug use has only gotten worse in that short time. Don't get me wrong with my original email; I completely appreciate everything that the BPD and the Fire Departments do. In fact, their efforts are completely under-appreciated. We've had members who worked for the Fire Department specifically, so we are aware of their continual efforts to help contain this growing problem. We have had to call the BPD 3 times over the past two years to handle this transient population because of their aggressive actions towards our paddlers, and their illegal camping on City and private property. The problem is, their hands are tied.		Kai Pana has been in the South Cornwall area for 6 years now and the problems with the street camping and associated garbage and drug use has only gotten worse in that short time. Don't get me wrong with my original email; I completely appreciate everything that the BPD and the Fire Departments do. In fact, their efforts are completely under-appreciated. We've had members who worked for the Fire Department specifically, so we are aware of their continual efforts to help contain this growing problem. We have had to call the BPD 3 times over the past two years to handle this transient population because of their aggressive actions towards our paddlers, and their illegal camping on City and private property. The problem is, their hands are tied.
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	Paul Reavley \\		Paul Reavley \\
-	06/05/19 #24983	+	06/05/19 #24983

	While I agree with several of Lance's comments I also recognize it is easy for me to sit back and do or say nothing in particular because I do not have my business (like Dan) or my club property (like Tyler) more directly at risk. The one time this Spring I launched from Glass Beach I did not want to leave my car out of sight.		While I agree with several of Lance's comments I also recognize it is easy for me to sit back and do or say nothing in particular because I do not have my business (like Dan) or my club property (like Tyler) more directly at risk. The one time this Spring I launched from Glass Beach I did not want to leave my car out of sight.
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	David Scherrer \\		David Scherrer \\
-	06/05/19 #24984	+	06/05/19 #24984

-	Very well said Lance...Thanks.\\	+	Very well said Lance…Thanks.\\
	D		D

	Michael Gregory \\		Michael Gregory \\
-	06/05/19 #24985	+	06/05/19 #24985

	Well said Romo		Well said Romo
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-	06/05/19 #24986	+	06/05/19 #24986

-	The police (my friends) & fire (me) can only enforce the rules laid out by our mayor and city council. The mayoral position & several city council positions will be open this coming November. If you live in the city limits, you better vote.	+	The police (my friends) & fire (me) can only enforce the rules laid out by our mayor and city council. The mayoral position & several city council positions will be open this coming November. If you live in the city limits, you better vote.

	Rick Lingbloom \\		Rick Lingbloom \\
-	06/05/19 #24988	+	06/05/19 #24988

-	Super important issues that affect us all and deserve to be discussed. I'm just not sure that this Whatcom Paddlers site is the appropriate forum (other than Lance's original post about the survey).\\	+	Super important issues that affect us all and deserve to be discussed. I'm just not sure that this Whatcom Paddlers site is the appropriate forum (other than Lance's original post about the survey).\\
	OK, now it's time to go to Bloedel and paddle in the rain!\\		OK, now it's time to go to Bloedel and paddle in the rain!\\
	Rick L		Rick L

	paul clement \\		paul clement \\
-	06/05/19 #24989	+	06/05/19 #24989

	Quote of the day:\\		Quote of the day:\\
-	“...it's still a banner fucking day for me.”\\	+	“…it's still a banner fucking day for me.”\\
	Worth reading through the whole post. Kudos!\\		Worth reading through the whole post. Kudos!\\
	pc		pc

	Nicholas Cryder \\		Nicholas Cryder \\
-	06/06/19 #24990	+	06/06/19 #24990

	Good thread. No easy answers but an issue that affects us all. Timely read on the political aspects of this, and how they factor at the neighborhood level:		Good thread. No easy answers but an issue that affects us all. Timely read on the political aspects of this, and how they factor at the neighborhood level:

-	https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/god-help-whoever-wins-seattle-elections-could-hinge-on-voter-angst-over-street-homelessness/	+	[[https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/god-help-whoever-wins-seattle-elections-could-hinge-on-voter-angst-over-street-homelessness/\|https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/god-help-whoever-wins-seattle-elections-could-hinge-on-voter-angst-over-street-homelessness/]]

-	Side note to get us on the water: is there an ordinance or law that would prevent someone from going motor-homeless on the water? Say I bought a barge, and just parked an RV on top... What next?	+	Side note to get us on the water: is there an ordinance or law that would prevent someone from going motor-homeless on the water? Say I bought a barge, and just parked an RV on top… What next?

	Nicholas Cryder		Nicholas Cryder
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-	06/06/19 #24991	+	06/06/19 #24991

	NIcholas,\\		NIcholas,\\
-	Interesting idea with the barge and RV I suspect we will see more of that sort of thing in the future.....or for that matter surplus aircraft carriers.\\	+	Interesting idea with the barge and RV I suspect we will see more of that sort of thing in the future…..or for that matter surplus aircraft carriers.\\
	Not sure how the Port would feel about RV barges anchored in the Bay. They have been coming down on liveaboards recently.		Not sure how the Port would feel about RV barges anchored in the Bay. They have been coming down on liveaboards recently.

-	On a another historical note...over 40 years ago I remember that the Cornwall beach area was a common meeting place for wanderers/hobos etc.\\	+	On a another historical note…over 40 years ago I remember that the Cornwall beach area was a common meeting place for wanderers/hobos etc.\\
	Something about the closeness to the RR, and just the general remote location, yet in the city. Nobody really seemed to bother each other, neutral territory.\\		Something about the closeness to the RR, and just the general remote location, yet in the city. Nobody really seemed to bother each other, neutral territory.\\
-	It was also the site of an active historical ferry dock. Up until the beginning of 21st century you could still paddle by the loading structure. The "Drydock" building that stands on the corner, was and may still be the location of AA. The old industrial (south) site past the building is the location of a major toxic leakage seep into the bay (wood preservative) Thus the metal barriers you see driven down along the shore. Money is still being sought after to excavate and replenish that site that was screwed up by the industrial age....One last note, the whole massive flat land areas around Cornwall over to GP, Boulveard park, Squalicum and beyond ending at LIttle Squalicum Creek, is fill.	+	It was also the site of an active historical ferry dock. Up until the beginning of 21st century you could still paddle by the loading structure. The "Drydock" building that stands on the corner, was and may still be the location of AA. The old industrial (south) site past the building is the location of a major toxic leakage seep into the bay (wood preservative) Thus the metal barriers you see driven down along the shore. Money is still being sought after to excavate and replenish that site that was screwed up by the industrial age….One last note, the whole massive flat land areas around Cornwall over to GP, Boulveard park, Squalicum and beyond ending at LIttle Squalicum Creek, is fill.

	David Hooper \\		David Hooper \\
-	06/07/19 #24998	+	06/07/19 #24998

	Nicholas,\\		Nicholas,\\
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	suggesting projects in our paddling access areas to the City, County, Parks, whomever, that might help with win-win solutions, and gathering a group of volunteers to help with the work.\\		suggesting projects in our paddling access areas to the City, County, Parks, whomever, that might help with win-win solutions, and gathering a group of volunteers to help with the work.\\
	personally donating to some of the local organizations working with homelessness. Here are a few, (noting that some people like some, but not others, and vice versa, for their own personal reasons. I'm not advocating one or the other, just putting them out there):\\		personally donating to some of the local organizations working with homelessness. Here are a few, (noting that some people like some, but not others, and vice versa, for their own personal reasons. I'm not advocating one or the other, just putting them out there):\\
-	Lighthouse Mission and Agape House (https://www.thelighthousemission.org/)	+	Lighthouse Mission and Agape House ([[https://www.thelighthousemission.org/\|https://www.thelighthousemission.org/]])

-	HomesNow (https://homesnow.org/)\\	+	HomesNow ([[https://homesnow.org/\|https://homesnow.org/]])\\
-	City of Bellingham and Whatcom Homeless Service Center (https://www.cob.org/services/housing/homeless/Pages/be-part-of-the-solution.aspx) (good list of organizations dealing with the issue at this link).	+	City of Bellingham and Whatcom Homeless Service Center ([[https://www.cob.org/services/housing/homeless/Pages/be-part-of-the-solution.aspx\|https://www.cob.org/services/housing/homeless/Pages/be-part-of-the-solution.aspx]]) (good list of organizations dealing with the issue at this link).

	I agree with others who have pointed out that just being in a life position to go play on the Bay in our sporty boats, we've all already won the global lottery. Now looking for some constructive steps to take to help move the conversation (and action) forward.		I agree with others who have pointed out that just being in a life position to go play on the Bay in our sporty boats, we've all already won the global lottery. Now looking for some constructive steps to take to help move the conversation (and action) forward.
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	Dave H.		Dave H.
		+
		+	**Re: PRO Plan- Water Bound homeless....\\
		+	Pmarcus** \\
		+	06/06/19 #24992
		+
		+	On the water issue is the same but not so rampant here!
		+
		+	Take a look in Richardson Bay just around the corner from Fort Baker in San Fran Bay. We have a couple of yachts here in town that are right off the Taylor Street Dock. They are completely unmonitored. The USCG only responds to distress and reports of people in the water. The Port has jurisdiction only where they have mooring buoys and then it becomes a DNR issue if not, which has very little funds, hence the boats during the last big blow dragging across the bay and now permanently, a land sculpture. I have been in town since I was 5 and like Lance R have to pinch myself on days like this or even crappy days surfing with the relatively ease to the water and able to afford our toys and my next meal. But this still doesn't allow myself to feel that we are enabling a lot of which is going on downtown and surrounding areas. I see homeland sercurity fly all over the place in the air, on the water and parked in the Border Patrol Rigs. What if we took a lot of that alloted Tax Payer Money and provided more vehicles with counselors to assist, (like the opportunity council cars) or use to relocate the lighthouse mission and surrounding facilities to open Green Space where maybe a temp homeless camp could be set up while individuals are in a struggling situation and not so near so much easily aceessible public use land. Our community appears to welcome and hopefully help theses individuals but should this have that much of an impact on a much larger percent of the population that for the most part made the right decisions?? Seems callous but think about that......We have the latest and greatest technology in the USA, so you would think this would be powerful enough to stop the influx of drugs into town...We fight Cancers, HIV research, how come Addiction, Metal illness and making poor financial choices and abuse rank so low on most peoples radar..isnt this just as important? Take a look at all the large buildings near or in downtown that are built catered to Low Income (want to define this?) I am a little confused about this....
		+
		+	So....while your out paddling, study your Voters Pamphlet and make decsions that will improve and impact our community. Everyone always says "lots of issues to deal with" as an answer. We have great Policemen and Policewomen and great Firefighters and Paramedics who deal with this all the time, maybe we should all chip in to create a Homeless Force: (These counselors and medical staff respond just like our law enforecement and Firefighters to deal with theses issues?) Not just one car and one or two persons but a Force.......Far Fetched, I dont know? I fished for 28 years and when something broke you immediately got the right part and fixed it and moved on...Things are broke.....What parts do we need, lets fix this! I am in!!!!
		+
		+	Respectively, Peter

Larry Goodson's Cold Weather/Water Clothing Choices in the Columbia Gorge

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:02 +0000

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		+	Larry:

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	My self rescue a couple of weeks ago included 5 remounts and approximately 30 minutes total in the water. I was just barely dressed adequately with the following:		My self rescue a couple of weeks ago included 5 remounts and approximately 30 minutes total in the water. I was just barely dressed adequately with the following:

Adding Telemetry Gauges to GoPro Video

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Fri, 15 Aug 2025 15:41:51 +0000

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-	(one boater's comments in late 2020 - see latest updates/comments at [[::gopro_gauges#telemetry_overlay\|end of this article]] our bottom line now is just use Telemetry Overlay)	+	(All comments regarding "Quik for desktops" are based on the Windows version. No experience with the Apple desktop version)

-	I have a GoPro Hero 7. If you have GPS turned on with your GoPro - your GoPro will store its gps data in your video files. The GoPro app (now called "legacy app" by GoPro probably because they don't intend to support it) that allows you to show various displays and gauges for data in the videos is Quik. In general you need to turn on any data display/gauge you are interested in before you do any other editing of the original GoPro videos, because editing will often discard the GPS data attached to the GoPro video files. (Editors that import video don't typically edit the originals so you won't lose the data that way - it's only editing the original mp4 files that will lose the data). I have only used the desktop version of Quik because among other things video editing/mods with a phone seems absurd to me. I guess some kind of canned modifications with a phone for output to social media might be reasonable but that's not my interest. (//Editor's note 4/2022 - using the GoPro mobile app may be the only up-to-date way that GoPro currently provides for adding gauges - Quik reportedly doesn't work for Hero 8 and even though GoPro considers Quik for desktops to be "legacy" software they have not provided anything newer for non-mobile editing - which personally seems almost bizarre to me, although as a programmer I am somewhat familiar with how hardware companies under budget or neglect software support//).	+	(one boater's comments in late 2020 - see latest updates/comments at [[:gopro_gauges#telemetry_overlay\|end of this article]] our bottom line now is just use Telemetry Overlay)
		+
		+	I have a GoPro Hero 7. If you have GPS turned on with your GoPro - your GoPro will store its gps data in your video files. The GoPro desktop app (now called "legacy app" by GoPro probably because they don't intend to support it) that allows you to show various displays and gauges for data in the videos is Quik. In general you need to turn on any data display/gauge you are interested in before you do any other editing of the original GoPro videos, because editing will often discard the GPS data attached to the GoPro video files. (Editors that import video don't typically edit the originals so you won't lose the data that way - it's only editing the original mp4 files that will lose the data). I have only used the desktop version of Quik because among other things video editing/mods with a phone seems absurd to me. I guess some kind of canned modifications with a phone for output to social media might be reasonable but that's not my interest. (//Editor's note 4/2022 - using the GoPro mobile app may be the only up-to-date way that GoPro currently provides for adding gauges - Quik for desktops reportedly doesn't work for Hero 8 and even though GoPro considers Quik for desktops to be "legacy" software they have not provided anything newer for non-mobile editing - which personally seems almost bizarre to me, although as a programmer I am somewhat familiar with how hardware companies under budget or neglect software support//).

	You can still download Quik for desktops from GoPro. Unfortunately there have been all kinds of problems with the Hero 8 and gauge enabling.		You can still download Quik for desktops from GoPro. Unfortunately there have been all kinds of problems with the Hero 8 and gauge enabling.
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-	There are 3rd party programs that can be used to enable gauges (that probably also work with the Hero 8) - I have gone down this route before, in part because Quik is lousy software with all kinds of bugs, but the alternatives I have used are not a piece of cake to use (//exception //see [[:gopro_gauges#telemetry_overlay\|Telemetry Overlay comment below]]) either (making copies of the original videos is a good precaution if you wind up experimenting with all of this). If you have a Hero 8 we can talk about what you might do to enable gauges. If you have a previous Hero model and want to use Quik - I have a few suggestions about how to avoid some of its annoyances.	+	There are 3rd party programs that can be used to enable gauges (that probably also work with the Hero 8) - I have gone down this route before, in part because Quik for desktop is lousy software with all kinds of bugs, but the alternatives I have used are not a piece of cake to use (//exception //see [[:gopro_gauges#telemetry_overlay\|Telemetry Overlay comment below]]) either (making copies of the original videos is a good precaution if you wind up experimenting with all of this). If you have a Hero 8 we can talk about what you might do to enable gauges. If you have a previous Hero model and want to use Quik for desktops - I have a few suggestions about how to avoid some of its annoyances.

	To elaborate a little further - what Quik does is to take the GPS data attached to a GoPro video file (if GPS was turned on) and reprocesses the video adding a video overlay that displays the data via a gauge or graph in sync with the visual display. I suspect that most other consumer cameras do something similar if they can (tack on data to video files). It would not make much sense to require most affordable video cameras to do extra processing in real time to add such gauges to their videos as they are being recorded. Adding gauges really should be a post recording process. Maybe when we have even more affordable, faster processors in video cameras that will change, but the increase in processing power will have to come faster than their increase in resolution, etc.		To elaborate a little further - what Quik does is to take the GPS data attached to a GoPro video file (if GPS was turned on) and reprocesses the video adding a video overlay that displays the data via a gauge or graph in sync with the visual display. I suspect that most other consumer cameras do something similar if they can (tack on data to video files). It would not make much sense to require most affordable video cameras to do extra processing in real time to add such gauges to their videos as they are being recorded. Adding gauges really should be a post recording process. Maybe when we have even more affordable, faster processors in video cameras that will change, but the increase in processing power will have to come faster than their increase in resolution, etc.

-	Okay - when you get around to trying Quik don't be surprised if it sucks somewhat.	+	Okay - when you get around to trying Quik for desktops don't be surprised if it sucks somewhat.

	Basic procedure once you have found and opened the video in question for viewing within Quik (Quik can also perform firmware updates for older GoPros I believe):		Basic procedure once you have found and opened the video in question for viewing within Quik (Quik can also perform firmware updates for older GoPros I believe):

Gorge downwind run information

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:03 +0000

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	John Rybczyk \\		John Rybczyk \\
-	08/05/13 #14695	+	08/05/13 #14695

-	For the Stevenson to Home Valley run you will find a rock island about halfway through the run (slightly WA side) and another set of rocks right before the take-out. The safest thing to do is to pass on the OR side of the take-out rocks and then come into Home Valley. It is possible to shoot to the inside of those take-out rocks, but there are more, hard to see rocks on the inside that you may or may not see (depending upon river level).	+	For the Stevenson to Home Valley run you will find a rock island about halfway through the run (slightly WA side) and another set of rocks right before the take-out. The safest thing to do is to pass on the OR side of the take-out rocks and then come into Home Valley. It is possible to shoot to the inside of those take-out rocks, but there are more, hard to see rocks on the inside that you may or may not see (depending upon river level).

-	The Home-Valley to Drano Lake, in my opinion, is more straight forward and easier. Usually, its calmer on the WA side, and you can venture out towards the middle as conditions and your comfort level dictate. No rocks to worry about. Drano Lake can be identified by the train trestle that spans the inlet.	+	The Home-Valley to Drano Lake, in my opinion, is more straight forward and easier. Usually, its calmer on the WA side, and you can venture out towards the middle as conditions and your comfort level dictate. No rocks to worry about. Drano Lake can be identified by the train trestle that spans the inlet.

-	On all legs, watch for barge traffic and gill nets that are marked by large while buoys. Make damn sure that you're leashed well to your boat. The river flows west and the winds blow to the east. If you fall off your boat and you are not leashed, or if the leash fails, you go one way and the boat goes the other. You will be instantly separated from your boat and you will NOT be able to catch it.	+	On all legs, watch for barge traffic and gill nets that are marked by large white buoys. Make damn sure that you're leashed well to your boat. The river flows west and the winds blow to the east. If you fall off your boat and you are not leashed, or if the leash fails, you go one way and the boat goes the other. You will be instantly separated from your boat and you will NOT be able to catch it.

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	warren bruce \\		warren bruce \\
-	08/05/13 #14696	+	08/05/13 #14696

-	Here's a link to the best forecast site: http://thegorgeismygym.com/forecast/\\	+	Here's a link to the best forecast site: [[http://thegorgeismygym.com/forecast/\|http://thegorgeismygym.com/forecast/]]\\
-	Here's a link to the best paddle wheeler wash ride you'll ever have: http://www.portlandspirit.com/sternwheeler.php#sightseeing	+	Here's a link to the best paddle wheeler wash ride you'll ever have: [[http://www.portlandspirit.com/sternwheeler.php#sightseeing\|http://www.portlandspirit.com/sternwheeler.php#sightseeing]]

	Reivers Dustin \\		Reivers Dustin \\
-	08/05/13 #14697	+	08/05/13 #14697

-	Good point about leashing up. I've ridden over the gill-nets with no harm to them or me. But my imagination goes nuts when I think about coming off the boat near one.	+	Good point about leashing up. I've ridden over the gill-nets with no harm to them or me. But my imagination goes nuts when I think about coming off the boat near one.

-	....	+	….

	rd		rd

Gorge Coast Guard boat ID alert

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:03 +0000

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	+	Waterman Larry \\
	+	07/26/18 #23543
	+
	+	Hey Bellingham paddlers. The US Coast Guard has made a reasonable request of us paddlers. The following was posted by our marina manager at the Hood River Marina and applies to us. If your remount is bomber........you don't need to heed this warning. Our local sheriff also wants some assistance.
	+
	+	Larry Goodson
	+
	+	"COAST GUARD: I just received email from the OSMB that the Coast seeks the help of all owners of kayaks, canoes and other paddlecrafts to label their vessel with essential contact information. Every unmanned-adrift paddlecraft is treated as a potential distress situation, however, when the craft is properly labelled the situation can often be quickly resolved with a phone call to the vessel owner, which minimizes personnel fatigue and negative impacts on crew readiness.\\
	+	\\
	+	We don’t have the Coast Guard here in Hood River however our Marine Sheriff Curtis Kowell would appreciate the same consideration.\\
	+	\\
	+	Paddlecraft owners should label their vessel using a permanent or waterproof marker covered with clear waterproof tape for increased durability. OSMB has offered a Paddle Smart Identification Sticker that at the very least should include the name of the owner, a number to reach them and a secondary point of contact."

Gorge Race 2018 (and future registration policy?)

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:03 +0000

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	+
	+	**Gorge Results\\
	+	lori & beau whitehead** \\
	+	07/20/18 #23480
	+
	+	[[https://raceday.enmotive.com/#/events/gorge-downwind-champs/results\|https://raceday.enmotive.com/#/events/gorge-downwind-champs/results]]
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	07/20/18 #23478
	+
	+	whoa. a few folks got their eye poked out. some were seen walking the freeway alongside the river with no boat and paddle in hand. there were quite a few who signed up, dressed up, registered, sat through pre-race safety meeting walked their boats and boards down to the river, looked at it, turned around and walked their gear back to their car and drove away.
	+
	+	Of the hardy (or lower IQ) who did the race there were many who swam. There is at least one boat (w/o paddler) rolling up river towards the next dam. There might be some boats abandoned alongside the river waiting for their paddler to come back from their hiking leg. Some very notary paddlers went swimming. Rumor is that Simon "pitch-poled", then did a jesus-re-entry. Witnesses said he didn't actually get any water on his clothes. My roomie down here is Richard Spork who is to be kind, "seasoned". He's a great roomie and paddler from Hawaii. Also did a brief swimming leg. Old Barnacles are trying to adopt him into the club, but he's howling and objecting that he's much too good looking. We've tried to tease some of the big dogs who swam, but they appear to mean it, "anyone can take a header". I guess especially when they are pushing the limits. Although I notice a sparkle in their eye when they look at the other big dog who swam.
	+
	+	A couple stories: Seth Putnam saved some guy's flyiing boat at the start. Leash snap rolled out of the attachment just the way LB likes to show people. The guy, with Seth's help, got back in form just as the race was starting. Anna S. was 3rd fastest woman, just 20 seconds behind second woman. The Scoggins fambly found out that daughter's bodies weighing less than 80 pounds don't stay put when the wind is that big. They bailed at Draino, so actually no harm. DJ and Jonas E. can levitate a double surfski. These two surprised quite a few paddlers. For example OC legion was about as many as surfski tribe. Including Bartlett's and other OC legends. I will have dreams for months of how those OC paddlers flew by me reading waves like sorcerers. Kai's mom and dad paddled OC-2 and that must have been something to watch. In fact Kathleen P wrangled a ride on a safety boat or was talked into it. When I talked to her post-race, she was buzzed about being able to witness the skills on display from a good perspective. Carter had many safety boats and they stayed busy.
	+
	+	Too much to post in one shot. Except in Old Barnacle dog-pile, Dmow was top. Except notice that LB and David took unfair advantage of their old age and cunning and squeeked by Duncan and me at the finish.
	+
	+	Timing had problems so it will be a day or so before official results. So we are going to be telling some big lies until then.
	+
	+	rd
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger \\
	+	07/21/18 #23481
	+
	+	Alas, LB didn’t beat RD. Alas i went over. Twice. In breaking waves. In 18” of water!? I did have my remount nailed though; I stood up and sat down on the boat.
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin
	+
	+	07/22/18 #23483
	+
	+	Drove back yesterday (Sat) and thank you for all the phone calls and hand waves. Except it turns out I was NOT a celebrity. One of my boat racks slid from the high wind and the boat looked funny on my truck. People all up and down I-5 corridor were trying to tell me to check my load. I finally got it.
	+
	+	But for a time I was feeling real special. "They love me! .. They really love me!"
	+
	+	rd
	+
	+	Duncan Howat \\
	+	07/22/18 #23491
	+
	+	Sooo I think the old guys got 10 runs in, none better than race day. Carter put one heck of a week together, and deserves great praise from all of us. Six days of wind helps too. That entry fee (at least this year) was the paddle bargain of the decade.One thing worries me though, those approx 300 people who decided to not go on thurs, will now probably go home and re think their approach to the game, knowing competitive paddlers ,train in real waves when they can, and come back next year un daunted ,loaded for bear, and make it really tough on those who cruised through this year. On other notes, rumor has it that a local counselor actually pitched forward out of his boat, but had presence of mind to do a front flip and stuck it and was back in the boat before it slowed down.. True story. First time we ever lost a boat off the trailer, turning a corner in the parking lot, just after getting off of 84, and only a little scratch. The BBQ's the theoretical paddle technique, but surfing got the most attention, and rightfully so . Lastly this time of year it always best to go home the back way , and stop and buy fresh picked Maryhill peaches. After that week , now what? Big Wave
	+
	+	Duncan Howat \\
	+	07/23/18 #23492
	+
	+	Something to think about. This next years race could sell out in a day. Be ready if you want to do it. More thoughts coming about why this week is so worth while on so many levels. D
	+
	+	michaelwood \\
	+	07/23/18 #23493
	+
	+	What's next? Over here in Strait of Juan de Fuca are fabulous downwind conditions for the next 2 months. Mike Mauch and I have been running the Freshwater Bay to Port Angeles route the last month, 13 miles. There's also Cresent Bay 4 mi west to add distance or for a shorter run. Also Dungeness Landing to Port Townsend.
	+
	+	Conditions can be sporty or mellow depending on strength of West ,NWwind,ocean swell,and whether flood or ebb ,and tide range.\\
	+	There's good camping at Salt Creek Park which puts you right there for the PA runs.
	+
	+	15+W wind is good, 20-25 excellent,25-30 very sporty and fun. Especially fast with a flood. For those who found Gorge race day fun you'll like it. From a safety standpoint, bailouts are limited as you're paddling along a coastline far from a road. So usual precautions and good skills appropriate.
	+
	+	However, doing out/backs from Freshwater is good for all levels as there's a nice small bump that wraps around into FB to play on. And it's an easy beach launch protected from surf breaks.
	+
	+	FB also has boat ramp should anyone want chase or photo boat.
	+
	+	The 3 lonely ski and one man paddlers over here will be doing runs in the next 10 days if conditions allow and will give a report..\\
	+	As for next year's sign up, I would hope Carter gives first preference to those of us who have been going every year . Or at least hold spots with a deadline for sign up.
	+
	+	Duncan Howat \\
	+	07/23/18 #23494
	+
	+	As far as a guaranteed entry goes, like the Head of The Charles in Boston, which has 5000 rowers, you must finish within 5% of the winning time in your age group. Or coming from a lower age group to a older one same thing applies for your time. Then there are draws, and your either lucky or not. A bit of number work, but then they have a year round staff. Hopefully thats where the gorge is headed . Carter has got to pay at least himself. 5% on times ranging from one hour 20 to two hours fifteen is quite a bit of time to be inclusive of most serious people, but then the draw opens it up for newbie"s. I've seen it happen back there where some one is so fast that only that person qualifies. Well thats the way it goes. D
	+
	+	Tyler Irwin \\
	+	07/23/18 #23495
	+
	+	I hope that's not the way it goes. I have taken part in the DW champs (two years ago), and it was a hell of a lot of fun. However, this event needs to maintain the 'first come, first serve' registration mentality for racers, regardless if you're amateur or pro, have blazing-saddle speed or you're just in it for the surf.
	+
	+	-Tyler
	+
	+	Duncan Howat \\
	+	07/23/18 #23496
	+
	+	Nope, that does not build the outstanding reputation of the race. It’s not a casual event any more.
	+
	+	Tyler Irwin \\
	+	07/23/18 #23497
	+
	+	This year's results are a good argument against having some sort of "preferred" startlist. There was a huge handful of extremely talented and capable paddlers that didn't have their best race day on Thursday. To move to a entry system based on past-year's results would move those paddlers to the outskirts, hoping for a lottery pick.
	+
	+	Unless I am completely mis-understanding the system you've described, I don't think this would sit well with anyone.
	+
	+	Yes, there has to be a level of big-water competency to race the Gorge, but to move it to invitation-only is completely unnecessary.
	+
	+	-Tyler
	+
	+	michaelwood \\
	+	07/23/18 #23498
	+
	+	Being in the Kapuna divisions does have benefits if Carter goes to qualifiers! Another good motivation to keep improving as we grow older.
	+
	+	Michael Medler \\
	+	07/23/18 #23499
	+
	+	I think it might be good to separate registration for the week-long festival from the registration for the race. Plenty of folks seemed to be more than happy enough just downwinding. I also think that if we get the chips figured out, we could just do 50-person seeded starts right off the beach with color coded numbers. That way the 60+ crowd could all tell who they were really racing against.\\
	+	MM
	+
	+	njcooksey@ymail.com \\
	+	07/23/18 #23500
	+
	+	Yes, that's how triathlon starts are done, Elite wave then age groups in waves with coded number so you know who to chase down later in the race.
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	07/23/18 #23501
	+
	+	Tyler,\\
	+	I'm sometimes too "motherly", you know sort of, "it's all fun and games until someone gets their eye poked out". Here's my thing: I saw so many folks just way over their head. Two couples paid the bucks, drove up from Lake Havasu and got in some shuttle runs. But they were no way safe out their on race day. I heard shuttle drivers talking about all the folks they saw during the week walking out because they couldn't finish the run (not on race day, but when it was "calmer"). Here's a metric: 290 people that paid, dressed up, got their chip, sat through pre-race orientation and walked their boat to the river decided after looking to walk their boat back to their car and drive away. This is silly, almost 1/3 of registrants. Especially silly when so many from Hawaii, Austrailia, etc. wanted badly to come and race, but were closed out.
	+
	+	Carter gives high cred to those folks who walked away. And I agree. It's a hard thing to step off. Not just the personal factors, but if someone really gets hurt it may take the event off the calendar. A lot of folks have ideas. But if you are race director and you see what goes down (as Carter did) you know in your bones it is a damn thin line between you and ghostbuster bad. Or how about when JD was running Wildside? He personally inspected every boat and paddler. Many were ejected. He refused me at first until I came up with a better leash on my initial Wildside. And no, that's not an option for 750 racers. However you vet (qualify) a racer has to be built in.
	+
	+	At some point this can't be like Soundrowers who takes all comers. The Gorge is a test against harsh reality. It's not as much a test against others. Being first to pay the fee don't seem right for this event. It's just too gnar.\\
	+	rd
	+
	+	Michael Gregory \\
	+	07/23/18 #23502
	+
	+	Seems as though I recall, years ago, race officials required recent racing history to qualify for entry to the race. MG
	+
	+	Steve Scoggins \\
	+	07/23/18 #23503
	+
	+	I have a "sixth sense" feeling that Carter will do whatever he wants.
	+
	+	While we are at it, The Western Hemisphere Flat Water Surfski/Outrigger Championships is coming up soon at Lake Samish. Aka Salmon Row. Registration is open and will be capped at 1000, winky smile. Feel free to send me your racing credentials for your seeded start. I'm joking. Don't do that. But please do register.\\
	+	[[https://www.webscorer.com/register?raceid=125511\|https://www.webscorer.com/register?raceid=125511]]
	+
	+	Steve
	+
	+	**Gorge 2018\\
	+	Waterman Larry** \\
	+	07/23/18 #23504
	+
	+	I'm glad to hear you folks talk about the difficulty of this race. It was my first and I only got launched once. I don't think I would have been allowed to register in a qualification situation as I hadn't paddled a racing surfski until a few days before the race. I just hope we have conditions like that every year as some of the surf rides were truly unbelievable. I was hooting and hollering at the others on the waves but they just kept their heads down and pushed on. What fun! I took a good minute relaxing in the water before the remount and watched several competitors fly by. My My, you guys take this stuff seriously.
	+
	+	Oh yeah, I think I was the only paddler with a helmet. And I was glad to have it through the middle section which was as big hydraulically as I have seen. I plan to avoid that line in the future in winds over 35.
	+
	+	At start time, Viento was average 34 miles per hour. Some of the gusts in the narrows were pushing 45.
	+
	+	Could any of you fast guys tell me what was the best line that day? I think I hugged the Oregon side too much.
	+
	+	Thanks to Reivers and the other Whatcom paddlers who let me paddle with them a couple of evenings prior to the race. Without your encouragement, I would have left my entrance in the short course. After doing my first group paddle with you guys, I changed my registration to the long course. It was awesome!
	+
	+	Thanks again to Kirk C for providing me with a proper racing ski just in time for the event. I am still not used to it, but getting less tippy every day. (Huki S1-X)
	+
	+	Larry Goodson\\
	+	\\
	+	John Rybczyk \\
	+	07/23/18 #23507
	+
	+	More telling, last year when conditions were calm, 100 registrants still chose not to race (396 did race). I'm no mathematician, but that's about 20%. Therefore, if race slots are truly the limiting factor, then it might make sense to have race, no-race option at registration to accommodate more paddlers. Also, I acknowledge that it's very easy for me to pontificate from afar when I don't actually lift a finger with regards to putting on the race. Although I had a hoot doing the race this year, if for no other reason than to provide Beau with a free "gong show," I'm really more interested in the week-long shuttle/festival experience. I think the price is a bargain either way, race or no. Great job by Carter and crew.
	+
	+	Johnr\\
	+	\\
	+	allipp@… \\
	+	07/23/18 #23508
	+
	+	Somehow the numbers don't add up. Or actually they add up to too many! 481 paddlers (or teams) are shown to have finished the race, add another 290 that are supposed to have backed out on race day, and that adds up to 771. Presumably at least another hundred or more paddlers that had already signed up didn't show.. that comes out to nearly 900. I thought the race was capped at 750?
	+
	+	Paul Reavley \\
	+	07/23/18 #23509
	+
	+	Here's another vote for allowing separate festival and race entry. And the provision of serious beach anchors for the vendor tents.
	+
	+	\\
	+	**Gorge 2018 Video\\
	+	lori & beau whitehead** \\
	+	07/21/18 #23482\\
	+	Edited 07/23/18
	+
	+	Rolled back into Bellingham around midnight last night, thoroughly satisfied & wiped out after 48 miles of downwinding in 3 days. The Gorge really delivered (except for the 6 mans) this year. I've had better races for sure, and there's a lot of room to improve, but like Romo says; "nothing ruins a good downwinder like turning it into a race." Hard to believe after all of Carters warnings of big conditions, the absolute gong show I paddled through when we started catching the back of the skis. I think I asked 3 swimmers if they were ok. Maybe it was a language barrier. Utterly amazed, (but not really surprised) At Ana's 3rd place against the best in the world. That's my kids babysitter! Dang.
	+
	+	Took the GoPro out on Friday when we ran the whole course again in the morning… Swell City was massive (at least by my standards) but that dang lens makes it look kinda Rated PG. Hope everyone makes it back safe & sound.
	+
	+	[[https://vimeo.com/281090936\|https://vimeo.com/281090936]]
	+
	+	**Gorge Recovery\\
	+	Dennis Mowry** \\
	+	07/25/18 #23532
	+
	+	It was a great week. I guess I wore myself out at the Gorge, slept a bunch two days afterwards.
	+
	+	Maybe I also wore out a few of the others with the tight quarters, all the exciting runs, competitive spirit and being over caffeinated.\\
	+	I think it would be great to be able to find a place where we could all stay in or around the same place rather than be spread out all over the place. I know it would be tough to get more in the van. Maybe a few larger evening gatherings?
	+
	+	Looking forward to next year,\\
	+	:D'
	+

2019 Gorge Report

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:03 +0000

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	+	[[https://raceday.enmotive.com/#/events/2019-gorge-downwind-champs/\|results]]
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	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	07/20/19 #25225
	+
	+	I had a blast, along with several hundred others. This whole thing is like a dang Mardi Gras event. There are dozens of moveable feasts going off all up and down the river. Put another notch for Carter and team picking the right day to pull the trigger. And all week folks were running every nook and cranny of the river. I'm seeing paddlers everytime I close my eyes. One day I saw a surfski upside down with a helper standing by. As I got closer it was a lady who looked like she was just jumping on and off the boat for the heck of it. As I went by she yelled out, "What a blast this is!!!" Obviously not in distress, doing what we should all be doing more of: defy propriety and do everything wrong just to see what happens. Here's another one: some rascally folks were tearing up the river in a three person surfski. Tons of OC boats out. Many probably had done the OC event a few days before and stuck around. At Bob's Beach we met OC folks out here from Havasu area. At race start I heard a young lady speaking a strange beautiful language and found out she was Brazilian. Cool.
	+
	+	Someone mentioned to me that local business folks had told them that there are many events there, and our group was best for polite, friendly category. Good thing because we make a huge crowd. I know I contributed to the mayhem by loosing several personal items at different places. Thanks Josh for finding my pants and not telling the world that I lost them. Oops, did I just tell the world? Thanks Jamie. Uh, that was a nice place to hang.
	+
	+	I had forgotten about pFriem brewery. Thank goodness I remembered after doing the race. If you are strong of heart, check out "Sherry Cask Aged Blond Barleywine". You won't be slamming down a six-pack. If you drink three you better have a solid low brace and a bombproof roll. Thanks David.
	+
	+	I learned a ton. Foremost was that everyone out there is working against their limitations. Not against each other. Before I could fully explain all the details about my sore elbow, someone in the group would quietly mention something that made me shut the heck up. Patrick with his blown up shoulder trying to get out of the shark's cafeteria. An more stories, which probably don't belong in public. But I know Patrick won't mind because nobody thinks he's a shy guy. Anyway, for some reason this sport seems to accommodate a super wide range of abilities. Thank you goes to top paddlers for holding up a culture of patience and un-stoppable joy in the sport. A great example is the youngsters. So approachable, look you in the eye, full of spirit.
	+
	+	My race was lucky. I only hit one dead spot which had me badly demoralized at the time. But I got into several wave-trains and was able to finish with no puke left anywhere on the river. I suppose that would have been unkind to anyone behind me. I was stunned by how fast those SUP paddlers were. Hard to pass. Next year I'm hoping that two barges slow everyone else and by magic I'm the only guy riding the sternwheeler wake. OK. I'll save you the reply LB: I'd probably be riding it the wrong direction.
	+
	+	lori & beau whitehead \\
	+	07/21/19 #25226
	+
	+	I'm sure there are hundreds of cool stories from the Gorge Week, but since I was only there for a a couple days, I'll tell just one that kind of exemplifies the sport: At the race start, after the mens surf ski wave went by, the organizers let the OC1 men head down to the staging area, as we got a half mile down river I saw a surfski paddler in the water trying to remount. He'd obviously went in at the start and had been trying to remount this entire time. His group was LONG gone. Now keep in mind we are all chomping at the bit to get the perfect spot in the start line-up, but I told myself that when I got to him, I'd stop and see if he needed help. But as I got there, another OC1 had sided up to him and was helping to get him remounted. The OC1 guy was Danny Ching, one of the top paddlers in the world. So yeah, one of the best paddlers in the world, helping one of the not-best paddlers in the world, 5 minutes before race start. That was cool.
	+
	+	Mind-blowing international field, over 70 from Hawaii alone. Canada, NZ, France, Brazil, Tahiti, Spain, Hong Kong and everywhere else in between.
	+
	+	Between Canadian Champs, Gorge 6-man & Gorge Champs, Bellingham paddlers brought home a truck-load of medals and podium spots.
	+
	+	For those of you on Facebook, a guy named Tom Gomes posted a ton of great race day shots, including great shots from his drone. Search his name and you'll find him.
	+
	+	[[https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10219885014619625&type=3\|Tom Gomes Gorge Champs 2019]]
	+
	+	paul clement \\
	+	07/21/19 #25227
	+
	+	I hadn’t been in the water all that long… 😮
	+

talk story Gorge 21

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:04 +0000

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		+	**Re: Gorge memories\\
		+	David Hooper**
		+
		+	Sep 6 #30052
		+
		+	So, I'm not quite as quick as Beau at editing videos (this only took a month or so to finally pull together), but here's a bit from race day at the Gorge, at least from my perspective in the middle of the pack. Note several cameo appearances by Whatcom paddlers.
		+
		+	https://youtu.be/VyjHvxXgst0

Gorge Champs 2022

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Gorge Champs 2023

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		+	Results: [[https://pacificmultisports.com/results/gorgedownwindchamps2023/\|https://pacificmultisports.com/results/gorgedownwindchamps2023/]]
		+
		+	First Liar \\
		+	beau whitehead Jul 15 #34133
		+
		+	What a week. I went Friday and did the 6-man race with my crew on Saturday... best wind/waves conditions in recent memory for that race. Waves almost all the way from Drano to Bingen for the mens race.
		+
		+	Good wind every day (especially Sunday/Monday) with a gradual decline as the week went on. Thursday was race day, and the wind was fun for the first 3 miles. And then it died. There were small runners here and there if you were lucky enough to find them and had the energy left to catch them.
		+
		+	I can only speak to the mens OC1 race; 243 of us lined up (that was pure chaos). I ended up in a good spot, lined up behind all the Kai Wa'a pros, and probably had the best start I've ever had there. Probably went out way too hard, but surfing those initial bumps with some top paddlers was too much fun. The doldrums lived up to their name, hot, flat and endless. With 5 miles to go, I was out of water, and mental fortitude. (It's bad if you stop sweating right?) I ended up 59th out of 243, 7th in age group. Collin Smith absolutely went into beast mode and ended up 35th overall and 4th in his division with the top 3 being pros. The small army of Tahitians, Hawaiians and other pros dominated the top 20 OC spots.
		+
		+	But my true highlights of the week were:\\
		+	1) seeing some of Peters ashes spread on his favorite downwind run\\
		+	2) surfing through a very large Swell City with Collin who had his 9 year old daughter in seat one of his double (that was incredible) If you are on FB, check out his videos, it will put a smile on your face\\
		+	3) doing my first 12 mile Celilo to Rufus run on a very big day. That is a very surreal place to paddle (I actually felt more exposed there than in the channel from Maui to Molokai)
		+
		+	Slept in my truck for 7 days, ate way too much pub food, got way too much sun, hung out with the best people I know.... A great Gorge Week!
		+
		+	paul clement Jul 15 #34134
		+
		+	Sounds like it was a great week Beau! A lot of boxes checked. That’s how it’s done. \\
		+	pc
		+
		+	Kimberly Reeves Jul 15 #34135
		+
		+	Seems like you crushed a week of Gorge fun! Good on ya!

Gorge Practice 2018

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:04 +0000

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	+
	+	**Gorge week after action report (trip one month before race)\\
	+	Reivers Dustin** \\
	+	06/30/18 #23325
	+
	+	Important notice from the Sturgeon General: the gorge is for paddlers who are comfortable on big waves. This is not a place to learn how to handle chop.
	+
	+	Report: We mostly did two-a-day. Usually Bob's Beach to Home Valley was one, then Viento to Hood River the other. Never disappointed with any runs. Even Home Valley run was plenty chunky. On our first run (home valley) several of us strapped on our skinny boats. It was nice, but near my limit for skinny. I think Dmow strapped his skinny on again for a run, but mostly we all shifted to phat boats. I like my S1-X for most stuff, but don't think I have the right power-to-weight ratio for the big time.\\
	+	Duncan and Bob did most driving. I don't think we had to drop a set-car. for most runs there is quite a bit of driving for a good paddle, so the shuttle driver saves a ton of time and wet seats. I forgot that bridge of the gods toll is now $2.00. We were joined for one run by Peter M's old S1-X (owned and operated by local Larry Goodson). John R. came down for a couple days of howl. Gwen came down for one run and done. I noticed she had weeks of dust on her boat. There aint none now. The run she did with us was the pick of the litter. Thursday wind ranged from 35 to 40 as we put in at Viento and paddled like duckies to Hood River. Predictions were not big. Standing in Viento park seemed calm. First clue was Dean and Mark coming back from the beach saying, "Two man Carry". I've never paddled water like that before. I had seen it big in Swell City, but those were more chaotic. Larry had mentioned that when wind speed averages over 28mph, it is a breakpoint for wave character. These waves were visually intimidating, but if you had the heart to power up, they were crazy rideable. I would sometimes bury the bow in chop, but not in the big rollers. The wave speed was such that I could maintain velocity. I was feeling "fleet", but then I hear Gwen behind me yell, "Beep,beep: on your left" as she rips past like road runner. I mentioned before about John R, and Micheal M. doing side-surf on their V-8. That's a big wave and some great riding. Bob McB paddled his Aries OC-1 in that run and I could see the wind flipping the light weight boat around. John and Michael scouted out the inside passage of Wells Island and found good rides in there. There's also a lot of dead heads and barely visible pilings. I noticed where there's a shallow sand bar to the West of Wells, the big waves were foaming up. It was a wall of white water you could see from a long way off. At the end of the big Thursday run we're all standing around DK jumping from foot to foot asking him, "How big was THAT?… On a scale of one to ten?" Of course we want to hear him say "13". He had that wry little smile he gets and said "Oh, maybe eight". Then like a dad watching little kids excited over some new thing he smiles some more and lets us talk him up to eight and a half. I'll just tell you guys right here, it was a big day for little reivers. whooo haaww! If Carter gets a day like that on Race Day, he'll be picking up body parts all over the river.
	+
	+	Our last run on Friday was Drano to White Salmon. Everyone was a little ragged by then. We were treated to the view of a barge coming at us through Swell City. I couldn't tell what it was for a long time. I just saw large mass of breaking waves that mostly hid the barge. Most of us were mid-river, but I had seen Michael on the Washington side and wondered if he knew his future. I put my feet in to watch the show. He hugged Washington and later said he was looking for paint scrapings on the rocks to see how close the barge usually got. It turned out ok, but he got some fiddly bits where the monster bow waves and later stern waves played with the running swell. I think he likes the V-8 pro.
	+
	+	One of our days we checked out Carter's paddle-ranch. Like a lot of stuff he does, it's ambitious. Really looks good. Some great crash pads, gathering spots, well planned accommodations.
	+
	+	At the end of Friday's run we all crawled up the rocks at White Salmon and mostly headed East to avoid the Friday afternoon I-5 shuffle. Duncan did some kind of juke move to get onto Hwy 2 and avoid I-405. I did ok on 405, but got jammed on I-5 at Everette. We can't be sure which run North is best. Except Duncan schemed us to all meet at "Big Miner's Drive-In" in Yakima. That was a hoot. Really epic proportions. Afterwards I got about an hour down the road and had to pull over and lay out. Boom: out go my lights for some unknown period of time.
	+
	+	Kirk stayed down with a newer B'ham paddler - I've blanked on his name. They were getting good stuff, but it's good they paired up. We were lucky to have DK on over watch on our own runs.
	+
	+	Refer to the "sturgeon general's warning above".
	+
	+	rd
	+
	+	**Re: Gorge week after action report\\
	+	David Scherrer** \\
	+	07/01/18 #23328\\
	+	Edited 07/01/18
	+
	+	Every time I go to the Gorge with this crew, I say to myself, Donald, you should stop drinking so much rum, tequila, wine and beer! Thank goodness I'm not Donald…….\\
	+	D.
	+
	+	**Practice Runs Race Week\\
	+	Reivers Dustin** \\
	+	07/17/18 #23471
	+
	+	woah. This whole thing is a giant extravaganza. Sunday we just got our butts down here. The I-5 part sucked. several serious accidents (complete with mashed up cars and dazed people walking around in the median). Quite a few OC paddlers gathering up their bits and pieces from the prior days events. The cabin next to me a couple neat OC paddlers stayed an extra day to stage out more comfortably. We are still seeing some hard core OC paddlers ripping up the river.
	+
	+	Monday kicked off with a run from Draino to Hatcher. River looked quiet and forecast not promising much. But the Duncan magic hit. We just caught a spike in wind that was perfect for that run. Put boats and paddlers back on the road and noticed the river was laying back down. Sweet. We had a full-on wolf pack for this ride with DJ and Josh and a few other wayfaring strangers. One minor hit: Wilson lost rudder traction and had to pull off and wait for us to come back for him. DJ was all over it and got him to a good pull-out, so all ended well. We all recovered, then did a surprisingly good home valley run.
	+
	+	Tuesday today and supposed to be flat again. I'm seeing good runners for a Home Valley run already (8:30am). Another good sign, I hear the guys up chatting over coffee already. Rumor is that wind will peak on Thursday. It was really hot the last few days and I hear that kills the wind. But it's cooling off and we just grab whatever we can.
	+
	+	rd
	+
	+	Wilson Reavley \\
	+	07/17/18 #23472
	+
	+	That wasn't me with rudder prob - who?
	+
	+	Jonas Ecker \\
	+	07/17/18 #23473
	+
	+	That would be me… 😬
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	07/18/18 #23474
	+
	+	Too much going to tell. Some excellent clinics. John talked to LB and me about his ride behind Oscar in a double. It was fascinating to hear those two compare between LB behind Carter. John was clearly still processing the sensory overload. There's a level of wave riding that just is some magic line to cross.
	+
	+	Also theres a few out here that fall into the class of "seemed like a good idea at the time". There will be some feedback for this class tomorrow. Sounds like Thursday will be race day. Forecast is for BIG.
	+
	+	Barnacles are going easy today. One run from Viento to finish. There's a meal gioing on at event center, but not sure we'll do that. We checked first half yesterday for best lines, and will see what looks good from Viento in today. Most of our effort today will be arguing about how much wind. Got our own weather going on.
	+
	+	rd
	+

Gorge Champs 2022

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:04 +0000

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	+	**Best way for an OC1 or 2 to help a surfski paddler in distress?\\
	+	Susan DeBari **07/17/22 #32041
	+
	+	When Julie and I were paddling at the Gorge on a very windy afternoon (Wednesday) we came up to a gal on a surfski who had dumped. Another OC2 was helping her, so we stood back and waited as backup. One of the OC pair was in the water helping stabilize her boat as she got back in. She started paddling down the river, and we got the thumbs up from the rescuing OC2 as they paddled away. But she looked wobbly, and then fell in again. And I realized that I don't really have a rescue plan for someone else. I was not going to go in the water to stabilize her boat. And the only way I can lean in my OC2 is Ama-side which doesn't do any good because I wouldn't be able to reach to stabilize her boat. We passed by her, and another surfski came in to help and they seemed like they knew what they were doing.
	+
	+	In retrospect I think I could have gone downwind of her, and offered the ama to help stabilize her while she tried to remount. But then I heard a story that one of you Whatcom paddlers once said "don't touch my ama" during a crisis situation.\\
	+	Towing her on the back of the OC2 for the last mile or two before a landing spot was not an option as I think that would have put Julie and I in danger (big waves and wind).
	+
	+	So I'd like to hear opinions from OC paddlers - what would you do in that situation? Have you been in a helper position? What worked? What didn't?
	+
	+	Sue\\
	+	\\
	+	Reivers Dustin 07/18/22 #32052
	+
	+	Intelligent question. A surfskier in trouble is really a challenge. I've had best results holding the nose of the surfski ("T-rescue) while the paddler gets back in. But that will only work if the paddler in trouble can manage themselves pretty well. And it takes a lot of strength to hold the surfski. I had to lock the nose with my elbow around the boat and use both hands. This was with a paddle leash so it's been quite a long time ago. And this means I'm leaning over so far that I'm feet out, legs wrapped on my boat and using the loose boat for floatation. Our Deep-Cove buddies have some awesome video of this method.
	+
	+	I can't imagine this working well for any OC boat. Doing any rescue with boats lined up alongside makes both vulnerable - higher skill levels required by all.
	+
	+	Often I've been able to talk to the paddler in trouble enough so that they work themselves back in shape. Most common problem is rushing the re-entry. People get tired and flustered and lose large muscle skills.
	+
	+	At this stage I'm not sure I have the skill to actually physically help anyone. I was a stout young laddy last time I did any of that stuff. I give you high credit for being very cautious. There are usually some high achievers around that can do more than myself.
	+
	+	rd
	+
	+	Kimberly Reeves 07/18/22 #32054
	+
	+	I’ve tucked the bow of the surfski under my front i’ako and then tried to steady the ski…but not in Gorge waves…you get tossed around too much.\\
	+	On Tuesday we came upon a paddler that couldn’tremount in his ski. Of course he said he was okay…he wasn’t. I tried to get the double close to him, but it wasn’t gonna work. Finally I said to him that maybe he needed to swim to shore… he was maybe 100m from Bob’s. He finally remounted but according to Hilburn, the guy swam a few more times that day.
	+

Gorge SIC 2021

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	+	**Gorge report\\
	+	Denise Weeks**
	+
	+	Aug 18 #29875 \\
	+	Sorry that the smoke and dull winds kept some of you from going down last week. We were lucky to be able to shift our dates back a bit and got to participate the SIC Gorge race and then had some good wind and clean air Sun/Mon/Tues. There still might be some left if you can get down there!
	+
	+	Here's a bit of what we had to play with . . . Paul and Wilson have their own stories to tell.\\
	+	https://youtu.be/Vue1YfgkD7k
	+
	+	David Scherrer
	+
	+	Aug 19 #29880 \\
	+	Lakes? Or where was the actual race
	+
	+	Denise Weeks
	+
	+	Aug 19 #29881 \\
	+	The SIC race was a Viento to Hood River park downwind run.
	+
	+	There are a ton of great photos here: \\
	+	https://www.facebook.com/pg/PaddleChallenge/photos/?tab=album&album_id=4969267539766986&ref=page_internal
	+
	+	And results here. \\
	+	https://paddleguru.com/races/SICGorgePaddleChallenge2021/results
	+
	+	You can see that surfski and OC paddlers were a tiny minority of the racers.
	+
	+	John Rybczyk
	+
	+	Aug 19 #29882 \\
	+	Hmmmm, it appears that there were many, many categories and even two different courses...however...if I'm reading it all correctly then, well done Denise, you were the first woman surf skier across the line! Also, if I'm reading the results correctly, it appears that the fasted paddlers, by far, were the foiling SUP racers. Is that correct?
	+
	+	Denise Weeks
	+
	+	Aug 19 #29883 \\
	+	Yes, a lot to keep track of. There was a downwind race on Saturday and then course races on Sunday. We who sit only did the downwind races.
	+
	+	The fastest WING foiling downwind racer came in at 25 minutes, in half the time it took the fastest surfski paddler (Wilson). They clearly need a longer course to make it worth their while!
	+
	+	Paul Reavley
	+
	+	Aug 19 #29889 \\
	+	I think that Denise is underselling our downwind runs after the Saturday race. The air quality was so-so on Sunday and we were apparently kind of wiped out so we only did one Drano run on Sunday. But the wind, air quality and temperature were all looking good for Monday and particularly good for Tuesday. We did a morning Drano run Monday then drove east for a Celilo to Rufus run (13-14 miles) in the afternoon. The Celilo run was really good, particularly the big rollers on the Washington side of Miller Island. The one moment of concern for Denise and me was a bit of confusion about which way an approaching barge was headed.
	+
	+	But the prize run was our 14 mile downwinder on Tuesday from Mosier (Rock Creek Beach put in) to the Taylor Lake take out just below The Dalles. Wilson said it was the most filled in he had seen that stretch. There could be some bumpiness and multi direction stuff at a bend and/or narrowing but for the most part it was just miles and miles of excellent surfable waves.
	+
	+	[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR5CwLxxjVM\|Mosier 8 17 2021 Video]] at the take out the wind made 2 person boat carries to the car mandatory.
	+
	+	The trickiest part of the run for me was a brief section here: [[https://vimeo.com/589580022\|Mosier Cross Waves]] (short clip) where I briefly started to paddle more like I was in an OC - on just one side.
	+
	+	Paul Reavley
	+
	+	Aug 20 #29890 \\
	+	Sorry - the second link should work now - [[https://vimeo.com/589580022\|Mosier Cross Waves]]
	+
	+	beau whitehead
	+
	+	Aug 20 #29891 \\
	+	The wing foil times are impressive, but they should be being they are propelled by the wind.... Even more impressive is the SUP foilers who only have a paddle and no wing/sail. A 43 minute Viento run is legit.
	+

Gorge Downwind Videos

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GPS

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	ActiveLook and Meta glasses are supposed to be able to sync with some Garmin devices. Make sure that Garmin Connect IQ has a data field to support the glasses you are interested in. Open the Connect IQ app on your smartphone and search for the specific data field required by your HUD glasses (e.g., "ActiveLook" or "Meta AI")		ActiveLook and Meta glasses are supposed to be able to sync with some Garmin devices. Make sure that Garmin Connect IQ has a data field to support the glasses you are interested in. Open the Connect IQ app on your smartphone and search for the specific data field required by your HUD glasses (e.g., "ActiveLook" or "Meta AI")

GPS Phone Apps

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:05 +0000

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	+
	+	**GPS died\\
	+	Reivers Dustin** \\
	+	07/09/18 #23381
	+
	+	I'm interested in just using my iPhone for GPS. All I care about is real time speed. And maybe miles traveled. Don't need max speed, ave speed, heart rate, etc. I can't reach the phone when it's mounted, so this has got to be a set and forget thing. It's possible that the whole idea won't work because of battery useage on a run.
	+
	+	My garmins have all died. All my ex's live in Texas. Somebody shot my paddle. \\
	+	rd
	+
	+	David Hooper \\
	+	07/09/18 #23382
	+
	+	Reivers,
	+
	+	I use the SportsTracker app on my phone. It shows the real-time speed, if you’ve got a way to mount it so you can see it. It also gives the other data (miles traveled, avg speed, etc.) for the end of the run. There are both Android and iPhone versions. And it’s free.
	+
	+	Dave H.
	+
	+	Duncan Howat
	+
	+	07/09/18 #23383
	+
	+	RD ON garmins web site, you look around for customer service, and you can send it in, telling them whats wrong, but they usually send you a new one back for not much cost,unless you send em your cheap watch pretending that you use it as a GPS in which case they may not send a GPS back. However I've done this several times with broken, abused units. Also Bob Mc has the phone Number to call. I lost it. As far as knowing your speed, as fast as you are now, I'm not sure I-phones etc can read that high so don't worry about it. Just stay along side of me and I'll give you read outs. Especialy sat. D
	+
	+	Dean Bumstead
	+
	+	07/09/18 #23385
	+
	+	Use whatever Dennis M. uses. His max speed is always two to three mph above everybody else’s.\\
	+	\\
	+	njcooksey@ymail.com \\
	+	07/09/18 #23391
	+
	+	Strava works well on the phone.\\
	+	Or there a rowing app called crew nerd that Greg Barton uses which has a big display.
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin
	+
	+	07/10/18 #23396
	+
	+	I love the look of "crewnerd". even my weak eyesight could see what my velocity is with numbers that big. I can't wear glasses while paddling.
	+
	+	I hate the idea of using cellphone GPS 1) sucks battery, especially where cell coverage is poor* 2) crappy GPS lock and update.
	+
	+	The trick shot here is to buy an avionics quality external GPS from Dual Electronics (XGPS160) which you then Bluetooth to your phone. You stick this little gizmo on your boat (in a waterproof). Then you stick your phone in a lifebox and Velcro that to your boat's dashboard. The Dual Electronics updates at 10 readings per second so could probably provide stroke rate resolution quality of readings.
	+
	+	*at weak cell tower signal most cellphones boost transmit power (without asking you) and totally vampire your battery. They also use cell tower signal to cheat up on location. So if you do external GPS might wanna turn off cell connect or do some other power conservation on your phone.
	+
	+	Disclaimer: I just want speed, distance paddled, maybe elapsed time. Don't want bells and whiskers. Sooo, I am not going to do this at all. Just gonna contact Garmin and see about getting repairs. boring reivers.
	+
	+	waterbornewarrior \\
	+	07/10/18 #23397
	+
	+	Not sure if it’s been mentioned, but speed, distance, time. Boom. Also, currently “sold out.” (And pricey when sold in…)
	+
	+	https://www.velocitek.com/products/makai
	+
	+	Don
	+
	+	John Rybczyk
	+
	+	07/10/18 #23398
	+
	+	There's this: https://www.velocitek.com/pages/makai. Huge numbers, just the basics, no bells or whiskers. It's designed to be mounted on an SUP, so the display has to be large to be seen standing up. I've been thinking about buying one for these old eyes, but it ain't cheap.
	+
	+	Karl Krueger used it for his Race to Alaska on an SUP last year.
	+
	+	John Rybczyk
	+
	+	Dale McKinnon
	+
	+	07/11/18 #23400
	+
	+	Just a headzup about cellphones and GPS. You do not need cell coverage in order to use the GPS function on your cellphone: https://www.cnet.com/news/can-dataless-smartphones-still-use-gps-navigation-apps/
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin
	+
	+	07/11/18 #23401
	+
	+	true. In fact I have an iPod Touch. This has GPS chip, WiFi chip, but no cellphone chip. I used it for years with early TalkaTone and WhatsApp (before Facebook bought WhatsApp). I just poached wifi.
	+
	+	I'm pretty sure GPS antennae and internal resolution would make for cheesy low speed accuracy, but proly works pretty good for speeds over 20mph.
	+
	+	rd
	+

The Grand Ducky of Fenwick (The Duchy of Grand Fenwick) Surfski

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5/17 Thurs barnacle (and whale) run

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	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	05/17/18 #22994
	+
	+	Three of us did the run to whisky rock in perfect time to miss the nice runners that we kept seeing out there. But I did get to see a whale. Kind of a little one heading south between Post Point and Post Point Buoy. Fortunately Dmow also saw the beastie so it wasn't just something special in the margarita I had the night before. uh, wait up. Dmow was sitting across from me at El Reconsider and put something in my drink-e-poo. In fact Duncan was there too and was just talking about all the psilly-psyben 'shrooms on his place.
	+
	+	naw. These wonderful fellas wouldn't mess around like that would they?
	+
	+	Somebody tell me there's a visiting whale in B'ham Bay.
	+
	+	rd
	+
	+	allipp@... \\
	+	05/17/18 #22995
	+
	+	Why do you guys do that to yourselves? Paddle upwind for five miles so that you can turn around and get nothing coming back.
	+
	+	My modus operandi is to paddle upwind for 5 minutes, then turn around and surf.
	+
	+	Dennis Mowry \\
	+	05/17/18 #22996
	+
	+	Today, Thurs, was a good paddle.\\
	+	Intervals on Monday\\
	+	Waves on Tuesday\\
	+	Sprint race on Wedsday\\
	+	Today, Thursday, Longer paddle with the guys, milking whatever waves there were, making the most of them. Whale watching, seeing a eagle eating a Blue Heron, fighting of the gulls. Felt like a good workout. 10+ miles.
	+
	+	Probably take Friday off unless there is wind.\\
	+	Paddle Saturday on whatever conditions present themselves.\\
	+	Sunday?? Sprint boat practice?
	+
	+	As the bumper sticker on Randy Olsen's truck says "A day on the water is a day added to your life"
	+
	+	See you on the water,\\
	+	Waves or no waves,\\
	+	:D'
	+
	+	Charlie Brown
	+
	+	05/18/18 #23002
	+
	+	I saw gray whale(s) on Wednesday morning about half way between Governors Point and Wildcat Cove. It seemed like there might be two, with spouts coming in slightly different locations about 2-4 minutes apart. I captured a very grainy video which, when examined carefully, looks like a spout followed by a back, then immediately followed by a larger back without a spout. There were no dorsal fins, so I conclude it was grays. My wife heard about it from neighbors who saw them in Chuckanut Bay in the morning, so my wife and I put our sea kayaks in at Wildcat Cove and paddled north. When we paused to look at an eagle, we heard a blow behind us and watched from a generous distance for about 30 minutes. This morning the neighbors said they watched them close in at Chuckanut Bay again yesterday evening. Reivers, no need to question your sanity.\\
	+	Charlie
	+

Winds and Waves of the Great Lakes

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Greece Surfski

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-	* <del>[[https://www.surfskigreece.com/\|Surfski Greece]]</del> security warnings? (try the facebook page to communicate) - Rentals, Trips - Fenn, NK ([[https://www.facebook.com/surfski.greece\|facebook]])	+	* [[http://surfskigreece.se/\|Surfski Greece]] Aegina Island Rentals, (Trips?) - Fenn ([[https://www.facebook.com/surfski.greece\|facebook]])
	* [[https://www.athenswatersports.gr/kayak-rentals/\|Athens Watersport Club]] - there is a proficiency requirement for surfski rentals		* [[https://www.athenswatersports.gr/kayak-rentals/\|Athens Watersport Club]] - there is a proficiency requirement for surfski rentals
	* …		* …

Get a Grip

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:05 +0000

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	+
	+	Nicholas Cryder \\
	+	Jan 15 #28400
	+
	+	Starting up some tutorial videos on tips, tricks and techniques for paddlers. First installment is here, just in time to augment your lazy Friday plans... but TRIGGER WARNING FOR PADDLE SLOTHS & SLOBS: you may wind up with a pre-Saturday project for your paddle set-up!
	+
	+	https://youtu.be/EZVF3pMReuc
	+
	+	--\\
	+	Nicholas Cryder
	+
	+	David Scherrer
	+
	+	Jan 15 #28401
	+
	+	Just for kicks, have you tried gorilla tape? Im surprised how durable it is and still "grippy".
	+
	+	Nicholas Cryder \\
	+	Jan 15 #28404
	+
	+	I have, and the glue sheds when it gets hot. Big mess.
	+
	+	--
	+
	+	Nicholas Cryder
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger \\
	+	Jan 15 #28407
	+
	+	I use bicycle handle bar tape and it usually last 2 years.
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger
	+
	+	David Scherrer
	+
	+	Jan 15 #28408
	+
	+	Strange, the gorilla black duct style tape I'm using has been on over 2 yrs and is still working great.
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	Jan 16 #28409
	+
	+	When you look at paddlers hands, they show callus different from each other. One old story is about a guy who would grab your hands and look for the callus there at the inside base of your thumb. That would tell how much you paddled. But I've never developed the big lump there like some. I don't like anything on the shaft. Sometimes get a blister on the palm side of my fingers, but that is nothing. The only downside is when I get some oil or Vaseline or something on my hands. That sucks.
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger \\
	+	Jan 16 #28420
	+
	+	I’ve worn thin paddling gloves (like bike gloves) for 30 years and don’t get blisters or calluses. Still have the thumb horn though.
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger
	+

group paddle stuff

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:06 +0000

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	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	07/04/18 #23346
	+
	+	More chat here about safe group paddles.
	+
	+	I keep learning. That Thurs run in the gorge showed me water that I think ruled out any surfski or OC assist value (at least mid-river). Putting two little boats near each other in that sea-state was a sure way to break a lot of stuff quickly. On the other hand, there is value in having a witness to someone in jeopardy. We used to joke about "it's a river … you can't get lost". Uh, well there's some rough spots with no way you can walk out. There are some nice spots to tuck out of the wind, but at least on the Oregon side, it's like the hiway rest stop that is just far enough away that you'll have to poop your pants before you get there.
	+
	+	So. Couple things. 1) Safety in numbers? can be an illusion. You see all these guys going over the cliff. you tend to think, "how bad can it be?". 2) Surfski as a rescue boat? might not be that good. Really depends on the operators. One huge joker in the deck is when one person has anxiety. A big component of water rescue is handling the strength and un-reasonableness of another person.
	+
	+	Whatcompaddlers been going for what, 15 years now? These discussions have been pounded on. Years ago a bunch of us practiced two on a single paddling. There is excellent video of rescue methods on Deep Cove site. My own favorite is T-rescue where I sit in my cockpit and lock the nose of the unstable boat with both arms while the other paddler gets settled (requires me paddle leash). Regards the "lemming factor" I have no answer. Except maybe LB's idea of pairing up. For some years now LG and I have had very close skill level. Whenever we paddled it seemed like so easy to know where the other guy was. LG has had a rough year and with the blown hip, not sure where that is now. When I try to pair up with other folks, it usually ends up in divorce papers. I must say that when I've given up my fun and stayed "on watch" for someone it is difficult.
	+
	+	Here is where I kinda have to show some of my ass. I've found myself maybe sometimes resentful because I've paddled "drag", (last guy on watch). So, you know, people are nice and I'm nice and yadda yadda. If I'm always out there hanging back being the mommy, talking about people can get their eye poked out, … am I type-casting myself? Or worse, sending a message that it's safe?
	+
	+	From the movie "Dinosaurs":\\
	+	"not the mamma, not the mamma, not the mamma".
	+
	+	rd
	+
	+	Paul Reavley \\
	+	07/06/18 #23360
	+
	+	Speaking of Gorge rescues and deep cove videos - this has probably been posted here before...
	+
	+	https://www.deepcovekayak.com/deep-cove/rescue-at-the-gorge/
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	07/06/18 #23363
	+
	+	That's a great write up. Bob's experience and his reasoning lines up with what I've noticed. I heard a term thrown around by some of the really good paddlers: "window shading". It seems that the problem of rushing the remount is so common they have a slang term for it. Remounting, even in flat, is a huge energy burn. The heart rate and breathing is through the roof. If you miss more than a couple of remounts, you'll have nothing in the tank for more effort.
	+
	+	It's also true that putting a dismounted paddler on the back of a surfski works pretty well. But note Bob's comment about the behavior of the person on back. I've had the guy in back jump right up behind me like it was a bicycle built for two. Very hard to manage and communicate things. I consider it last resort, reserved for someone I really really like. none of you guys qualify.
	+
	+	rd
	+
	+	Duncan Howat \\
	+	07/06/18 #23369
	+
	+	would Stormy Daniels qualify, with a name like that?
	+
	+	David Scherrer
	+
	+	07/06/18 #23370
	+
	+	Stormy Daniels, yup definitely, most definitely.....
	+
	+	Nicholas Cryder \\
	+	07/06/18 #23373
	+
	+	I once helped a paddler who broke her leash on a big Viento run, and after grabbing her ski I got out of my ski and laid accross the back of both skis with my legs in the water (face upwind, legs downwind) as a sea anchor so she could catch up to her ski. Once she got back in I stayed put for a few minutes so we could rig her leash and get her collected. We turned the rafted skis downwind, I let my leash take my ski and held her boat for a second to get her powered up. Then I remounted my ski and we were good for the rest of the run.
	+
	+	Our sport is tough because physical strength comes on much faster then skill, and we don’t know what we don’t know. So your strength can write checks your skill can’t cash... and once you bounce that check there’s no going back. The odds of ski assist rescue are super thin, and it’s a big mistake to rely on that as an insurance policy. It takes someone with tremendous skill to do it, or the advantage of a very stable ski to ad margin. So looking back at my own close calls when I first started paddling, the days I’m proud of are the days I sat out.
	+
	+	In terms of how to paddle group downwinders, it’s give and take for me. There are days when I just need to rock out to my own jams. And there are days when I need to give back and do runs where the entire focus is the other paddler because they asked me too. I usually paddle a V8 pro on those days, and try to surf one wave behind said friends. If you don’t ask someone to specifically look out for you, they aren’t. There were people who did that for me when I first started out and they made the sport better for me (and much much safer).
	+
	+	Cryder
	+

Group Texting

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		+
		+	* [[:stories:mixing_iphones_others_3_02_2017\|Mixing iPhones with Non iPhones 3/02/2017]]
		+	* [[:more_group_texting_7_04_2018\|Group Texting Apps 7/04/2018]]

Guadeloupe Surfski

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	* Also [[https://www.facebook.com/watermenkarukera/?ref=settings\|Watermen Karukera (facebook)]] organizes the race		* Also [[https://www.facebook.com/watermenkarukera/?ref=settings\|Watermen Karukera (facebook)]] organizes the race
		+	* [[https://surfski.info/latest-news/story/1622/ze-race-50km-downwind-in-guadaloupe.html\|Surfski.info R. Mousley Description of Race 1/16/2018]]
	* [[https://www.facebook.com/KarukeraKayakChallenge\|Karukera Kayak Challenge Facebook]]		* [[https://www.facebook.com/KarukeraKayakChallenge\|Karukera Kayak Challenge Facebook]]

Guam Surfski

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-	Wikipedia: "Guam ([[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/English\|/ˈɡwɑːm/]] <sup>[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:En-us-Guam.ogg\|ⓘ]]</sup> //[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Pronunciation_respelling_key\|GWAHM//]]//; [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamorro_language\|Chamorro]]: //Guåhan// [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Chamorro\|[ˈɡʷɑhɑn]]]) is an island that is an [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territories_of_the_United_States\|organized, unincorporated territory of the United States]] in the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronesia\|Micronesia]] subregion of the western [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Ocean\|Pacific Ocean]].<sup>[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guam#cite_note-oia-4\|[4]]]</sup> <sup>[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guam#cite_note-5\|[5]]]</sup> Guam's capital is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagåtña,_Guam\|Hagåtña]], and the most populous village is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dededo\|Dededo]]. It is the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extreme_points_of_the_United_States#Westernmost_points\|westernmost point]] and territory of the United States, as measured from the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic_center_of_the_United_States\|geographic center of the U.S.]] with [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Udall_(Guam)\|point Udall]]. In [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceania\|Oceania]], Guam is the largest and southernmost of the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_Islands\|Mariana Islands]] and the largest island in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronesia\|Micronesia]]. In 2022, its population was 168,801...."	+	Wikipedia: "Guam... is an island that is an [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territories_of_the_United_States\|organized, unincorporated territory of the United States]] in the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronesia\|Micronesia]] subregion of the western [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Ocean\|Pacific Ocean]]... Guam's capital is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagåtña,_Guam\|Hagåtña]], and the most populous village is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dededo\|Dededo]]. It is the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extreme_points_of_the_United_States#Westernmost_points\|westernmost point]] and territory of the United States, as measured from the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic_center_of_the_United_States\|geographic center of the U.S.]] ... In [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceania\|Oceania]], Guam is the largest and southernmost of the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_Islands\|Mariana Islands]] and the largest island in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronesia\|Micronesia]]. In 2022, its population was 168,801…."

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When sailors turn rescuers - a 'second chance' for kayaker

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Numbness in Hands

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	+	[[https://www.facebook.com/share/p/161CL1f5PY/\|Downwind Surfski & Paddleboard original discussion]]
	+
	+	Gabriel Newton \\
	+	Anyone out there dealt with numbness in the hands while paddling? I've tried a couple of physical therapy approaches without success. Any tips appreciated!
	+
	+	John M. Rybczyk \\
	+	I've had issues in the past. The only thing that worked for me was the Theraband flex bar and a little less paddling. Do you have any associated pain in the elbow?
	+
	+	Alan Lipp \\
	+	John M. Rybczyk I associate it with a pain somewhere else! 🤣
	+
	+	Gabriel Newton \\
	+	Author\\
	+	No elbow pain here\\
	+	\\
	+	Sam Alexander \\
	+	My right hand goes numb. All I can do is stretch out my wrist and forearm when it happens. Not sure how to keep it from happening
	+
	+	Liquid Surf and Sail \\
	+	\\
	+	Maybe your grip is too tight? Are you opening up the pushing (top) hand on each stroke?
	+
	+	Joe White \\
	+	I did. Then I started wearing a light duty wrist brace to help with blood circulation. It solved my problem
	+
	+	Gabriel Newton \\
	+	Author\\
	+	Joe White Can you share which one?\\
	+	\\
	+	Gilad Erel \\
	+	Practice in releasing the grip of both hands and of the opposite hand specifically. Hard at the beginning, but absolutely necessary, and it will also improve your blade anchoring.
	+
	+	Alan Lipp \\
	+	Aloha Gabe, I have been dealing with this for years. You may want to try going down to a lower feather angle, which seemed to help me, though I still do get a bit of numbness on occasion. I also bought an [[https://www.ihepaddles.com/\|Ihe paddle]] for my outrigger which has a different wrist angle at the hold point. That helped too, but again numbness still kicks in occasionally.
	+
	+	Jaromir Slama \\
	+	Depends on what fingers are affected. Thumb, index, middle and half of ring finger = median nerve. Wrist flexion increases pressure in the carpal tunnel where the median nerve runs. Keeping the wrist in neutral may help. A wrist brace may be a good idea - apparently it helped Joe White.
	+
	+	Yves Cartier \\
	+	Jaromir Slama Excellent. Wrist splint at night that keeps that joint in neutral may help . A nerve conductive test may indicate how severe is the condition and if you need surgery . Carpal tunnel release is an effective way to address this problem . Please consult a motivated and competent hand surgeon .
	+
	+	Gabriel Newton \\
	+	Author\\
	+	Jaromir Slama Those are exactly the ones!\\
	+	\\
	+	Mateusz Jasiński \\
	+	I had this problem, usually during sprints and in more difficult conditions on the water, when I tighten my grip on the paddle. It helped me to matte the paddle shaft in the place of the grip, with 2500-3000 grit sandpaper. It helped right away.
	+
	+	Kay Tea \\
	+	Mine do, I have shoulder/neck problems and the nerves can get aggravated on a long paddle. Been working with a chiro to help the underlying nerve impingements
	+
	+	Steve Fisher \\
	+	Definitely Carpal tunnel, I ended up having two operations to release. Main cause was large blades at long lengths for sprint kayaking.\\
	+	Go smaller blade shorter lengths and therapy best of luck 🤞
	+
	+	Kerry Wilson \\
	+	Lighter grip on the paddle, make sure you have all 4 fingers engaged, try a slightly thicker shaft, on exit make sure you are rotating your forearm and not the wrist, flex fingers on the top hand.
	+
	+	James Anderson \\
	+	My hands used to "lock up" since my earliest memory of paddling as a 10 year old.\\
	+	I have moved to an oval shaft and it only happens now when I don't relax my grip. Maybe its a related problem?
	+
	+	Nick Valentine \\
	+	Jim Walker had a top tip: to ease your grip imagine the paddle is an over-ripe banana. Works for me
	+
	+	Erik Borgnes \\
	+	Hi Gabe. Might also want to try an Epic small diameter shaft. It feels really odd at first but it should allow your wrist to relax more and still have all the shaft control you need. It’s all I use now.
	+
	+	Scott Cummins \\
	+	Erik Borgnes are you back paddling again?🤗\\
	+	\\
	+	Jason Crisp \\
	+	Open your top hand as much as you can.
	+
	+	LaRayne Kayfes \\
	+	Carpal tunnel! Try EMS Red Light therapy pads. I got mine from Amazon, under $40. Good for whatever aches. Builds muscle. Check out Mayo CIinic review.
	+
	+	Nick Hindley \\
	+	Reduce blade angle
	+
	+	Jason Larkin \\
	+	I have, for me it was tight forearm muscles, now that I keep them stretched I get no acheness in wrists or hands which always was there before numbness happened. I do way too many miles
	+
	+	Dean Sorley \\
	+	A while ago I changed feather angle to about 10 degrees. Found this helped maintain a better wrist angle on the exit.\\
	+	Small blade size and I use a Meek paddle (Aussie brand, think Jantex is similar) which has a much more forward part of the stroke feel to it and comes out of the water way more easily than the Epic paddles. If I go back to my Epic mid it feels like it’s a big effort to get it out of the water in comparison.\\
	+	Have you had someone look at your technique to see if there might be an issue there?\\
	+	I paddle a lot, maybe 50% sea kayak and have used a Greenland paddle for about 12 months. Incredibly gentle on your body but I don’t get will the same top speed, and have to paddle a boat length or so earlier to catch waves at our local kayak surfing spot.

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Water in my Sport V10/Adding a Hatch

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-	Gerardo Andaluz\\	+	Gerardo Andaluz \\
	02/13/11 #10074		02/13/11 #10074

Hawaii, HI - the Big Island Surfski

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		+	----
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		+	===== Wildlife =====
		+
		+	* [[:wild_life#hawaiian_islands\|Hawaiian Islands]]
		+	* ...

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Hawaii Videos

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HUD gear (heads up)

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:07 +0000

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	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	12/07/17 #22307
	+
	+	two eye glasses mounted garmin Heads Up Display just came to my attention. I'm interested because it's a bugger to mount stuff where I can do anything with it and sometimes just have reliable view. The Varia vision is targeting the bicycle rider and their set up. For example there is an option to get radar notice of vehicle approach from the rear. I might need this for future races with Duncan or other faster paddlers.
	+
	+	One is Nautix:\\
	+	https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/549875\\
	+	video review (more of a sales pitch):\\
	+	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBdkS5NvH24\\
	+	\\
	+	Here is Varia vision review: \\
	+	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfB6k6E4v6s
	+
	+	Just thought I would get this out there before Christmas, just in case somebody really likes me.
	+
	+	rd
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	12/07/17 #22308
	+
	+	well poop. the nautix device only pairs with the larger ship-board garmin base units.
	+
	+	just never mind.
	+
	+	rd
	+
	+	Nicholas Cryder <nicholas.cryder@...> \\
	+	12/07/17 #22309
	+
	+	Reivers, fear not. When I was 12 years old I invented a mirror that is hidden within the inside of the face of the sunglass lens; allowing an athlete to view competitors from behind without them knowing (for cyclists, big deal at the time). I have a few extra prototypes in my arsenal, happy to share*. As for anyone else unlucky enough to find themselves behind me in a race, yup - I am watching you.
	+
	+	Cryder
	+
	+	*for a price, of course
	+
	+	njcooksey@ymail.com \\
	+	12/08/17 #22315
	+
	+	They are both is rated unsuitable for swimming, which rules out most the surfski paddlers I know.
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	12/08/17 #22317
	+
	+	thx Nick. Didn't think to check that. Regards music, seems like many of you paddlers march to the beat of a different tuba anyways. No headphones for me. I'm trying to tune in to whatever radio waves you guys got goin on.
	+
	+	rd
	+

Healing Chafing and Abrasion

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-	*	+	* If you have a skin condition probably test on an area first.
-		+	* If you have sensitive skin you can soak the tape in oil to remove it.
-	If you have a skin condition probably test on an area first.	+
-		+
-	*	+
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-	If you have sensitive skin you can soak the tape in oil to remove it.	+

	I use it:		I use it:

Diet

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	* [[https://www.amazon.com/Meat-Athlete-Cookbook-Plant-Based-Workouts_and/dp/1615192662/ref=sr_1_1?crid=AT5PUDFJME9H&dchild=1&keywords=no+meat+athlete+cookbook&qid=1607298385&sprefix=no+meat+,aps,244&sr=8-1\|No Meat Athlete Cookbook]] Matt Frazier		* [[https://www.amazon.com/Meat-Athlete-Cookbook-Plant-Based-Workouts_and/dp/1615192662/ref=sr_1_1?crid=AT5PUDFJME9H&dchild=1&keywords=no+meat+athlete+cookbook&qid=1607298385&sprefix=no+meat+,aps,244&sr=8-1\|No Meat Athlete Cookbook]] Matt Frazier
-	* {{:diet:wfpb_sports_nutrition_resources.pdf\|Whole-Food Plant-Based Sports Nutrition Resources}} - Websites, Books, Movies	+	* [[:whole_food_resources\|Whole-Food Plant-Based Sports Nutrition Resources]] - Websites, Books, Movies

	===== Racing/Training Liquids & Fuel =====		===== Racing/Training Liquids & Fuel =====

henning_hansen

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hitvslsd

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Netherlands Surfski

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-	* [[https://boei3.nl/index_en.php\|Boei³ race series]] (website and races seems to be going again in 2024) - surfski race series held on every 3rd friday of the month (we guess during the warmer months primarily?)	+	* [[https://boei3.nl/index_en.php\|Boei³ race series]] surfski race series held on every 3rd friday of the month (June, July, August)
-	* [[https://www.facebook.com/Bollenboys\|Bollenboys Dutch Coast Race (facebook)]] - last run in 2018, was run again in 2022	+	* [[https://www.facebook.com/Bollenboys\|Bollenboys Dutch Coast Race (facebook)]]
		+	* [[https://bollenboys.nl/\|Bollen Boys Kayak Club]]
	* Waddenzee Downwind Race - ([[https://www.facebook.com/dutchcoastrace.nl/\|Dutch Coast Race]] facebook) [[https://youtu.be/6NLjM0qJGsM\|last run in 2019]]		* Waddenzee Downwind Race - ([[https://www.facebook.com/dutchcoastrace.nl/\|Dutch Coast Race]] facebook) [[https://youtu.be/6NLjM0qJGsM\|last run in 2019]]
	* …		* …
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		+	* [[https://bollenboys.nl/\|Bollen Boys Kayak Club]]
	* [[https://rb.reddingsbrigade.nl/\|ReddingsBrigade]] surf lifesaving		* [[https://rb.reddingsbrigade.nl/\|ReddingsBrigade]] surf lifesaving
	* [[https://www.facebook.com/SurfskiHollandBattle/\|Surfski Holland]] (facebook) focus on Castricum Aan Zee Race?		* [[https://www.facebook.com/SurfskiHollandBattle/\|Surfski Holland]] (facebook) focus on Castricum Aan Zee Race?

The Sport

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The Sport

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	* Jean-Yves Cheutin (French, Russian National Coach)- [[https://youtu.be/unOxWjK-gEs\|Ideal Arc for a Competitive Paddling Career]] (we don't necessarily endorse all views expressed, but some are quite interesting, much of this is directed toward coaches)		* Jean-Yves Cheutin (French, Russian National Coach)- [[https://youtu.be/unOxWjK-gEs\|Ideal Arc for a Competitive Paddling Career]] (we don't necessarily endorse all views expressed, but some are quite interesting, much of this is directed toward coaches)
	* [[:training_for_races#masters_athletes_training_plans\|Masters Age Training]]		* [[:training_for_races#masters_athletes_training_plans\|Masters Age Training]]
-	* [[:aging\|Getting Older]]	+	* [[health:age:aging\|Getting Older]]

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Bainbridge Island Marathon 2014

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:08 +0000

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	+
	+	**The three Bainbridge tough guys 2014\\
	+	Steve Scoggins** \\
	+	09/06/14 #16238
	+
	+	A big shout out to Kristian Tollefson, Kevin Olney and Jeff Maloney. These three were bold enough to do the long course at Bainbridge today, and they did it well. I opted for the short course with Ted, and we were rewarded with about 10 miles of upwind and against the current paddling....not my best idea.
	+
	+	It'd be great if we could get more whatcom paddlers to show up for this one. I know it's a tough one to pull, either getting up early, or camping, not to mention the ferry dollars, but it's a pretty fun low key event with homemade bread and jelly.
	+
	+	Steve
	+
	+	MARC ROBERTA WHITLOCK \\
	+	09/06/14 #16239
	+
	+	Not selling it, Steve :) All those negatives for bread and jelly?
	+
	+	Steve Scoggins \\
	+	09/06/14 #16240
	+
	+	It's pretty good jelly.
	+
	+	Steve
	+
	+	Nicholas Cryder
	+
	+	09/06/14 #16241
	+
	+	You forgot ribbons. Ribbons for everyone!
	+
	+	debbie natelson
	+
	+	09/06/14 #16243
	+
	+	Yep "bread and jelly" not quite doing it justice, Steve. :) There was after all, really yummy homemade chowder and incredible mushroom soup that Race Director, Steve Bennett made as well. The things we do for food.
	+
	+	But re: the race itself, Steve S, so glad you, Kevin, Christian, and Ted made it down for the race (and Jeff coming up). Nice to finally meet you in person, Steve. Congrats to all. I'm always surprised that more of the Bham crew don't come down for this race, as it really is one of the premier open water races -- and quintessential PNW experiences -- especially on a day like today with Mt Rainier looming large (better view from my backward facing rowers perspective) and the parade of ferry boats, sailboats, yachts, etc, etc. Though it was a grueling slog up the east side of the island, due to the north wind and a big almost full moon driven 12' tide, which started surging against us half marathoners right at the start, the constant waves (unfortunately, quartering off my starboard bow unless I headed deeper into the channel) and constant boat traffic were really good practice. As it was an upwind, up-current battle for about 12 miles, not sure if I would have been better off in the ski or my rowing shell -- but it was a great race.
	+
	+	I also had the honor of doing most of the race with Dean Williams Sr's daughter and grandson, who together did the race in their late Dads honor in a dugout canoe -- as was Deans' tradition. Dean, Jr did the full marathon in Shane Baker's OC1. They all came down from Chillawac, BC to do the race and honor their dad/granddad. Watching Dean's daughter and her young teenage son handle their dugout -- through the tumultuous waters was really a sight to behold. I somehow felt Deans presence smiling down on his family. (and they really kept me on my toes and very focused on staying ahead of them, but in sight, as I did not want to be out in the middle of Puget Sound by myself. (Ted and Steve were way ahead and rest of short coursers much farther back).
	+
	+	So, Whatcompaddlers, please do consider doing the Bainbridge Marathon or half-marathon next year (and years to come). Like Steve S said, I think you'll find it well worth the gas, long drive, and ferry fare -- and Faye Bainbridge Park is a nice place to camp if you come down Friday night. Joost has often done this race and should vouch for its merit. Joost, we missed you today.
	+
	+	See you all next weekend,\\
	+	Debbie
	+
	+	paul clement \\
	+	09/06/14 #16244
	+
	+	A great race. If memory serves, Dean killed it.
	+
	+	debbie natelson
	+
	+	09/06/14 #16245
	+
	+	And speaking of Dean, even Dean Bumstead made a guest appearance, as he and his family were on Bainbridge for his sons sailing regatta. He didn't have time to do the official course, but of course, brought his ski and said he got some good rides in.
	+
	+	A gorgeous place to spend a stunning Sept day.
	+
	+	Ted Scherrer \\
	+	09/07/14 #16250
	+
	+	I'd be worth going down to sample Steve's amazing mushroom soup - well I was really hungry after that slog......thank you Steve Bennett for putting that on, it was really enjoyable.
	+
	+	Maybe we should think about a Sound Rowers cookbook?\\
	+	Ted
	+

Hong Kong Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sat, 21 Mar 2026 18:48:55 +0000

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	* [[https://www.youtube.com/@hongkongdragonrun/videos\|Mox Dragon Run Videos]]		* [[https://www.youtube.com/@hongkongdragonrun/videos\|Mox Dragon Run Videos]]
		+	* [[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuykg4We5c_ALqSZkwT9zjEFo_ktLaRoS\|Surfski TV Asia Youtube Playlist]]
	* …		* …

Hood River, OR (Columbia River Gorge)

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Fri, 23 Jan 2026 17:34:24 +0000

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	* Epic - Epic has important parts of its operation based nearby in Washington state. Also Kenny Howell (kenny.howell@epickayaks.com) may bring surfskis up from California for Gorge Champs rentals or demos at other times. Jimi Spoto (see below) is the local Epic dealer and may have Epics to demo/buy.		* Epic - Epic has important parts of its operation based nearby in Washington state. Also Kenny Howell (kenny.howell@epickayaks.com) may bring surfskis up from California for Gorge Champs rentals or demos at other times. Jimi Spoto (see below) is the local Epic dealer and may have Epics to demo/buy.
	* Outrigger Zone - Jimi Spoto Can advise on boats, equipment, repair options, demos and keep an eye out for used boats for sale. Large OC & surfski sales/distributor for Pacific Northwest, located in Carson, WA.		* Outrigger Zone - Jimi Spoto Can advise on boats, equipment, repair options, demos and keep an eye out for used boats for sale. Large OC & surfski sales/distributor for Pacific Northwest, located in Carson, WA.
-	* [[https://www.outriggerzone.com/dealers/ozonenorthwest/\|Ozone Northwest – Waterwalker]] OCs/Surfskis	+	* [[https://www.outriggerzone.com/dealers/ozonenorthwest/\|Ozone Northwest]] OCs/Surfskis
	* Epic, Kai Wa'a Surfskis		* Epic, Kai Wa'a Surfskis
	* Phone: office: (949) 633 9496		* Phone: office: (949) 633 9496

Hood River to the Dalles

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-	07/04/16 #19625	+	07/04/16 #19625

-	If you always wished swell city and the hatchery lasted for a couple of hours, try out the HR to the Dalles run. Especially if the clouds are in and it's not blowing yet in the western gorge. We did it yesterday in 25-30 wind and it was all time the most big surfing of any gorge run I've done.the big sections were as nice as swell city. On a good day but lasted many times longer. It's just under 18 miles and all but a few minutes were great conditions. There a couple of narrows which get a bit challenging for us mortals. I also borrowed Don's Think ion with one of his big rudders for the weekend and put just under 40 miles on it in two days and that boat surfs amazing. If only it had a wee bit more width in the foot well for me.	+	If you always wished swell city and the hatchery lasted for a couple of hours, try out the HR to the Dalles run. Especially if the clouds are in and it's not blowing yet in the western gorge. We did it yesterday in 25-30 wind and it was all time the most big surfing of any gorge run I've done. The big sections were as nice as Swell City on a good day but lasted many times longer. It's just under 18 miles and all but a few minutes were great conditions. There a couple of narrows which get a bit challenging for us mortals. I also borrowed Don's Think Ion with one of his big rudders for the weekend and put just under 40 miles on it in two days and that boat surfs amazing. If only it had a wee bit more width in the footwell for me.

Hooded Nudibranchs

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:09 +0000

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	+
	+	**And now for something unrelated to eye diseases.\\
	+	John Rybczyk** \\
	+	05/23/19 #24920
	+
	+	Out on the bay today I noted many, many Hooded Nudibranchs swimming around. Have you seen them? If you are familiar with regular looking nudibranchs (which a tide-pool favorite), these look nothing like that. Instead, they would more likely be confused with a jellyfish. Anyway, for some reason, there are thousands (10's of thousands, millions?) in the bay right now, wiggling around like the translucent little blobs that they are. They don't sting and are harmless unless you are a zooplankton of some sort. Luckily, Huki sells a nudibranchless rudder (in five sizes), all of which I own, so I'll be fine for the Sea to Ski. I don't think Don K. makes such a rudder as of this writing, so good luck to you folks with Fenns, Thinks and Epics as you slog your way through them.
	+
	+	See you on the water,
	+
	+	johnr
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	05/23/19 #24921
	+
	+	This is our John. some sports have their 'who let the dogs out'. movie goers have 'dances with wolves'. But we've got "swims with nudibranchs'.
	+
	+	paul clement \\
	+	05/23/19 #24922
	+
	+	This is very bad news. Consequently, I have decided to not use a rudder. My ski will be lighter too.\\
	+	pc
	+
	+	David Scherrer
	+
	+	05/24/19 #24924
	+
	+	We don’t need no stinking rudder...
	+

My wetsuit options/combos

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		+	[[:bellingham\|Bellingham, WA Page]]

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hot_5_2017_tally

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Hot 5 Race Schedule

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	+	===== Hot 5 Race Schedule =====
	+
	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	07/29/18 #23565
	+
	+	Every Thursday evening in August I’ll be hosting a series of fun and competitive races. Mostly aimed at surfski, OC and SUP but any human powered craft are welcome. We will be taking registrations at 5:00 pm. Race meeting will be at 5:45 and we will try to begin by 6:00. Categories will be determined by number of entries and based on boat class and age divisions.
	+
	+	Week 1: Intro\\
	+	Location: Marine Park\\
	+	3.5 mile course (hopefully with downwind section). Bonus points available for “capturing the whale”
	+
	+	Week 2: Sprints\\
	+	Location: Lake Padden Swim Beach\\
	+	1000 Meter and 500 Meter sprints by boat class and age division
	+
	+	Week 3: Swim\\
	+	Location: Marine Park\\
	+	3.5 mile course with 2 mandatory remounts at designated locations. Bonus points available for open water swim finish (less than 100’)
	+
	+	Week 4: Team Boats\\
	+	Location: Cornwall Beach (Glass Beach)\\
	+	4.5 mile course. Doubles, triples, 4s and 6s earn extra points.
	+
	+	Week 5: Finale\\
	+	Location: Marine Park\\
	+	6 Mile course from MP around Chuckanut Island and back.
	+
	+	Each race will contribute to a total point score for the series. There will be cool prizes for winners weekly and at the end of the series. I understand how busy everyone is this time of year so the series totals will be the best 4 of 5 races.
	+
	+	I’ll explain more on scoring and course details over the next few days.\\
	+	I just want to say a huge “Thank You!” to our sponsors:
	+
	+	DJ / Ocean Paddlesports\\
	+	Paul Clement / Elastic Laser\\
	+	Nicholas Cryder / Faster Farther\\
	+	Brandon Nelson Partners
	+
	+	Hope to see you on the water!\\
	+	Kevin Olney
	+

Hot 5 Finale

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:09 +0000

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	+	===== Hot 5 Finale =====
	+
	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	08/29/18 #23724
	+
	+	Season Finale for the Hot 5!
	+
	+	It’s been an exciting series. Thanks to everyone who has participated and especially those who have helped with registration, timing, food, etc. it will conclude Thursday. Everyone who races in the finale will get +5 points towards their series total!
	+
	+	The course will be from Wildcat Cove to Marine Park. This will (hopefully) be a downwind race. Meet at Marine Park at 5:00 to register and shuttles will be provided to the start. Shuttles will leave promptly at 5:45
	+
	+	Leashes and PFDs are MANDATORY!!
	+
	+	After the race there will be an awards ceremony dinner at Fat Pie Pizza in Fairhaven. We have space on the 2nd floor balcony reserved. We’ve got a pile of prizes to hand out so make sure to attend. There is gear from Ocean Paddlesports, Brandon Nelson Partners, Faster Farther, Chuckanut Brewery and more! Also get your awesome awards from Paul Clement’s Elastic Laser.
	+
	+	I am looking for one or two folks to help out on the safety boats. Let me know if you can lend a hand. Thanks,
	+
	+	KO
	+
	+	David Hooper \\
	+	08/29/18 #23726
	+
	+	Looking forward to it, and hoping the wind comes up at least a bit like today. One request: can you get more of that unexploded ordinance to take care of some of the weed patches out there? Just be careful - I saw a boy with a tiger and some monkeys on one of them.
	+
	+	Dave H.
	+
	+	Duncan Howat
	+
	+	08/30/18 #23727
	+
	+	Ahh but the weeds add another element into the plotting and planning. Do you use your little tiny weed rudder and risk no control and broaching every 3 rd wave, but getting through natures surfskiiers frustraters, or stay with the clam digger and risk letting your buddy blow by when your dragging the bay with you. However, this makes for a un questioned excuse for lack of blinding speed. Looks like we could see 10 or a little more on the wind at this point. Kevin are you still holding to each paddlers best 4 races? So I think to be fair thats a good deal as the top 3 or so in the standings are only there because they just showed up, you know, cause their not very fast compared to the rest of us. Wait, maybe thats not entirely true about them being very fast. See you at MP with trailer 4:45 hopefully ready to do damage to the old guys.. Big Wave
	+
	+	David Hooper \\
	+	08/30/18 #23728
	+
	+	I think Duncan's weed/rudder strategizing will have interesting interactions with strategizing about how to handle all the fishing boats steaming determinedly south about the time we're paddling determinedly north, right around the Wall. Do you play chicken with the weed patch, the fishing boat, or the Wall? How likely do you think it is that any of them will alter course for you?
	+
	+	Dave H.
	+
	+	Kevin Olney
	+
	+	08/30/18 #23731
	+
	+	It was a great finale! I’ll detail the event and post results tomorrow but I just want to check if anyone ended up with my Ski to Sea sweatshirt after dinner. If you thought it was an award I’m happy to trade for another item. It’s the purple one from a few years back
	+
	+	KO
	+
	+	Toby Cooper
	+
	+	08/31/18 #23732
	+
	+	I was privileged to meet, up-close-and-personal, a giant weed mat the size of a parking lot. No way to avoid it. Stopped me cold. But I found it eerily peaceful in the middle of it, almost comforting – a sudden sanctuary in an otherwise wide and tumultuous ocean. Perhaps we could name them, these larger ones; plant flags and claim them as possessions of Whatcom Paddlers and then file with Notices to Mariners.
	+
	+	Toby
	+
	+	joanandthom
	+
	+	08/31/18 #23733
	+
	+	I would like to thank Keven, Amber, and their crew for putting on the Great Hot 5 paddling series. It was a Blast. I am already starting my training for next year.\\
	+	Thom P
	+
	+	allipp@… \\
	+	08/31/18 #23734
	+
	+	If only yesterday was like today!
	+
	+	John Rybczyk \\
	+	08/31/18 #23736
	+
	+	Yeah, turns out that a nine-inch surfing rudder was not such a good idea last night, but it's the only rudder I have for the Huki-R presently. I was so traumatized after the race that I went home after the awards party and immediately ordered a 4 inch weedless from Huki. Everyone knows I love the my Huki, but I've never been impressed with their "weedless" rudder technology. It seems like those Epic weedless rudders with the big weed guard in front were doing the trick last night. Folks also seemed to be grooving on the Kiesling weedless rudders. Thanks Kevin for a very fun series.
	+
	+	See you on the water,
	+
	+	johnr\\
	+	\\
	+	David Hooper \\
	+	08/31/18 #23737
	+
	+	John,\\
	+	My similar trauma from last year's Hot 5 Finale is what motivated my small weedless rudder purchase, too! And I'm guessing Sue is on the same trajectory for her OC-1 after last night. We can thank Kevin not only for a super-fun, creative, mix-it-up race series, but also for some quality "learnable moments".
	+
	+	Dave H.
	+
	+	Paul Reavley \\
	+	09/01/18 #23748
	+
	+	Kevin,
	+
	+	Thanks and great job! You did such a good job, in fact, what about a Frozen 5? (or 3?) to keep us motivated through the winter?
	+
	+	Too soon?
	+
	+	(Hot drinks at the finishes?)
	+
	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	09/02/18 #23749
	+
	+	Winter series is a possibility…
	+
	+	Jonas Ecker
	+
	+	09/02/18 #23750
	+
	+	I think thy would have at least one more constant competitor… given sprint is on break…
	+
	+	MARC ROBERTA WHITLOCK
	+
	+	09/03/18 #23751
	+
	+	Just don't have a remount-swim race….
	+
	+	but the summer series is becoming a paddling highlight. Thanks, Kevin
	+
	+	Marc
	+
	+	**Hot 5 Season Wrap\\
	+	Kevin Olney** \\
	+	08/31/18 #23738
	+
	+	It was a memorable scene at Marine Park last evening. A group of around 20 cyclists completed their ride from Portland and commenced to celebrate right about the time 30-some paddlers showed up to shuttle for the downwind race. The old folks and dog walkers seemed bewildered by the park takeover.
	+
	+	Race conditions were favorable, though underwhelming wind-wise. Still, the sun was out and everyone kept their nose pointed downhill for the most part. Nicholas Cryder put a hurtin’ on the field and finished the Wildcat run in a blazing 37 minutes. Heather Nelson surged on an inside line to claim second place just ahead of Tom Swetish. Alan Lipp heard “downwind race” and showed up to clock a solid 4th place finish in his Nelo ski while Peter Marcus rounded out the top 5.
	+
	+	There were appearances by Gwen Howat and her friend Ellen in a double ski, as well as the classic duo of Brian Boatman and Mike Lee in OC-2. Julie VanDooren claimed the top spot in the OC-1 field and Dean Bumstead bested his rivals in the 65+ division. It should be noted that Dean paddled from Marine Park to the start at Larabee before the race just to get some extra miles in.
	+
	+	The awards party was raucous and fun. The overall winner of the 2018 Hot 5 Race Series was… drumroll… Heather Nelson!!! Besides being just a superb paddler, Heather embodies the spirit of the series: excited to race in any conditions, willing to step outside her comfort zone and just having FUN! Rising star Wilson Reavley was second in the overall standings and the top men’s finisher. Thanks to Paul Clement, our top men’s and women’s champions were awarded awesome lighted medals.
	+
	+	I want to thank everyone who participated in the series (52 racers!) and our sponsors who stacked the prize table and all of the volunteers who donated their time and effort to building a great racing community. If you want to get some new gear or boat, or need some top-notch engraving or maybe a new house, or just a pint of pilsner these are your guys right here:
	+
	+	DJ/OceanPaddlesports
	+
	+	Brandon Nelson Partners
	+
	+	Paul Clement/Elastic Laser
	+
	+	Nicholas Cryder/Faster Farther
	+
	+	Chuckanut Brewery
	+
	+	If anyone has input on new challenges for next year I’m open to suggestions. As for this year, the results may not be accurate but they are official.
	+
	+	Happy Paddling,
	+
	+	KO
	+
	+	allipp@… \\
	+	09/01/18 #23739
	+
	+	Thanks Kevin for putting on a great series. For clarification, my new ski is a Carbonology Vault.
	+
	+	Dennis Mowry \\
	+	09/01/18 #23740
	+
	+	Great races Kevin and all.
	+
	+	One awards division which was missing in the last race was the 70+ division. Especially since there were at least 3 in the category, Duncan, Bob Mc B and Tom P, maybe a few more.
	+
	+	:D'Mow
	+
	+	Denise Weeks
	+
	+	09/01/18 #23741
	+
	+	Thanks Kevin and everyone who helped put this together. It was a great learning experience for me and super fun. Thanks, everyone, for being so welcoming to new paddlers.
	+
	+	Ideas for next year . . .\\
	+	Hot 10?\\
	+	Some kind of team relay, but all on water\\
	+	Fashion night\\
	+	More doubles events (thanks John!)\\
	+	More orcas!
	+
	+	Toby Cooper \\
	+	09/01/18 #23744
	+
	+	Thank you Kevin and team for the super summer series. It is about a 10 hour deal and a $50 ferry to make the round trip from Orcas, but it’s a no-brainer because I so-look forward to hanging with great and friendly paddle-phreaks and the well-organized event. All the more amazing that KO still has time to go out and win his own 70 mile races.
	+
	+	Toby
	+

Hot 5 Race 1 2017

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:10 +0000

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	+	===== Hot 5 Race 1 2017 =====
	+
	+	**Hot 5 Standings\\
	+	Kevin Olney** \\
	+	08/06/18 #23613
	+
	+	Here are the standings after Week 1:
	+
	+	The scoring system is:\\
	+	1st Place: number of boats in division +1\\
	+	2nd Place: # of boats -1\\
	+	3rd Place: # of boats -2\\
	+	4th Place: # of boats -3\\
	+	...continuing for all boats in division
	+
	+	I tried to keep the divisions by age group to around 5 boats while keeping rivalries intact.
	+
	+	Each person in a team boat recieves an individual score.
	+
	+	Mike Lee and Brian B. scored 5 bonus points by capturing successfuly capturing the orca and bringing her across the finish line.
	+
	+	Here is Week 1 by Division:
	+
	+	Here is the finalized finishing order (after high-speed video review)
	+

HOT 5 Week 2

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:10 +0000

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	+	===== HOT 5 Week 2 =====
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	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	08/10/18 #23625
	+
	+	Great racing by everyone who participated in the sprints last night!
	+
	+	Wilson came up big, Dennis braved the K-1, Julie paddled surfski, a ton of kids showed up and Jonas was just faster than everybody. I'll send out a more detailed report tomorrow, along with updated Series Standings.
	+
	+	KO
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	08/11/18 #23626
	+
	+	Wow big re-shuffle of usual order of barnacles. Interesting.
	+
	+	Dennis Mowry \\
	+	08/11/18 #23627
	+
	+	Those 1000 meter Sprints were a lot further than I anticipated. Quite the workout, for me any how.
	+
	+	Also thinking how those kids in the first heat are like haft my size as an adult, which would make that Sprint a 2000 meter relatively.\\
	+	Amazing to watch them all in the their sprint boats, besides having so much skill, fun and enthusiasm.
	+
	+	Thanks Kevin and all for putting on such a fun race.
	+
	+	:D' Mowry
	+
	+	Jonas Ecker
	+
	+	08/11/18 #23628
	+
	+	Orange to Orange is about 1100m; within 10m is the really tall branchless tree to lillypad orange...
	+
	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	08/12/18 #23630
	+
	+	Yes, the 1000 meter course may have been a wee bit longer than advertised but that just makes the finish times even more impressive.
	+
	+	Thanks to everyone who raced and donated! Its exciting to see a sport where 8 year olds are competing with 80 year olds. In the 1000m surfski race the top 8 spots were less than 10 seconds apart, and half of those were over 65! Youth dominated the day as Jonas, Elena and Emma/Trisha posted the fastest times overall with Wilson and Ana close behind (Peter was in the mix too but was out-sprinted at the finish).
	+
	+	Thom showed some serious horsepower and beat out Marc, Dennis and Dean for the top spot in the Senior Masters. Maybe we should send him to Nationals next year...
	+
	+	Toby Cooper came all the way from Orcas Island to race and Denise continues to improve in her first year of paddling.
	+
	+	For the Series Points I scored each race as half the normal value then added them together for the weekly total. Heather and Peter are tied for the top spot with Wilson close behind. Only a few points separate the top half of the field and there is lots of racing left in the series so its still wide open. Final scores will be the best 4/5 races. Next week we will be back at Marine Park, enjoying the sunny weather by practicing our remounts. There will also be an optional swim finish for extra points.
	+
	+	I also want to mention that, in addition to Jonas, Elena and Emma, two more Bellingham paddlers will be at the Olympic Hopes Regatta. Sierra and Milan from the Lake Padden Sprint Club will also be headed to Poland next month. Congratulations to all!
	+
	+	KO
	+

HOT 5 Race #3: Swim Fun

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:10 +0000

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	+	===== HOT 5 Race #3: Swim Fun =====
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	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	08/14/18 #23638
	+
	+	Race 3 of 5
	+
	+	The course will be three 1-mile laps out of Marine Park. There will be a mandatory remount between each lap. At the finish there will be an optional swim leg (less than 100’) available for bonus points. Remounts and swim will be close to shore and safety crews will be on hand to provide assistance if necessary. All paddle craft welcome!
	+
	+	Registration at 5:00\\
	+	Race starts at 6:00
	+
	+	$5
	+
	+	**HOT 5 Week 3 Recap\\
	+	Kevin Olney** \\
	+	08/17/18 #23648
	+
	+	I am truly impressed by everyone who raced last night. 15 intrepid paddlers took the plunge, many reaching well outside their comfort zone, to create an entertaining and educational event. You guys are awesome!
	+
	+	While there were gutsy performances all around it was Heather Nelson who won the day. She was fast upwind and down but it was her lightning-quick remounts that separated her from the pack. Peter followed in second place and Wilson continued his strong season with a third place finish.
	+
	+	John Rybczyk made the strategic decision to opt out of the Swim leg (and the 5 bonus points) but was unable to catch the leaders. The swim was slightly longer than advertised, around 200 feet, and I made everyone wear their PFD.
	+
	+	I hope it was a positive experience. I wanted the race to be a reminder of how important a solid remount is and how much more difficult it becomes when you’re tired or the conditions are rough. There wasn’t huge wind but enough that a few folks did some unplanned remount practice. Huge thanks to Mike Hammer and Safety Boat Chris for keeping an eye on everyone!
	+
	+	I also want to thank Amy and Neil for doing all the timing and registration, and thanks to Mike Medler for helping me shepherd boats at the finish.
	+
	+	Next week will be Team Boats. Anyone who races in a team boat (double, triple, 4-man, 6-man, 12-man??) will earn +5 points towards your series total. Start organizing your team and get ready for another week of epic racing!
	+
	+	KO
	+
	+	David Hooper \\
	+	08/17/18 #23649
	+
	+	Thanks for keeping it fun and educational, Kevin! You've effectively convinced me that I never want to have to swim for shore. Not trying to do so quickly, anyhow.
	+
	+	Dave
	+
	+	Duncan Howat
	+
	+	08/17/18 #23650
	+
	+	I'd like to point out to John R that big crime does not pay as in trying to going for the unimaginable glory of the over all win. He misses a 5 point pick up. So Kevin, as I understand it, only your best 4 nights will be totaled for the grand prizes of air fare to Hawaii etc for all age divisions, correct? D
	+
	+	Michael Gregory
	+
	+	08/17/18 #23651
	+
	+	Hey Kevin,
	+
	+	Brilliant idea for the race last eve. Kinda brought home the importance of an efficient remount to us. But, the swim at the end was plain diabolical:(
	+
	+	See you in the water;(
	+
	+	Mike G
	+
	+	John Rybczyk
	+
	+	08/17/18 #23652
	+
	+	It is true, when I saw all those in front of me swimming (and I use that term loosely) to the finish in that 58 degree, eelgrass infested, ship-yard tainted water, I made the decision to go for the win. Alas, Heather, Peter and Wilson were too far ahead and not only did I not win, I didn't even podium. Damn you Sirens of fame and fortune, tempting me with you songs of victory only to be dashed, once again, against the sharp and bitter reefs of defeat.
	+
	+	Fun race though, thanks Kevin et al.,
	+
	+	johnr
	+
	+	Paul Reavley \\
	+	08/17/18 #23653
	+
	+	Echoing others - remounts and swims are worthwhile practice - and thanks to Kevin and everyone who helps.
	+
	+	John - funny post. For some of us at the other end of the pack it is other kinds of sirens that we may be contemplating.
	+
	+	David Hooper \\
	+	08/17/18 #23654
	+
	+	Few people know that John R’s title at WWU is Huki (also spelled “Hookey”) Professor of Environmental Poetry and Abstruse Rumination.
	+
	+	MARC ROBERTA WHITLOCK
	+
	+	08/17/18 #23655
	+
	+	I think Heather needs to give us a clinic on remounts ; she did informally in the race. She was out of the water faster than she got in it...go figure. I was truly impressed as the V-11 is not a stable platform for most.
	+
	+	Marc
	+
	+	surfskilady \\
	+	08/17/18 #23657
	+
	+	That was so fun!!! Marc... happy to do some remount sessions together! Thanks Kevin for reminding us how important strong swimming and efficient remounts are. And PFD’s... I heard a few racers who wished they had those baby leg straps to keep their PFD’s from going over their ears in the swim! Super fun race..: love the variety! Thanks for keeping us on our toes Kevin! See ya next week for doubles week!
	+
	+	Denise Weeks \\
	+	08/18/18 #23659
	+
	+	From my 10-point perch in the middle of the Hot-5 standings, I am reaching out to those above or below me to take me into a team boat! I am available for practice this week. I have demonstrated my remount ability (never mind why I was in the water in the first place :)
	+
	+	Any patient, teacherly types out there who want a partner? I’d be happy to blend into the background of an OC-6, too.
	+

HOT 5 Race #4: Team Boats

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:10 +0000

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	+	===== HOT 5 Race #4: Team Boats =====
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	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	08/20/18 #23676
	+
	+	It’s the penultimate race of the 2018 Hot5! This week week we will race from Cornwall Beach (Glass Beach) and do a 5 mile course based on wind and conditions. The emphasis will be on team competition. Anyone paddling in a boat with more than one paddler will earn +5 points towards their series total.
	+
	+	If you are looking for a partner or have a double with an empty seat please let me know. Let’s try and get everyone teamed up!
	+
	+	There is still plenty of racing left in the series and the prize pool keeps growing. Chuckanut Brewery has graciously donated some sweet gear and Ocean Paddlesports has hooked us up with equipment, hats, shirts and tons of stoke!
	+
	+	Registration is at 5:00\\
	+	Race: 6:00
	+
	+	Afterwards we will fire up the BBQ. Chicken and hot dogs provided. Bring a side if you want.
	+
	+	Only $5 per boat!!
	+
	+	**HOT5 Week 4 Race Report\\
	+	Kevin Olney** \\
	+	08/24/18 #23698
	+
	+	Week 4 Race Report
	+
	+	It was a great evening on the bay. The gentle breeze pushed away the smoke and haze and the sun shone through for the first time in a long time. 10 doubles lined up to race the 5 mile course, along with a few singles and one OC-6.
	+
	+	Cryder and Wilson took an early lead followed by Nelson/Landboe and Ana/Tom Swetish. Not far behind Peter and Eric battled ahead of the 6-man. Next up was a tight pack lead by Thom and Dennis and including John/Denise, Dean/Devon and “Walt”.
	+
	+	Duncan and Bob were dicing it up back and forth with Kim and Julie.
	+
	+	Roger and Paul R went solo and Josh “Awesome Dad” Dyck chauffeured his daughter Hailey around the course, much to her delight.
	+
	+	In the end it was team Go Mammas Go! that showed their stamina and took home the overall win (Heather’s second in as many weeks!). The weeds took their toll on Peter and Eric and they fell behind the OC-6 but still topped their division.
	+
	+	Unfortunately, we had our first timing failure in the series so only the first couple times were recorded. I feel sad and embarrassed. Next year we will hire an out of state company to run everything for $12,000 and they can screw it up. Not really. But we will get a second stop watch.
	+
	+	The finishing order is accurate so the integrity of the points standings is still intact.
	+
	+	We had teriyaki chicken and hot dogs afterwards (thanks Tom H for saving the day on that one) and partied for a while there in the parking lot. The BPD cruised by a couple times but since we weren’t shooting smack or passing out in the bushes they didn’t mind our shenanigans.
	+
	+	I think the biggest takeaway from the evening is that doubles are really fun. You can go faster with your buddy. You can take out your wife/girlfriend/kid/dad even if they don’t have much paddling experience.
	+
	+	Thanks to Tom H, Neil, Peter, Brandon, Chris, Scoggins, Tyler and everybody who showed up to race! I had a lot of fun. I hope you did too!
	+
	+	Next week is the Season Finale. The tentative course will be a lap around Chuckanut Island from Marine Park. However, if the conditions are favorable, we will set up a downwind course with shuttles provided. Stay tuned for updates...
	+
	+	KO
	+

Hot5 Finale

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:10 +0000

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	+	===== Hot5 Finale =====
	+
	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	08/29/19 #25362
	+
	+	Hot5 Race #5
	+
	+	Tonight’s race will conclude the 2019 series. Thanks to everyone who has participated, volunteered and supported each week! Please join us for the season-end awards and prize giveaway at the Cobalt Grill after the race.
	+
	+	The final course will be one lap around Chuckanut (Dot) Island from Marine Park. Currently there is a steady 10 knot S breeze on the bay. The wind will likely decrease by race time but there is uncertainty in the forecast. It could possibly increase to the 12-15 range. Safety gear is required: leash, PFD, sound judgement in boat choice and ability assessment.
	+
	+	There will be an option for 5 bonus points at the finish. Racers will need to successfully dismount and remount from BOTH sides of their boat before they cross the finish line.
	+
	+	Registration: 5:00\\
	+	Race Meeting: 5:45\\
	+	Start: 6:00
	+
	+	Dean Bumstead \\
	+	08/29/19 #25363
	+
	+	Just got through paddling along the wall. If the wind stays as is, you’re definitely going to want your fat boat. Great surfing from the tunnel back.\\
	+	\\
	+	Dean
	+
	+	**Hot5 Season Recap\\
	+	Kevin Olney** \\
	+	09/01/19 #25365
	+
	+	Congratulations to Alan Lipp, 2019 Hot 5 Series Champ. Alan battled weeds and wind in the final race to secure his spot on top of the leaderboard. Big Duncan Howat finished second but actually scored the most points throughout the series (total is best 4/5 races) so he deserves some serious credit. Third place goes to Erica Quam, the top female this year. Look out for Erica next year, she’s moving up fast!
	+
	+	For the second time in 3 seasons Peter Marcus missed an opportunity to claim the title due to work obligations but still held a solid forth place. In only three races, Marc Whitlock racked up enough points to claim fifth overall.
	+
	+	There were many other standout performers like Vaughn, Mike G, Denise and Dave H. to name a few. Also Paul R, Roger, Bob and Dean. Julie made it to every race and Toby traveled from Orcas Island every week to complete! Larry B won his age group every time he raced and the new mixed OC-2 of Mike & Jacqui was on fire.
	+
	+	John Rybczyk provided on the water safety, along with Dean and Jamie. You guys are awesome! Thank you so much. Neil B manned the registration every week and for that I am truly grateful.
	+
	+	Thank you to Brandon Nelson (BNP) and Nicholas Cryder (Faster Farther) for your sponsorship of the event. Your commitment to supporting local races is what keeps the the community going strong.
	+
	+	That’s it for this season folks. I have a whole new plan for next year so keep paddling and practicing those remounts!
	+
	+	Kevin O
	+
	+	Michael Lee \\
	+	09/01/19 #25366
	+
	+	I demand a recount!
	+

Hot 5 2019 Race #1

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:10 +0000

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	+
	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	08/03/19 #25271
	+
	+	\\
	+	The first race of the series featured warm temps and a variable WNW breeze. It was also 4 mile test of weed dodging ability. Wilson shot out to an early lead with Peter and Alan dueling for second place. As the race progressed Alan’s rudder setup and crafty bay knowledge lead him through unscathed and he finished first across the line, followed by Wilson and Peter. Kim and Julie were a solid 4th in their OC-2.
	+
	+	The largest division of the night, the Golden Barnacle (70+) was lead by Duncan Howat. With five entries this division was as big as the Canadian and Gorge Champs combined!
	+
	+	Leading the women was Denise, followed closely by Erica. Since her first time in a ski just this April Erica has shown great affinity and enthusiasm for the sport. Probably all the amazing stuff they are doing down at Prime Sports.
	+
	+	Series points are awarded with this formula:\\
	+	1st place: # in division +1\\
	+	2nd place: # in division -1\\
	+	3rd place: # in division -2\\
	+	4th place: # in division -3\\
	+	…and so on\\
	+	First Place overall receives an additional point because, well, winning
	+
	+	Next week’s race will award additional points for anyone paddling a wide/slow boat:\\
	+	Every inch wider than 20”: +1 pt (max 5)\\
	+	Plastic boat: +1 pt\\
	+	Bring out the Costco tubs!
	+
	+	Here are the Week 1 stats:
	+
	+	{{ :races:hot5_2019_1_1.jpg?direct&535x600 \|hot5_2019_1_1.jpg}}{{ :races:hot5_2019_1_2.jpg?direct&535x565 \|hot5_2019_1_2.jpg}}{{ :races:hot5_2019_1_3.jpg?direct&535x541 }}
	+
	+	allipp@… \\
	+	08/03/19 #25272
	+
	+	For next week, does having an outrigger count as a fat boat? They're legal now in Ski to Sea, and I'm pretty sure if measured from the right edge of the hull to the left edge of the ama, it will qualify for an additional 5 points!
	+

Hot5 Race Tonight - #2

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:11 +0000

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	+
	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	08/08/19 #25311
	+
	+	Race #2 shifts the series into high gear with a downwind course. Wind is just beginning to build and looks to be in the moderate range (10-12 knots) by race time. To keep things fun and simple we will begin at Marine Park and paddle to the start line at the RR tunnel. The course will finish at the small boat dock at Zuanich Park, just inside Squalicum Harbor. Shuttles will be provided back to Fairhaven.
	+
	+	PFDs and leashes are required. Fat boat rules will still apply but modified slightly: +1 point for every inch over 18” (to include -R, Sport, 8 Pro, etc.). Weedless rudders and weed guards are highly recommend. It’s a jungle out there!
	+
	+	Please be ready to get on the water by 5:45 as it will take about 15 minutes to paddle to the start line.
	+
	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	08/08/19 #25315
	+
	+	Here are the preliminary results from tonight’s race. I’ll get a full recap and updates on series standings sometime tomorrow. Great racing everyone! Hope you enjoyed the weather and conditions
	+
	+	{{ :races:hot5_2019_2_1.jpg?direct&600x798 \|hot5_2019_2_1.jpg}}{{ :races:hot5_2019_2_2.jpg?direct&600x610 \|hot5_2019_2_2.jpg}}{{ :races:hot5_2019_2_3.jpg?direct&600x587 \|hot5_2019_2_3.jpg}}
	+
	+	David Hooper
	+
	+	08/10/19 #25324
	+
	+	Sorry to miss the downwinder Th, but I did a small one here from Conary Island to Center Harbor, ~2.5 mi.\\
	+	Fat boat: yes. A Wilderness Systems Sealutions II, plastic sea kayak (16'6" L x 22" W)\\
	+	Photo shows the course out. Course back was straight line from south to north. Finish was in one of the prettier harbors around, even in the fog.
	+
	+	Dave H.
	+
	+	**Hot5 Week 2 Race Report\\
	+	Kevin Olney** \\
	+	08/09/19 #25322
	+
	+	The wind machine was on for this week's race. Conditions were not as big as expected but a steady breeze set up a nice downwind course. Jamie Klein piloted the safety boat last week and showed up on the starting line this week. He managed to hold off the hard-charging Wilson for a close victory. Ana and Alan would have both probably liked a bit more wind but still had solid races and took 3rd and 4th respectively.
	+
	+	Larry B made his series debut and beat a strong field of Legendary Golden Barnacles. Duncan showed he's still a powerhouse with a strong sprint finish. Denise and Erica scored the most bonus points paddling the 22"wide Think Ace. Peter and Bob were in V-8s and there were a bunch of V-8 Pros and V-10 Sports. No one brought a plastic boat...
	+
	+	Huge thanks to John R. for providing safety on the water and to Duncan for the use of his trailer at the finish. I also want to thank Neil for running the registration and Kristian and Amber for timing. This stuff doesn't happen without these awesome volunteers.
	+
	+	Coming up next week is an exciting relay race. It will be random draw but I have a formula to keep teams fairly even. The course will be 9 laps of about 1000 meters with some fun twists and turns.
	+
	+	Great racing everyone, see you next week!
	+
	+	Kevin O
	+
	+	allipp@... \\
	+	08/10/19 #25323
	+
	+	Thanks for putting on, and pulling off, a great race!
	+

Hot5 Race #3

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:11 +0000

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	+
	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	08/15/19 #25335
	+
	+	Tonight’s race will be a relay format. Three person teams will be “randomly” drawn at registration. Any craft is welcome. Teams will complete 9 laps, 3 each member. Two of the 9 laps will be shorter Hot Laps. They can be done at any time except the first and final lap. All members of the team will score the same number of points for the week.
	+
	+	Currently Alan is leading in the standings with Duncan close behind. Denise and Peter sit tied for third.
	+
	+	Registration at 5:00, race meeting at 5:45, race at 6.
	+
	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	08/17/19 #25339 \\
	+	Hot5 Race #3
	+
	+	When I started this series my goal was to design races that were challenging, exciting and fun. I think Thursday’s race accomplished at least 2/3. The modified diamond course (with shifting gybe mark) in relay format plus stiff SSW breeze produced some entertaining results.
	+
	+	Six 3-person teams completed 9 laps of the approximately 1 mile course. Each racer did three laps and 2 of the 9 were shorter “hot laps”. Racing was tight nearly the whole way with lead changes almost every lap from the midway point to the finish. In the end Erica dropped the hammer with a blazing final lap the secure the victory for her team.
	+
	+	For the point series the race was scored like a normal division with each team member receiving the same number of points. Everyone received 1 bonus point for participating in the madness. “Mr. Consistent” Duncan Howat took advantage of Alan’s absence to take over the series lead. Another strong showing by Erica moved her into second place with Denise taking a share of third.
	+
	+	The series title will be based on the best 4 of 5 results. With two more races there is still going to be lots of movement around the leaderboard. Next week’s race is going to be a random bonus. I’ll bring a “wheel of fortune” to Monday Intervals and we will spin it to find out the theme. OC? Doubles?? SUP???
	+

Hot5 Race #4

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:11 +0000

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	+
	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	08/19/19 #25344
	+
	+	Only two races left in the series and the heat is on (cue Eddie Murphy soundtrack).\\
	+	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t803g97F0TE&feature=share
	+
	+	Thursday’s race will be a figure-8 from Marine Park to Cornwall Beach and back, crossing under the Taylor St dock. The bonus points were determined by random draw earlier this evening:\\
	+	Doubles: +1\\
	+	SUP: +2\\
	+	Surfski: +3\\
	+	OC-1: +4\\
	+	Age divisions will still be drawn within boat classes based on the number of entries.
	+
	+	Weather-wise, there should be a strong front coming through on Wednesday but we are looking at sunny skies and light winds by Thursday.
	+
	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	08/23/19 #25354
	+
	+	It was a beautiful night to be on the water. 20 boats raced along the waterfront from Fairhaven to Bellingham. Peter Marcus outlasted the surging Dean Bumstead to take the win. Marc Whitlock was close behind in 3rd place. Alan Lipp lead the charge in the OC-1 group that included Duncan's modified surfski contraption. Larry B paddled like a man half his age and Mike and Jacqui were tearing it up in the OC-2.
	+
	+	Huge thanks to John Rybczyk for shepherding the herd once again. I also want to thank our sponsors: Brandon Nelson Partners, Ocean Paddlesports and Paul Clement's Elastic Laser.
	+
	+	Next week will be the finale if the series. The course will likely be a lap around Chuckanut (Dot) Island unless its blowing, in which case we will arrange a downwinder. The bonus opportunity will be a double remount (head under water, both sides of the boat) within 50 meters of the finish, worth 5 points.
	+
	+	Paul Reavley \\
	+	08/23/19 #25355
	+
	+	If Duncan shows up again with that contraption, can someone at least loan him a single bladed paddle?
	+
	+	allipp@... \\
	+	08/24/19 #25356
	+
	+	Or at least fill his water jug with water!
	+

HR monitors

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:11 +0000

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	Final thought: Greg Redman is doing a KILLER job with his coaching service for average Joes like me, and he’s also coaching a number to top tier pros. Every day I get an email outlining the workouts for that day, and the workouts for tomorrow. The calendar is based on a list of races that I peg as significant (Hellooooo Salmon Roe!!!). It takes the guess work out of what you do every day. Can’t recommend it enough. Email [[http://greg@wavephysio.ca\|greg@...]]		Final thought: Greg Redman is doing a KILLER job with his coaching service for average Joes like me, and he’s also coaching a number to top tier pros. Every day I get an email outlining the workouts for that day, and the workouts for tomorrow. The calendar is based on a list of races that I peg as significant (Hellooooo Salmon Roe!!!). It takes the guess work out of what you do every day. Can’t recommend it enough. Email [[http://greg@wavephysio.ca\|greg@...]]

-	www.wavephysio.ca	+	[[http://wavephysio.ca\|www.wavephysio.ca]]

Repairing leaks in footwell drains:

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:11 +0000

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	always wear protactive goggles and gloves.		always wear protactive goggles and gloves.
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	- Retest for leaks. If leaks, repeat the repair. Note: if the inside of the canoe was not completely dry, nothing you attempt for repair will work.		- Retest for leaks. If leaks, repeat the repair. Note: if the inside of the canoe was not completely dry, nothing you attempt for repair will work.

-	from Huki website - Jude Turczynski	+	from [[https://www.huki.com/index.php?page=Repairing_Footwell_Leaks\|Huki website]] - Jude Turczynski

Testing For Leaks

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:11 +0000

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-	from Huki website - Jude Turczynski	+	from [[https://www.huki.com/index.php?page=Testing_For_Leaks\|Huki website]] - Jude Turczynski

	This may require two people if the first set of tests don't reveal the source of the leak. The most common locations for leaks are the thru-hull rudder tube near the tail of the canoe, the footwell drain holes at the bottom of each well, the iako receiver holes, the sliding seat rod receiver holes, the lock hole in the footwell divider, the rivets holding down the hinges and the cable housing exits through the deck at the cockpit and at the rudder yoke, the ama iako mounts and button holes. There are other locations that will be dealt with later. DO NOT use a vacuum or other pumps to create a vacuum in the hull. This will crush the hull. DO NOT use compressed air or other pumps to create pressure inside the hull. This will explode the hull. The hull can only handle the amount of vacuum or pressure created by human lungs		This may require two people if the first set of tests don't reveal the source of the leak. The most common locations for leaks are the thru-hull rudder tube near the tail of the canoe, the footwell drain holes at the bottom of each well, the iako receiver holes, the sliding seat rod receiver holes, the lock hole in the footwell divider, the rivets holding down the hinges and the cable housing exits through the deck at the cockpit and at the rudder yoke, the ama iako mounts and button holes. There are other locations that will be dealt with later. DO NOT use a vacuum or other pumps to create a vacuum in the hull. This will crush the hull. DO NOT use compressed air or other pumps to create pressure inside the hull. This will explode the hull. The hull can only handle the amount of vacuum or pressure created by human lungs

Repairing leaks in thru-hull rudder shaft (tube)

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:12 +0000

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	- Retest for leaks. If leaks, repeat the repair. Note: if the inside of the canoe was not completely dry, nothing you attempt for repair will work.		- Retest for leaks. If leaks, repeat the repair. Note: if the inside of the canoe was not completely dry, nothing you attempt for repair will work.

-	from Huki website - Jude Turczynski	+	from [[https://www.huki.com/index.php?page=Repairing_Rudder_Leaks\|Huki website page]] - Jude Turczynski

Huki Seat Track Repair

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:12 +0000

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-	==== How to remove seat & seat car from track on Huki Outrigger Canoes: ====	+	==== How to remove seat & seat car from track on Huki Outrigger Canoes: ====

	always wear protactive goggles and gloves.		always wear protactive goggles and gloves.
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-	==== How to re-install seat & seat car onto the track on Huki Outrigger Canoes: ====	+	==== How to re-install seat & seat car onto the track on Huki Outrigger Canoes: ====

	always wear protactive goggles and gloves.		always wear protactive goggles and gloves.
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	- Restring the cord through the loop in the jam-cleat and tie a knot in the end. Your seat is now back on.		- Restring the cord through the loop in the jam-cleat and tie a knot in the end. Your seat is now back on.

-	from Huki website - Jude Turczynski	+	from [[https://www.huki.com/index.php?page=Repairing_Slide_Seat\|Huki website page]] - Jude Turczynski

Hungary Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Wed, 18 Jun 2025 11:22:11 +0000

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-	Hungary is famous for sprint kayak and canoe, so there are many talented paddlers. But it lacks marine coastline that would otherwise probably better promote the popularity of downwinding with surfskis.	+	Hungary is famous for great sprint kayakers and canoers, so there are many talented paddlers. But it lacks marine coastline that would otherwise probably better promote the popularity of downwinding with surfskis.

	<WRAP center round info 95%>\\		<WRAP center round info 95%>\\

ICF Super Cup 2021

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:12 +0000

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-	Jonas EckerAug 21 #29901 \\	+
		+	\\
		+	Jonas Ecker
		+
		+	Aug 21 #29901\\
	Hey All!		Hey All!

	Check out the link below to watch me, Elena Wolgamot, Caitlyn McElroy, and Augustus Cook race in the SF and Finals of the ICF Super Cup 350m tonight!		Check out the link below to watch me, Elena Wolgamot, Caitlyn McElroy, and Augustus Cook race in the SF and Finals of the ICF Super Cup 350m tonight!

-	https://youtu.be/PvDx7mERYAQ	+	[[https://youtu.be/PvDx7mERYAQ\|https://youtu.be/PvDx7mERYAQ]]

	Results/Start-List Here		Results/Start-List Here

-	http://icfsupercup2021.spotfokus.com/index.php?gmt=-5&gmt2=300	+	[[http://icfsupercup2021.spotfokus.com/index.php?gmt=-5&gmt2=300\|http://icfsupercup2021.spotfokus.com/index.php?gmt=-5&gmt2=300]]

	Elena will race at 8:31 CST\\		Elena will race at 8:31 CST\\
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	Thanks for all your support!		Thanks for all your support!

-	Jonas Ecker\\	+	Jonas Ecker
-	(360) 383-6659\\	+
-	jwecker000@...\\	+
-	Reply\\	+
-	Like\\	+
-	More\\	+
-	1 person liked this\\	+
-	Kimberly ReevesAug 21 #29902 \\	+
-	I’m seeing some results, but not finals.... full report, please!	+

-	\\	+	Kimberly Reeves
-	toggle quoted messageShow quoted text\\	+
-	Reply\\	+	Aug 21 #29902\\
-	Like\\	+	I’m seeing some results, but not finals…. full report, please!
-	More\\	+
-	SimonBAug 21 #29903 \\	+	SimonB
-	Let’s just say Jonas beat the Olympic Silver medalist in a heat…….\\	+
-	Reply\\	+	Aug 21 #29903\\
-	Like\\	+	Let’s just say Jonas beat the Olympic Silver medalist in a heat…….
-	More\\	+
-	1 person liked this\\	+	Jonas Ecker
-	Jonas EckerAug 21 #29904 \\	+
		+	Aug 21 #29904\\
	Semi finals just finished, I was 4th in my SF but progress to the B Final.		Semi finals just finished, I was 4th in my SF but progress to the B Final.

-	Jonas Ecker\\	+	Denise Weeks
-	(360) 383-6659\\	+
-	jwecker000@...	+

-	toggle quoted messageShow quoted text\\	+	Aug 21 #29905\\
-	Reply\\	+
-	Like\\	+
-	More\\	+
-	Denise WeeksAug 21 #29905 \\	+
	Great to see you on the big screen, Jonas! What a finish in the B final. Wow.		Great to see you on the big screen, Jonas! What a finish in the B final. Wow.

-	toggle quoted messageShow quoted text\\	+	paul clement
-	Reply\\	+
-	Like\\	+	Aug 22 #29907\\
-	More\\	+	Those were fun races to watch. Brutal distance. Nice job Jonas et al. The portage race was something to see as well.\\
-	paul clementAug 22 #29907 \\	+
-	Those were fun races to watch. Brutal distance. Nice job Jonas et al. The portage race was something to see as well. \\	+
	Good luck today!		Good luck today!

-	ICF Super Cup\\	+	**ICF Super Cup\\
-	Jonas EckerAug 21 #29901 \\	+	Jonas Ecker**
		+
		+	Aug 21 #29901\\
	Hey All!		Hey All!

	Check out the link below to watch me, Elena Wolgamot, Caitlyn McElroy, and Augustus Cook race in the SF and Finals of the ICF Super Cup 350m tonight!		Check out the link below to watch me, Elena Wolgamot, Caitlyn McElroy, and Augustus Cook race in the SF and Finals of the ICF Super Cup 350m tonight!

-	https://youtu.be/PvDx7mERYAQ	+	[[https://youtu.be/PvDx7mERYAQ\|https://youtu.be/PvDx7mERYAQ]]

	Results/Start-List Here		Results/Start-List Here

-	http://icfsupercup2021.spotfokus.com/index.php?gmt=-5&gmt2=300	+	[[http://icfsupercup2021.spotfokus.com/index.php?gmt=-5&gmt2=300\|http://icfsupercup2021.spotfokus.com/index.php?gmt=-5&gmt2=300]]

	Elena will race at 8:31 CST\\		Elena will race at 8:31 CST\\
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	Thanks for all your support!		Thanks for all your support!

-	Jonas Ecker\\	+	Kimberly Reeves
-	(360) 383-6659\\	+
-	jwecker000@...\\	+
-	Reply\\	+
-	Like\\	+
-	More\\	+
-	1 person liked this\\	+
-	Kimberly ReevesAug 21 #29902 \\	+
-	I’m seeing some results, but not finals.... full report, please!	+

-	\\	+	Aug 21 #29902\\
-	toggle quoted messageShow quoted text\\	+	I’m seeing some results, but not finals…. full report, please!
-	Reply\\	+
-	Like\\	+	SimonB
-	More\\	+
-	SimonBAug 21 #29903 \\	+	Aug 21 #29903\\
-	Let’s just say Jonas beat the Olympic Silver medalist in a heat…….\\	+	Let’s just say Jonas beat the Olympic Silver medalist in a heat…….
-	Reply\\	+
-	Like\\	+	Jonas Ecker
-	More\\	+
-	1 person liked this\\	+	Aug 21 #29904\\
-	Jonas EckerAug 21 #29904 \\	+
	Semi finals just finished, I was 4th in my SF but progress to the B Final.		Semi finals just finished, I was 4th in my SF but progress to the B Final.

-	Jonas Ecker\\	+	Denise Weeks
-	(360) 383-6659\\	+
-	jwecker000@...	+

-	toggle quoted messageShow quoted text\\	+	Aug 21 #29905\\
-	Reply\\	+
-	Like\\	+
-	More\\	+
-	Denise WeeksAug 21 #29905 \\	+
	Great to see you on the big screen, Jonas! What a finish in the B final. Wow.		Great to see you on the big screen, Jonas! What a finish in the B final. Wow.

-	toggle quoted messageShow quoted text\\	+	paul clement
-	Reply\\	+
-	Like\\	+	Aug 22 #29907\\
-	More\\	+	Those were fun races to watch. Brutal distance. Nice job Jonas et al. The portage race was something to see as well.\\
-	paul clementAug 22 #29907 \\	+
-	Those were fun races to watch. Brutal distance. Nice job Jonas et al. The portage race was something to see as well. \\	+
	Good luck today!		Good luck today!

ICF World Surfski Championships Race Reports

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 08 Mar 2026 16:10:58 +0000

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	* [[https://surfskiracing.org/2025/11/usa-surfski-paddlers-2025-icf-cor-world-championships/\|Matt Drayer (USA) Report]]		* [[https://surfskiracing.org/2025/11/usa-surfski-paddlers-2025-icf-cor-world-championships/\|Matt Drayer (USA) Report]]
	* [[https://paddle.org.au/2025/10/20/hill-claims-fourth-world-championship-crown-at-ocean-racing-world-championships/\|Paddle Australia Report]]		* [[https://paddle.org.au/2025/10/20/hill-claims-fourth-world-championship-crown-at-ocean-racing-world-championships/\|Paddle Australia Report]]
		+	* Paddle UK
		+	* [[https://paddleuk.org.uk/rosie-edwards-becomes-the-first-british-ocean-racing-world-champion/\|Rosie Edwards U23 Champ]]
		+	* [[https://paddleuk.org.uk/doubles-day-at-the-ocean-racing-world-championships/\|Doubles Race]]
	* Total Paddler Reports		* Total Paddler Reports
	* [[https://www.totalpaddler.com/news/results-surf-individual-durban-icf-world-championship-2025/\|SS1 Results]]		* [[https://www.totalpaddler.com/news/results-surf-individual-durban-icf-world-championship-2025/\|SS1 Results]]

ICF World Champs links and info.

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:13 +0000

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	**Ana Swetish ICF U18 Ocean Racing Champ\\		**Ana Swetish ICF U18 Ocean Racing Champ\\
	Bob Putnam** \\		Bob Putnam** \\
-	09/11/19 #25396	+	09/11/19 #25396

-	Congrats to Ana and Wilson. Sorry missed catching Wilson	+	Congrats to Ana and Wilson. Sorry missed catching Wilson

	David Hooper \\		David Hooper \\
-	09/11/19 #25397	+	09/11/19 #25397

	Congrats Ana and Wilson! That's incredible!		Congrats Ana and Wilson! That's incredible!

-	Bob Putnam - do you have a son racing as well? I saw that Seth Putnam-Rea from Canada came in one spot ahead of Wilson. If so, congrats to him as well!	+	Bob Putnam - do you have a son racing as well? I saw that Seth Putnam-Rea from Canada came in one spot ahead of Wilson. If so, congrats to him as well!

	Mary Harmon		Mary Harmon

-	09/11/19 #25398	+	09/11/19 #25398

	Congrats from the Gorge!!		Congrats from the Gorge!!
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-	09/11/19 #25399	+	09/11/19 #25399

	so awesome Ana and Wilson! so lucky and fun to train with you once in a while !!!!\\		so awesome Ana and Wilson! so lucky and fun to train with you once in a while !!!!\\
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-	09/11/19 #25400	+	09/11/19 #25400

	Yes my son raced as well. Very tough conditions with wind and waves almost directly side-on.		Yes my son raced as well. Very tough conditions with wind and waves almost directly side-on.
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	**Inquiring minds want to know.\\		**Inquiring minds want to know.\\
-	allipp@…** \\	+	allipp@...** \\
-	09/12/19 #25402	+	09/12/19 #25402

	This is a direct quote from the pre race hype for the ICF World Champs "The location of the race means that it can take a number of routes dependent on the orientation of the wind."		This is a direct quote from the pre race hype for the ICF World Champs "The location of the race means that it can take a number of routes dependent on the orientation of the wind."

-	So why did they make all the paddlers race in way less than ideal side wind conditions? I'm sure Ana, Wilson and everyone else would have preferred an actual downwind race.	+	So why did they make all the paddlers race in way less than ideal side wind conditions? I'm sure Ana, Wilson and everyone else would have preferred an actual downwind race.

	OPS \\		OPS \\
-	09/12/19 #25403	+	09/12/19 #25403

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-	09/12/19 #25405	+	09/12/19 #25405

	A fair question.		A fair question.

-	While there were many course options and a three day window, this week was thrown out of normal weather patterns by hurricane Dorian. So given the options, I believe they chose the best day and the best course that they could. The only other course option on Wednesday would have been down wind but inside the peninsula so very sheltered.	+	While there were many course options and a three day window, this week was thrown out of normal weather patterns by hurricane Dorian. So given the options, I believe they chose the best day and the best course that they could. The only other course option on Wednesday would have been down wind but inside the peninsula so very sheltered.

-	This was an incredibly well run event and a great venue that had potential to deliver proper ocean racing conditions. Sadly it didn’t come to fruition.	+	This was an incredibly well run event and a great venue that had potential to deliver proper ocean racing conditions. Sadly it didn’t come to fruition.

	Kimberly Reeves		Kimberly Reeves

-	09/12/19 #25407	+	09/12/19 #25407

-	Sure… but managing whatever the ocean throws at you is more impressive and Ana and Wilson shined! Way to represent y’all!	+	Sure... but managing whatever the ocean throws at you is more impressive and Ana and Wilson shined! Way to represent y’all!

	Bob Putnam		Bob Putnam

-	09/13/19 #25408\\	+	09/13/19 #25408 \\
	Edited 09/16/19		Edited 09/16/19

	Hi Alan,\\		Hi Alan,\\
-	The course the ICF offered was that best conditions available during the window. Everybody would always like paddle in perfect downwind conditions all the time, but that is not a reality. Part of Ocean Racing is being able to handle whatever the ocean throws at you. It was certainly a course that challenged the best paddlers in the world, the most versatile paddlers prevailed! Oscar didn't race because it wasn't pure downwind. The ICF put on a great race. Well organized. I was impressed with huge number of younger paddlers participating in the Open, U-23 and U-18 categories. I think the ICF is doing a good job of growing the sport. I would return to do another race here for sure. Hearing from other racers you have participated in races here in previous years, conditions have been very good. As a race organizer it drives me crazy when people criticize events base on weather.	+	The course the ICF offered was that best conditions available during the window. Everybody would always like paddle in perfect downwind conditions all the time, but that is not a reality. Part of Ocean Racing is being able to handle whatever the ocean throws at you. It was certainly a course that challenged the best paddlers in the world, the most versatile paddlers prevailed! Oscar didn't race because it wasn't pure downwind. The ICF put on a great race. Well organized. I was impressed with huge number of younger paddlers participating in the Open, U-23 and U-18 categories. I think the ICF is doing a good job of growing the sport. I would return to do another race here for sure. Hearing from other racers you have participated in races here in previous years, conditions have been very good. As a race organizer it drives me crazy when people criticize events base on weather.

-	**Greg's result–Masters division.\\	+	**Greg's result--Masters division.\\
	David Scherrer** \\		David Scherrer** \\
-	09/12/19 #25404	+	09/12/19 #25404

	The way I see it, the masters began at age 35 and was divided into 5 year age brackets.		The way I see it, the masters began at age 35 and was divided into 5 year age brackets.
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-	[[http://player.georacing.com/?server=Prod&event=101851&race=97449&name=SS1+-+Master\|http://player.georacing.com/?server=Prod&event=101851&race=97449&name=SS1+-+Master]]	+	http://player.georacing.com/?server=Prod&event=101851&race=97449&name=SS1+-+Master&fbclid=IwAR2qD50I8Yc7fyHJ8vZdx_VC9XYSRSEc5qOkTszRLyvXmRSatJyHVW_oqbs

	Tom Swetish \\		Tom Swetish \\
-	09/12/19 #25406	+	09/12/19 #25406

	And that’s after a brutal open race the day before!!		And that’s after a brutal open race the day before!!
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-	09/13/19 #25409	+	09/13/19 #25409

-	David, based on the links results, Greg would have finished between an hour and 4 hrs behind the leader. Hard to tell, but don’t think so! Probably need to wait until the results are cleaned up.\\	+	David, based on the links results, Greg would have finished between an hour and 4 hrs behind the leader. Hard to tell, but don’t think so! Probably need to wait until the results are cleaned up.\\
	Larry Bussinger		Larry Bussinger

	Bob Putnam		Bob Putnam

-	09/13/19 #25411	+	09/13/19 #25411

-	Greg is now 60, he was in 60+ age cat. But he would have won the 50+ too.	+	Greg is now 60, he was in 60+ age cat. But he would have won the 50+ too.

ICF Worlds Surfski 2021 Lanzarote, Canary Islands

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:12 +0000

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-	[[https://www.thepaddler.news/latest-news/notten-burn-crowned-2021-icf-ocean-racing-world-champions/?fbclid=IwAR2TcIGXdKSmJkBSU1nGFgquBmdALYVdaaSYKoU52tWPjh6mvfd1Afb8XFs\|https://www.thepaddler.news/latest-news/notten-burn-crowned-2021-icf-ocean-racing-world-champions/?fbclid=IwAR2TcIGXdKSmJkBSU1nGFgquBmdALYVdaaSYKoU52tWPjh6mvfd1Afb8XFs]]	+	[[https://www.thepaddler.news/latest-news/notten-burn-crowned-2021-icf-ocean-racing-world-champions/\|https://www.thepaddler.news/latest-news/notten-burn-crowned-2021-icf-ocean-racing-world-champions/]]

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ICF Worlds Surfski 2022 Vila do Conde, Portugal

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sat, 14 Jun 2025 21:28:45 +0000

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	:D'\\		:D'\\
-	[[https://memosoft.spotfokus.com/timetable/eventdetail/84/2022-ICF-Canoe-Ocean-Racing-World-Championships\|https://memosoft.spotfokus.com/timetable/eventdetail/84/2022-ICF-Canoe-Ocean-Racing-World-Championships]]	+	[[https://memosoft.spotfokus.com/timetable/eventdetail/2022-84/2022-ICF-Canoe-Ocean-Racing-World-Championships\|https://memosoft.spotfokus.com/timetable/eventdetail/2022-84/2022-ICF-Canoe-Ocean-Racing-World-Championships]]

	Jacquelyn Styrna <jacquelyn.styrna100@…>10/06/22 #32477		Jacquelyn Styrna <jacquelyn.styrna100@…>10/06/22 #32477

ICF Worlds Surfski 2023 Scarborough, Australia

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:13 +0000

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	11/30/23 #34778\\		11/30/23 #34778\\
-	[[https://bluechipresults.com.au/results.aspx?CId=11&RId=1679&EId=1&dt=0\|https://bluechipresults.com.au/results.aspx?CId=11&RId=1679&EId=1&dt=0]]	+	[[https://bluechipresults.com.au/results.aspx?CId=11&RId=1679&EId=1&dt=0\|https://bluechipresults.com.au/results.aspx]]

	Denise Weeks \\		Denise Weeks \\

Idaho Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:13 +0000

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		+	Pend Oreille

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-	* Lake Pend Oreille	+	* Lake Pend Oreille
	* [[https://youtu.be/2WGJgJaUt-c\|foil video]]		* [[https://youtu.be/2WGJgJaUt-c\|foil video]]

ID on boats & gear

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:13 +0000

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	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	12/31/17 #22390
	+
	+	all you kids that didn't flunk kindiegarten know this: write your name on your stuff. Or get your mom to do it.
	+
	+	Great article on surfski.info about a surfski found on shore. Emergency responders were getting ready to mobilize but based on some identification on the boat a lot of search and rescue effort was saved. (Boat lost a rudder and paddler swam to shore.)
	+
	+	Even for paddles and stuff.
	+
	+	rd
	+

Stories and Incident Reports

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:14 +0000

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	Bellingham Bay photo from [[https://youtu.be/b-CdP1NRw3M\|video]] and [[:stories:calling_checklists_2_15_2020\|this story]]<font inherit/inherit;;#ffffff;;inherit>…………………………..</font>		Bellingham Bay photo from [[https://youtu.be/b-CdP1NRw3M\|video]] and [[:stories:calling_checklists_2_15_2020\|this story]]<font inherit/inherit;;#ffffff;;inherit>…………………………..</font>

India Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sat, 21 Mar 2026 18:43:05 +0000

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	* [[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuykg4We5c_ALqSZkwT9zjEFo_ktLaRoS\|Surfski TV Asia Youtube Playlist]]		* [[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuykg4We5c_ALqSZkwT9zjEFo_ktLaRoS\|Surfski TV Asia Youtube Playlist]]
-	* ...	+	* …
		+
		+	----

	===== Dealers/Lessons/Guides =====		===== Dealers/Lessons/Guides =====

Race report: Indian Arm Challenge 2018

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:14 +0000

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	+	===== Race report: Indian Arm Challenge 2018 =====
	+
	+	David Hooper \\
	+	09/09/18 #23773
	+
	+	I got a last minute urge to punish myself. Weekend sailing plans fell through and weather looked blah, so late Friday night I signed up for the race. Though, having not paddled further than about 14 miles all summer, and that just last weekend, calling my efforts a “race” seemed a little overblown. “Challenge” it was though – I mostly just wanted to see if I could paddle 20 miles. Plus, it sounded beautiful. I’ll start with apologies. First to Cryder: since I didn’t decide to go til late Friday night and left to drive up at 6 am Saturday, there wasn’t a chance to help transport your rudder up there. Second to Kevin O: Bainbridge is on my list for next year! Felt the Indian Arm itch, and needed to scratch it.
	+
	+	The start was in waves: first wave at 8 am, with mostly prone paddlers and SUPs, second wave was at 8:45 for those thinking they’d finish between 3.5 and 4.5 hours. Based on my previous week’s paddle, that was what I was figuring. Most of the fast surfskiers went in the third wave at 9:30. I’d also been looking at the tides, which had a 4+ knot ebb predicted that we’d have to buck going north during the first half of the race. The second wave start seemed like it had a better chance of catching the tail end of the ebb after turning around the halfway point – and also would have less of the subsequent flood to fight on the way back south. Once committed to a start wave, we were required to stick with it. Once on the line, however, I wondered if I’d made a mistake - it ended up being mostly fast SUPs and outriggers, with just a few of us (slower) surfskiers, mostly V8ish boats, except for me in my V10 Sport. With no drafting outside of class, it was looking to be a lonely paddle.
	+
	+	In the end, it worked out fine. A mixed OC2 led the way up the Arm, gradually widening their lead on me in second. I hugged the shore whenever possible, trying to avoid that ebbing current. Not sure if it helped or not. About ½ way up the Arm, I heard a woman’s voice trailing right behind me. It turned out to be OC-1 paddler Leeanne Stanley from Kelowna, right on my tail. She was there all the way to the ½ way point at Granite Falls. There, I’d promised myself food and energy drink. I was still feeling pretty good and emotions said “hold her off”, but intellect said “stop and fuel”. In a rare event, intellect won. Leeanne cruised past, “What? You’re stopping now?” As far as I could tell, she never broke pace the whole friggin’ way. Scott Borle, another OCer from Kelowna, also caught up, but also ate, drank, and stretched, as we joked about how our cramping asses would be the limiting factor on paddling that distance.
	+
	+	After a slow mile eating and sipping between strokes, I finally settled in again, waiting to feel the pull of that still-ebbing tide waft me back to Deep Cove. Instead, head wind. Not strong, only ~5-10 mph, just slaps across the bow like Mother Nature slapping my face to say, “Hah! Not so fast, or easy!” Close to shore gave little protection, and I was guessing what little dwindling ebb current would be stronger further out. Leeanne was slowly widening her lead. The mixed OC2 that had led our heat all the way up the Arm turned out to be part of a relay team (now there were some smart people!!), and they were well out of sight. Scott was just a bit behind me. Occasional glances over my shoulder convinced me that if I backed off at all, he’d go by as well. By the power plants, I was definitely feeling my lack of distance training. By Twin Island, all focus was on just trying to maintain form and not completely fall apart. I kept waiting for the fast paddlers in the third wave to slide by, just as we’d been passing the first wave SUPs and prone paddlers. As Deep Cove came into view, I knew I could finish, but it was a question of how fast – and it still looked a long ways away.
	+
	+	Rounding Jug Island and crossing the Arm back towards Deep Cove, the water suddenly went glassy. No wind, no discernible current. Though Leeanne’s pink Gorge t-shirt was just a dot in the distance, I found a little extra to push with for the last mile or so. I knew Scott was not far behind. As I crossed the finish line, I was waiting for the boom of the finishing cannon, the fireworks, and streams of confetti. But the girl recording just glanced at my number, looked up from her sheet, and asked for confirmation: “Dave?” “Yep.” I turned around, slowly paddled out, congratulated Leeanne, and cheered on the folks coming in for a bit. As I pulled my boat out of the water, the first folks from the third wave were crossing the line.
	+
	+	All in all, it was a fun day – beautiful course, decent weather (hooray for cool and cloudy), and lots of raffle prizes - though none were won by either myself or the only other Bellinghamster I saw there, SUP paddler Dale Plant. (There are two lessons here: First, with something like 40 raffle prizes and only 64 people signed up, I think Dale and I didn’t win a raffle because the Canadians are still mad about Alan Lipp dissing their races. Second, there were lots of categories, including those for the smart people (relay) with only one or two entrants. Some (women’s HPK) had none. So, if you’re looking to bring home an impressive painted rock prize, you and two friends in the same category should sign up next year.) Overall, I felt pretty good about my paddle. It was a longer distance than I’d ever done, I beat the pace I was aiming for, and I could fool myself into thinking that I’d finished second for soloists (I just ignored the fact that all the third-wave paddlers would be way faster than me – yet another bonus of starting in the second wave). Plus, it only really hurt for the last six miles or so.
	+
	+	Dave H.
	+
	+	David Scherrer \\
	+	09/09/18 #23774
	+
	+	Great write up Dave!
	+

Race Report: Indian Arm Challenge

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:14 +0000

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	+	Nicholas Cryder \\
	+	09/14/19 #25420
	+
	+	"Well that was hard, but it could have been worse"
	+
	+	Good turnout, almost 100 paddlers which is surprising because the weather was less than inviting. But a few of the usual suspects were absent; either horking croissants while sniffing fine cheese and slurping brilliant wine or not old enough to enjoy any of the above and chasing olympic level dreams. Oh yeah, and the Traverse was today so there's that.
	+
	+	Three wave start, with the self designated fastest paddlers going last at 9:30 which was single skis, rowers, oc2's and some double skis. No out of class drafting. It was a little strange to not blast off the line for a race start for a change, actually no it was very weird. Sort of an orderly and thoughtful gradual acceleration as maybe everyone took a moment to do some self reflection as to why on earth we'd be racing 20 miles in the rain in mid-September... "oh yeah, this is how I pay for my love of yummy food and drink!"
	+
	+	Once everyone got the race pace dialed in, the pressure started to build and the gaps started to form. At about 3k mark, Greg Redman took control of the race, and after a decent effort of staying with him for the next few km I knew that he'd only add speed and that I'd only loose speed and that I needed to just find a pace I could live with for the next ten miles. A young woman rower who had been dicing with us suddenly got leg cramps and I think we were sad to see her go. But I am pretty sure she finished the race anyway. Grit! As we rounded the final island and scooted past Granite Falls for the return trip, I imagined everyone on shore sipping cocoa and wrapped in snuggly towells... It was a handy reminder to be more friendly in order to get invited to be on a relay team.
	+
	+	The punishingly strong ebb that had made the trip north into the Fjord a grind was now my new best friend, and I was very grateful for the fast km's ticking by as the rain started to downpour.
	+
	+	By the race end, everyone had seemed to have paddled out the crazy inside and were pretty pleased that the forecasted 20mph wind never materialized (which would have been like paddling to upwind Eliza on a big day from the harbor...) so it wound up being very fun paddling for the most part in the rainy, super flat water.
	+
	+	Hats off to Deep Cove for hosting and running a dialed event; great food and drink afterwards and nice tents everywhere to shelter from the rain was a brilliant touch.
	+
	+	RESULTS: https://www.webscorer.com/racedetails?raceid=195203&did=217054
	+
	+	Nicholas Cryder\\
	+	\\
	+	David Hooper \\
	+	09/14/19 #25423
	+
	+	Nice write-up, Nick. Indeed we lucked out with the weather. I'd been watching the forecast all week, which was for rain all day and south winds gusting to 20+ mph. That would make the return 10 miles rather unappealing, so I didn't end up registering for the race until about 11 pm on Friday night. By then, the forecast had dropped to 8-10, gusting to 17. But in the end, none of it materialized, until about 2 or 3 pm. By then, we had all finished. Just glassy.
	+
	+	I started in the "fast" group at 9:30, but after trying to hang with Larry B. and a crew of folks in the middle pack for the first few k, I dropped back to a slower group. It's hard to judge how hard to go when you know some people are doing relays; I knew I had to pace myself for the full 20 miles. We chugged up the Arm, swapping leads and tailgates, until things spread out a bit at Croker Island, near the turn-around at Granite Falls. I think I saw Larry B. coming into the hand-off to Marc W. a little ways ahead of me.
	+
	+	The paddle back down the Arm was very differernt - all spread out, and I mostly paddled alone until Marc W. and a pack of 2nd-leggers blew by about half-way back. Then suddenly it was a race again, not just a weekend paddle in a beautiful fjord with clouds (and rain) drifting among the peaks. I would've liked to have jumped on the train, but didn't have the juice at that point. I had some good back-and-forth with another middle-aged male HPK doing the whole course. When we rounded Jug Island though, I was able to call forth some interval training muscle memory for a couple hard pushes that dropped him off my wake. Then it was just a grind to the finish for the last couple k.
	+
	+	In the end, I was pretty happy to knock several minutes off my time from last year and not have to paddle upwind for 10 miles. By the way, Larry B and Marc, I have the beers you won for being 3rd place in Men's HPK Relay. I'll try not to drink them between now and intervals on Monday.
	+
	+	A fun, beautiful, well-run, well-fed race. Highly recommended.
	+
	+	Dave H.
	+
	+	John Schwandt
	+
	+	09/15/19 #25426
	+
	+	Great Job to Nicholas (2nd overall) and David (23rd overall)! Thanks for the narrative. It sounds like a heck of a race.
	+
	+	The traverse was the opposite; short, downwind, and a complete blast till that little jog after (which I didn't budget for). :)\\
	+	John S.
	+
	+	David Hooper \\
	+	09/15/19 #25429
	+
	+	Thanks, John. Kudos also to Team Bussinger/Whitlock (20th overall) and B'ham SUP paddler Dale Plant, who finished 7th amongst the male SUPs - the only category with almost as many people as the male surfskis.
	+
	+	Glad you got to do your Traverse kayak leg!
	+
	+	Dave H.
	+

Indoor surfski racks

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Thu, 03 Apr 2025 19:06:12 +0000

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-	same thing. Adjustable. They haven't blown off even in the wind without bungies, not recommended. \\ Pick up some eyelets for bungies, &I'd recommend the pool foamies if you can find them this time of year. They can come extra thick.	+	same thing. Adjustable. They haven't blown off even in the wind without bungees, not recommended. \\ Pick up some eyelets for bungees, &I'd recommend the pool foamies if you can find them this time of year. They can come extra thick.

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Injury & Health Conditions: Prevention and Treatment

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Mon, 17 Nov 2025 18:52:07 +0000

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	* [[:lower_back\|]]		* [[:lower_back\|]]
	* Elbows		* Elbows
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-	* [[:back_side_butt_rub\|Rubbing And Abrasion]]	+	* [[health:back_side_butt_rub\|Rubbing And Abrasion]]
	* [[:butt_glute_pain\|Sitting Discomfort - Glutes, Hamstrings, etc.]]		* [[:butt_glute_pain\|Sitting Discomfort - Glutes, Hamstrings, etc.]]
	* [[https://www.amazon.com/Trigger-Point-Therapy-Workbook-Self-Treatment/dp/1572242507/ref=pd_lpo_14_t_1/146-6460051-6376229?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1572242507&pd_rd_r=5bc6ca9a-5232-40b8-8681-c0f7b9597275&pd_rd_w=phkU0&pd_rd_wg=pBbZM&pf_rd_p=7b36d496-f366-4631-94d3-61b87b52511b&pf_rd_r=9WV5TK7WEEXJBXN571Z0&psc=1&refRID=9WV5TK7WEEXJBXN571Z0\|Trigger Point Therapy Workbook]]		* [[https://www.amazon.com/Trigger-Point-Therapy-Workbook-Self-Treatment/dp/1572242507/ref=pd_lpo_14_t_1/146-6460051-6376229?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1572242507&pd_rd_r=5bc6ca9a-5232-40b8-8681-c0f7b9597275&pd_rd_w=phkU0&pd_rd_wg=pBbZM&pf_rd_p=7b36d496-f366-4631-94d3-61b87b52511b&pf_rd_r=9WV5TK7WEEXJBXN571Z0&psc=1&refRID=9WV5TK7WEEXJBXN571Z0\|Trigger Point Therapy Workbook]]

intro_to_distance

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Ireland Surfski

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	* [[https://www.iska.ie/\|Irish Sea Kayaking Association]]		* [[https://www.iska.ie/\|Irish Sea Kayaking Association]]
	* [[https://www.facebook.com/groups/surfskiireland\|Surfski Ireland]] (facebook)		* [[https://www.facebook.com/groups/surfskiireland\|Surfski Ireland]] (facebook)
-	* [[https://www.wwkc.net/marathon/\|Wild Water Kayak Club]] Dublin recreational and competitive kayaking club that trains regularly on the river Liffey and also out of Howth Harbour. Club members regularly partake in races and go on regular downwind trips. There are club surfskis available for new members to use.	+	* [[https://www.wwkc.net/marathon/\|Wild Water Kayak Club]] (WWKC) Dublin recreational and competitive kayaking club that trains regularly on the river Liffey and also out of Howth Harbour. Club members regularly partake in races and go on regular downwind trips. There are club surfskis available for new members to use.
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Ireland Downwind/Paddle Videos

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Island County Waterways

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	* [[https://islandcountygis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=f5b50295e95842e993ea0144f42c3b5a&level=10\|GIS Interactive Land Use Viewer]]		* [[https://islandcountygis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=f5b50295e95842e993ea0144f42c3b5a&level=10\|GIS Interactive Land Use Viewer]]
		+	* [[https://islandcountygis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=e5e41b5895314fbaa3662a2b01ddb21f&level=10\|GIS Critical Areas Viewer]] Shoreline slope stability, State owned shoreline, Regulated waterways, etc.

Israel Surfski

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	* Atlit - Dor Beach 16 km [[https://youtu.be/4yb4xKzGss0\|video]], [[https://www.downwind.fun/courses/atlit-to-dor-beach-downwind\|Downwindfun]]		* Atlit - Dor Beach 16 km [[https://youtu.be/4yb4xKzGss0\|video]], [[https://www.downwind.fun/courses/atlit-to-dor-beach-downwind\|Downwindfun]]
	* Haifa		* Haifa
-	* **Acco (Akko) - Haifa **12 -13 km [[https://youtu.be/a4rbWjzynms\|video]], [[https://youtu.be/6yrcVNfHcUg\|video]]	+	* Akko (Acre) - Haifa 12 -13 km [[https://youtu.be/a4rbWjzynms\|video]], [[https://youtu.be/6yrcVNfHcUg\|video]]
	* Lakes		* Lakes
	* Sea of Galilee (Lake Kinneret, Tiberian Sea)		* Sea of Galilee (Lake Kinneret, Tiberian Sea)
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-	* **Acco ** [[https://youtu.be/Wz_GUwDVwFA?t=69\|video]]	+	* **Akko (Acre) ** [[https://youtu.be/Wz_GUwDVwFA?t=69\|video]]
	* Daniel Rowing Center? [[https://youtu.be/Lo9v4t5gEn8\|video]] (which beach is this?)		* Daniel Rowing Center? [[https://youtu.be/Lo9v4t5gEn8\|video]] (which beach is this?)
	* Haifa [[https://youtu.be/MniVw__7GA4\|video]], [[https://youtu.be/2Lr5KMkO6p4\|short 360° video]], [[https://youtu.be/IG-UPH4BINQ?t=43\|video]]		* Haifa [[https://youtu.be/MniVw__7GA4\|video]], [[https://youtu.be/2Lr5KMkO6p4\|short 360° video]], [[https://youtu.be/IG-UPH4BINQ?t=43\|video]]

Italy Surfski

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-	* [[:wild_life#italy\|Italian Sea Creatures]]	+	* [[:wild_life#italy\|Sea Creatures near Italy]]
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Adriatic Sea Shores (Italy)

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-	* Vogalonga [[http://www.vogalonga.com/en/home-2/\|on water celebration]][[https://youtu.be/mUeNtzBpBV4\|]]	+	* Vogalonga [[http://www.vogalonga.com/en/home-2/\|on water celebration]]
	* [[https://youtu.be/mUeNtzBpBV4\|video]]		* [[https://youtu.be/mUeNtzBpBV4\|video]]
	* Clubs		* Clubs

Italian Fresh Water Paddling

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	* <del>[[http://www.surfski.vacations\|Surfski Vacations]] offers trips to Lake </del> <del>Garda</del> seems to be offline 2024		* <del>[[http://www.surfski.vacations\|Surfski Vacations]] offers trips to Lake </del> <del>Garda</del> seems to be offline 2024
-	* [[https://travelinkayak.com/surfski-2/\|Travel in Kayak]] surfski trips (have done trips on Lake Garda)	+	* <del>[[https://travelinkayak.com/surfski-2/\|Travel in Kayak]]</del>(security warnings about their website?) surfski trips (have done trips on Lake Garda)

	Resources		Resources

Adriatic/Ionian & Ionian/Tyrhennian Sea Shores (Italy)

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:16 +0000

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Tyrrhenian & Ligurian Sea Shores (Italy)

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	* [[https://www.canoa.org/associazioni.html?reg=LAZ\|Italian Canoe Federation Clubs in Lazio]]		* [[https://www.canoa.org/associazioni.html?reg=LAZ\|Italian Canoe Federation Clubs in Lazio]]
		+	* [[https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61574661005632\|Roma Canoa]] (facebook)
	* [[https://www.bluedreaming.it/en/centers/watersportsrm/\|Water Sports Center Roma]] (Ostia)		* [[https://www.bluedreaming.it/en/centers/watersportsrm/\|Water Sports Center Roma]] (Ostia)
	* [[https://www.facebook.com/p/Watersports-Center-Roma-100063593052502/\|Facebook Page]]		* [[https://www.facebook.com/p/Watersports-Center-Roma-100063593052502/\|Facebook Page]]

Italy Downwind/Paddle Videos

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Jantex & Epic Paddle Comments

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:16 +0000

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	I have used an Epic small mid for years and a Mid for a while. I found the mid just too big on a long paddle and too much for me to pull as fast as I would like catching big waves. I have a preference for a faster cadence in my paddling over all so I have my Epic Small mid at 207-209 depending. I use 1 cm-1.5 cm shorter paddle length in the Gamma Rio small + than my Epic small mid.		I have used an Epic small mid for years and a Mid for a while. I found the mid just too big on a long paddle and too much for me to pull as fast as I would like catching big waves. I have a preference for a faster cadence in my paddling over all so I have my Epic Small mid at 207-209 depending. I use 1 cm-1.5 cm shorter paddle length in the Gamma Rio small + than my Epic small mid.

-	I have the ultra light blade which seems normal and tough and thicker and tougher than the Epic blades. I have the Jantex flexi soft shaft, their softest, but it’s not exactly what I would call soft. To me it’s more like an Epic maroon shaft in stiffness. It’s not nearly as soft as the Epic Green club shaft which I really like. So if you are old and have dodgy shoulders like me.. get the flexi soft shaft for sure. I find the paddle (Gamma Rio small +)has two powers. It feels a bit less powerful and a bit more vague than the Epic small Mid when cruising, but if you dig in it really bites and feels more like the Epic mid in bight if not more. So it feels kinda under powered unless you crank on it , then it’s more than enough. It likes a forward weighted stroke and if you bring it back very far it looses much of its support and forgivingness. But as long as you keep your stroke forward and get it out at your hip it’s very stable and forgiving. So I had to adjust to that somewhat. The really stable end of the stroke with the Epic small mid isn’t there in the Jantex so its better the get the blade back in the water up front and use the more stable beginning of the stroke in the Jantex for boat stability. The Jantex felt less stable when paddling skinny skis initially for me, but now there is no difference as long as I get the blade out at my hip. In fact the front of the stroke is more stable that the Epic so it just takes some adjusting. The front loaded stroke and real bite when digging in seems to help me pop onto waves with maybe a stroke less than the Epic small mid. It also winds up quicker than the Epic small mid and I can spin it faster. It also comes out of the water faster for a quick brace. It just feels quicker over all. So all in all after some time getting use to it I really like it on a downwind. I feel there is more power on hand when needed but over all less tiring in a proper downwind. On the other hand I find it hard on my shoulders on a flat water grind and if I had to go grind out 15 miles I think I would grab the Small mid instead … Its a less aggressive paddle and easer on my shoulders over the long haul. It also, at least for me, doesn’t like just cruising. It wants to be digging in and used aggressively or it’s soft and mushy feeling. In the gorge though, I feel like the Gamma Rio small + is perfect for me and exactly what I was looking for in a Downwind paddle. It has power when you need it and then it’s an easy swing when paddling at 50-75%, fast to wind up with none of the speed limit I feel in the Epic sometimes. It’s super quick on a brace never feeling stuck in the water and never ever catches when skimming. It would be perfect if it had the Epic Green shaft though. It’s still a bit too stiff for my liking. I can’t even imagen what the stiffer shafts must be like.	+	I have the ultra light blade which seems normal and tough and thicker and tougher than the Epic blades. I have the Jantex flexi soft shaft, their softest, but it’s not exactly what I would call soft. To me it’s more like an Epic maroon shaft in stiffness. It’s not nearly as soft as the Epic Green club shaft which I really like. So if you are old and have dodgy shoulders like me.. get the flexi soft shaft for sure. I find the paddle (Gamma Rio small +)has two powers. It feels a bit less powerful and a bit more vague than the Epic small Mid when cruising, but if you dig in it really bites and feels more like the Epic mid in bite if not more. So it feels kinda under powered unless you crank on it , then it’s more than enough. It likes a forward weighted stroke and if you bring it back very far it looses much of its support and forgivingness. But as long as you keep your stroke forward and get it out at your hip it’s very stable and forgiving. So I had to adjust to that somewhat. The really stable end of the stroke with the Epic small mid isn’t there in the Jantex so its better the get the blade back in the water up front and use the more stable beginning of the stroke in the Jantex for boat stability. The Jantex felt less stable when paddling skinny skis initially for me, but now there is no difference as long as I get the blade out at my hip. In fact the front of the stroke is more stable that the Epic so it just takes some adjusting. The front loaded stroke and real bite when digging in seems to help me pop onto waves with maybe a stroke less than the Epic small mid. It also winds up quicker than the Epic small mid and I can spin it faster. It also comes out of the water faster for a quick brace. It just feels quicker over all. So all in all after some time getting use to it I really like it on a downwind. I feel there is more power on hand when needed but over all less tiring in a proper downwind. On the other hand I find it hard on my shoulders on a flat water grind and if I had to go grind out 15 miles I think I would grab the Small mid instead … Its a less aggressive paddle and easer on my shoulders over the long haul. It also, at least for me, doesn’t like just cruising. It wants to be digging in and used aggressively or it’s soft and mushy feeling. In the gorge though, I feel like the Gamma Rio small + is perfect for me and exactly what I was looking for in a Downwind paddle. It has power when you need it and then it’s an easy swing when paddling at 50-75%, fast to wind up with none of the speed limit I feel in the Epic sometimes. It’s super quick on a brace never feeling stuck in the water and never ever catches when skimming. It would be perfect if it had the Epic Green shaft though. It’s still a bit too stiff for my liking. I can’t even imagen what the stiffer shafts must be like.

	I also think you need to have your stroke mostly sorted for the Gamma Rio to work well. You need to dictate where it goes rather than the paddle so much. It definitely bites best when you rotate and the paddle works away from the boat, but doesn’t really have a tendency to do it on its own. If I get sloppy /tired about rotation it lets me know by feeling mushy looses support and power. The Epic is more forgiving in this sense . I think the Gamma Rio would be a thought paddle to learn on.		I also think you need to have your stroke mostly sorted for the Gamma Rio to work well. You need to dictate where it goes rather than the paddle so much. It definitely bites best when you rotate and the paddle works away from the boat, but doesn’t really have a tendency to do it on its own. If I get sloppy /tired about rotation it lets me know by feeling mushy looses support and power. The Epic is more forgiving in this sense . I think the Gamma Rio would be a thought paddle to learn on.

Japan Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sat, 21 Mar 2026 18:43:48 +0000

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	* [[https://www.youtube.com/@マックスねこ/videos\|Max Cat Youtube Channel]]		* [[https://www.youtube.com/@マックスねこ/videos\|Max Cat Youtube Channel]]
	* [[https://www.youtube.com/@PADDLEROFFICIAL/videos\|The Paddler Youtube Channel]] The Paddler/Kenny Kaneko mostly Outrigger & SUP videos		* [[https://www.youtube.com/@PADDLEROFFICIAL/videos\|The Paddler Youtube Channel]] The Paddler/Kenny Kaneko mostly Outrigger & SUP videos
		+	* [[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuykg4We5c_ALqSZkwT9zjEFo_ktLaRoS\|Surfski TV Asia Youtube Playlist]]
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Jersey Channel Islands Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Tue, 02 Dec 2025 19:34:33 +0000

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-	* Belcroute Bay [[https://youtu.be/FJ9enSRg5f4?t=56\|video]]	+	* Belcroute Bay [[https://youtu.be/FJ9enSRg5f4?t=56\|laps video]], [[https://youtu.be/UM8HLV6za-E\|laps video]]
	* Belcroute Bay to La Rocque 11 km [[https://downwindable.com/belcroute-to-la-rocque-run\|Downwindable.com]], [[https://www.downwind.fun/courses/belcroute-to-la-rocque-downwind\|Downwindfun]],[[https://youtu.be/MJCHCtLVydI\|video]]		* Belcroute Bay to La Rocque 11 km [[https://downwindable.com/belcroute-to-la-rocque-run\|Downwindable.com]], [[https://www.downwind.fun/courses/belcroute-to-la-rocque-downwind\|Downwindfun]],[[https://youtu.be/MJCHCtLVydI\|video]]
	* St Helier, West Park Slip - Belcroute Bay (Green Run) 4 km [[https://downwindable.com/green-run\|Downwindable.com]], [[https://youtu.be/VOsKU0pRvWM\|video]]		* St Helier, West Park Slip - Belcroute Bay (Green Run) 4 km [[https://downwindable.com/green-run\|Downwindable.com]], [[https://youtu.be/VOsKU0pRvWM\|video]]

Jetty Island (Everett, WA)

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-	<font inherit/Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>Jetty Island typically has mid/late afternoon wind in the summer almost every day during the months of April, May, June, July, and August. The simplest way to explain the wind pattern is: the Strait of Juan de Fuca is just west of Jetty, Whidbey, and Hat Islands and, almost every afternoon, winds get channeled through the Strait and spread out on the east side of the Puget Sound, Jetty (and the Seattle metro area) getting northwest winds. Those winds coming from the Juan de Fuca Strait are a product of several factors, but the two most important are daytime heating of the land surrounding the Strait and the fact that there is almost always higher pressure over the open ocean and lower pressure over inland Washington. Now air likes to flow from high to low pressure, so if there is higher pressure over the open Pacific than over Washington, the air filling the Strait will flow from west to east…right towards Jetty.</font>	+	<font inherit/Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>"Jetty Island typically has mid/late afternoon wind in the summer almost every day during the months of April, May, June, July, and August. The simplest way to explain the wind pattern is: the Strait of Juan de Fuca is just west of Jetty, Whidbey, and Hat Islands and, almost every afternoon, winds get channeled through the Strait and spread out on the east side of the Puget Sound, Jetty (and the Seattle metro area) getting northwest winds. Those winds coming from the Juan de Fuca Strait are a product of several factors, but the two most important are daytime heating of the land surrounding the Strait and the fact that there is almost always higher pressure over the open ocean and lower pressure over inland Washington. Now air likes to flow from high to low pressure, so if there is higher pressure over the open Pacific than over Washington, the air filling the Strait will flow from west to east…right towards Jetty.</font>

	<font inherit/Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>It is typically blow dryer air which means the wind is not very gusty so wave size and quality is usually better than what you think it would be for high teen to low twenty wind speeds. Look for an air temperature differential of 10 degrees or more from Port Angeles/Pt Townsend to Everett. I usually //look for an incoming tide to be above 5 feet// which helps the wave size and minimizes the amount of walking in the mud flat at lower tides. There’s a trail across the island that is about 200 yards long that I take which is much quicker than paddling around and therefore leaves more time and energy for surfing. Sometimes there can be some time waiting for the wind to arrive. The iKitesurf app has a wind graph that shows the predicted wind which is usually accurate in the summer months.</font>		<font inherit/Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;;inherit;;inherit>It is typically blow dryer air which means the wind is not very gusty so wave size and quality is usually better than what you think it would be for high teen to low twenty wind speeds. Look for an air temperature differential of 10 degrees or more from Port Angeles/Pt Townsend to Everett. I usually //look for an incoming tide to be above 5 feet// which helps the wave size and minimizes the amount of walking in the mud flat at lower tides. There’s a trail across the island that is about 200 yards long that I take which is much quicker than paddling around and therefore leaves more time and energy for surfing. Sometimes there can be some time waiting for the wind to arrive. The iKitesurf app has a wind graph that shows the predicted wind which is usually accurate in the summer months.</font>
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-	In the late fall thru mid-spring when the Snohomish river is at high flows and during ebb tides combined with a NW, W or SW wind there are standing waves at the north end of Jetty Island between the Island and Priest Point.	+	In the late fall thru mid-spring when the Snohomish river is at high flows and during ebb tides combined with a NW, W or SW wind there are standing waves at the north end of Jetty Island between the Island and Priest Point."

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A different kind of Jetty Island

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:17 +0000

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	+	lori & beau whitehead \\
	+	06/30/12 #12843
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	+	I thought some of you Sound Rowers types would appreciate this... there was a stand up paddleboard race today at Jetty Island (and it was my 10th race since May 1st, so I was not too keen on what transpired.) Anyway, they thought it would be a good idea to run the race without actually looking at a tide chart. (SUP'rs aren't always the brightest) Well, it was SUPER low. We had to go over a half-mile off shore to avoid the shallows. Quite a bit further than the last time I did a Sound Rowers event there. And to really make things fun, there was a sand bar under 6 inches of water, all the way across the north end of the island & opening to the river. No channel, nothing. I was over 200 yards from any shore and had to walk for about 200 feet to be able to paddle again. Awesome. But everyone had to do the same thing, so I guess misery loves company.
	+
	+	No way I'm going to muster up the energy to drive out to the Juan de Fuca race tomorrow. Good luck to those of you who do go, and I hope it turns out to be a true downwinder!
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	+	Cheers!
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	+	Beau Whitehead
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	+	Eric Grossman \\
	+	06/30/12 #12844
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	+	Beau,\\
	+	Sounds like a new sport, SUP-Cross! Bring a shoulder strap next time and run the portage part?\\
	+	Yowza. E
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	+	Michael Lee <mlee@...>
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	+	06/30/12 #12845
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	+	Bummer…I saw that minus tide on the tide chart the other day. Good day for tidepooling, bad day for SUP paddling.
	+
	+	tahalsted
	+
	+	06/30/12 #12846
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	+	I can sympathize with the portage aspect. I work in Everett, and often paddle my ski or kayak at lunch. The first time I tried to go around the Island at low tide, I ran aground and had to drag the kayak back to - and over - the island to get back in time for another "important" meeting. I don't go around the island now, unless 1) it's mid-to-high tide (rising), or 2) I'm willing to go offshore about 1/2 mile, just for fun.
	+
	+	On the bright side, you can clearly see the north-end rocks on a minus tide, and it's amusing to watch more arrogant power boaters hit the shallow mud banks near the boat launch (especially after they've flipped you off on their way to oblivion).
	+
	+	-tom
	+

Journeys/Adventures

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-	<font 11px/inherit;;inherit;;inherit>Photo Santa Maria River, Mexico 1986: Paul Reavley Click on photo to Enlarge</font>	+	<font 11px/inherit;;inherit;;inherit>Photos: Santa Maria River, Mexico 1986: Paul Reavley, David McKenzie, Frank Endres Click on photo to Enlarge</font>

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Strait of Juan de Fuca

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	* 2021 (Wanda Fuca) came back once, back on hold since		* 2021 (Wanda Fuca) came back once, back on hold since
	* [[:races:washington_race_reports#h_i_j_k_l\|Past Downwind Race Reports]]		* [[:races:washington_race_reports#h_i_j_k_l\|Past Downwind Race Reports]]
		+	* [[https://www.salmonbaypaddle.com/hobuck-coastal-surf-race/\|Hobuck Coast Surf Race]] (this is actually on the Pacific Coast around the corner from the Strait, but close enough)
	* [[:races:puget_sound_races\|]]		* [[:races:puget_sound_races\|]]
	* Rat Island Race/Crossing Strait of Juan de Fuca at Port Townsend		* Rat Island Race/Crossing Strait of Juan de Fuca at Port Townsend

Kai Wa'a Vega vs Think Uno Max

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Thu, 03 Apr 2025 19:00:05 +0000

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-	//2) Also check out discussion of improving/improved [[:modifications#drainage\|Vega Drainage]]//	+	//2) Also check out discussion of improving/improved [[:modifications#drainageair_pressure_equalization\|Vega Drainage]]//

	//3) Don't underestimate how much you can change the geometry of a seat with padding. Within any limitations you might potentially impose by interfering with stability - if you are adding padding underneath your butt you can change your seat height and your interaction with your leg thrust, rotation, etc. AND you can change the tilt of you seating position more than you might imagine with some well placed padding. But you will have to experiment and test padding configurations to determine whether you can solve any problems you encounter with a surfski seat design.//		//3) Don't underestimate how much you can change the geometry of a seat with padding. Within any limitations you might potentially impose by interfering with stability - if you are adding padding underneath your butt you can change your seat height and your interaction with your leg thrust, rotation, etc. AND you can change the tilt of you seating position more than you might imagine with some well placed padding. But you will have to experiment and test padding configurations to determine whether you can solve any problems you encounter with a surfski seat design.//

Kaua`i (Kauai), HI Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Thu, 04 Dec 2025 14:25:15 +0000

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	As of 2024, the boat rental resources for Surfski and OC1 that we used to know are no longer available. Mainland paddlers who visit Kauai regularly often own or share ownership of surfskis and OC1s that are kept on Kauai. Our best recommendation currently for seeking a possible boat to paddle is to check with some of the OC clubs. They may know of someone who is willing to rent out/loan an OC1. Some club members may also paddle surfskis. If you live somewhere that a paddler might like to visit/paddle at, work an exchange?		As of 2024, the boat rental resources for Surfski and OC1 that we used to know are no longer available. Mainland paddlers who visit Kauai regularly often own or share ownership of surfskis and OC1s that are kept on Kauai. Our best recommendation currently for seeking a possible boat to paddle is to check with some of the OC clubs. They may know of someone who is willing to rent out/loan an OC1. Some club members may also paddle surfskis. If you live somewhere that a paddler might like to visit/paddle at, work an exchange?

-	You can try checking with Dylan Thomas (owner of [[https://www.havaikiart.com/\|Havaiki Art]] in Hanalei) who used to guide surfski trips and maintain the defunct Surfski Kauai website if he has any rental suggestions.	+	You can try checking with Dylan Thomas (owner of [[https://www.havaikiart.com/\|Havaiki Art]]) who used to guide surfski trips to ask if he has any rental suggestions.

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Northshore - Kalihiwai to Hanalei

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:18 +0000

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-	Michael Woods:	+	Michael Wood:

-	"... a usual sporty Northshore day in the winter/spring if you can get off the beach.. Wind was E25 plus gusts, NW swell 5', ENE swell 8' ( from Hanalei sea buoy). You do a beach launch north, paddle out north for 1.25 mi into somewhat large usually unbreaking waves.	+	"… a usual sporty Northshore day in the winter/spring if you can get off the beach.. Wind was E25 plus gusts, NW swell 5', ENE swell 8' ( from Hanalei sea buoy). You do a beach launch north, paddle out north for 1.25 mi into somewhat large usually unbreaking waves.

	Then you turn downwind west for a 6 mile run to far side of Hanalei "bowl". For 5 miles you play on the wind and swell bumps. Then the last mile of the run is along a rock cliff which refracts all the swells hitting it. There's a few shallow shelfs that extend out from reefs and walls that can stack the swells on given days. It can be a heaving lurching rolling mass of confusion within which is the podium bump if you can find it.		Then you turn downwind west for a 6 mile run to far side of Hanalei "bowl". For 5 miles you play on the wind and swell bumps. Then the last mile of the run is along a rock cliff which refracts all the swells hitting it. There's a few shallow shelfs that extend out from reefs and walls that can stack the swells on given days. It can be a heaving lurching rolling mass of confusion within which is the podium bump if you can find it.

-	From May-October it's a different run. Much more regular and mellow.Wind E 15-20 E Swell 3-5', 3' wind bump right behind you. No refracted waves on the wall. You can go right by Queens bath and impress the tourists...."	+	From May-October it's a different run. Much more regular and mellow.Wind E 15-20 E Swell 3-5', 3' wind bump right behind you. No refracted waves on the wall. You can go right by Queens bath and impress the tourists…."

Race Report: Kaua’i Hoe Wa’a #2

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:18 +0000

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	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	01/28/19 #24307
	+
	+	After spending a week and a half on the beautiful island of Kaua’i, I had the opportunity to participate in a local race. I’ve been paddling fairly regularly this winter so, conditioning-wise, I felt pretty confident. Paddling the open ocean is a whole different dimension though. I was excited/anxious/nervous preparing for the race.
	+
	+	The course is 10.5 miles downwind around the southeastern corner of the island. The first mile angles across the swell and is complicated by rebound from the shoreline but after that it’s clean runs all the way to the finish.
	+
	+	There was an early start for the slower boats then the next 30 boats lined up to go. There was 27 OCs and three skis, myself, Dylan Thomas and Wes Da Silva. Dylan and Wes are the top (and pretty much only) ski paddlers on the island. My race strategy was to only go as hard as needed to pace the leaders and follow their lines and, hopefully, make a move close to the finish. As soon as the start whistle blew I went out at a pace around 95% of a Wednesday nighter start. Surprisingly, I quickly found myself in the lead. I figured my only advantages were going to be in the mixed/sloppy or flatfish conditions so I pushed hard for the next mile.
	+
	+	As the runs started to form my lead evaporated. The locals glided onto waves as I struggled to find the rhythm of the ocean. I was being pretty aggressive on the waves and felt like I was surfing well, but the way the locals were able to link waves and use so little energy was impressive. Eventually I was able to coordinate my timing and effort and managed to pull closer to Wes but Dylan had taken a favorable outside line and moved ahead of both of us. The two OC-1s out front, Kaiola and Tyrus, were basically untouchable downwind.
	+
	+	After the race there was plenty of food, drinks and story sharing. The whole paddling community on Kaua’i is incredibly supportive and friendly. Michael Wood has done a lot to build connections for paddlers to find accommodations and equipment. I highly recommend a visit to the island!
	+
	+	Results:
	+
	+	Second start: [[https://www.webscorer.com/racedetails?raceid=167668&did=182766\|https://www.webscorer.com/racedetails?raceid=167668&did=182766]]
	+
	+	First start:[[https://www.webscorer.com/racedetails?raceid=167668&did=182765\|https://www.webscorer.com/racedetails?raceid=167668&did=182765]]
	+
	+	KO
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	01/28/19 #24308
	+
	+	great write up. ever since my first San Fran race I've puzzled about the way to get the most out of waves. That first Champs there was a guy from Fiji who I had paced well until we got rideable waves coming back under the Golden Gate. I watched as he eased away on waves I could not see. He would go hard before the wave appeared under his boat. How. Did he do this by sense of smell? You said it well Kevin. There is a rhythm there somewhere. Last year's Gorge race was another education. The fast OC-1's worked the waves so well. I'm skeptical that someone can tell you or show you how to do this. My hunch is that you grow it, like another bone in your body. From hours and hours on the bigs.
	+
	+	rd
	+
	+	Nicholas Cryder\\
	+	01/28/19 #24309
	+
	+	Strong result KO. Way to represent.
	+
	+	"Paddling the open ocean is a whole different dimension though."
	+
	+	This this and this. Every time I hit the ocean, I feels like a whole other sport… yet it's a huge part of the DNA of what we actually do. Encourage everyone who's become competent in the bay or the Gorge to get actual ocean time to fully appreciate the true nature of our sport. You're missing out if you don't paddle in the ocean. The perfect "starter race for strong paddlers" in my opinion is the Ghostrider (Davenport to Santa Cruz), and I am hoping to attend again this spring. It's a chill non-race type vibe, with typically outstanding open ocean conditions and an epic beach party afterwards. It may be run in concert with the US surfski champs (still no race registration up as of this AM tho…).
	+
	+	As for technique; I don't pretend to do it very well, but I have always liked the idea of on-ramps, freeways and off-ramps. Here's a SUP video on the concept. Good stuff. Very practical. [[https://youtu.be/cJlgLO5CpkQ\|https://youtu.be/cJlgLO5CpkQ]]
	+
	+	Nicholas Cryder
	+
	+	Dennis Mowry \\
	+	01/28/19 #24312
	+
	+	Way to go Kevin, nice report.\\
	+	It's nice to see a 70 year old came in 16th.\\
	+	:D'Mow
	+
	+	michaelwood \\
	+	01/28/19 #24313
	+
	+	Kevin's somewhat humble and understated in his report. He crushed it considering it was only his 2nd run of his trip. The locals freaked out when he sprinted off the line through 6-7' haystacks for the first mile and left them behind. Another week on the water and they'd be chasing him.\\
	+	We had steady mid 20'sNNE gusts to 30+ the whole way ,NE ocean swell 8',E ocean swell3', with a 5'wind bump. Pretty sporty. Locals consider this the most difficult of the many Kauai runs. You also get plenty of reverb waves due large majority of coastline has steep cliffs.
	+
	+	Yeah Dennis, there's plenty of fast barnacles over here. Phillip Morgan who you noted got 17th in the race posted a 1:50 at the Gorge last year. A very inspiring and competitive group of older paddlers.
	+

Sprint Nationals Lake Lanier Georgia 2019

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:18 +0000

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	+	**Jonas for the win!\\
	+	John Rybczyk** \\
	+	08/07/19 #25298
	+
	+	Just in, Jonas Ecker wins Men's Junior K11000m National title by 0.076 seconds! Congratulations!
	+
	+	See you on water,
	+
	+	Johnr
	+
	+	Jonas Ecker \\
	+	08/07/19 #25299
	+
	+	Thanks for the support! The headwind was killer!!!\\
	+	Here is the winning margin!
	+
	+	Jonas Ecker
	+
	+	Denise Weeks \\
	+	08/07/19 #25300
	+
	+	Congratulations Jonas, and congrats to Abbey, Elena, and Emma and the other Lake Padden finishers.
	+
	+	Tom Swetish
	+
	+	08/07/19 #25301
	+
	+	Three national champions from BCKST today (Jonas, Elena, Abby). Plus a pile of other podiums.
	+
	+	Not too bad Coach Scoggins!
	+
	+	paul clement
	+
	+	08/07/19 #25302
	+
	+	Super news!\\
	+	Coach Scoggins may be the ring leader but a lot of credit should go to E’Lana, Tom, Simon for their time and expertise as well as the whole community for supporting BCKST.\\
	+	We are fortunate to have such talent in town.\\
	+	pc
	+
	+	Paul Reavley
	+
	+	08/07/19 #25303
	+
	+	I second all of the congratulations.
	+
	+	If you want to follow results you can look here:
	+
	+	ClockCaster - Results: ACA Sprint National Championships 8/7-8/10/2019
	+
	+	Bellingham has a ton of very accomplished young paddlers and plenty of up-and-comers.
	+
	+	I also noticed that our young women swept 1-3 in the K1 1000. Elena, Sierra, and Emma - Wow.
	+
	+	Kimberly Reeves \\
	+	08/07/19 #25307
	+
	+	That is so awesome!! Way to go!!
	+
	+	Sandy Gilliard \\
	+	08/08/19 #25310
	+
	+	Yes BCKST Team! Keeping Bellingham on the National map. Cheers…”sandy” G.
	+
	+	Jeff Hegedus
	+
	+	08/08/19 #25313
	+
	+	Wow! Congrats everyone, that's really amazing :)
	+
	+	Eric Grossman \\
	+	08/08/19 #25314
	+
	+	So awesome!!!!!!
	+
	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	08/08/19 #25316
	+
	+	Congratulations to all the Bham paddlers competing. Amazing accomplishments across the board! You are inspire the rest of us to push a little harder every time we practice. Thank you
	+

Kelowna, BC Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:18 +0000

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-	Kelowna is known for its active and strong paddling community who regularly compete in SUP, OC, and Surfski races all over the Pacific Northwest	+	Kelowna is an inland city known for its active and strong paddling community who regularly compete in SUP, OC, and Surfski races all over the Pacific Northwest

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surfskiwiki

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Vaikobi King & Queen of the Harbor 2019

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:19 +0000

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	+	\\
	+	**Go Ana go!\\
	+	Denise Weeks** \\
	+	11/30/19 #25703
	+
	+	Go to 1:01:10 in this video to watch Ana coming in strong and getting the best kudos one could hope for. The complete package indeed! And so encouraging to everyone coming into the sport. Great work, Ana.
	+
	+	{{youtube>GWFakdjPGxI?start=3670}}
	+

KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa Surfski

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 16 Nov 2025 13:54:26 +0000

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	* Barry Lewin: "What people don't realise when they look at the weather reports from Durban is that it isn't the most windy town, well it doesn't have to blow hard to get cooking downwind if the swell is running. The swell and wind combined make for big technical downwinds and the perfect place to hold both the national champs this year and then [[:races:races_south_africa#kwazulu-natal\|world champs in 2025]] . What makes Durban paddlers a little different is the same swell that creates great downwind, also creates solid surf. Every entry and exit through breaking waves which most of the world would think are crazy, but to those from Durban, its not just the norm, its paying homage to the sports history, tradition and heritage, surf is part of surfski here, and we love it. "		* Barry Lewin: "What people don't realise when they look at the weather reports from Durban is that it isn't the most windy town, well it doesn't have to blow hard to get cooking downwind if the swell is running. The swell and wind combined make for big technical downwinds and the perfect place to hold both the national champs this year and then [[:races:races_south_africa#kwazulu-natal\|world champs in 2025]] . What makes Durban paddlers a little different is the same swell that creates great downwind, also creates solid surf. Every entry and exit through breaking waves which most of the world would think are crazy, but to those from Durban, its not just the norm, its paying homage to the sports history, tradition and heritage, surf is part of surfski here, and we love it. "
	Durban Area Shorebreak		Durban Area Shorebreak
-	* Kira Bester commenting (paraphrased) on the shore break for the 2025 Durban area ICF world champs courses - "I'm a pretty good surfer but I got destroyed multiple times in my practice runs by the shore break, it gets pretty raunchy… and my saying that is something…you have to commit (to have a chance of success)"	+	* Kira Bester commenting (paraphrased) on the shore break for the 2025 Durban area ICF world champs courses - "I'm a pretty good at catching waves but I got destroyed multiple times in my practice runs by the shore break, it gets pretty raunchy… and my saying that is something…you have to commit (to have a chance of success)"
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	* [[https://youtu.be/SymqH2VZh3w\|Surfing the Mound in a double]], [[https://youtu.be/vSsaVQ1VE-Y\|Surfing the Mound in a V7]]		* [[https://youtu.be/SymqH2VZh3w\|Surfing the Mound in a double]], [[https://youtu.be/vSsaVQ1VE-Y\|Surfing the Mound in a V7]]
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Race Report LaConnor

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:21 +0000

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	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	02/02/19 #24319
	+
	+	A very fine race was had by all. Except maybe the handful of accidental swimmers. Lots of junk in the water, very fast outflow going. Before the race during 'warm-up' a feisty young lady in an OC-1 dumped while just sitting there. Probably looked at the shore line and misjudged vertical. She was cussin up a blue streak and being the kindly reserved gentleman that I am, I thought it was the cutest thing I ever saw. She was regular height, but slim. So not much body mass to take the shock. She knew what she was doing and got reseated. But this kinda set the tone for the day. Huge turnout. I think Rod said 103 entrants. Biggest La Connor race in my memory.
	+
	+	Rod set up for three wave start. Even then it was a tight pack for the last wave (OC's and Kayaks). With the current blowing through so hard I stayed way back. Too far as it turns out, I was way off the line when he pulled the trigger. Probably because he had the cleanest start line he was going to get. So right away one of the kids from Gig Harbor went over, lost paddle, boat and composure. He had the good sense to grab ahold of DK's boat (might as well have the best). So DK helped him out, probably would have anyway, but he had no choice really. And Charlie B. grabbed his paddle. So it looked pretty good as I took full advantage and snuck past the wreckage. But whoa doggies, Winnie in her OC-1 was cutting across the traffic and here was another fine mess. Turns out it was a dang log in the way. Ernie claimed it was somebodies amma. If so there were more than one of 'em floating about. I got rolling again and finally glimpsed my GPS to see steady 8 mph speeds. Everyone crisply thundered out to the turn piling. Some of us thinking, 'wait a sec... isn't it further out than this?" Jeff & Teresa K told me later they almost didn't turn. They were in front of the thundering herd with Team Nelson, John Mooney, Kevin, Jamie K, (and notice I wasn't in that pile.) Rumor is Jamie was first boat to finish.
	+
	+	Back in old barnacle herd, plenty of excitement. Big mess at the piling. The current was not flowing due West out there it was a harsh north to south flow. Easy to misjudge. If you didn't set up ahead of time (like Peter M, and maybe some other more sea-salty pilot types), then you got set hard into the piling. Up ahead of me I saw Mark get totally thrown to the greasy depths. I stopped until I saw he was going to nail the first re-entry, then bogied like a bastid to gain any advantage. It didn't work. He still clawed his way past me half-way back up the channel. That was a hard pull. I was seeing 4mph on my gps. And seeing LB pulling a slick inside line that allowed him to gap the gang of OC's chasing him. So basically the length of the race was farther than the distance of it. Or something. I got tired. Good to reconnect with all the old sound rower folks. Both Traci and Tracy got bling. Peter M got bling. Jonas E got bling. I got lots of cookies. totally worth it. can't eat bling.
	+
	+	The after race gloat party was in a neat covered area. Soups were over the top. First one gone was Shane Baker's clam chowder. He gave me the recipe but I have to kill myself if I tell anyone. Cookies were all hand made, none of the big box store stuff. Fun to see all the youthful enthusiasm for the sport. The Gig Harbor kids were all wearing team hats. Team Scoggins represented (Dad and Daughter) in HPK-2. Rumor is some of the newbies signed up Kayak, not knowing all the SR race division classifications. Extra shout out to John M for driving up from Eugene. We're not in Benton County any more Dorothy. whoo haaww!
	+
	+	Nap time for me.
	+
	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	02/02/19 #24320
	+
	+	Well said Reivers. For a flatwater race it sure was exciting! I was a little confused by the turn mark (isn’t it usually the green can?) but everyone seemed to go the same course so all good there. Congrats to Jamie Klein for topping a stacked HPK division and to Jonas Ecker for a standout performance. This guy is way past nipping at the heels of the leaders. He is currently eating grown men for breakfast and depositing their egos in the outhouse before lunch.
	+
	+	I took some screenshots of the results if you want a sneak peek before the officials come out later today.
	+
	+	Jonas Ecker \\
	+	02/02/19 #24321
	+
	+	Who knows what the turn mark is... Last year we turned around the pylons, at least everyone turned around the pylons I guess.\\
	+	Thanks for such an awesome race everyone!
	+
	+	Jonas Ecker
	+
	+	Kevin Olney
	+
	+	02/02/19 #24322
	+
	+	Official unofficial results:
	+
	+	https://www.webscorer.com/race?raceid=168461
	+

La Conner 2020

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:21 +0000

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	+	**La Conner Heads up\\
	+	Reivers Dustin** \\
	+	Jan 31 #25951
	+
	+	Over on FB race director Rod says he is working out alternate routes due to forecast conditions. I'm taking my phat boat and all my best safety stuff. I have never seen this stretch of water when things get large.
	+
	+	One thing Rod says is kinda cool. Don't get locked into race tunnel vision. If you get out there and it looks sketchy, turn it back around early and save your enthusiasm for the soup. That outside leg is exposed and I'm hearing from locals that with counter-flow (ebb current against West wind) it gets real jiggy.
	+
	+	Life is like a box of paddlers.
	+
	+	John Rybczyk \\
	+	Jan 31 #25952
	+
	+	Also, the rivers are very high (flood watch for the Skagit) and the race starts at about high tide…and it's a high one, + 8.5 feet. I was working down in Padilla Bay today and I think the Samish River and Edison Slough were about as high as I have ever seen them. I don't know what the heck that all means for the race, but be careful out there.
	+
	+	johnr
	+
	+	Duncan Howat \\
	+	Jan 31 #25953
	+
	+	Remember the year it was like this and it worked to just run it up the slew around a bouy or boat and back. Just like paddling the nooksack . But that was before Reivers was born.D
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	Jan 31 #25954
	+
	+	Was that the year of the logjam and whirlpools? I was born, but still very young back then. Had to use blocks on the pedals so I could reach.
	+
	+	Nicholas Cryder \\
	+	Jan 31 #25955
	+
	+	Can we pretty pretty prettttyy please have a race out into the conditions if we have the skills and sign away our life insurance policies??? I’m so sick of races getting neutered.
	+
	+	Also, three of us (Reavley, Klein and myself) did a run in the last hour of the day today as the conditions cranked up and it’s was glorious gun smoke from minute one. Maybe a little sketchy on final approach to the chocolate factory, but hey… enemy at the gates. Not sure why we went so hard, other than it being yet another powder day on the bay.
	+
	+	allipp@…
	+
	+	Feb 1 #25956
	+
	+	"Due to the strong winds forecasted, Saturday’s race course may be modified to stay in the protected waters of the Swinomish Channel."
	+
	+	Hmm, I'm tempted to stay home and get in a DW before the wind turns too westerly.
	+
	+	Michael Lee \\
	+	Feb 1 #25957
	+
	+	The race director is responsible for keeping paddlers safe. If a race is run in challenging conditions, inevitably someone will overestimate his/her ability and get into trouble.
	+
	+	If you prefer bumps over flatwater, hit the bay for a downwind run. Just don’t rag on the race director for making the safe call.
	+
	+	allipp@…
	+
	+	Feb 1 #25958
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	+	Unless his name is Peter Marcus and he's running the Bellingham Bay rough water race! Just kidding, just kidding.
	+
	+	paul clement \\
	+	Feb 1 #25959
	+
	+	I will donate awards free of charge to Alan and Nicholas’ upcoming downwind race. Shoot me a date and I’ll get on it.\\
	+	Paul
	+
	+	David Scherrer
	+
	+	Feb 1 #25960
	+
	+	Sitting here at Marine Park and man the waves are big breaking mixed and from the west. La Conner slew may be a good place to be presently. I imagine there could be plenty of debris. Look forward to race report. Heading for boat launch and the protection of Fairhaven bay. D
	+
	+	David Hooper \\
	+	Feb 1 #25961
	+
	+	Clearly I waited too long. Looks like a washing machine out there on the Post Point webcam. Have fun and be safe, David S.\\
	+	iKitesurf shows it's blowing 43 from the West at Fidalgo Island. More protected at La Conner, perhaps, but wow. Maybe Lipp and Cryder should go catch the falling tide at Deception Pass. I'll bet that will get them their ya-yas.
	+
	+	DH
	+
	+	Nicholas Cryder
	+
	+	Feb 1 #25962
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	+	I think Wilson and Co. are at Deception Pass and I expect it to be bonkers. Ya-yas for all!
	+
	+	David Hooper
	+
	+	Feb 1 #25963
	+
	+	We need a web cam at Deception Pass. I can't get there today, but I sure would like to watch. I hope they get some good footage - and share it with us!
	+
	+	D
	+
	+	Duncan Howat
	+
	+	Feb 1 #25964
	+
	+	Actually La Conner was a fun race,what with a rather very strong current, forcing you to be a river runner, much like doing the Nooksack at high levels. Wind was a factor both ways, and it was blowing.David you missed it as a chance to use those river skills, and yes I too look forward to the Downwinder put on by Allan and Nick with 30++ wind, anyone can sign up, and maybe one safety boat on the bay.Thanks to Rod for a great race and very good soup. That RD , shamelessly drafting me and ready to pounce at the end,but he was a gentleman and didn"t. But in truth I got a ride from John H. It all made a flat race fun. D
	+
	+	David Scherrer \\
	+	Feb 1 #25965
	+
	+	Results? looks like there were some fast doubles as well. Sorry I missed it, upstream river conditions add an interesting component. I probably would have tried to hang with you Dunc and ol'Reivers, swapping off color jokes and repeated stories! Heard the soup servings were great!
	+
	+	Big waves off dry dock this morning. Was behind Eric W. and watched him disappear below peaks. Downwind to Woods and back again. Coasties came out and watched us for a bit. Mike G. was out in his Zen and looking fast(er) and solid. Allen and Mike L out on the OC-2 ripping it up as well.\\
	+	D.
	+
	+	Nicholas Cryder \\
	+	Feb 1 #25966
	+
	+	We already did the big downwind race, y’all must’ve missed it, which is understandable because the first rule of winter downwind racing is… Nevermind. Promise to let you know next time, afterwards.
	+
	+	**La Conner Race….Windy, Calm, Lots of current….\\
	+	Pmarcus** \\
	+	Feb 1 #25967
	+
	+	Glad Rod got the race off! Thank you Safety Boats and volunteers!!
	+
	+	The Westerly had turned early and was blowing pretty well then it decided that wasn't enough and then "ramped" up even more right before the start, Smith Island just to the West a few miles. was recording puffs close to 50 but in the slough probably gusting to 30 but steady swirling 20 to 25??
	+
	+	…The start…well, the current was going so hard and with the wind that if you turned too early to set up for the start that you were back paddling with all your might to stay even. A bunch of racers actually turned into the current so they could hold still in one place right before the final horn, which got a few people out of position and it was a mad scramble to get going when the gun did go off. Bunch of Skis jumped into the lead with youngsters, but really fast youngsters, Jonas, etc and Double HPK's, Jason and Derek and Elena and Kevin and Igor and his partner leading the way. Followed closely by speedy Mike and Eric in an OC 2 and Peter Hirtle and partner in a 2 MX Shell. The current was rocking and added to 1.5 to 3 knots to your boat speed on the way out. Turn Mark was a Green Buoy about 2.5 miles North on the Slough. The wind tried to dampen and put you in a Dark Mood, one moment it was with you in a gust then 20 seconds later against you in a gust…
	+
	+	Once you turned the fun began..current and more current and then Neptune really was having fun, steady 25 in the face the last mile or so! Strategy was to get over to the West back and be about two feet off the shore and play what little back eddies and slower water was to have. You were weaving in and out of branches sticking out and submerged objects that an hour later would have been high and dry on the Ebb. Then Logs and Log Booms came into play, you could sort of hug behind some of the booms and logs to get a little advantage on the current but then at some point you had to get out into the uphill battle of the elements to get around them or cut inside of them. A few of us choose the latter and got lucky with a back eddy on the inside which made up for our lack of fitness, but also a little Carbon got left behind on a submerged Log Chain :(
	+
	+	The last 1/4 mile was snarly, 2 to 3 knot current and 20 plus wind in the face and strengthening…Kim R even said the quote of the day…her GPS alarm sounded off because it went into "PAUSE MODE!" Yes, the current was moving!! In the end, we all finished and were glad we did it…I think…and Paul C (Elastic Designs) made some STELLAR Awards for First Overall in Men's, Women's and Mixed. Rod and crew and safety boats had the soup machine going and thanked us all for racing and being a little crazy!!! Also a new award was presented to Rod and Peter H for participating in all Sound Rower Races last year….
	+
	+	Next up for SR is March 21 the Bellingham Bay Rough Water Race (can't make any promises Alan L :) )
	+
	+	Cheers!
	+
	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	Feb 1 #25972
	+
	+	Results:\\
	+	[[https://www.webscorer.com/racedetails?raceid=209331\|https://www.webscorer.com/racedetails?raceid=209331]]
	+
	+	lori & beau whitehead
	+
	+	Feb 1 #25968
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	+	Hopefully no one broke a rudder cable….
	+
	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	Feb 1 #25970
	+
	+	I paid stoopid tax at start (facing the wrong way). So there's Big D 1/4 mile ahead. My GPS showed 9.5 most of the first half and I gradually reeled Duncan in. Did another stupid at the turn - the current blew me right on by it. I measured current at the start sitting quiet watching my GPS: 4.0mph. It was really a trick to find back eddies. Some of the time you would get too shallow and even drag rudder on the mud. I reeled Duncan in, but had no beans left at the end.
	+
	+	Those log rafts were no joke. One time Duncan clipped the side of his boat and I got a little mental movie of how that would play if he fell off. There would be absolutely no way to swim out of that shit. Your boat would probably start rolling and your body would get sucked under. So the scenario would be if you can swim down, hold breath and avoid anchor chains well enough in that muddy water to pop out later. Oh yeah. Can you undo a leash while tumbling underneath logs at four mph current?
	+
	+	When I heard about Lampi getting snarled my little movie played over again. His boat is busted and rescue vessel hauled him and boat out. All those great shots of me coulda got wet.
	+
	+	So you wanna be a race director? I just think about the nice people who make this fun: not the big dogs. not the danger hogs. But the regular guys and gals that have the guts to try this crazy thing and don't have arms like the hulk. They don't do the gorge. They don't have swift water chops. They read my dumb posts and laugh and don't often post anything. OK, ok. I've gone into sheepdog mode and will fuss and fret about everyone getting their eye poked out. me shut up now.
	+
	+	Larry Bussinger \\
	+	Feb 1 #25971
	+
	+	The log boom scenario reminds me of the Around Manhattan Island (NY) race a while back when the two guys behind me went under the barge at the start in a 4 knot current. They rolled along the bottom and popped up 40 ft later on the downstream side. As they say, there isn't much interesting underneath a barge (or probably a log boom either).\\
	+	Larry B
	+
	+	La Conner Heads up & Deception Pass \\
	+	Paul Reavley\\
	+	Feb 1 #25969
	+
	+	Nice race descriptions. The only reason I caught Denise or stayed with Bob McB. on way back to bridge in La Conner was because I stayed closer to shore and caught more of the micro eddies on the way back to the finish. Michael Lampi apparently did some damage to one of his pontoon amas running into something. Sorry, Michael - but did you document it with photos?
	+
	+	On the tidal race front, initial report is that Deception was not deceiving - it was cranking. Wilson, Tom and Ana S. and DJ braved huge waves with telephone poles floating in the water. Ana says it was the biggest waves she has paddled and Wilson says he would say the same if he hadn't been to South Africa this winter. There should be video to view.
	+
	+	Michael Lampi \\
	+	Feb 2 #25973
	+
	+	I made the mistake of going inside the last two log booms. The second to last log boom was closed at the upstream end, so after a bit of effort managed to turn around and head back - and lost all that I had gained from going inside the previous log boom. I could see the last log boom exited with enough clearance, but it was too shallow and I managed to completely foul my propeller. I didn't recognize the danger of the current pushing towards the log boom and instead worked to clear the propeller. It was too late, and my boat was jammed against the log boom.
	+
	+	I should have tried to get the attention of the safety boat to have them pull me away from the log boom, but instead I decided to try other things. Meanwhile, several other racers paddled by asking if I needed help, but there was really nothing any of them could do.\\
	+	With a lot of effort I was able to slowly inch my way to the downstream end, but got stuck with the ama on one side of the piling and the hull on the other. I then tried to rotate the stern of the boat into the current, hoping to do a 180 degree turn. Unfortunately, the bow then got stuck against another log in the boom and the boat was now firmly wedged. Trying to back off eventually overtaxed the aluminum welds of the aka supports, and I now had two boats: the red hulled central boat and the amas. I was sitting with my butt in the water and legs over the front aka and my arm on the seat.
	+
	+	I finally waved my paddle and got the attention of the safety boat, and they came over and were able to pull me (sitting on the boat pieces) away from the log boom. It was a bit later when we tried to simply tow me back to the dock when the current caught the boat and amas and the force was too much for the akas. It's amazing how much those tubes can bend before they break!
	+
	+	Anyway, while I did take some photos of the finish while stuck, the only photos I took after boat disintegration were accidental, and don't show much of anything.
	+
	+	Thanks again to the wonderful Search and Rescue Team!
	+
	+	Kimberly Reeves \\
	+	Feb 2 #25974
	+
	+	Michael...
	+
	+	I am so sorry that your boat was terribly damaged and relieved it was just the boat. How can Whatcom Paddlers assist you in rebuilding your craft? Would a gofundme account help to mitigate costs? Just say the word...
	+
	+	Kim
	+
	+	Michael Lampi \\
	+	Feb 2 #25977
	+
	+	Hi Kim,
	+
	+	Thank you for your concern.
	+
	+	While I don't need any monetary support to repair my boat I can definitely use assistance in finding a reliable supplier of fiberglass tubing (1.365" OD by 0.070" wall or slightly more) in 42" (or thereabouts) lengths. The previous supplier I used (Nimbus Paddles) has gone out of business.
	+
	+	I would like to replace all 4 of my akas even though only one broke. The one aka I saw that was temporarily bent into a U didn't break but is likely to be compromised - and I didn't see how the others fared.
	+
	+	I have plenty of aluminum and did all the welding previously, so repair of the aka supports is not a problem.
	+
	+	Thanks again!
	+
	+	Michael Lampi
	+

La Conner - current & shallows

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Lake Chelan

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Lake Mille Lacs Downwind/Paddle Videos

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Lake Pepin

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Lake Superior

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	* [[https://youtu.be/MszFox3XCLk?t=801\|Ben Gravy Surf video]] 2024?		* [[https://youtu.be/MszFox3XCLk?t=801\|Ben Gravy Surf video]] 2024?
		+	* Tim Traynor about surfski surfing at Stoney Point: "Larger waves start farther out. The shelf at Stoney extends out close to 300 meters so on the biggest days the waves will start nearly out there. ... I was staying a bit to the left of the main surf area so I was in a little deeper water where the waves are slower to stand but can go critical and crash hard fairly close to shore on bigger days. I always surf left towards deeper water and try to keep the break to my right. The shallowest water I was in was probably 4-5 feet."
	* Canada/Ontario		* Canada/Ontario
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Lake Superior Cold Water Paddling

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	There may be days in the spring that are 70 and sunny but the water may still be in the 30s so I err on the side of caution and accept that I will probably get hot. Of course I can always dunk myself to cool down!\\		There may be days in the spring that are 70 and sunny but the water may still be in the 30s so I err on the side of caution and accept that I will probably get hot. Of course I can always dunk myself to cool down!\\
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-	I coolest air temp that I have done a downwind was a sunny day in the upper teens. If it is cloudy I generally won’t do a run colder than about 25 F. The problem becomes icing, I particularly worry about ice in the rudder line guide tubes. I have driven to launch only to find the rudder lines frozen inside the guides. I have shoved the stern end of my ski into my van to thaw the lines. Once I am in the water it is fine but if was really cold I could imaging them freezing up. This is why I recently picked up board surfing {{https://fonts.gstatic.com/s/e/notoemoji/15.0/1f3c4_200d_2642_fe0f/72.png?nolink&\|🏄‍♂️}}, so I could enjoy the waves no matter how cold it gets!\\	+	I coolest air temp that I have done a downwind was a sunny day in the upper teens. If it is cloudy I generally won’t do a run colder than about 25 F. The problem becomes icing, I particularly worry about ice in the rudder line guide tubes. I have driven to launch only to find the rudder lines frozen inside the guides. I have shoved the stern end of my ski into my van to thaw the lines. Once I am in the water it is fine but if was really cold I could imagine them freezing up. This is why I recently picked up board surfing {{https://fonts.gstatic.com/s/e/notoemoji/15.0/1f3c4_200d_2642_fe0f/72.png?nolink&\|🏄‍♂️}}, so I could enjoy the waves no matter how cold it gets!\\
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Lake Superior Downwind/Paddle Videos

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Lake Whatcom

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-	* [[https://tempestwx.com/station/34066/\|North Shore Rd]] North Shore Rd. about half way between Agate Bay and Smith Creek	+	* [[https://tempestwx.com/map/175266/48.6907/-122.3727/12\|Tempest Weather Stations Map]]
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Lake Whatcom Videos

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Laser lights versus flares?

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Latvia Surfski

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		+	* Salaca River
		+	* [[https://youtu.be/2AoyTrhP6Rg\|canoe trip video]]
	* [[https://idaadventures.com/places-for-kayaking-in-latvia/\|Six Places to Paddle in Latvia]]		* [[https://idaadventures.com/places-for-kayaking-in-latvia/\|Six Places to Paddle in Latvia]]
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Legs Out to Stay Upright

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Re: Length of the Lake race

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	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	07/08/19 #25170
	+
	+	So LG talks me into this. It'll be fun, he says. So we drive north. And we drive some more. Gosh, sure is a lot of trees up here. A lot of dead ones. There was pine beetle going on then. After a long while we get there and it's fun. We meet people who paddle and it all looks like the Great White North. Mark and Rick showed up like they were supposed to. We haggle over which team (LG & RD or Rick & Mark) do which legs. I just agree with everyone.
	+
	+	Don't remember who goes first, but it seemed like the first leg was a long ways. No wind, but they said it might take a while for wind. Then there's some more driving. Then there's some more paddling. The wind was contrary, but they said it sometimes is unpredictable. Then there's some more driving. Then some more paddling. This time it's … well. it's not normal. The wind is in our face. Not fierce wind, but the rollers are really big.
	+
	+	I'm in front. I'm thinking LG should lose some weight because I can't reach the water. Oh. That was a big wave. Cause then I'm up to my chest in water and LG is up in the air. We give over to Rick and Mark. We drive some more. Now that I'm able to look at the lake from the road. Whooley Shit Ahoy Mate. Big monster rollers going the wrong way. I don't look any more. we gotta do the last leg. I'm gasping for air when Mark and Rick come into the hand off. LG says, c'mon it'll be fun. we're in the lead. Hell. What am I gonna do .. walk home?
	+
	+	The last leg wasn't quite so big, but now we could see why the rollers were so big. That is one hell of a long lake. By this time I knew the routine. If I couldn't reach the water (because the boat was so launched on a wave) I just kept the stroke rhythm. I was tired. Nothing mattered. LG said when we landed we were supposed to "kiss the peach" at the end. Somebody needed to kiss my ass first by then. We staggered an shore and sure enough we finished first. Mark and Rick showed up late.
	+
	+	I guess they stopped by the morgue first since that was a higher probability. Found out later that there were many, many DNF's. A couple of OC-6's broke up and people had to be pulled out of the water. We get to the awards diner and people are kinda moving away from our table. We sat through quite a few OC awards, then finally they give first place finisher award. It was quite understated. They gave the four of us a bottle of imitation maple syrup.
	+
	+	I don't remember the ride home. I was hammered flat. Went to the doctor with weird pains. After the second visit he diagnosed Shingles. My wife is convinced I beat myself down enough for the opportunistic virus. If anyone is still reading, I like this race. If the winds would have been right, it would be epic. It was well organized, fantastic venue, fun people, and really a giant event. This should be on everyone's bucket list. Maybe towards the end.
	+

Erg racing....It's not just for Hamsters.

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	+	Larry Goolsby \\
	+	12/26/09 #7583
	+
	+	Back in November, Erik B. contacted me about joining a kayak ergometer racing club, specifically, a Kayakpro Speedstroke racing club. Last winter when were were snowed in, I bought a Speedstroke and paddled it a few times a week, and once spring arrived I let the thing sit in my basement through the summer and fall. I have to say that I did benefit from paddling the Speedstroke when it was too cold to hit the water so I was eager to join this club and see if this would take the boredom out of erg paddling. I have to admit, you have to 'enhance' your erg training with music or videos, or you'll just go nuts.
	+
	+	Since our machines were all a little different in performance, we weren't racing for the best time but rather who would improve the best over a 7 week race period. Each race was to be 5000 meters or 3.1 miles and we emailed our results in. After 4 weeks of doing this, I went and bought the new Speedstroke Gym and sold my 1 year old Speedstroke to Will Grenough (who I hope to see in virtual competition soon). The new Gym is quite a bit different than the old Speedstroke in that the old Speedstroke is almost entirely made of stainless steel while the new Gym has a plastic frame. The old model is made to last a really long time but lacked a sophisticated computer system. The new Gym has a computer that actually makes erg paddling interesting. The old computer basically showed you distance and speed (what more do you need?) while the new computer shows you cadence and heart rate. With the new computer, you set the distance that you want to go and when you start paddling, the timer starts while the odometer travels backwards towards zero. While this is happening, your heart rate and your cadence are posted side by side. If your cadence gets to high, your heart rate follows and you begin to wither. Once you reach the pre-determined mileage, the odometer and timer quit.
	+
	+	The cool thing is that you can now go online and race someone real time that also has a Gym with the same software. Our Gym's are made to connect through a PC and into the internet. We can race up to 10 ergs all at the same time and watch the progress with animated kayak paddlers on a computer monitor. If you aren't interested in racing someone else in real time, you can also do a time trial and register your time on a scoreboard located under the i-race icon at www.kayakpro.com. This way you can compare your times for 500m, 1500m, 5000m, or 10,000m against other paddlers around the world. If you know what time you need to beat, it makes it so much easier to push yourself towards that goal.
	+
	+	Since I got the Gym, my times for the 5000m have improved and I am looking forward to doing the 500m and the 10,000m real soon. I see this as a new sport with a lot of potential besides the fact that it will make you a stronger paddler. The only disadvantage is that that erg paddling will not improve your stroke since your speed is controlled upon your ability to keep the flywheel in motion. There is no drafting but then you don't need Pogies either. The new Gym computer does need your body weight uploaded so that it can compute drag so it makes it more 'even' when you race against other paddlers. Otherwise, us fat guys would rule since our weight wouldn't slow the machine down. I feel that after this winter is over, I will continue to use this new model of the Speedstroke even after the waters begin to warm back up. I am actually having fun while racing this thing.\\
	+	LG
	+

erg racing......

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:22 +0000

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	+
	+	Larry Goolsby \\
	+	11/21/10 #9675
	+
	+	As most of you know, I raced my Kayakpro Speedstroke through last winter. I even went as far as traveling to Oklahoma City for the US champs in February. We are racing once again this winter and I just finished this week's race of 5 2000 meter sprints with a 1 minute break in between (51:49.4). Todays performance was probably my best since last spring. I was having some weight issues but this is getting resolved. I started that new 'eat like a bird - shit like an elephant' diet and it seems to be working. I am going to attempt to bring my erg to the film festival tonight. There have been a few people that have wanted to try out the new Speedstroke Gym and my home is not located in a conveinent place to travel to. The thing that makes this new Speedstroke so much better than the original is the computer. It gives you a lap time, stroke rate, distance and heart rate. I am so busy watching the numbers that I don't bother turning on the TV anymore. So if you are interested in trying it out, come on down to the party.
	+
	+	LG
	+

Comments on Lifeproof case 2016

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:22 +0000

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	Life proof are water proof but u need to test them without the phone occasionally and clean and lube the gasket. They work best if you leave the phone in there always. The Epic bag works well if u want a soft case works better if u want to take it in and out every paddle. (//Editor's comment - Epic no longer sells soft phone case, but the same or similar is now sold as Gooper or GoBags - 6/2020//)		Life proof are water proof but u need to test them without the phone occasionally and clean and lube the gasket. They work best if you leave the phone in there always. The Epic bag works well if u want a soft case works better if u want to take it in and out every paddle. (//Editor's comment - Epic no longer sells soft phone case, but the same or similar is now sold as Gooper or GoBags - 6/2020//)
		+
		+	<WRAP indent>
		+
		+	Comment on Lifeproof case usability on water in 2014
		+
		+	Tom Swetish\\
		+	07/12/14 #15933
		+
		+	I always bring a VHF on bigger days, but often just bring my phone on smaller or flat days. //I discovered the other day that my phone in its Lifeproof case was 100% useless after I had spent 30 minutes in the water.// Not sure why. My old waterproof case worked fine. Maybe my fingers were cold? Maybe its just me? Either way, a heads up for anyone who is relying on a phone as a primary means of communication.
		+
		+	I would be interested in a radio clinic for sure. Honestly not sure I really know what to do with the thing if I really needed to use it.
		+
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lip_blushing

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Lithuania Surfski

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Local Paddling Conditions

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	* [[:weather\|]] (All aspects: storm, wind speeds and direction, temperature, visibility, predictability of moving systems, local micro effects not described by forecasts, etc.)		* [[:weather\|]] (All aspects: storm, wind speeds and direction, temperature, visibility, predictability of moving systems, local micro effects not described by forecasts, etc.)
-	* Flatwater Paddling It should be obvious that whether paddles on lakes and bays are flatwater, downwindable, or dangerous depends entirely on the weather. Storms can come up suddenly on bodies of water and quickly create unboatable conditions. Always be careful to consult weather forecasts, be aware of micro climate variations that can contradict such forecasts, don't trust weather forecasts that depend on the timing of nearby systems or storms that can move closer or faster than is being predicted, and have fast exit plans in the case of untimely wind and paddling conditions.	+	* Flatwater Paddling It should be obvious that whether paddles on lakes and bays are //flatwater, downwindable, or dangerous// depends entirely on the weather. Storms can come up suddenly on bodies of water and quickly create unboatable conditions. Always be careful to consult weather forecasts, be aware of micro climate variations that can contradict such forecasts, don't trust weather forecasts that depend on the timing of nearby systems or storms that can move closer or faster than is being predicted, and have fast exit plans in the case of untimely wind and paddling conditions.
	* [[:tides\|]]		* [[:tides\|]]
	* [[:wave_basics\|Waves]] , [[:wave_basics#wave_heights_in_weather_forecasts\|Wave Height Forecasts]]		* [[:wave_basics\|Waves]] , [[:wave_basics#wave_heights_in_weather_forecasts\|Wave Height Forecasts]]

Lock Rack Review

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:23 +0000

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-	Larry Bussinger\\	+	Larry Bussinger \\
	Jul 13 #27119		Jul 13 #27119

	So after all the dialog last week, I decided to buy the Universal Lockrack from REI. …mostly I wanted to see it but wanted to be able to return it. So, after 2 hours for this mechanical engineer to figure out how to put it on the car (really not that complicated, but just that many pieces) I found that the arm is 3" away from the Epic V-10L surfski! It would be 1" away from the phat V-9! Lockrack's Surfski version would still be an inch away from the V-10L. Also its only adjustable in 1" increments. i.e. It only works for one boat and has to be re-adjusted to fit another one. Plus they don't have a phone number. They don't answer email. Neat idea, but the execution is one of the worst I've seen. picture is attached.		So after all the dialog last week, I decided to buy the Universal Lockrack from REI. …mostly I wanted to see it but wanted to be able to return it. So, after 2 hours for this mechanical engineer to figure out how to put it on the car (really not that complicated, but just that many pieces) I found that the arm is 3" away from the Epic V-10L surfski! It would be 1" away from the phat V-9! Lockrack's Surfski version would still be an inch away from the V-10L. Also its only adjustable in 1" increments. i.e. It only works for one boat and has to be re-adjusted to fit another one. Plus they don't have a phone number. They don't answer email. Neat idea, but the execution is one of the worst I've seen. picture is attached.

-	{{ :equipment:lockrack.jpg?direct&300x400 }}	+	{{ :equipment:lockrack.jpg?direct&300x400 \|lockrack.jpg}}

Lockrack?

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:23 +0000

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	+
	+	Rick Lingbloom \\
	+	11/25/18 #24077
	+
	+	Anyone have experience with the “Lockrack” system? Pros / cons?\\
	+	Rick L
	+
	+	Paul Reavley \\
	+	11/25/18 #24078
	+
	+	FWIW - I have had the "universal" version lockrack for 6 months. It works for paddle boards and river canoes but the base is too wide for a surfski - there is a model specifically for skis. The rack base has a rubber cushion and I have occasionally tied down additional skis upside down against one rack arm with straps - which has worked fine for me while not going on the highway. Someone previously posted on the board about seeing many of them used with surfskis somewhere they visited, but obviously I cannot comment on the surfski specific model.
	+
	+	Universal model Pros:\\
	+	- works well for SUPs and river canoes\\
	+	- quick securing and releasing of watercraft on vehicle roof\\
	+	- base of rack has a decent rubber cushion that seems durable (so far for me)
	+
	+	Universal model Cons:\\
	+	- the spring loaded locking mechanism for the arms may be a little cheap - it seems balky at times and I worry about its durability although all of mine are working.\\
	+	- The locking mechanism does not seem difficult to foil at all in my opinion. I have not tried to do so because I don't want to break my rack, but I would not depend on the rack for any kind of theft prevention.
	+
	+	Dennis Mowry \\
	+	11/26/18 #24087
	+
	+	Richard Spork, rents Epics on Maui loves them.\\
	+	I looked into them but they would be to high for my already tall van.
	+
	+	If that helps?\\
	+	:D'Mow
	+
	+	Rick Lingbloom
	+
	+	11/27/18 #24088
	+
	+	Thanks for the input guys.\\
	+	Rick
	+

Extra Long Rudders And Skegs

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:23 +0000

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	On the other hand. DK has a crazy streak. He hides it well, but he does things with rudders that are mad science. Maybe your thoughts DK?		On the other hand. DK has a crazy streak. He hides it well, but he does things with rudders that are mad science. Maybe your thoughts DK?

-	waterbornewarrior \\	+	waterbornewarrior (//Don Kiesling - DK rudders//)**** \\
	Feb 7 #26001		Feb 7 #26001

Lotions and Potions

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:23 +0000

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	+
	+	**Skin Care\\
	+	Reivers Dustin** \\
	+	May 22 #26818
	+
	+	Being salt water soaked for many times per week is not good for skin. I've found coconut oil is cheapest/best and try to coat two or three times a week. I've used mineral oil, vasaline, etc. I used baby oil for a while, but the guys at work started being way too friendly. They put perfume in that stuff. I slather up after a shower, not so good to put on right before a paddle. If the oil doesn't have time to absorb there's big problem with gripping the paddle.
	+
	+	You kids might not think about this, but after seeing some weird growing stuff on my skin I took a hint. Now my skin is fresh and supple. I look like a 65 year old - fresh as a daisy. Maybe a plastic daisy, like you see in the back window of a car that hasn't been driven since the great depression.
	+
	+	rd
	+
	+	Dennis Mowry \\
	+	May 22 #26820
	+
	+	Inside out is another way, Drinking coconut oil straight up or like in coffee, plus some butter= bulletproof coffee. Bend in a raw egg for Mafatone's version, maybe with some cinnamon. Extra Avocado or olive on everything, salads, tuna fish, eggs, veggies. The concept is we are suppose to be well oiled machines versed running on fumes from to much sugar.
	+
	+	Getting used to it can be a bit challenging on the stomach but starting slow is doable.
	+
	+	:D'
	+
	+	Justin <eh.haole@...>
	+
	+	May 22 #26822
	+
	+	I've just stopped using soaps entirely. Let those natural oils develop 🐒
	+

Lower Back

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-	Lower back pain: causes, treatment, and prevention of lower back injuries and pain - Peter Attila conversation with Stuart McGill	+	Lower back pain: causes, treatment, and prevention of lower back injuries and pain - Conversation with Stuart McGill

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Lumbar Spine Discussion

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:23 +0000

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	+	Protecting the lumbar spine when starting out in a surfski \\
	+	David Feb 17 #31038
	+
	+	I am getting more interested in entering the sport of surfskiing after having an opportunity to try it out locally. I've been concerned about the strain on the low back as I have had a few lumbar spine issues in the past. With proper technique and slowly conditioning, has anyone with a more sensitive lumbar spine avoided irritating the back? Does sitting close to the level of the feet make it more likely that the back becomes irritated? How difficult is it to maintain the back in a good position (assuming I am in an appropriately stable ski and receive coaching on ergonomic form)? My goal would be to work towards enjoying paddling and getting a cardiovascular workout, while not injuring my back in the process. Thanks in advance for any advice and experience you can share!
	+
	+	John Rybczyk Feb 17 #31039
	+
	+	Hi David, I'm speaking anecdotally and as a non-health expert. I too have lumbar spine issues from a life-time of digging heavy soil cores out of salt marshes. I have found that surf ski paddling has greatly helped my back and in the near twenty years I've been paddling a surf ski, I've never hurt my back paddling. The one caveat...I HAVE re-injured my back more than once lifting my surf ski on an off my car.
	+
	+	johnr
	+
	+	Kevin Olney Feb 17 #31040
	+
	+	David,
	+
	+	In 10+ years of surfski paddling, it’s never caused any pain in my lower back… until I strained my back late last year. The injury was work related and not a result of paddling but I realized how important lower back strength is to surfski technique.
	+
	+	I couldn’t connect any torso rotation to leg drive and the micro-adjustments necessary for balance in rough conditions were incredibly painful. I was able to continue paddling at a lower effort and in a stable boat and got back to full speed workouts in about 6 weeks. Big thanks to Kerry at Prime Sports for getting me straightened out initially.
	+
	+	I’d definitely recommend consulting your PT about your specific injuries, but I don’t think paddling itself is dangerous to the lower back. Shoulders are a different story…
	+
	+	KO
	+
	+	David Feb 17 #31041
	+
	+	For shoulders, is using the torso rotation to generate power from big back muscles (in a loosely the way one might rotate while swimming the crawl) a way to avoid blowing out the shoulders?
	+
	+	Tatum Nolan Feb 18 #31042
	+
	+	David,
	+
	+	I’m responding as someone new to paddling, but old to lower back pain.
	+
	+	My sense is that there may be many different origins for lumbar pain, some of which would carry over to paddling, and others not so much. It may be that pain from compression (e.g. too many squats at some point) is very different from pain due to lack of mobility or flexibility. Stuart McGill has a terrific video on this.
	+
	+	I’d echo earlier feedback to see a PT. Not sure if this is allowed on this forum but Kerry Gustafson at Prime is pretty amazing. She’s a paddler for one, so she knows the biomechanics of our sport. But even more, she is incredibly comprehensive in treating the body as a system. I’ve seen many PTs (none in Bham), most of whom prescribed a generic course of back strengthening exercises. Kerry has gone very deep with me and has identified a handful of things I need to work on that had not been on my radar.
	+
	+	One of the unexpected benefits of starting to paddle is that it forced me to look at some body funkiness that I had begun to think of as chronic and intractable, and then use paddling as the activity to actually fix them. That has brought me lots of joy.
	+
	+	More experienced paddlers than me could also weigh in on seat pads. There are cushioned inserts that you can Velcro to your seat to encourage you to avoid slumping while paddling. Here’s a video on the use and installation. The tradeoff here would be some amount of balance due to riding higher.
	+
	+	Regarding shoulders: Who am I to offer instruction? But… you are right that rotation helps migrate the forces to the larger muscle groups, and away from the shoulders. Beyond that, the other important factors for me have been:
	+
	+	The relative position of my hand, elbow and shoulder particularly on the non-pull arm. This is a repetitive motion that can cause strain. What specific muscles am I using to do this simple motion? What is the relative height of each? At exit, am I lifting water or a dry paddle? Am I loading the shoulder of the upper hand unnecessarily?
	+
	+	The back muscles I use to activate my pull stroke. If there is a history of shoulder pain, there may be a history of muscle imbalance, overreliance on the wrong muscles to cover for others, and asymmetrical tightness. I just ported over my shoulder imbalances to paddling. But now I’m using paddling to fix those things.
	+
	+	The above is just my own biomechanics, but these are the kinds of things a good PT can help identify at the beginning and work through.
	+
	+	Lastly: work on technique before speed. There’s an amazingly supportive community of paddlers pushing everyone to their best. I should know better, but I’m drawn to this. And I just have to remember that until I have the right biomechanics and technique that’s hammered in through repetition and muscle memory on a nice wide boat, I’ll likely hurt myself if I push harder than I should be in the middle of a summer interval session. There’s lots of folks that can pull hard right at the start, but given your initial question, it may apply to you.
	+
	+	Good luck!
	+
	+	Tatum
	+
	+	Paul Reavley Feb 18 #31043
	+
	+	David,
	+
	+	As you can see from the responses you've already received, we have a great community of thoughtful paddlers who would like to see you successfully discover and sustain the great fun that one can have paddling a surfski.
	+
	+	A couple of additional remarks about seating setups:
	+
	+	I have heard anecdotally that some surfski seat bucket shapes tend to encourage slumping (a problem for me) more than others - your mileage may vary, but something to possibly observe in your own tests with multiple surfskis. Also at least one surfskier with back problems has reported increased trouble with lower seats - specifically the advanced ski - Kai Wa'a Vega. But many paddlers use this ski with no apparent problem, so again your mileage may vary.
	+
	+	One other point - whatever you may wind up working with in terms of seat padding and clothing - you want to make sure that hip rotation is facilitated i.e. your butt and hips can rotate easily with no restriction when you apply force with your feet - pushing with your stroke side leg/heel (and for many pulling with your off side leg with your offside foot lifting up against your foot straps facilitates rotation even more). If you generate this force with your legs but your hips and butt meet resistance/interference to rotation, you will probably be creating torque in your spine that you do not want. Usually the solution amounts to slick shorts/pants and seating and if necessary some slick tape covering your seat padding (acrylic, teflon, etc.).
	+
	+	Paul
	+
	+	David Feb 18 #31044
	+
	+	I can definitely see how working a good plan for transport is vital. Thank you for making me aware of that hazard, and for sharing your experience.
	+
	+	David Feb 18 #31045
	+
	+	I can relate to pain and disruption to life’s activities associated with a back injury, but am encouraged by your recovery and appreciate your sharing that here. I plan to make contact with Prime Sports, as you and others have commended their expertise and commented on the quality treatment provided. Thank you for the recommendation.
	+
	+	David Feb 18 #31046
	+
	+	Thank you very much for the detailed and thoughtful reply. I am actually reading a text by McGill now and find the recommendations sensible and rooted in his and others’ research findings. The video you recommended is now next up on my YouTube queue. Also I have made contact with Prime Sports and look forward to benefiting from their expertise; thank you for the recommendation. Slow and steady progress sounds like a plan for me.
	+
	+	David Feb 18 #31047
	+
	+	I am fortunate and thankful for all the people here generously sharing their expertise and experience learning and gaining mastery of the sport. Thank you for differentiating between different designs of seat buckets. I will pay special attention to that. The tip about creating a good interface that allows for easy rotation is great and, from my few paddling demos so far, makes a lot of sense. Thank you.
	+
	+	Holly Rasmussen Feb 19 #31048
	+
	+	As a new surfski paddler and a health professional (PT) I will echo others and add a few things here.
	+
	+	Rotational forces to the spine, if done correctly do not add compressional forces to the spine, but, in fact create the opposite effect. This is why core work is crucial to lumbar rehabilitation no matter the injury. The core of paddling gives the support and system balance the spine is craving to balance, heal or stay healthy. I could go on forever about this, but go look up the concept of tensegrity; it is exactly what balanced forces paddling does for your spine, and whole body.
	+
	+	And, yeah, get a good manual practitioner PT or other professional on board to assist with the asymmetries that lead to lumbar issues.
	+
	+	Holly
	+
	+	David Feb 19 #31049
	+
	+	Fascinating concepts related to the mechanics of rotation in spine treatment and ongoing maintenance. I am following up on and looking up tensegrity. (The Kurilpa Bridge in Brisbane shown on the Wikipedia page on the subject does naively look spine-like to my untrained eye.) I am planning on following up your suggestion to have a PT/health professional familiar with the sport on board. Thank the interesting and encouraging expert information .
	+
	+	Holly Rasmussen Feb 19 #31055 \\
	+	Here you go!
	+
	+	https://www.fusion-bodywork.com/fasciatensegrity.html
	+
	+	Certainly hit me up for any information or local recommendations for a PT.
	+
	+	Holly

Whatcom Classic

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:24 +0000

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	+	allipp@... \\
	+	05/04/19 #24785
	+
	+	Mahalo to Marc Blake for putting on a great event, and getting the results up fast! Here they are:
	+
	+	https://www.webscorer.com/race?raceid=178965
	+
	+	Marc Blake \\
	+	05/04/19 #24786
	+
	+	Mahalo to our awesome paddling community including super helpers/volunteers, Tom Prichard, Jill Komoto, Maddy Burnett and Paul Clement!
	+
	+	Marc
	+
	+	P.S. Brandon needs to be moved into the Male class for results. I'll take care of that once I'm at a computer.
	+
	+	If there are any other results quirks, shoot me an email.
	+
	+	David Scherrer
	+
	+	05/04/19 #24787
	+
	+	Thanks Marc for staging this event! The tamales were great along with the thirst quenching margaritas. Viva Cinco de Mayo!\\
	+	D
	+
	+	David Scherrer \\
	+	05/04/19 #24789
	+
	+	I thought for a bit that Greg B has set a new course record today at 1:31:53. Looking it up, going back as far as 2012, I see that he beat that time in 2016 by crossing the line at 1:30:10. The fastest time of any class boat.\\
	+	Amazing!
	+
	+	D
	+
	+	Kevin Olney \\
	+	05/05/19 #24790
	+
	+	The course record for Lk Whatcom was set by Tyler Peterson and Evan Jacobs in 2013. 1:24:17.2. That’s fast!!
	+
	+	Carter Johnson \\
	+	05/05/19 #24791
	+
	+	I would like to motion that for every additional year of experience that Greg Barton has obtained over 55, we need to handicap him the same amount of minutes. ;)
	+
	+	allipp@... \\
	+	05/05/19 #24793
	+
	+	Sorry, even with a 4 minute handicap he still would have beaten you and all other single skis!
	+
	+	paul clement \\
	+	05/05/19 #24798
	+
	+	Pretty sure handicaps work the other way. Greg would be well under 1:30:00. I respectfully motion he doesn’t need it.\\
	+	pc
	+
	+	Carter Johnson
	+
	+	05/05/19 #24805
	+
	+	You assume we believe we have any chance this year. 2022!!!!
	+

Lk Whathapnin - first liar

anonymous@undisclosed.example.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:49:24 +0000

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	+	Reivers Dustin \\
	+	May 2 #29130
	+
	+	Well, I normally don't prevaricate. But when I do ... I'm awesome.
	+
	+	It was quite something to see all the dozens of younger, smaller, better-looking versions of ourselves setting up for the race. Oak Harbor crew were impressive. A ton of supportive parents and kids.
	+
	+	Great race logistics - even the weather was good. Seems like we've done so many of these in the rain. Light steady southerly going so that meant a hard push down and hopefully a push back to the finish.
	+
	+	I set up behind the hot-shots and was trying to fix my mind on not over-extending. Twelve miles. Try to save something for the last half. At the start I watched the under-fifty kids go roaring off like it was a 500 meter sprint. But there was the Dean train just ahead! And I was riding caboose! life is good. Pretty soon I noticed some gap growing two boats ahead of me. I worked my way over two wakes just kinda hoping I could get close to the target wolf-pack. It was too much. I eased up and just tried to pace the pack. I was sagging by the time Sudden Valley came in view. But wait, there's an Epic boat pounding around without a number? It was Eric Gerstle. What a hoot! We chatted. He had to go to work and couldn't race, but wanted to look over the pain-train. I perked up a bit and made the wobbly lap around the island. Sure enough, nice push from the southerly breeze. It was a little too warm, but I had spent so much getting down there.
	+
	+	After a while an OC-1 caught up with me. Interesting surges back and forth due to the little runner waves. We chatted a bit. He had blown himself up in that same chase for the Dean train. I was able to get some wake as he pulled ahead of me. Brought me to the finish looking better than I had any right to. I finished just under two hours (which I celebrate). Same day results are fantastic. I also didn't feel terrible. Loved the burrito.
	+
	+	I got home feeling like a sixty year old kid. Sat on the couch for a chat with my lovely bride. We're talking away. Next thing I know it's two hours later, there's a crick in my neck and my throat is sore from sitting there in my sleep. This is the sign of a very good day.
	+
	+	Classic indeed.
	+
	+	**Lake Whatcom Classic\\
	+	tahalsted** \\
	+	May 2 #29131
	+
	+	Kudos to Marc Blake and the weather gods (great name for a punk band), and his mighty Pacific Multisports team of volunteers for putting together an awesome race yesterday!
	+
	+	I had a blast, and was happy with my under-52 minute time on the short course. I was nursing a slightly blown shoulder, so I was forced to work on technique, rather than my normal, testosterone-fueled splashing and cursing routine for most of the course. Oddly enough, my shoulder feels great today, so I guess I didn't just undo several weeks of PT work.
	+
	+	I was also blown away -- and humbled -- by the 40 or so, well organized and coached Gig Harbor team of kids. I still don't see how the sprint canoeists can stay upright while kneeling in those skinny boats (maybe the kneeling is a form of prayer to the gods involved in balance).
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	+	Cheers!
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	+	Tom Halsted
	+
	+	**Lake Whatcom photos now online\\
	+	Michael Lampi** \\
	+	May 2 #29133
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	+	The Lake Whatcom 2021 race photos are now online. The URL is http://www.soundrowers.org/racePhotos/2021/LakeWhatcom/index.html
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	+	Yes, I left too many photos in the album.
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	+	Again, these photos are free for personal use, and if you would like the original(s) just tell me the name/number of the photo(s) and I can e-mail them to you.
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	+	Enjoy!
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	+	Michael Lampi
	+
	+	**Lake Whatcom Classic Wrap-up\\
	+	Marc Blake** \\
	+	May 3 #29135
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	+	It was an incredible and inspiring weekend at the Sound Rowers and Paddlers Lake Whatcom Classic! Over 100 boats of all kinds powered by young and old (ranging from 9 to 85 - and every age in between). You amazing athletes showed us the power of showing up with grit and good humor, ready to compete! THANK YOU!!!
	+
	+	Before we get to the awards highlights, I have some more gratitude to dish out. First off, I would like to say a huge THANK YOU to Brooke Larrabee. From marketing and communications to registration and timing, she does it all for Pacific Multisports. Without her, we would not have been able to pull off a successful event.
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	+	Also on the huge THANK YOU list are our superstar volunteers: Chris Ohana, Neil Bransfield, John Rybczyk, and Kim Reeves. All are community-oriented folks, who bring event and paddling experience and jumped in to support on race day wherever needed.
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	+	Thank you to Whatcom Search and Rescue who provided incredible race day support including buoy and tracking device placement/retrieval.
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	+	Behind the scenes, I leaned heavily on Kevin Olney, Peter Marcus, and Glenn Gervais for race directing logistics and support right up to and on race day. Thank you!
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	+	Several racers and spectators (Tim and Tom among them) also volunteered help on race day. Thank you.
	+
	+	Big thanks to our sponsors (who also competed):\\
	+	Prime Sports Institute (Erica Quam) - Categoriy winners, reach out to Prime to claim your prize.\\
	+	Elastic Laser (Paul Clement) - Top soloists overall win the Bathymetric maps. Top 3 in each category get place awards. All designed and produced by Paul at Elastic Laser. Pacific Multisports will get these awards to the winners.
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	+	Thank you to Brandon Nelson Partners for the buoy sponsorship of the event, always coming through with local event support.
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	+	Thank you to Jalapeno's for hooking up the burritos. A pleasure to work with.
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	+	Thank you to the City of Bellingham (Aquatic Invasive Specials team, Parks and Recreation) and Whatcom County for their support.
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	+	Thank you once again to photographer (and winner of the Pedal Boat division), Michael Lampi. Here's a link to some of the awesome photos he took.
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	+	THANK YOU to all of the clubs that came out. We loved the spirit you brought to the event! Special shout out to Aaron Laird, Alyson Morse and the rest of the Gig Harbor Canoe & Kayak Racing Team for supporting the event with 40+ racers as well as the support boat.
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	+	Ancient Mariners Rowing Club\\
	+	Ballard Elks Paddle Club\\
	+	Gig Harbor Canoe & Kayak Racing Team\\
	+	Bellingham Bay Outrigger Paddlers\\
	+	Lady OARS Racing Team\\
	+	Lake Washington Rowing Club\\
	+	Rat Island Rowing and Sculling Club\\
	+	Rikkole Cree Canoe Club\\
	+	Sand Point Outrigger Canoe Club\\
	+	Ultimate Warrior Canoe Club\\
	+	UNAT Rowing Club\\
	+	Whatcom Paddlers\\
	+	Whatcom Rowing Association
	+
	+	Finally, this event would not have been possible without the Sound Rowers and Paddlers organization and Leadership. Thank you!
	+
	+	\\
	+	Now for some award highlights:
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	+	Top 3 overall:\\
	+	Long Course:\\
	+	1 - Jonas Ecker (HPK - Surfski)\\
	+	2 - Storb/Storb/Bernard/Jenkins (4x-OW - Open Water Quad)\\
	+	3 - Olney/Clement (HPK-2 - Surfski)
	+
	+	Short Course:\\
	+	1 - Dietz/ (2x-OW - Open Water double)\\
	+	2 - Fradley/Robinson (2x-Flatwater - Flat water racing double)\\
	+	3 - Welker /Perry (2x-Flatwater - Flat water racing double)
	+
	+	Top solo winners (Male/Female)*:\\
	+	First Solo Female - Long Course - Erica Quam\\
	+	First Solo Male - Long Course - Jonas Ecker
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	+	First Solo Female - Short Course - Zoe Libner\\
	+	First Solo Male - Short Course - Erik Wermus\\
	+	*No other gender categories were registered.
	+
	+	Full Results can be found at: https://pacificmultisports.com/results/lakewhatcomclassic2021/
	+
	+	We're already looking forward to seeing you all next year at the Lake Whatcom Classic!
	+
	+	Marc Blake - Race Director\\
	+	Lake Whatcom Classic
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	Great job Marc and volunteers.		Great job Marc and volunteers.

-	Michael LampiMay 8 #31575	+	Lake Whatcom Classic Wrap-up

-	The race photos are now online at http://www.soundrowers.org/racePhotos/2022/LakeWhatcom/index.html	+	Marc Blake May 9 #31580
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-	Marc BlakeMay 9 #31580	+

	Congratulations and thank you to everyone who raced the Sound Rowers and Paddlers' Lake Whatcom Classic!		Congratulations and thank you to everyone who raced the Sound Rowers and Paddlers' Lake Whatcom Classic!
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	Extra special thanks to Sandy Gillard and Ana Swetish for volunteering at the timing tent.		Extra special thanks to Sandy Gillard and Ana Swetish for volunteering at the timing tent.

-	Results highlights	+	Results highlights

	Dave Deschenes crushed the short course to take first place in his 1x flatwater rowing shell (what he calls his "cheater boat") despite having to backtrack a little at the finish.		Dave Deschenes crushed the short course to take first place in his 1x flatwater rowing shell (what he calls his "cheater boat") despite having to backtrack a little at the finish.
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	It was a tight race up front in the long course with the open water quad powered by Cody Jenkins, Kelton Jenkins, Adrianne Storb and Rainer Storb managing to keep speed through the final turn and out sprint the two HPK-2s. Top 3 boats finishing within 7 seconds of each other.		It was a tight race up front in the long course with the open water quad powered by Cody Jenkins, Kelton Jenkins, Adrianne Storb and Rainer Storb managing to keep speed through the final turn and out sprint the two HPK-2s. Top 3 boats finishing within 7 seconds of each other.

-	Top 3 overall:	+	Top 3 overall:

-	Long Course:	+	Long Course:

	1 - Cody Jenkins/Kelton Jenkins/Adrianne Storb/Rainer Storb (4x-OW - Open Water Quad)		1 - Cody Jenkins/Kelton Jenkins/Adrianne Storb/Rainer Storb (4x-OW - Open Water Quad)
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	1 - David Deschenes (1x-Flatwater - Flat water racing single)		1 - David Deschenes (1x-Flatwater - Flat water racing single)
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	3 - Jeff Hilburn (HPK - Surfski Single)		3 - Jeff Hilburn (HPK - Surfski Single)

-	Top Long Course solo (Bathymetric maps) winners:	+	Top Long Course solo (Bathymetric maps) winners:

	First Solo Female - Long Course - Tenar Hall		First Solo Female - Long Course - Tenar Hall
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	Always good to get Reivers' race report (aka "lies") right away. Any other good stories out there? We would love for you to share your race reports with us.		Always good to get Reivers' race report (aka "lies") right away. Any other good stories out there? We would love for you to share your race reports with us.

-	Full Results at: https://pacificmultisports.com/results/lakewhatcomclassic2022/	+	Full Results at: [[https://pacificmultisports.com/results/lakewhatcomclassic2022/\|https://pacificmultisports.com/results/lakewhatcomclassic2022/]]

-	More Sound Rowers' events at: https://www.soundrowers.org/race-schedule/	+	More Sound Rowers' events at: [[https://www.soundrowers.org/race-schedule/\|https://www.soundrowers.org/race-schedule/]]

	See you all soon!		See you all soon!
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	Apologies and super special thanks to Michael Lampi for once again delivering on race photos!!!		Apologies and super special thanks to Michael Lampi for once again delivering on race photos!!!

-	Full gallery here: https://soundrowers.org/racePhotos/2022/LakeWhatcom/index.html	+	Full gallery here: [[https://soundrowers.org/racePhotos/2022/LakeWhatcom/index.html\|https://soundrowers.org/racePhotos/2022/LakeWhatcom/index.html]]

	Michael, Thank you for always being there to photograph our events AND racing! No one else can get those shots.		Michael, Thank you for always being there to photograph our events AND racing! No one else can get those shots.
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	Hanging around with folks at these races is a great way to catch up and appreciate our community.		Hanging around with folks at these races is a great way to catch up and appreciate our community.
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	Brandon Nelson back on the water again! When Denise and Erica swang wider around the island than Brandon did, he hollered at them to come back over and get on his draft again and waited for them!		Brandon Nelson back on the water again! When Denise and Erica swang wider around the island than Brandon did, he hollered at them to come back over and get on his draft again and waited for them!

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	I can't even BEGIN to say how fun it was to be back out there paddling and racing again!		I can't even BEGIN to say how fun it was to be back out there paddling and racing again!
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	Thank you to the organizers and safety, to Michael for the awesome photos, and to Erica and Denise for being such good company!		Thank you to the organizers and safety, to Michael for the awesome photos, and to Erica and Denise for being such good company!

-	I felt like a million bucks until about mile 9... and then in the span of about 6 strokes the wheels just fell off. :)	+	I felt like a million bucks until about mile 9… and then in the span of about 6 strokes the wheels just fell off. :)

-	That's what I get for taking such a long break... but it will make it that much more fun clawing back into shape.	+	That's what I get for taking such a long break… but it will make it that much more fun clawing back into shape.

	Super, super appreciate how gracious everyone was. I love the paddling tribe and it was an honor to be out there with you all!		Super, super appreciate how gracious everyone was. I love the paddling tribe and it was an honor to be out there with you all!

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	* [[https://www.surfskifun.com/\|Surfski Fun]] Hungary, [[https://kanuschule-bodensee.ch/\|Kanuschule Bodensee]] also Nelo (Lake Constance, Switzerland)		* [[https://www.surfskifun.com/\|Surfski Fun]] Hungary, [[https://kanuschule-bodensee.ch/\|Kanuschule Bodensee]] also Nelo (Lake Constance, Switzerland)
	* [[https://wetiz.eu/de/\|Fenn (Zacki Surf & Sport)]] German Rep		* [[https://wetiz.eu/de/\|Fenn (Zacki Surf & Sport)]] German Rep
-	* [[https://www.kayak-connection.at/\|Kayak Connection]] Nelo, Mazu	+	* [[https://www.kayak-connection.at/\|Kayak Connection]] Nelo, Mazu, NK
	* [[https://www.facebook.com/NELO-Austria-312646135823015/\|Nelo Austria (Facebook)]]		* [[https://www.facebook.com/NELO-Austria-312646135823015/\|Nelo Austria (Facebook)]]
	* [[https://www.liteventure.de/\|Stellar]] (Germany, Switzerland, Austria)		* [[https://www.liteventure.de/\|Stellar]] (Germany, Switzerland, Austria)

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	* [[https://www.cnhorta.org/\|Clube Naval da Horta]]		* [[https://www.cnhorta.org/\|Clube Naval da Horta]]
-	* [[https://www.facebook.com/clube.nauticolagoa/?locale=pt_BR\|Clube Náutico da Lagoa]]	+	* [[https://www.facebook.com/clube.nauticolagoa/?locale=pt_BR\|Clube Náutico da Lagoa (facebook)]]
	* [[https://www.facebook.com/clubenavalpv/?locale=pt_BR\|Clube Naval da Praia da Vitória (facebook)]]		* [[https://www.facebook.com/clubenavalpv/?locale=pt_BR\|Clube Naval da Praia da Vitória (facebook)]]
	* [[https://cnpdl.pt/\|Clube Naval de Ponta Delgada]]		* [[https://cnpdl.pt/\|Clube Naval de Ponta Delgada]]

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-	* [[https://gekodivebali.com/en/\|Geko Dive Bali - Padang Bai]] this is primarily a diving website. Cedric Saveuse reports that while there are not many surfskis in Bali as of 2022, there are some at Geko Dive Bali.	+	* [[https://gekodivebali.com/\|Geko Dive Bali - Padang Bai]] this is primarily a diving website. Cedric Saveuse reports that while there are not many surfskis in Bali as of 2022, there are some at Geko Dive Bali.
	* [[https://www.totalsup.com/news/where-to-stand-up-paddle-in-bali-davide-codottos-sup-guide/\|SUP Guide to Bali]] this guy says that Bali isn't great for downwinding because of the irregular coastline and unfavorable prevailing wind directions.		* [[https://www.totalsup.com/news/where-to-stand-up-paddle-in-bali-davide-codottos-sup-guide/\|SUP Guide to Bali]] this guy says that Bali isn't great for downwinding because of the irregular coastline and unfavorable prevailing wind directions.

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	* Once in a blue moon Bellingham Bay may get strong enough wind swell to create some shore surf, but it is rare. South winds can sometimes also build a little bit of shore waves at the northern beaches in the Bay.		* Once in a blue moon Bellingham Bay may get strong enough wind swell to create some shore surf, but it is rare. South winds can sometimes also build a little bit of shore waves at the northern beaches in the Bay.
-	* There are a few fairly dedicated board surfers who seem to find more frequent opportunities at [[:birch_bay#surfing\|Birch Bay]]. And if you want to start to practice getting in and out of shore break, Birch Bay can be one place to start that more frequently has a bit of shore break, but is almost always just moderate.	+	* There are a few fairly dedicated board surfers who seem to find more frequent opportunities at [[:birch_bay#surfing\|Birch Bay]]. And if you want to start to practice getting in and out through shore break, Birch Bay can be one place to start that more frequently has a bit of shore break, but is almost always just quite moderate in comparison to places around the world that employ surf lifesavers.
	* [[https://youtu.be/XmEBifLrTIU\|2016 Surf at Marine Park Video]]		* [[https://youtu.be/XmEBifLrTIU\|2016 Surf at Marine Park Video]]
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	* [[https://dansprint.com/vare-kategori/dansprint-ergometer/\|Dansprint]] dominant system world-wide. Danish. €3450 Eur. many options incl. computer. High quality, durability suited for heavy use. Reference: Ben Fast. Dansprint also makes an erg that converts between kayak and canoe styles.		* [[https://dansprint.com/vare-kategori/dansprint-ergometer/\|Dansprint]] dominant system world-wide. Danish. €3450 Eur. many options incl. computer. High quality, durability suited for heavy use. Reference: Ben Fast. Dansprint also makes an erg that converts between kayak and canoe styles.
	* [[https://paddle-lab.com/nelo-dansprint-basic-platform.html\|Nelo seat platform for Dansprint]]		* [[https://paddle-lab.com/nelo-dansprint-basic-platform.html\|Nelo seat platform for Dansprint]]
-	* <del>[[https://kayakfirst.com/en/\|KayakFirst]]</del> Hungarian based, Kayak ergometer €1399 Eur. Also have SUP and canoe ergometers. <font inherit/inherit;;#c0392b;;inherit>Out of Production? - Either that or their website needs work (1/13/2024)</font>[[https://www.facebook.com/kayakfirst\|Facebook Page]]	+	* [[https://kayakfirst.com/en/\|KayakFirst]] Hungarian based, Kayak ergometer €1399 Eur. Also have SUP and canoe ergometers. Website can be flaky [[https://www.facebook.com/kayakfirst\|Facebook]]
	* KayakPro earlier version was the "Speedstroke" U.S. $2650 U.S. many options incl. computer. High quality, durability suited for heavy use. References: E. Borgnes, L. Goolsby.		* KayakPro earlier version was the "Speedstroke" U.S. $2650 U.S. many options incl. computer. High quality, durability suited for heavy use. References: E. Borgnes, L. Goolsby.
	* [[https://www.kayakpro.com/kayakcanoe/\|Compact]] Compactible for easier storage/space management		* [[https://www.kayakpro.com/kayakcanoe/\|Compact]] Compactible for easier storage/space management
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	* [[https://olddanube.com/shop/\|Old Danube]] canoe and kayak ergs		* [[https://olddanube.com/shop/\|Old Danube]] canoe and kayak ergs
-	* <del>[[https://paddleone.com/\|Paddle One ]]</del>Web site down? and out? $1,575 Canadian. Stop watch/Speedometer - no computer. Durable but not as realistic of a paddling motion. Reference: R. Dustin	+	* <del>[[https://paddleone.com/\|Paddle One ]]</del> Web site down? and out? $1,575 Canadian. Stop watch/Speedometer - no computer. Durable but not as realistic of a paddling motion. Reference: R. Dustin
	* [[https://polledokayak.com/kayak-ergometro-polledo/\|Polledo Ergometer]] Spain (we don't know anything about this one)		* [[https://polledokayak.com/kayak-ergometro-polledo/\|Polledo Ergometer]] Spain (we don't know anything about this one)
	* [[https://stroke2max.com/\|Stroke2Max]] $1139 US dollars. South African Co.		* [[https://stroke2max.com/\|Stroke2Max]] $1139 US dollars. South African Co.
	* [[https://vasatrainer.com/\|Vasa]] discontinued their paddle ergometer, but we have heard of DIY'ers modifying their swim ergos into paddle ergos		* [[https://vasatrainer.com/\|Vasa]] discontinued their paddle ergometer, but we have heard of DIY'ers modifying their swim ergos into paddle ergos
	* [[https://youtu.be/kW0iSOvdGlg\|Vasa Technique and Training Video]]		* [[https://youtu.be/kW0iSOvdGlg\|Vasa Technique and Training Video]]
-	* <del>[[https://www.weba-sport.com/en/\|Weba Sport Ergometer]]</del> Web site also seems verschwunden Austria, price ?, swiveling seat	+	* <del>[[https://www.weba-sport.com/en/\|Weba Sport Ergometer]]</del>Web site also seems verschwunden Austria, price ?, swiveling seat

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	* Paddlesport US		* Paddlesport US
-	* <del>[[https://www.paddlesporttraining.com/kayak-paddling-adapter/\|Kayak Adapter Kit]]</del> They no longer seem to be making this one	+	* <del>[[https://www.paddlesporttraining.com/kayak-paddling-adapter/\|Kayak Adapter Kit]]</del>They no longer seem to be making this one
-	* [[https://www.paddlesporttraining.com/canoe-paddling-adapter/\|Canoe Adapter Kit]] * [[https://surfski.info/forum/17-equipment/20421-opinions-on-paddlesport-systems-kayak-adapter-for-concept2-ski-erg.html\|Surfski.info discussion]] (remember - they just make the canoe adapter now)	+	* [[https://www.paddlesporttraining.com/canoe-paddling-adapter/\|Canoe Adapter Kit]] * [[https://surfski.info/forum/17-equipment/20421-opinions-on-paddlesport-systems-kayak-adapter-for-concept2-ski-erg.html\|Surfski.info discussion]] (remember - they just make the canoe adapter now)
	* KaHa Australia		* KaHa Australia
	* [[https://kahapaddletrainer.com/\|KaHa Canoe Adapter]]		* [[https://kahapaddletrainer.com/\|KaHa Canoe Adapter]]