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-=====11/​7/​23 ​Westerlies ======+===== Westerlies ​11/7/23 ===== 
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 +(This is just a discussion about forecasts and conditions - no actual trip report)
  
 **Reivers Dustin** 11/06/23 #34679 **Reivers Dustin** 11/06/23 #34679
  
-I'm feeling poopie about tomorrow'​s West Wind. The whole bay gets full of rebound due to reflected waves. All you stout youngsters can go tear off a piece and post up about it.\\ +I'm feeling poopie about tomorrow'​s West Wind. The whole bay gets full of rebound due to reflected waves. All you stout youngsters can go tear off a piece and post up about it.
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-Duncan Howat\\ +
-11/06/23 #34680\\ +
-Sounds like a electric powered leaf blower to me. Or it could just get nasty.\\ +
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-Eric Grossman\\ +
-11/06/23 #34681\\ +
-Do you mean with these? Surely it will be good between Governors and Wildcat - with perhaps extra energy coming through Hales Passage! otherwise Birch Bay.+
  
-toggle quoted messageShow quoted text+**Duncan Howat** \\ 
 +11/06/23 #34680
  
-–\\ +Sounds like a electric powered leaf blower to meOr it could just get nasty
-Eric EGrossman, PhD\\ + 
-Research Geologist, U.S. Geological Survey\\ +**Eric Grossman** ​\\ 
-Pacific Coastal and Marine Science Center\\ +11/06/23 #34681 
-Tribal Liaison, USGS Natural Hazards Mission Area\\ + 
-Dept. of Geology, Western Washington University\\ +Do you mean with these? Surely it will be good between Governors and Wildcat ​with perhaps extra energy coming through Hales Passage! otherwise Birch Bay
-516 High St, MS 9080, Bellingham, WA 98225\\ + 
-360-650-4697 (office) 831-234-4674 (cell)\\ +**DThompson 11/06/23 #34682**
-email: egrossman@…\\ +
-[[http://​walrus.wr.usgs.gov/​climate-change/​lowNRG.html|http://​walrus.wr.usgs.gov/​climate-change/​lowNRG.html]]\\ +
-[[https://​walrus.wr.usgs.gov/​coastal_processes/​cosmos/​puget/​index.html|https://​walrus.wr.usgs.gov/​coastal_processes/​cosmos/​puget/​index.html]]\\ +
-[[http://​coralreefs.wr.usgs.gov/|http://​coralreefs.wr.usgs.gov/​]]\\ +
-[[http://​puget.usgs.gov/​|http://​puget.usgs.gov/]]+
  
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-ooooo EXCUSE ME I DON'T MEAN TO IMPOSE, BUT I AM THE OCEAN ooooo\\ +[[https://​www.facebook.com/​groups/​BirchBayPaddlers/​permalink/​2611411612368752/?​mibextid=2JQ9oc|https://​www.facebook.com/​groups/​BirchBayPaddlers/​permalink/​2611411612368752/?​mibextid=2JQ9oc]] 
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-D. Thompson 11/06/23 #34682\\ +**Reivers Dustin** 11/06/23 #34683 
-[[https://​www.facebook.com/​groups/​BirchBayPaddlers/​permalink/​2611411612368752/?​mibextid=2JQ9oc|https://​www.facebook.com/​groups/​BirchBayPaddlers/​permalink/​2611411612368752/?​mibextid=2JQ9oc]]\\ + 
-Reply Like More\\ +Birch Bay might get rock-a-hula. Lots of fetch across Straights of Georgia. As far as Wildcat - Governors, that's a north-south line. no good in a Westerly. real good in a Norther. 
-Reivers Dustin 11/06/23 #34683\\ + 
-Birch Bay might get rock-a-hula. Lots of fetch across Straights of Georgia. As far as Wildcat - Governors, that's a north-south line. no good in a Westerly. real good in a Norther.\\ +**Dan Mayhew** 11/06/23 #34684 
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-Dan Mayhew 11/06/23 #34684\\ +I've had some nice paddles in Westerlies. Straight out to the weather buoy near the south end Portage Island and surf back to MP. Am I missing something that is privy to our our more experienced paddlers? Does it turn nasty over a certain mph? 
-I've had some nice paddles in Westerlies. Straight out to the weather buoy near the south end Portage Island and surf back to MP. Am I missing something that is privy to our our more experienced paddlers? Does it turn nasty over a certain mph?\\ + 
-Reply Like More\\ +**Reivers Dustin** 11/06/23 #34685 
-Reivers Dustin 11/06/23 #34685\\+
 I just have childhood trauma issues. There'​s a waveshape because they develop and run straight into the bowl shape of the bay, then rebound back out so they get short and steep with some noise mixed in. Tomorrow is actually light air, so it's not so bad (if it stays light air). But if it gets some steady 20 plus, it becomes a shit-show off any vertical shorelines (like drydock, the wall, etc.) I just have childhood trauma issues. There'​s a waveshape because they develop and run straight into the bowl shape of the bay, then rebound back out so they get short and steep with some noise mixed in. Tomorrow is actually light air, so it's not so bad (if it stays light air). But if it gets some steady 20 plus, it becomes a shit-show off any vertical shorelines (like drydock, the wall, etc.)
  
-But maybe its just me that it doesn'​t like.\\ +But maybe its just me that it doesn'​t like. 
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-Eric Grossman\\ +**Eric Grossman** \\ 
-11/06/23 #34686\\+11/06/23 #34686 
 It seems the graphic I emailed earlier didn’t transmit, does this one show wind speeds (green color) and directions (arrows)? This is 1-km HRDPS forecast for tomorrow at 1000 local time, 16Z. Winds predicted to decrease after.\\ It seems the graphic I emailed earlier didn’t transmit, does this one show wind speeds (green color) and directions (arrows)? This is 1-km HRDPS forecast for tomorrow at 1000 local time, 16Z. Winds predicted to decrease after.\\
 Eric Eric
  
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 +**Dan Mayhew** 11/07/23 #34687
  
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-Dan Mayhew 11/07/23 #34687\\ 
 Probably should consider the Nooksack flow into the chaos factor. It's at around 7 ft today, which doesn'​t sound excessive. Probably should consider the Nooksack flow into the chaos factor. It's at around 7 ft today, which doesn'​t sound excessive.
  
 The wind predictions have come down so we could be looking at fun waves with some playfulness near shore. Of course optimism can lead you into a real s#+*show on the bay. The wind predictions have come down so we could be looking at fun waves with some playfulness near shore. Of course optimism can lead you into a real s#+*show on the bay.
  
-See some of you at 10.\\ +See some of you at 10. 
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-1 Person liked this\\ +**Reivers Dustin** 11/07/23 #34688 
-Reivers Dustin 11/07/23 #34688\\+
 This forecast is very different than "​Igetwind",​ "​Ikitesurf",​ or "​Bellingham Kiteboarding"​ Those are showing dead Westerlies, not NorthWester. This forecast is very different than "​Igetwind",​ "​Ikitesurf",​ or "​Bellingham Kiteboarding"​ Those are showing dead Westerlies, not NorthWester.
  
-This should be interesting to see what actually happens.\\ +This should be interesting to see what actually happens. 
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-Eric Grossman\\ +**Eric Grossman** \\ 
-11/07/23 #34689\\+11/07/23 #34689 
 Looks like a very different story in BBay vs Birch Bay! So interesting and complex to forecast here.\\ Looks like a very different story in BBay vs Birch Bay! So interesting and complex to forecast here.\\
-image0.png+{{  :​weather:​birchbaywebcam.jpg?​direct&​500x230 ​ |birchbaywebcam.jpg}} 
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 +**Paul Reavley** \\ 
 +11/07/23 #34690 
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 +The Birch Bay webcam hasn't updated for me since 9:19 but it looks like it is rocking there. European model indicates it will still be good until at least about 2 pm. 
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 +**Duncan Howat** \\ 
 +11/07/23 #34691
  
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-Paul Reavley\\ 
-11/07/23 #34690\\ 
-The Birch Bay webcam hasn't updated for me since 9:19 but it looks like it is rocking there. European model indicates it will still be good until at least about 2 pm.\\ 
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-Duncan Howat\\ 
-11/07/23 #34691\\ 
 Just finished battling that big west wind towards portage fight against 4 inch waves going out about 3 1/2 miles out turned and caught the 2 inch waves coming back with maybe no wind however the water is gray from the Nooksack so that’s troubling other than that\\ Just finished battling that big west wind towards portage fight against 4 inch waves going out about 3 1/2 miles out turned and caught the 2 inch waves coming back with maybe no wind however the water is gray from the Nooksack so that’s troubling other than that\\
 a great morning a great morning
  
-toggle quoted messageShow quoted text\\ +**D. Thompson** 11/07/23 #34692 
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-D. Thompson 11/07/23 #34692\\ +Around 10am: The report from my upper deck confirms good size breaking 4+/- footers from the SW diminishing as the wind clocked more toward WSW with Birch Bay in the lee and moving the best DW runs quite a bit outside the Bay. 
-Around 10am: The report from my upper deck confirms good size breaking 4+/- footers from the SW diminishing as the wind clocked more toward WSW with Birch Bay in the lee and moving the best DW runs quite a bit outside the Bay.\\ + 
-toggle quoted messageShow quoted text\\ +**Larry Goolsby** \\
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-Larry Goolsby\\+
 11/08/23 #34693\\ 11/08/23 #34693\\
 Reivers….Have you tried the weather site '​ihavewind'?​ Reivers….Have you tried the weather site '​ihavewind'?​