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| ===== Missing Padder Located ===== | ===== Missing Padder Located ===== | ||
| **Dennis Mowry** \\ | **Dennis Mowry** \\ | ||
| - | May 2 #26627 | + | May 2 2020 #26627 |
| After paddling down to Whiskey Rock a group of paddlers turned for the return trip. Arriving at Marine Park noticed one was missing and over due, while his vehicle was still there. | After paddling down to Whiskey Rock a group of paddlers turned for the return trip. Arriving at Marine Park noticed one was missing and over due, while his vehicle was still there. | ||
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| **lori & beau whitehead** \\ | **lori & beau whitehead** \\ | ||
| - | May 4 #26655 | + | May 4 #26655 |
| The little miss-communication this weekend with a "lost paddler/not-lost paddler" has gotten the paddling community under a bit of a microscope at the moment. | The little miss-communication this weekend with a "lost paddler/not-lost paddler" has gotten the paddling community under a bit of a microscope at the moment. | ||
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| And that is exactly what is supposed to happen. Normally. But these days, that process puts a ton of added stress on already stressed first responders and 911 system. | And that is exactly what is supposed to happen. Normally. But these days, that process puts a ton of added stress on already stressed first responders and 911 system. | ||
| - | So, the battalion chief in charge of our fireboat is grumbling about our activities. And I can tell you, it won't take much of a conversation between himself, the Coast Guard and the mayor to put an end to what we all have been taking for granted. | + | So, the battalion chief in charge of our fireboat is grumbling about our activities. And I can tell you, it won't take much of a conversation between himself, the Coast Guard and the mayor to put an end to what we all have been taking for granted. |
| So what's the answer? I don't know. Don't be f$%king stupid comes to mind, but I'm plenty guilty of that myself. | So what's the answer? I don't know. Don't be f$%king stupid comes to mind, but I'm plenty guilty of that myself. | ||
| - | Yesterday at MP looked like a race was happening. (oh wait....) Parking lot was completely full (once again, one of those cars was mine.) | + | Yesterday at MP looked like a race was happening. (oh wait….) Parking lot was completely full (once again, one of those cars was mine.) |
| - | Just some thoughts to mull over and I'm sure prompt some discussion. But we are under the microscope as of now. | + | Just some thoughts to mull over and I'm sure prompt some discussion. But we are under the microscope as of now. |
| **Michael Lee** \\ | **Michael Lee** \\ | ||
| - | May 4 #26656 | + | May 4 #26656 |
| Thanks Beau. The word is out. | Thanks Beau. The word is out. | ||
| - | While rigging my OC at Wildcat Cove on Saturday afternoon, a park ranger came over and said, “the Coast Guard has already rescued one of you guys today”. A not-so-subtle suggestion that paddling in gusty winds might be a bad decision. I proceeded to launch my OC2 and paddled down the bay with my 12 year-old son. | + | While rigging my OC at Wildcat Cove on Saturday afternoon, a park ranger came over and said, “the Coast Guard has already rescued one of you guys today”. A not-so-subtle suggestion that paddling in gusty winds might be a bad decision. I proceeded to launch my OC2 and paddled down the bay with my 12 year-old son. |
| So, yeah, I’m part of the problem. | So, yeah, I’m part of the problem. | ||
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| **Paul Reavley** | **Paul Reavley** | ||
| - | May 4 #26660 | + | May 4 #26660 |
| Thanks Beau, | Thanks Beau, | ||
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| It seems to me like the potential for negative attention from calling out our rescue squads (is it perceived more negatively if someone actually has to be rescued or if it is a dry run?) is a greater risk than our visibility now on the Bay on great days like Sunday. Or am I wrong? | It seems to me like the potential for negative attention from calling out our rescue squads (is it perceived more negatively if someone actually has to be rescued or if it is a dry run?) is a greater risk than our visibility now on the Bay on great days like Sunday. Or am I wrong? | ||
| - | My impression is that there were a lot of folks outdoors on Sunday all over the place around Bellingham. Ultimately it looked to me like laps would have been more fun than racing (for me) anyway. All of the time trial virtual racing has certainly provided some low profile competition. But I suppose some of avid racers don't feel like they have been getting enough of the real deal? I can certainly lay off of races official or otherwise for the time being. | + | My impression is that there were a lot of folks outdoors on Sunday all over the place around Bellingham. Ultimately it looked to me like laps would have been more fun than racing (for me) anyway. All of the time trial virtual racing has certainly provided some low profile competition. But I suppose some of avid racers don't feel like they have been getting enough of the real deal? I can certainly lay off of races official or otherwise for the time being. |
| It was kind of novel having a local "downwind" race. There has been discussion over the years on this board about trying to have organized downwind races on the Bay (open scheduling like the Gorge, etc.) and the Bellingham Bay Rough Water race is advertised specifically to not cancel unless conditions are very rough. Maybe this kind of relatively low key impromptu affair ("incidental group time trial") is the way to go as long as the conditions and numbers involved are manageable. When things return to normal around here, I would hope we can consider having some similar non-races in the future. | It was kind of novel having a local "downwind" race. There has been discussion over the years on this board about trying to have organized downwind races on the Bay (open scheduling like the Gorge, etc.) and the Bellingham Bay Rough Water race is advertised specifically to not cancel unless conditions are very rough. Maybe this kind of relatively low key impromptu affair ("incidental group time trial") is the way to go as long as the conditions and numbers involved are manageable. When things return to normal around here, I would hope we can consider having some similar non-races in the future. | ||
| - | **Justin <eh.haole@...>** \\ | + | **Justin <eh.haole@…>** \\ |
| - | May 4 #26661 | + | May 4 #26661 |
| As the drop-in bloke who went his own way unannounced, causing doubt and a large muster for a non-rescue, I can say I have learned: | As the drop-in bloke who went his own way unannounced, causing doubt and a large muster for a non-rescue, I can say I have learned: | ||
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| If another kook like me shows up in a techy ski and doesn't arrive back in time, I agree that there is a significant chance they are in trouble. Or any ski. | If another kook like me shows up in a techy ski and doesn't arrive back in time, I agree that there is a significant chance they are in trouble. Or any ski. | ||
| - | Maybe newcomers like me are supposed to earn a little experience and then volunteer to be on unofficial kook watch every once in a while. Keep your eye on that new guy... they could be like you were | + | Maybe newcomers like me are supposed to earn a little experience and then volunteer to be on unofficial kook watch every once in a while. Keep your eye on that new guy… they could be like you were |
| **paul clement** | **paul clement** | ||
| - | May 4 #26662 | + | May 4 #26662 |
| Thanks Beau\\ | Thanks Beau\\ | ||
| - | It’s good to get the inside scoop. These are interesting times and I think we would all do well to park and paddle in ones or twos. I have avoided Marine Park and Galbraith Mountain for some time. Sunday I intentionally paddled out of the harbor and but for a couple minutes near other people at the tunnel it was solo paddle. It helps that I am one of the few folks that can tolerate hanging out with me...\\ | + | It’s good to get the inside scoop. These are interesting times and I think we would all do well to park and paddle in ones or twos. I have avoided Marine Park and Galbraith Mountain for some time. Sunday I intentionally paddled out of the harbor and but for a couple minutes near other people at the tunnel it was solo paddle. It helps that I am one of the few folks that can tolerate hanging out with me…\\ |
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| **David Scherrer** | **David Scherrer** | ||
| - | May 4 #26663 | + | May 4 #26663 |
| I hear you Beau. Perhaps for the immediate future, we mix it up a bit and relieve the visual pressure off Marine Park. Example, on Tuesday morning we all meet at Blodel for a distance paddle of sorts.\\ | I hear you Beau. Perhaps for the immediate future, we mix it up a bit and relieve the visual pressure off Marine Park. Example, on Tuesday morning we all meet at Blodel for a distance paddle of sorts.\\ | ||
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| **Tyler Irwin** \\ | **Tyler Irwin** \\ | ||
| - | May 4 #26664 | + | May 4 #26664 |
| I spoke with one of the Park Rangers on Sunday when we were launching from Larrabee and they said that the park gate will be open starting tomorrow! Probably subject to change of course now that everything seems to change day-to-day. | I spoke with one of the Park Rangers on Sunday when we were launching from Larrabee and they said that the park gate will be open starting tomorrow! Probably subject to change of course now that everything seems to change day-to-day. | ||
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| **Kimberly Reeves** | **Kimberly Reeves** | ||
| - | May 4 #26666 | + | May 4 #26666 |
| - | Thanks for the heads up Beau...\\ | + | Thanks for the heads up Beau…\\ |
| - | I’ve been trying for weeks to be on the down low with paddling. Trying to find odd times, different launches, different bodies of water, limited surfing and no social media posts. | + | I’ve been trying for weeks to be on the down low with paddling. Trying to find odd times, different launches, different bodies of water, limited surfing and no social media posts. |
| It’s frustrating that because of impatience and our general need to see each other, that access may be at risk. | It’s frustrating that because of impatience and our general need to see each other, that access may be at risk. | ||
| - | I do not want loss of access to the bay...please, no more races, no more paddling outside of your skill set and pack a radio and cell phone to message your buddies that you’re fine so that they are not calling the CG when you are fine and resting on the beach... | + | I do not want loss of access to the bay…please, no more races, no more paddling outside of your skill set and pack a radio and cell phone to message your buddies that you’re fine so that they are not calling the CG when you are fine and resting on the beach… |
| **David Hooper** \\ | **David Hooper** \\ | ||
| - | May 5 #26672 | + | May 5 #26672 |
| Hi Justin,\\ | Hi Justin,\\ | ||
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| It's worth a few minutes before a group paddle to check to see who else has a radio and whether they plan to have it on or not. And doing a quick radio check once on the water while getting going is a good idea too. That's tricky, if you're new, and don't know anyone.\\ | It's worth a few minutes before a group paddle to check to see who else has a radio and whether they plan to have it on or not. And doing a quick radio check once on the water while getting going is a good idea too. That's tricky, if you're new, and don't know anyone.\\ | ||
| Getting a few phone #s is a good idea too, but similarly tricky in a new situation.\\ | Getting a few phone #s is a good idea too, but similarly tricky in a new situation.\\ | ||
| - | if it's possible to buddy up, and have at least one person looking out for you and you for them, that's a good thing. Because, as you point out, if you happen to get behind a group and can't catch up for whatever reason - gear issues, clothing issues, health issues - and no one waits, there's not much you can do. But, again, that would've been pretty impossible in your new situation. In fact, buddying up seems pretty difficult in any big amorphous group, especially with different levels of skill, amp, etc. Not that we should stop trying...\\ | + | if it's possible to buddy up, and have at least one person looking out for you and you for them, that's a good thing. Because, as you point out, if you happen to get behind a group and can't catch up for whatever reason - gear issues, clothing issues, health issues - and no one waits, there's not much you can do. But, again, that would've been pretty impossible in your new situation. In fact, buddying up seems pretty difficult in any big amorphous group, especially with different levels of skill, amp, etc. Not that we should stop trying…\\ |
| embarrassment, etc. - yeah, stakes are a little higher now with the pandemic scrutiny, but all of us have had similar stuff happen at some point or another (goes along with dropping boats, leaving gear, etc.); maybe some have just been luckier with timing. | embarrassment, etc. - yeah, stakes are a little higher now with the pandemic scrutiny, but all of us have had similar stuff happen at some point or another (goes along with dropping boats, leaving gear, etc.); maybe some have just been luckier with timing. | ||
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| **Reivers Dustin** | **Reivers Dustin** | ||
| - | May 5 #26673 | + | May 5 #26673 |
| - | man, what to wear... I'm going to start another topic thread on this one. | + | man, what to wear… I'm going to start another topic thread on this one. |
| - | Radio: I've struggled for years with this. I tried so hard to find PLB, Epirb or other satellite based. There might be something new since I've looked, but satellite latency is bad news for paddler overboard. The other choice would be cell phone. Doing a 911 call is horrible. But I hear that if you have coast guard dispatch number programmed in, AND if you have solid cell coverage, this is fastest, best emergency response. For myself, that is not good enough. I don't trust the coverage. My view is that radio is not for talking to anyone but the coast guard. This is the last line of defense. It's fine if other boat traffic hears and responds. I've seen this work: Deb B got a civilian boater who was really, really good at managing her situation. But, generally I have concerns about most civilian help. | + | Radio: I've struggled for years with this. I tried so hard to find PLB, Epirb or other satellite based. There might be something new since I've looked, but satellite latency is bad news for paddler overboard. The other choice would be cell phone. Doing a 911 call is horrible. But I hear that if you have coast guard dispatch number programmed in, AND if you have solid cell coverage, this is fastest, best emergency response. For myself, that is not good enough. I don't trust the coverage. My view is that radio is not for talking to anyone but the coast guard. This is the last line of defense. It's fine if other boat traffic hears and responds. I've seen this work: Deb B got a civilian boater who was really, really good at managing her situation. But, generally I have concerns about most civilian help. |
| - | I was kind of a zealot about the "Rescue 21" program which the new generation of DSC (Digital Select Calling) VHF radios have. This is on line at Bellingham Coast Guard and if you push the panic button, they will get Lat/Long plus vessel ID via encoded digital transmission. You still use the hand-held normally, but it is also auto-generating digitally to equipped stations until THEY turn it off or the battery dies. Nowadays I'm not so sure DSC is worth the extra weight and cost to a paddler. It turns out coasties are not that smooth with this tech. Instead you can just "Mayday" from anywhere in Puget Sound and you'll be heard. The real thing here is about the last mile. All the stuff in the books about mirrors, flares, smoke, water dye, ... even reflective clothing, etc. This stuff is not what you bet your life on. You want your voice in the ear of the guy driving the ambulance (C.G. rescue vessel). Nothing else comes close. The Saffa guys (Surfski.info) did some drills on visibility and it was disturbing, but in fact you guys already know this. Just recall all those conversations with the guy next to you when you see something a mile away: "Is that a duck?", "I can't tell ... maybe it's a crab pot." "holy crap, it's a boat!, lets surf the wake!" Just realize this: the radio is the last rope you have. You basically buy the best dang one you can, then work hard to never need it. | + | I was kind of a zealot about the "Rescue 21" program which the new generation of DSC (Digital Select Calling) VHF radios have. This is on line at Bellingham Coast Guard and if you push the panic button, they will get Lat/Long plus vessel ID via encoded digital transmission. You still use the hand-held normally, but it is also auto-generating digitally to equipped stations until THEY turn it off or the battery dies. Nowadays I'm not so sure DSC is worth the extra weight and cost to a paddler. It turns out coasties are not that smooth with this tech. Instead you can just "Mayday" from anywhere in Puget Sound and you'll be heard. The real thing here is about the last mile. All the stuff in the books about mirrors, flares, smoke, water dye, … even reflective clothing, etc. This stuff is not what you bet your life on. You want your voice in the ear of the guy driving the ambulance (C.G. rescue vessel). Nothing else comes close. The Saffa guys (Surfski.info) did some drills on visibility and it was disturbing, but in fact you guys already know this. Just recall all those conversations with the guy next to you when you see something a mile away: "Is that a duck?", "I can't tell … maybe it's a crab pot." "holy crap, it's a boat!, lets surf the wake!" Just realize this: the radio is the last rope you have. You basically buy the best dang one you can, then work hard to never need it. |
| - | Oh yeah. I have never been able to talk to another paddler using my radio. I can't hear them, they don't seem to hear me, I usually need both hands to keep my ass out of the soup, AND a surfski is about the worst rescue vessel I can think of. But, OC boats have proven themselves awesome rescue platform. If I had a personal handler like some rich guy, I would make them paddle an OC boat next to me wherever I go. That would be a nice layer of safety. Oh well. | + | Oh yeah. I have never been able to talk to another paddler using my radio. I can't hear them, they don't seem to hear me, I usually need both hands to keep my ass out of the soup, AND a surfski is about the worst rescue vessel I can think of. But, OC boats have proven themselves awesome rescue platform. If I had a personal handler like some rich guy, I would make them paddle an OC boat next to me wherever I go. That would be a nice layer of safety. Oh well. |
| - | Oh yeah again> Michael M mentioned this morning. On this particular call we maybe should have done a "Pan, Pan, Pan" to CG, then ask for a welfare check on paddler X. This might have de-escalated the response to something more appropriate. I really hope we keep good rapport with the CG. \\ | + | Oh yeah again> Michael M mentioned this morning. On this particular call we maybe should have done a "Pan, Pan, Pan" to CG, then ask for a welfare check on paddler X. This might have de-escalated the response to something more appropriate. I really hope we keep good rapport with the CG.\\ |
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| - | **Justin <eh.haole@...>** \\ | + | **Justin <eh.haole@…>** \\ |
| - | May 5 #26675 | + | May 5 #26675 |
| I got a Nautilus LifeLine GPS/AIS/DSC for drift & tidal diving a while back. I haven't used it in any emergencies, but as far as I understand it will broadcast your position over VHF distress channels. In "test mode" it will put your position onto the screen of a live boat's receiver that is pre-programmed into the beacon. I can confirm that it fits into my PFD pocket along with a strobe & whistle. I'll be carrying that for open water paddles. | I got a Nautilus LifeLine GPS/AIS/DSC for drift & tidal diving a while back. I haven't used it in any emergencies, but as far as I understand it will broadcast your position over VHF distress channels. In "test mode" it will put your position onto the screen of a live boat's receiver that is pre-programmed into the beacon. I can confirm that it fits into my PFD pocket along with a strobe & whistle. I'll be carrying that for open water paddles. | ||
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| **Reivers Dustin** | **Reivers Dustin** | ||
| - | May 5 #26676 | + | May 5 #26676 |
| - | That SafeTrx looks fantastic. They were going to use it at a race I heard about off the coast of Cornwall (U.K). But people didn't turn it on, didn't download it, there were probs with coverage, etc. Was this the app they were trying to us at Hong Kong race? | + | That SafeTrx looks fantastic. They were going to use it at a race I heard about off the coast of Cornwall (U.K). But people didn't turn it on, didn't download it, there were probs with coverage, etc. Was this the app they were trying to us at Hong Kong race? |
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| **Jonas Ecker** \\ | **Jonas Ecker** \\ | ||
| - | May 5 #26677 | + | May 5 #26677 |
| Both Ana and I use SafeTRX for bay paddles. It’s super easy to set up, once you have your info in you can start an activity, set how often you want your location to be reported and then share your tracking info via text link. | Both Ana and I use SafeTRX for bay paddles. It’s super easy to set up, once you have your info in you can start an activity, set how often you want your location to be reported and then share your tracking info via text link. | ||
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| SafeTRX add another layer of security and safety if something does happen, and it keeps my mom happy! | SafeTRX add another layer of security and safety if something does happen, and it keeps my mom happy! | ||
| - | **Justin <eh.haole@...>** | + | **Justin <eh.haole@…>** |
| - | May 5 #26679 | + | May 5 #26679 |
| The SafeTrx function and participation level was pretty good for the 20 Beaches event. Seems like a great idea for open water events with large attendance, as it shows the safety crew where to run their sweep without missing stragglers. | The SafeTrx function and participation level was pretty good for the 20 Beaches event. Seems like a great idea for open water events with large attendance, as it shows the safety crew where to run their sweep without missing stragglers. | ||
| - | https://flotilla.safetrxapp.com/events/op/20beaches | + | [[https://flotilla.safetrxapp.com/events/op/20beaches|https://flotilla.safetrxapp.com/events/op/20beaches]] |
| I'm not sure if it was the app or my non-race fitness, but a chase boat was never far away. Intense heat and large quartering seas refracting off of the cliffs for 20km. The pros and regular racers smashed it anyway, of course. | I'm not sure if it was the app or my non-race fitness, but a chase boat was never far away. Intense heat and large quartering seas refracting off of the cliffs for 20km. The pros and regular racers smashed it anyway, of course. | ||
| **Eric Grossman** \\ | **Eric Grossman** \\ | ||
| - | May 5 #26680 | + | May 5 #26680 |
| When I work on the water I have to file a Float Plan. Of course the govt makes it onerous but details lead to safety. | When I work on the water I have to file a Float Plan. Of course the govt makes it onerous but details lead to safety. | ||
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| What if we had a techy colleague build a brief web-based form as likely as part of Whatcom Paddlers that folks could access your quickly file a float plan (esp on iffy days) AND we all come up with a rotation schedule to volunteer to be on call in case something goes south. We might even have capacity among our collective group to have a boat ready, maybe invest in a slip at the harbor to respond. | What if we had a techy colleague build a brief web-based form as likely as part of Whatcom Paddlers that folks could access your quickly file a float plan (esp on iffy days) AND we all come up with a rotation schedule to volunteer to be on call in case something goes south. We might even have capacity among our collective group to have a boat ready, maybe invest in a slip at the harbor to respond. | ||
| - | In the least we could help intercept cases when S&R or CG would not need to be mobilized if a change in plan or less threatening assistance could be communicated to the volunteer watching over the float plan. I could volunteer a day a month to monitor/closeout floatplans- likely only need this on windy days or by new folks learning about environmental conditions (winds, currents). Signage at key beaches could direct folks to the float plan. | + | In the least we could help intercept cases when S&R or CG would not need to be mobilized if a change in plan or less threatening assistance could be communicated to the volunteer watching over the float plan. I could volunteer a day a month to monitor/closeout floatplans- likely only need this on windy days or by new folks learning about environmental conditions (winds, currents). Signage at key beaches could direct folks to the float plan. |
| A tool like this might improve our reputation with safety and communications, comfort the authorities and protect our privilege to paddle. | A tool like this might improve our reputation with safety and communications, comfort the authorities and protect our privilege to paddle. | ||
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| **David Hooper** | **David Hooper** | ||
| - | May 5 #26682 | + | May 5 #26682 |
| Sorry, I should clarify about my radio rationale, in response to Reivers: | Sorry, I should clarify about my radio rationale, in response to Reivers: | ||