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| **Paul Reavley** \\ | **Paul Reavley** \\ | ||
| - | Jan 25 #28508 | + | Jan 25 #28508 |
| The Northwest Maritime Center has cooked up another race to go along with the R2A and the Seventy48. | The Northwest Maritime Center has cooked up another race to go along with the R2A and the Seventy48. | ||
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| **Tyler Irwin** \\ | **Tyler Irwin** \\ | ||
| - | Jan 26 #28510 | + | Jan 26 #28510 |
| Start by running south into Puget Sound til you can go no further, turn around and do the same to Point Roberts, then come back home. You’ll hopefully wave to towns in this order: | Start by running south into Puget Sound til you can go no further, turn around and do the same to Point Roberts, then come back home. You’ll hopefully wave to towns in this order: | ||
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| **David Scherrer** \\ | **David Scherrer** \\ | ||
| - | Jan 26 #28511 | + | Jan 26 #28511 |
| - | Sounds like a good opportunity for a double ski... | + | Sounds like a good opportunity for a double ski… |
| **Nicholas Cryder** \\ | **Nicholas Cryder** \\ | ||
| - | Jan 26 #28512 | + | Jan 26 #28512 |
| - | It's unsupported... that needs clarifying; re the Vancouver Island record defines unsupported as absolutely ZERO replenishment from any source whatsoever, and thus the challenge remains unsolved. So by that standard no stopping by the Tides Tavern in Gig Harbor for a pizza, or a friendly hand off on shore. So maybe a touring double ski, if such a thing existed. Personally I "like" the idea of going single (like as in a cruel version of self-hate that is all ultra racing...). Physical breakdowns happen at unpredictable intervals with distances of this scale, so coordinating betwixt two fallible humans could be a surprising limiting factor. And feeding two and managing water is no small feat. | + | It's unsupported… that needs clarifying; re the Vancouver Island record defines unsupported as absolutely ZERO replenishment from any source whatsoever, and thus the challenge remains unsolved. So by that standard no stopping by the Tides Tavern in Gig Harbor for a pizza, or a friendly hand off on shore. So maybe a touring double ski, if such a thing existed. Personally I "like" the idea of going single (like as in a cruel version of self-hate that is all ultra racing…). Physical breakdowns happen at unpredictable intervals with distances of this scale, so coordinating betwixt two fallible humans could be a surprising limiting factor. And feeding two and managing water is no small feat. |
| - | Hmmm. Not much else going on these days racing wise... but by golly, training effectively for this thing would be a full time job. | + | Hmmm. Not much else going on these days racing wise… but by golly, training effectively for this thing would be a full time job. |
| **Nicholas Cryder** | **Nicholas Cryder** | ||
| - | Jan 26 #28513 | + | Jan 26 #28513 |
| Never mind on support question, just noticed this: | Never mind on support question, just noticed this: | ||
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| - | By my rough reckoning, the distance would close to 350 miles in net... but I am not sure I understand the stars on the map, if they are mandatory route milestones then yes. But the "hopefully" language doesn't really make that clear. | + | By my rough reckoning, the distance would close to 350 miles in net… but I am not sure I understand the stars on the map, if they are mandatory route milestones then yes. But the "hopefully" language doesn't really make that clear. |
| Start by running south into Puget Sound til you can go no further, turn around and do the same to Point Roberts, then come back home. You’ll hopefully wave to towns in this order: Port Townsend - Port Ludlow - Olympia - Tacoma - Seattle - Oak Harbor - Anacortes - Bellingham - Point Roberts - Port Townsend | Start by running south into Puget Sound til you can go no further, turn around and do the same to Point Roberts, then come back home. You’ll hopefully wave to towns in this order: Port Townsend - Port Ludlow - Olympia - Tacoma - Seattle - Oak Harbor - Anacortes - Bellingham - Point Roberts - Port Townsend | ||
| Superb race course. Killer idea. Hard to say if sailboats will have as much prevailing wind advantage as the Race to Alaska course offords them (certainly running 24/7 will tho). | Superb race course. Killer idea. Hard to say if sailboats will have as much prevailing wind advantage as the Race to Alaska course offords them (certainly running 24/7 will tho). | ||
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| - | On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 9:21 AM Nicholas Cryder via groups.io <nicholas.cryder=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote: | ||
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| - | It's unsupported... that needs clarifying; re the Vancouver Island record defines unsupported as absolutely ZERO replenishment from any source whatsoever, and thus the challenge remains unsolved. So by that standard no stopping by the Tides Tavern in Gig Harbor for a pizza, or a friendly hand off on shore. So maybe a touring double ski, if such a thing existed. Personally I "like" the idea of going single (like as in a cruel version of self-hate that is all ultra racing...). Physical breakdowns happen at unpredictable intervals with distances of this scale, so coordinating betwixt two fallible humans could be a surprising limiting factor. And feeding two and managing water is no small feat. | ||
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| - | Hmmm. Not much else going on these days racing wise... but by golly, training effectively for this thing would be a full time job. | ||
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| - | On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 8:43 AM David Scherrer <nwlight@...> wrote: | ||
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| - | Sounds like a good opportunity for a double ski... | ||
| **John Rybczyk** \\ | **John Rybczyk** \\ | ||
| - | Jan 26 #28514 | + | Jan 26 #28514 |
| - | On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 09:38 AM, Nicholas Cryder wrote: | + | If one was more interested in just finishing, and not winning, the 25 mile a day pace one would have to maintain to finish before the cutoff would not be too onerous. Gettin time off from work/family/school for that long (two weeks) would be the harder challenge! |
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| - | Hmmm. Not much else going on these days racing wise... but by golly, training effectively for this thing would be a full time job. | + | |
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| - | If one was more interested in just finishing, and not winning, the 25 mile a day pace one would have to maintain to finish before the cutoff would not be too onerous. Gettin time off from work/family/school for that long (two weeks) would be the harder challenge! | + | |
| **Reivers Dustin** \\ | **Reivers Dustin** \\ | ||
| - | Jan 26 #28515 | + | Jan 26 #28515 |
| - | Nicholas point: "unsupported" is too nebulous. The Seattle to Bellingham Abuse or Vancouver Island are great examples. For this particular venue, unsupported could probably not be done even with the best of intentions by human powered craft. | + | Nicholas point: "unsupported" is too nebulous. The Seattle to Bellingham Abuse or Vancouver Island are great examples. For this particular venue, unsupported could probably not be done even with the best of intentions by human powered craft. |
| **Nicholas Cryder** \\ | **Nicholas Cryder** \\ | ||
| - | Jan 26 #28516 | + | Jan 26 #28516 |
| - | I think it could go "purist" unsupported with the use of a desalinator... but like Van Isle, it would be a fundamentally different race. That said I don't think the race organizers are seeing it that way: | + | I think it could go "purist" unsupported with the use of a desalinator… but like Van Isle, it would be a fundamentally different race. That said I don't think the race organizers are seeing it that way: |
| "If the support isn’t preplanned, and generally available to any and all racers, it’s okay." | "If the support isn’t preplanned, and generally available to any and all racers, it’s okay." | ||
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| So I take that to mean no coordinated support (as in beach or boat hand-offs), but swinging by a gas station or store near a beach is fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | So I take that to mean no coordinated support (as in beach or boat hand-offs), but swinging by a gas station or store near a beach is fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | ||
| Nicholas Cryder | Nicholas Cryder | ||
| - | [[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkn_Ju-QfNFFJeHFs_jX0VQ|Paddling Videos]] | + | **Paul Reavley** |
| - | [[https://news.fasterfarther.com/|Paddling Journal]] | + | Jan 26 #28517 |
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| - | On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 3:23 PM Reivers Dustin <reivers@...> wrote: | + | |
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| - | Nicholas point: "unsupported" is too nebulous. The Seattle to Bellingham Abuse or Vancouver Island are great examples. For this particular venue, unsupported could probably not be done even with the best of intentions by human powered craft. | + | |
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| - | **Paul Reavley** \\ | + | |
| - | Jan 26 #28517 | + | |
| "but swinging by a gas station or store near a beach is fine" | "but swinging by a gas station or store near a beach is fine" | ||
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| Yes - that's kind of what I assumed. Don't they already have a track record for this guideline with the R2A? | Yes - that's kind of what I assumed. Don't they already have a track record for this guideline with the R2A? | ||
| - | Now with Covid they add - stay away from towns. How far away? I have this image of competitors calling ahead for takeout from outside of the town eateries. | + | Now with Covid they add - stay away from towns. How far away? I have this image of competitors calling ahead for takeout from outside of the town eateries. |
| **Nicholas Cryder** \\ | **Nicholas Cryder** \\ | ||
| - | Jan 26 #28518 | + | Jan 26 #28518 |
| - | Haha, does Doordash have any jet ski operators? Not that I would welcome a greasy bucket of kfc at 10:30am*\\ | + | Haha, does Doordash have any jet ski operators? Not that I would welcome a greasy bucket of kfc at 10:30am*\\ |
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| - | ....*yes I so would. | + | ….*yes I so would. |
| Nicholas Cryder | Nicholas Cryder | ||
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| **Paul Reavley** | **Paul Reavley** | ||
| - | Jan 26 #28519 | + | Jan 26 #28519 |
| By the way - the Race to Alaska has produced some excellent videos. | By the way - the Race to Alaska has produced some excellent videos. | ||
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| They are somewhat organized here: | They are somewhat organized here: | ||
| - | https://r2ak.com/2021-clip-of-the-day/ | + | [[https://r2ak.com/2021-clip-of-the-day/|https://r2ak.com/2021-clip-of-the-day/]] |
| Or you can see the whole collection here: | Or you can see the whole collection here: | ||
| - | https://www.youtube.com/c/R2AKFILMBOSS/videos | + | [[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCbRYsT1E2kh7Fui97_wJfw/playlists|R2AK video playlists]] |
| You might want check them out - particularly if you missed the R2A documentary from the Pickford virtual Doctober this year. | You might want check them out - particularly if you missed the R2A documentary from the Pickford virtual Doctober this year. | ||
| **beau whitehead** \\ | **beau whitehead** \\ | ||
| - | Jan 27 #28522 | + | Jan 27 #28522 |
| - | Looking back to the 2017 R2K... Karl Kruger stated that the pizza he was able to acquire at Prince Rupert might have literally saved his life. Or at least given him a break from 14 days of Hammer Nutrition gels and bars that got him to Ketchikan. On a SUP. (17th over all out of 27 finishers.) 741 miles. | + | Looking back to the 2017 R2K… Karl Kruger stated that the pizza he was able to acquire at Prince Rupert might have literally saved his life. Or at least given him a break from 14 days of Hammer Nutrition gels and bars that got him to Ketchikan. On a SUP. (17th over all out of 27 finishers.) 741 miles. |
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